So I wonder what old man Bush must be thinking about the 50th anniversary coming up? He must be really proud of what they accomplished, and how they've gotten by with it after all these years.
What happened 50 years ago?
I'm not American.
This guy was born the day JFK died?
Is OP implying the Bush family killed JFK...?
Interesting theory. Proof?
I don't think the Bush family killed JFK, they just ordered it via the CIA.
Cool. Please tell us more, OP. How does Oliver Stone fit into all this? How about Mel Gibson?
Always suspected LBJ. But I was realistic in feeling it was just speculation. NO proof!
But there is a new book where his mistress claims LBJ told her he was responisble.
Too bad he's not still President.
It's disinformation nonsense R6. It wasn't LBJ. It was the right wing.
Perhaps it was the grandfathers of the guys behind the shutdown.
HW is pretty much the only person in America who "doesn't remember" where he was that day. There is a picture of someone in Dallas that day who is the spitting image of him. His CIA ties are deep, wide, and long-standing.
That isn't exactly 2+2 equals 4, but it's not 2+2 equals 5 tinhattery either.
Maybe for the 50th, GHWB's head will blow up. It's just another month.
I'm a died in the wool democrat, but I will never believe HW killed or was connected to the killing of JFK.
Say what you will, but it was HW's insistence in raising taxes (at the expense of his re-election) that set the stage for our Bill Clinton's successful presidency. HW left the country solvent and the coffers full for his successor. This alone demonstrates HW to be a man of quality thinking.
This is a nasty thread.
George H. W. Bush must be terrified of dying for fear that he might actually face judgment in some form of after-life.
Also, let's not forget the blue and red socks on the gay or lesbian wedding (I forget).
We're sorry if the truth offends you, R13.
R15, that was Geo. W Bush with the mismatched sox. He's the son of Herbert Walker Bush
No it wasn't, R17. It was the father.
I automatically assume anyone who headed the CIA is guilty of something pretty dark.
Lee Harvey Oswald killed JFK.
Hey OP put down the crack pipe and take the dildo out of your ass. You're crazy.
HW was a shitty republican, but a very good president.
"I automatically assume anyone who headed the CIA is guilty of something pretty dark."
Isn't being father to George W. Bush enough?
Read a fucking book, GHWB defenders.
a photo's worth a thousand words...
funny that GHWB can't remember exactly where he was when jfk was shot.
JFK ad LBJ went to Texas to try to mend the feud between Governor Connally and Senator Yarborough, but also because of apprehension of the growing power of the Republican Party headed by George H. W. Bush. But it was the mob that got JFK.
R24 Bush Senior left a budget surplus and laid the grounds for Clinton's growing economy as mentioned earlier, he also signed a deal on climate change and went to war against Saddam Hussein only with UN approval and a huge international coalition. A total contrast with the sad state of the GOP today, including his eldest son!
R28 thinks Clinton's NAFTA helped the middle class.
R29 This is not an argument about NAFTA, but a trade war and rising prices and costly exports would not have helped the middle class either
"Clinton's NAFTA" was HWBush's brainchild, which idiotically got pushed through and signed in the spirit of bipartisanship.
Shows how low R13 standards are that merely raising taxes is the sign of a "quality man." What a fucking loser you are to accept what these criminals, both Bushes, have done to this nation.
His ENTIRE CAREER George H.W. Bush was in the pay of the Chinese.
His ENTIRE CAREER George W. Bush was in the pay of Saudi Arabia.
We've had to Bushes, both representing foreign powers, directing our government for the benefit of those powers.
"died in the wool"
"Bush Senior left a budget surplus..."
What? There were three years of budget surpluses under Clinton. You have to back to Carter to find another one.
People forget that the right wing HATED Kennedy as much as the right wing hated Clinton and now Obama. Alright, maybe they hate Obama a bit more because of his skin color.
Kennedy was well aware that he was entering the land of the crazies when he flew to Dallas. Understatement of his life.
R35 The Democrats controlled Congress and were still big spenders, but Bush Senior raised taxes to cut the deficit
Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone!!!!!
What is HYUFD?
Hitler Youth University and Fire Department.
R28, you are mistaken. And a fucking lunatic.
Sorry, HYUFD, but that's not what you said. And could you talk about the big spending the Democrats were doing? That's another fun freeper lie.
R42 In 1990 Bush put up taxes, the Democratic Congress spent $23 billion above CBO’s pre-budget deal spending baseline.
1992 had a $290 billion deficit. I don't get where you get the idea that stale old mouse-eaten dry cheese George H.W. Bush did anything fiscally responsible (apologies to Shakespeare for the insult). If he did, it were an accident.
R44 He put up taxes to cut the deficit as was needed at the time, the Democrats did not cut spending
George Bush had nothing to do with the assassination of JFK. Neither did LBJ. Or Cuba. Or the mob. It was Lee Harvey Oswald acting on his own and on behalf of no one.
Read Vince Bugliosi's book Reclaiming History. He lays it all out in 1300 pages.
Single bullet theory is now single bullet FACT.
R47 There's a sale on tin foil at Walmart. Get it while it lasts!
r46 just give it up, already. Nobody believes Bugliosi's bullshit.
R48, nobody but nobody with an ounce of common sense believes the Warren Commission.
You disinformation shills are more tiresome and comical than you fear.
R46 is right. Oswald, and Oswald, acted alone. Bugliosi's tome makes that clear to any reasonable person. And though the doubters - at 59% in the most recent poll I saw - remain too high, the Warren Commission findings are now finding its greatest support.
Bugliosi did a poor job with motive. Indeed, nobody does a good job with motive since the two people Oswald is suspected of shooting at were deadly enemies of each other.
I like "Johnson Did It" more than "Bush Did It," but only by a little bit. 51% to 49%.
How about "Johnson and Bush were part of the same cabal that did it," R53?
A single bullet's work is never done!
How about "Bush had absolutely nothing to do with the JFK assassination and neither did LBJ and anyone who thinks they did is a wingnut"?
Truth is not on your side, R56.
Your insults are childish and pathetic.
Vincent Bugliosi is a paid disinformation specialist, just like Gerald "CIA" Posner.
"Your insults are childish and pathetic."
You really think you have engaged in anything resembling an adult conversation here?
Happy 74th b'day in hell, LHO.
The idea that amiable lightweight George the Elder is this evil mastermind reminds me of the '80s SNL sketch that had Reagan in complete control of the White House, speaking multiple languages. Very funny. Keep it up!
Ooh gurl no you DIDN'T
[quote]You really think you have engaged in anything resembling an adult conversation here?
Very well then, here is an expert refutation of the single bullet theory. If you are so brilliant, I expect you to disprove this article point by point.
The single bullet theory was proposed by a lawyer (not a physicist) named Arlen Specter who was rewarded for services rendered with a long career in the US Senate.
What's the point? You aren't seriously interested in an adult conversation. And you have already revealed your bias in your nutty assertion that Arlen Specter "was rewarded...with a long career in the US Senate." You are a conspiracy theorist who is not interested in evidence or arguments. You have made up your mind and that's that.
(And you will now respond by accusing me of being brainwashed or blind in not seeing the insanity of the single-bullet theory I never defended it.)
The point is that you won't refute the debunking of the single bullet theory because you CANNOT.
You can't do it because truth and the immutable principles of physical law are not on your side of the argument.
How ironic that you end with the title of one of the JFK books that concludes that Oswald did it.
How about I turn it back on you. Please refute every point in Case Closed?
Here you are, R65:
THE POSNER REPORT: A Study In Propaganda: One Hundred Errors in Gerald Posner's Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK
SO in order to prove your case, you provide a conspiracy theory. So I in turn can just say, here, here is Case Closed. And so on.
Yes, R67, but your version of the events of 11/22/63 requires the laws of physics to be suspended and mine doesn't.
Your single bullet has to magically zigzag in mid-air. It has to smash several bones in two men while emerging nearly pristine. It has to leave more lead fragments in Connally's leg than are missing from itself. It also has to change from being found on JFK's stretcher, per the original claim, to being found on Connally's stretcher, a "correction" made several months later, in order for Specter's theory to be given precedence over the testimony of actual eye-witnesses at Parkland Hospital.
The logical conclusion that several gunmen in various locations were firing multiple bullets simultaneously is far more in keeping with the evidence. A willingness to examine every shred of evidence from a skeptical point of view is the foundation of scientific method.
Nope, that's not what Case Closed says. Refute Case Closed's actual version of the events, please.
R68 this video answers every single charge about the "magic" bullet. Fact is, there was nothing magic about it at all.
Single bullet theory is now single bullet FACT. Watch the video. Read 'em and weep!
[quote] Your single bullet has to magically zigzag in mid-air.
Not at all. One of the neat tricks the conspiracy wingnuts engage in is to conveniently ignore that Connally sat in the jump seat in front of Kennedy. To make their point about this so-called magical bullet, they have to pretend that Kennedy was seated directly behind Connally.
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