What will be the reason behind the government restarting?
Place your bets!
The real reason or the fake GOP reason
Someone will have eventually pulled that stick out of Boehner's butt.
As such stories must when love's denied: with tears and a journey.
This will go on for an uncomfortable amount of time. The upside is people will be vocal about the jobs and services that are really important. Those will get funded and hopefully some of the leftovers will be culled. Just because a job or function exists today does not mean it should always exist.
Not with a bang but a whimper.
Will the GOP actually walk away with nothing?
Yes, and possibly even less, r6.
how will it end...WITH THEIR FUCKING HEADS ON SPIKES
I'm sure you do not believe a one party system is the answer.
It will will end with Obama and repugs "compromising" and cutting Social Security/Medicare. Obama has always wanted to cut them as much as repugs do. So he will declare victory and give one of his speeches touting "balance" while ignoring that some old people are going to starve and get less medical care.
Pretty ironic when the whole reason for the shut down was so-called Obamacare.
I love how the "it's all about jobs, jobs, jobs" party is now calling for the permanent layoffs of hundreds of thousands of government workers.
R11, see comment at R4. Private sector should be creating jobs, not an overtly layered bureaucracy.
"Private sector should be creating jobs, not an overly layered bureaucracy."
r12, 1929 Republicans called. They want their (failed) argument back.
I don't know, but this is nUTTY.
Obama always concedes, so I am trying to not get my hopes up that he will stay firm. I don't understand what happens since this was a temporary CR and there will need to be another one in November. I keep hoping that Pelosi can convince sane Repubs to bring a clean CR to the floor for a vote. I forget the procedure name, but it can happen.
R13, keep supporting the street apes if you feel that is a good use of your money, but please leave mine alone.
Street apes? Nice. See, Republicans aren't motivated by racism at all!
Who in their right mind would want to go anywhere near Boehner's butt. That stick is stuck up there forever, R2! We're screwed!
R17, I meant poor people. How racist of you to see that as racist.
Actually, private sector has become THE problem.
[quote]I'm sure you do not believe a one party system is the answer.
I'm ALL for a viable opposition party but this is like hacking the computer, not opposing the points being made.
[quote] Private sector should be creating jobs
how do you suggest that come about?
It will end (and the Repub lick ends will cave) on the day Jack Lew announces there is not enough money in the Treasury to send out Social Security checks.
R22, you know how when people have more disposable income you get more people trying on clothes at your wee station in Macy's? That's how in very simple terms.
too simple to work, silly.
R16/R17 I also immediately perceived your post as racist. I can not believe that you are so naive to believe that "street ape" refers to any group except blacks.
R4/12/16/19 etc.. . = cunty cunt freeperella
I meant R16/R19, Sorry about that R17.
No worries, r26/28. I knew what you meant.
On Friday or Monday, the GOP will declare victory, claim that they successfully brought their concerns to Obama, and then Boehner will bring the clean bill to a vote, and it will pass with bipolar, umm, I mean bipartisan support.
Boehner will go.
The Constitution does not require that the Speaker be an elected House Representative, though all Speakers have been an elected Member of Congress.
That means Democrats and enough Republicans could decide to bring in a mutually-acceptable alternative like Bloomberg or Colin Powell.
Bloomberg or Powell, R32? Really, what parallel universe are you visiting from?
It will end with big crocodile tears pouring down my scaly armoured face.
Would like to know what do the Republicans here want and what should the President do? Well since its supposedly his fault
We will need cinderblocks, chains, and the Tea Party House members and a means to get them to the ocean.
With it's ass in the air begging for a spankin
set up a lottery to choose one member of congress every day to hang. after a month stick the name of the prez in there...
It can actually end if the behind-the-scenes money people let the Republican congressional politicians know that, for the next election cycle, they will be funding the Democratic Party.
The woman on the news who said Congress should be turned over someone's knee and
trolldar r4 than check out its posts.
House GOP is in a bad corner. They did this because they fear Obamacare will bolster the Dems when it succeeds more than fails -- which it will. Despite the shutdown, Obamacare is launched.
So they did this for nothing, in effect. They are truly stuck now, as to explain what they even want.
They will fold within the next 1-2 weeks. It will be a huge and humiliating defeat for them.
the question is now, will it be rolled into the debt ceiling issue or not. if so, then yes, in about 2 weeks.
if not then in a day or so...
You know they won't back down until they come up with a way to save face. What will that be?
Once they come up with a face saver for the Repubs, the crisis will end. I'm sure they'll come up with something (maybe in a week or two.)
If it wasn't for all the damage, I'd like the govt. to stay closed because the longer it lasts the longer the Repub brand gets killed.
[quote]Once they come up with a face saver for the Repubs, the crisis will end.
OK, OK. We'll de-fund ACORN. And we'll take free abortions out of Obamacare. And we'll stop forcing individual churches to marry gay people. There: you got something. Happy? Faces saved?
To top it off we'll give all you Tea Party Representatives this parting gift:
Oooh, Boehner trying to sound all tough on the TV: says Obama/WH should compromise with House GOP because the situation is "not some damn game".
That is exactly why Reid and Obama are not negotiating. Because it's not a damn game. This was a reckless "game move" from the Tea Party wing of the House GOP - trying to use extortion to kill a passed law they don't like - and it would be a horrible precedent for the Senate and White House to cave in to it.
I work for the Department of Defense and was just notified that I'm to report back to work tomorrow morning. Since DoD accounted for nearly half of the federal employees on furlough, and over 90% of us will be coming back to work, I hope other agencies will follow suit (by circumventing Congress).
In retrospect, the unexpected "vacation" wasn't horrible, but every single day off was spent worrying about my finances. It wasn't until Saturday that my mind was put at ease...
They already said yesterday that DOD was heading back in feeling it was necessary. Doesn't mean everyone else is heading back. Social Security workers are still suffering.
How's that murder business of yours going lately, R50?
It will not end well...for Republicans.
I'm still wondering. Now it's blending into the debt-ceiling fight.
Part of me is thinking uh-oh, grab your retirement $$ and move it to cash. Part of me is thinking this is an annoying scuffle that will get sorted out in time.