NBC is getting fewer viewers, not "less viewers".
That's the extent of my interest in this subject.
Parks and Recreation tied The Vampire Diaries....how low can you go.
[quote] Sean Saves The World and Welcome To The Family only managing a 1.0 and 0.8, respectively, in their second week on the air.
And it was just a couple weeks ago that DL'ers were insisting that Sean Hayes is a comic genius and a national treasure whose new show would surely be a huge hit.
Que lastima. Tal vez la red considere transmitir en un idioma que los norteamericanos de hoy entienden.
[quote]And it was just a couple weeks ago that DL'ers were insisting that Sean Hayes is a comic genius and a national treasure whose new show would surely be a huge hit.
I think these "DL'ers" in which you refer represent a demographic that no advertiser wishes to pursue.
So the return of Sean and Michael J. is a bust ? Haven't been following . Watched Sean's show once, and was bored. Watched 5 minutes of Mike's and tuned out. Will NBC go back to the Fred Silverman days ?
Does any of NBC's ratings have to do with the MLB postseason games?
Sorry, only one of us can ride a wave of dumb comedies into ratings gold.
Where is Community?
That'll get me to tune in.
Shame on you R9. TBBT is the most intelligent show ever presented in the television medium. It has to be, because it's about scientists!
Haha r11, so deserved.
What little tv people under 40 are still watching is on cable. The Network shows are lame, dated formulas that are of little interest.
NBC is the home of comedies so edgy, they're not actually funny.
Other than nudity or swearing - hurdles that might actually be cleared with relative ease - what prevents the networks from doing cable quality programming?
Without debating the quality of the scripts, Downton Abbey is the big thing now, why wouldn't a network have tried to buy the rights? (bad example - a season is eight episodes.)
But Downton was pulling in an average 11 - 12 million viewers per episode for PBS.
Breaking Bad 5 - 6 million, granted after the build.
I've always thought CBS should move the Young and the Restless to night time. It's cheap. With slightly better scripts and directing they could pull a respectable audience relative to the costs of production.
Are the numbers for quality too low for the networks to try? Or is cable/PBS vs network the demographic and intellectual dividing line?
Y&R at night would not be cheap, R15. They'd have to film it under a different, much more expensive, SAGAFTRA contract.
For the most part, cable audiences are small. Admittedly that distinction is disappearing, but still it holds. It's a rare cable series -- Walking Dead, for example -- that gets ratings like broadcast series.
[quote]I've always thought CBS should move the Young and the Restless to night time. It's cheap. With slightly better scripts and directing they could pull a respectable audience relative to the costs of production.
What a monumentally stupid idea.
[quote]For the most part, cable audiences are small. Admittedly that distinction is disappearing, but still it holds. It's a rare cable series -- Walking Dead, for example -- that gets ratings like broadcast series.
It's not that rare. That Duck Dynasty show gets ratings any of the networks would kill for. On Wednesday night, AHS Coven beat everything on the networks except Modern Family in the key demo.
[quote]AHS Coven beat everything on the networks except Modern Family in the key demo.
Oh great. Something else for those cunts to gloat about come Awards season. I can just see the smirk on Bowen's face now.
Sean Saves the World & the Michael J. Fox shows aren't great. But the CBS sitcoms are just as bad if not worse, and they're doing comparatively well. Why?
Parks and Recreation is one of the all-time great comedies. It's a shame so few watch it. It's genuinely funny and warm, like the Mary Tyler Moore Show, and clever like Seinfeld.
In the mid-90s, I seem to recall Y&R airing a few episodes in the evening. Obviously it didn't work out like CBs hoped if the idea was abandoned.
CBS asked Y&R to do those shows to provide counter programming to the World Series.
Also, this was in the era of Central Park West -- before Raymond, Survivor and the CSI hits.
Bill Bell wasn't a fan of doing shows at night.
Those shows were tricky; he didn't give anything away so that people only watching during the day didn't get screwed -- but he had to put some oompf in those night time shows.
I stopped watching Parks and Rec...was so tired of stupid Leslie and her screeching performance on the show. I hope a giant meteor lands on Pawnee and squashes everyone expect Donna.
I sort of like the Sean Hayes show.
I watched the Sean show and so far only Linda Lavin and the dude playing his boss seems to understand that the series is supposed to be high camp and not high art.
who plays his boss?
NBC has won the first two weeks of the season in the key demo. They will likely win this week as well. Thursday nights are a mess but overall, they are improving but you knew that already, OP. Fox's continued collapse is a bigger story. This is two straight years of giant losses in ratings.
I just watched the Michael J. Fox show on a whim and I was surprised - it was actually GOOD/fun to watch. I thought it was going to be a cheapo three-camera sitcom like Three and a Half Men but it was shot in a way that was almost cinematic/indie. I was getting Royal Tenenbaum vibes from it, for whatever reason. The bratty kids DEFINITELY need to be toned down - the stupid redhead kid who sits on counters and says nothing and the surly/bratty high school girl need to go or something needs to change there. The kid who dropped out of college and came back was good, though. I loved the chick who played Michael J. Fox's sister. I'll watch the other episodes.
This is what happens when you let a gay guy run your network.
The only reason the network hasn't collapsed is because they dished big money for the rights to the NFL on Sundays, and the Voice-fueled Mondays and Tuesdays. The rest of the week is a disaster.
Weren't they going to convert 30 Rock into a big Lohman's?
Their Fridays haven't launched yet. So they are dominant on Mionday, Tuesday. Their Wednesdays stink and Thursdays are a disaster. Fridays will be competitive for them. Overall, a work in progress but better than the network has been. Even though you're rooting against the gay guy.
Network TV still gets better ratings than most cable channels. It is just recently that some cable shows are getting higher ratings. Scripted cable TV has more prestige, but they still are getting lower ratings than the supposedly crappy network shows.
I also agree with the poster about the strange distinction between network. it is not like most cable TV shows even curse or show nudity a lot. Yet they have a very different tempo. There is no reason why network TV can't create quality TV similar to basic and premium cable.
I also think it is funny and strange that the networks complain about loosing younger viewers, but they do nothing to try to get under 40 viewers. Fox and the CW channels are the only channels that even try to cater to younger people. It is like the networks don't genuinely want younger viewers.