Oh my god. They are so dishy! I read passages each night. Gossip that's just unbelievable and in many cases, witty. Jerry Hall's bad BO. Patti Smith's bad BO. Bianca Jagger's poor fashion choices. Mick Jagger's loneliness. Fred Hughes' drinking issues. Truman Capote's horrible black bean soup. Sly Stallone's oddly formed body.
If you're a pop culture fan - especially 1970s - you MUST read this. Warhol also doesn't come off as dumb as he does in interviews...hes quite perceptive.
OP, you should check out "Holy Terror," Bob Colacello's memoir about working for Warhol in the 70s.
I have read it, R1. I thought Colacello came off as a whiny baby. He wouldn't be anyone without Warhol!
bump for edie sedgwick's muse.
Mick Jagger is for sure lonely. He once came into my shop and literally hung out for hours, talking with all the lowly sales bottoms (females). After a while it was like "enough, Mick Jagger!" This was the same behavior the non-famous, extremely lonely customers would exhibit.
r4. where was this?
He may not be dumb, but he sure was shallow. Does he ever mention reading a book, or a newspaper? I don't even remember him talking about going to a museum.
Paul Morrissey claims that Warhol was an idiot, R6.
Love it. I have the original HUGE hardcover and I'm rereading for the first time in about a decade on Kindle. I wish Edie by Jean Stein would come out on Kindle. I used to have that in a very large paperback that fell apart.
Andy was far from an idiot, a very clever businessman who I believe never recovered psychologically from being shot in the 60s.
I'm up to 1985 now and it's eerie how many passages foreshadow his death in 1987.
He seemed a bit tightwadish. He said he was always offered Quaaludes from people. He didnt take them, but he sold them the next day. I Love when he talks about Truman Capote.
Thanks for the tip OP - just ordered on Kindle.
I loved Warhol's comments on Rob Lowe being nothing more than a "pussy hound" and this was before that infamous Lowe sex tape.
I liked his description of Truman Capote appearing pickled at a social event then drunkenly trying to serve guests black bean soup. Warhol tried to dunk his behind a plant, if i recall.
Is Paul Morrissey gay? Have read a few books about the Warhol crowd & he never seems to get any.
I'm reading it now, it's like the same old thing day after day ...Andy is very down to earth, I love when he talks about these people wanting to give him and IQ test and he's like " why should let them find out how stupid I am?"
Love his stunned reaction when Faye Dunaway wasn't nominated for an Oscar for "Mommie Dearest":
"If that isn't acting . . ."
Also love his story about sitting next to some crazy old lady who was invited to a Carter White House dinner and showed up wearing a recycled antique lace tablecloth.
Warhol was a tightwad. He forced Fred Hughes to put up the money to make BAD and never paid anyone who worked for him very much at all. He also frequently stole credit from people (like Pat Hackett) who wrote his books for him.
He was a master manipulator and sad excuse for a human being. Could have helped many of his "superstars" who were going off the deep end, but seemed to enjoy watching them self-destruct....their destruction sometimes even caused by his willful negligence.
Just the most banal activities described in detail, then...
At a dinner at Halston's, Bianca took off her panties and passed them around the table.
Rob Lowe only met Andy once, according to his own memoir. It's also a great read, especially as self-narrated audiobook.
I am ordering a copy right this second.
Does he talk a lot about Edie? He wasn't very kind to her.
Andy kept the diary for tax purposes, R22. The diary begins in 1976 and Edie died in 1971; she's mentioned in passing a few times, or in connection with someone Andy's talking about, but there isn't any dish that I recall.
Spy magazine compiled an index, since there isn't one in the book (unless they've added it to the new editions) - it might be online somewhere. Since the whole thing is basically gossip, the book is pretty useless without an index.
There's an index in the paperback edition, R24.
Paul Morrissey is a right wing lunatic.
[quote]Does he talk a lot about Edie? He wasn't very kind to her.
I've never understood the fascination with her. Did she have any talent at.all? She wasn't even some pretty model girl.
If you want a follow up book, OP, check out Popism. The book he 'wrote' about his 60s. I read it years ago and enjoyed it a lot.
I'm amazed it's out of print. But you can still get old of a copy.
Andy didn't say anything nice about the young Anna Wintour.
How did he and Truman Capote get away with being openly gay in the 60s and 70s?
Andy wrote about Rex Smith showing up at event wearing pants so tight, his huge cock was on display for all to see.
[quote]Could have helped many of his "superstars" who were going off the deep end, but seemed to enjoy watching them self-destruct
And how could he have done that? He wasn't a shrink or a doctor. He wasn't their father. He didn't have a magic pill to make it all better. He was an artist. He let people do what they wanted to do. It's not his fault that some of his Superstars were drug-addicted, mentally ill messes. They were like that long before they met Warhol.
I read it years ago and enjoyed it. I do like to read journals, diaries, memoirs and letters
[quote]Does he talk a lot about Edie? He wasn't very kind to her.
He did what he could for Edie. She was under the bizarre notion that Warhol could make her a legitimate Hollywood star. Warhol was satirizing that kind of thing and he made her an underground superstar, the most she could ever have hoped for given her lack of any real talent and her mental illness and drug addictions. That's as good as it was ever going to get for Edith.
She started causing problems for Warhol and the Factory gang and began harassing him for money. Then she turned her back on him and took up with Bob Dylan who she felt was her new ticket to fame and fortune. Warhol was justifiably hurt and began shutting her out.
Edie is vastly over-rated and unfairly mythologized. She was a seriously messed-up, spoiled little rich girl who never worked a day in her life. She had lots of personal charm and charisma, yet. And she was cute. But she had no real ambition or talent. She though some Magic Daddy could just wave his wand and make her a big star. She didn't once consider ever having to WORK for anything. Or figure anything out on her own.
[quote]How did he and Truman Capote get away with being openly gay in the 60s and 70s?
They ran in queer circles and knew when to turn it on and off. They weren't "out" in the way we think of that concept today. But lots of people in artistic or literary circles were openly gay. It was expected and normal.
In "Popism" Warhol talks about being faggy or swish and the pleasure he gets from people's reactions to it. Even though everything to him was a joke and all about deviant irony, he was a queer groundbreaker and doesn't get nearly enough credit for that.
R34 - you should read Kenneth Williams' diaries.
He may be an unknown in the US, but was a mainstay on British tv as a jovial and humourous raconteur.
Underneath, he was a bitter, depressed mess...
And don't forget how he said "Dinah Shore had the AIDS." Oh he didn't call it the AIDS and he didn't mention her by name, but you knew it was her and what she had.
Malanga is still alive, R29.
Warhol also never called anyone gay, he'd say, "Do you think so-and-so has a problem?" That was his phrase - "he has a problem."
Andy referred to people as gay or fairies and talked about people ie "is so and so gay or straight?" Or "so and so says he's straight but who do they think he's kidding"
He really wanted to have a serious relationship with the Hollywood guy (blanking on his name) Jon maybe ? and even though they lived together he was always very distant and formal wih Andy and did not want to be talked about in he diary. He also loved to say who had gotten fat or was fat. He would always remark upon Bianca Jagger's ass spreading.
He also got into crystals and wore them on his person fir good health and whatnot.
Jon Gould, R40. He worked at Paramount.
I thought his long-term partner was Jed Johnson, who perished in the TWA plane crash.
R42 Jed and Andy were broken up at the he started The Andy Warhol diaries and they shared custody of their 2 dogs Amos and Archie.
His dumb vapid persona was really just an act. He's so catty and hilarious --and frequently spot-on in his personality assessments -- in his Diaries. I miss him! Can you imagine what he would have to say about Lady Gaga? Can you even conceive of his Twitter feed? Brigid Berlin would do it for him, I bet, or Fred Hughes. And he'd definitely be front and center on TMZ sometimes, being chased down coming out of random NY restaurants. OH ANDY!
Andy on Twitter would have been fabulous!
Even if you're not a fan of Warhol's art, his diaries are fascinating--all 800 pages of it. It's like listening in on a celebrity's phone call, talking about other celebs.
(Essentially, that's what it is.)
The UK version may be somewhat edited, due to different libel laws there. Bianca Jagger sued in the UK for that exact reason, though I never heard the outcome.
The edition published in France by Grasset (Journal d'Andy Warhol) is full of scandal but is slightly shorter. However the cuts in the French version seem to be to eliminate superfluous details and people which would not interest the French audience.
It's generally very well translated with regard to the slang BTW, but not consistently. He mentioned seeing a "glory hole movie" in a porn theater; this is rendered in French as "film for the glory of the asshole."
The book is online as a PDF file. Just opened it in iBooks so I have a new book that I hadn't known about before coming here. Thanks OP and DL
Thank you for that r47! I bookmarked the link. I haven't read the Andy Warhol Diaries in a long time and I'm interested to browse through them again. What a time capsule of a world that is now completely gone.
My favorite is when he tells the story about the fat Sue Mengers flapping her trap at Yoko Ono's annual Christmas party at The Dakota and Jackie O walks by.
[quote]"film for the glory of the asshole."
This is the best thing that I have ever read on DL.
The 7 vols of the James Lees Milne diaries are infinitely better, including the gossip. Like the tank commander getting sucked off below as he saluted the Queen.