Now taking bets: First canceled new shows of the season
I'm going to bed "Dads" doesn't last.
What new show do you think will meet the axe first?
R2 wins. I couldn't get through the first ten minutes of that piece of shit.
Of the shows I've seen so far, definitely the Goldbergs.
Show was not funny. Characters were not endearing.
I'm still wondering how it ever got picked up as a series with such a godawful pilot as that.
Mom was very disappointing and, shockingly, Alison Janney just wasn't funny.
The Crazy Ones! The Crazy Ones! The Crazy Ones!The Crazy Ones! The Crazy Ones! The Crazy Ones!
It's worse. The Goldbergs has an '80s theme, yet they bypassed Jennifer Beals's very promising"Westside," with a good story, and a talented young cast.
I'm hoping Westside is picked up as a replacement. The Goldbergs got 9.4 million viewqers for the debut, but they'll be lucky to hold half of that audience soon.
MEN with Tony Shaloub & Jerry whatshisname from STAND BY ME.
Back in the Game will be the first to go.
I'm with r1. Think it will be Lucky 7.
Apparently the order has been cut down from 15 to 13. Which means the last four scripts have to be furiously rewritten.
I agree with r8. We Are Men is excruciatingly bad. It makes Dads look like Cheers. What a train wreck. I'm going with this.
The Michael J Fox Show will only last one season. Sean Saves the World will
be gone at mid season. Hostages may make it through its 15 episodes, but it won't be renewed - and they may burn the last half of it off on Saturdays.
I like everything about The Crazy Ones except Robin Williams.
Poor Matt Long. They even canceled Private Practice when he was on. I wish he'd get on a show that could last.
The first episode of Lucky 7 sucked, but only because it has a long and specific setup that has to be gone through. Its future episodes may be delightful. I will watch it until ABC kills it.
I hope Betrayal lasts the season. The minute football makes The Good Wife late, I'm going to jump to ABC. I watched it last night, and I kept thinking how much I might enjoy it with different actors, with the exception of Stuart Townsend.
CBS has terrible sitcoms. You know they suck when How I Met Your Mother is their funniest show.
Betrayal tanked in the ratings last night for good reasons. All the leads are extremely uncompelling. These were the ones who got network approval? I don't get it.
I'm guessing it'll be SEAN SAVES THE WORLD.
crazy ones won its time slot. that may last a while. thankfully, so i can watch James Wolk.
The Goldbergs. You can even see it on the actors's faces as they deliver their lines that even they know it's a giant turd. Wendy Mclendon Covey was on Andy Cohen's show last week to plug the show. She even said in a DESPERATE attempt to get people to tune in, "If this isn't one of the most funniest shows on TV, well then I just don't know what is funny is anymore..." Ugggh.
Wendy, you in danger, guurl.
The Goldbergs. Jesus Christ that shit reeked. I love WMC, but the rest of the cast is horrible. Better actors could possibly maybe salvage the script, but these hacks ain't gonna do it.
It's looking more and more likely to be Hostages but I think it'll be moved to Friday or Saturday night to burn off ten episodes.
R23 they should just package all episodes on Netflicks.
So far, every new show I've seen looks to be a worthy candidate for quick cancellation.
They should cancel everything and start all over again.
Good idea, R24.
The only new show I think is a winner is Sleepy Hollow. I tried to watch The Blacklist three times and just couldn't get into it. I really wanted to like it because I love Spader. Still, it's a bona fide hit for NBC. Based on the promos, Mom is being supported by CBS and The Goldbergs is being touted as a hit for ABC, so I think they will stick around. NBC will stick with Michael J. Fox. The Crazy Ones is lucky to be on after TBBT. Strangely enough, Dads fits right in with irreverant Fox programming and will likely stick around, at least for one season. Betrayal will probably be the first to go. Townsend is aging and the female lead looks like a catalog model and has no acting ability. Hostages will probably be allowed to complete it's run on an off night like Saturday but won't be renewed. Then again, do the networks have replacement shows in the wings so early in the new season?
Betrayal was only ever slotted to run half the season. I think ABC will let it run because they've already got a problem with Lucky 7 and can't fill both holes at once this quickly. Plus, they let Pan Am and 666 Park Avenue air a lot of episodes in that slot before they got yanked for good.
That idiotic show with Tony Shalhoub will be the first to go, like "Partners" last year.
I actually liked The Crazy Ones more than I thought I would. But I was disappointed with the Michael J. Fox Show - just wasn't good.
It certainly won't be the first to go but I think Agents of SHIELD is going to go down in flames and it should. The characters are just so fucking bland. They have no superpowers whatsoever and only three of the team members can defend themselves -- the other three are totally fucking useless.
I don't know, maybe I'm judging too quickly but I think people are going to get bored with this shit and FAST and all those millions they saw for their premiere last week won't be sticking around for much longer.
Brooklyn 99 (3rd episode tonight) DAMN WAS IT BAD. i didn't even smile once.
Agents of Shield, The Goldbergs, Lucky 7, and Trophy Wife all took a tumble this week. Lucky 7 in particular is doing really poorly - it got a .8 in the demo which puts it on the CW level.
Yes, what the hell was Betrayal? I put it on after the Breaking Bad finale, and can't remember anything about it except it was clearly terrible, and I ended up watching Talking Bad instead. You'd think with a similar title and putting it after Revenge it'd have some of the same appeal, but obviously it doesn't. Another real swift programing move from one of the old legacy networks.
Betrayal will probably go the way of Deception (another Revenge rip off). I'm waiting for the networks to do a show called Mendacity.
For a while there we were getting Mad Men ripoffs....now we're getting Revenge ripoffs.
BETRAYAL is this season's 666 PARK AVENUE. It's a flop!
The insipid blonde from 666 PARK AVENUE
I watched the first episode of Trophy Wife last night and loved it.
Hello Ladies on HBO is very promising, too.
Watched a few more premiers this last weekend... I didn't love Trophy Wife, but it was funny enough. I like Shield, but I'm an unabashed Whedonite. Will give Blacklist one more episode. The Sarah Michelle Gellar show (already forgot the name) is probably my favorite of the bunch.
i just tried to watch Trophy.... shut it off half way thru. deleted from DVR listings.
I'm really enjoying Hostages so far. I'm surprised it's not doing well.
Hostages! Promising first episode but second episode was just laughable. I realized no way could they make this plot work for a season. Checked out after first half hour. I love Sleepy Hollow though. Tom Mison is going to be a big star.
After two decent episodes, I agree that Brookly Nine-Nine was bad last night. The show has pure gold in the relationship bewteen Andy Samberg-Andre Braugher. Too much focus on the supporting cast last night, which is very much inferior to that of The Cazy Ones.
Hello Ladies was just ok. I feel like the "cringe comedy" thing has been done to death by now, but I'll give it one or two more episodes.
Eek, Agents of SHIELD lost 1/3 of its premiere viewers.
Blacklist lost me after two episodes. The plot is a sloppy mess and the makers don't seem to care about it. The only thing I've ended up enjoying about it is the blond FBI agent whose body looks nice beneath the suit, and I love his face. But will they cancel it? If they kept that Alias turd alive for years then this will probably have a chance, too, because it seems to target the same audience.
Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is still a bit of mystery. In a way I enjoy watching it but it's very mediocre. I like the tall agent and try to spot his bulge all the time. Unfortunately it's not a good thing if that is one of the most important things to watch for in a show. I didn't really care about Samuel L. Jackson's visit, because it just underlined that this is a small tv show, not a big Marvel movie. BUT there still is some magic in the show and I hope that the show will grow to be more meaningful. But they need good stories. The second episode had just below the bar story.
I only watched The Goldbergs for 10 minutes and deleted it. The Crazy Ones has only one redeeming quality: Wolk, but like I said in The Crazy Ones thread he'd have to be in every single scene in his undies for me to keep watching the show, and of course that's not going to happen.
Sleepy Hollow really is the star of the new shows. Just love it, and hope they keep its fantasy horror elements as dark as they have been, and go even farther.
It looks like I'm gonna win the bet, OP.
What do I win?
You win the first (and only) season of "Lukcy 7" on DVD, r47.
I liked DECEPTION so much more than the clown show it replaced, R36. I wish it had come back.
I dunno, the Michael J. Fox show is lookin pretty shaky right now.
Super Fun Night did surprisingly OK last night.
[quote]I'm still wondering how (The Goldbergs) ever got picked up as a series with such a godawful pilot as that.
The networks are run by Jews.
ba dum bum!
looks like a race between Lucky 7 and Betrayal to be the first to get the ax.
I was not pleased with Super Fun Night.
I was shocked at how bad Super Fun Night was.
I think the Goldbergs had potential.
The cast is good.
The premise is sound.
They're too quick to give the characters redeeming qualities.
Too much 7th Heaven not enough Simpsons.
Something about The Goldbergs rubs me the wrong way. I don't give a fuck about some pretentious actor's family in the 80's.
I think The Millers will crash and burn.
The one where, in the preview, that fat girl's clothes get eaten off by the elevator doors. That was painful to watch, even for two seconds. Who thinks this stuff is funny!?
My bet is on Ironside. I haven't seen that much scenery chewing since Shatner was on Star Trek.
Will & Grace
Yeah, it's a toss-up between Ironside and Hostages as to which one gets yanked first.
"The networks are run by Jews."
Mel Gibson, is that you?
If you're watching The Millers, you know this thread is now officially closed.
Love Dads and the Goldbergs
Sean Saves The World is an utter trainwreck.
Discussing passable vs bad network sitcoms in 2013 is similar to the task of trying to figure out which strain of Ebola would cause you the least painful death.
tried to like crazy ones. but tonight's ep was really bad. sorry James Wold, in spite of your beauty and talent... not going to make it -- again.
Add me to the list of James Wolk fans. I love that guy. Too bad The Crazy Ones seems like a dud.
Sean Saves the World may be bad but am I the only one who thought some of the reviews were over-the-top nasty? I don't know, it just seemed like some of the critics were really looking forward to ripping this show to shreds and Sean Hayes along with it (the Hollywood Reporter review was especially nasty). Granted, they weren't high on Michael J. Fox's show either but there was just so much more of a respectful tone in those reviews as opposed to those for Sean Saves the World.
Not writing this to defend Hayes, just saying some of the vitriol directed at his sitcom seems to have been about something other than the quality of the work.
I really love Sean Hayes. He was hilarious on Will and Grace and has great comic timing. I don't understand why some people here are so down on him. That said, his new show does look stupid.
I did not need to know about the mother's farts. The Millers has got to go.
Agree that The Crazy Ones was bad tonight. Still think they have the right idea in limiting Robin Williams appearance & letting the supporting cast shine, but it did not work in this 2nd episode.
Lucky 7 will be gone soon. We Are Men doesn't look long for this world, either.
I don't even know what We Are Men is. Have to look that up.
Lucky 7's first episode had the lowest ratings for any ABC fall premiere EVER.
Then it went down in week 2 by over 40%.
My prediction: the numbers for next week will be the same as week 2, and the cancellation announcement will be made the next day.
We have a winner!
And r79, it was announced today, not net week.
We have the first casualty of the 2013-14 broadcast season. ABC has pulled freshman drama Lucky 7 after two episodes, the second one posting that unlucky 0.7 adults 18-49 rating on Tuesday.
Starting next week, ABC will air repeats of red-hot Scandal — which hit series highs in its third-season premiere last night — in Lucky 7‘s Tuesday 10 PM slot until settling on a permanent replacement. There are no immediate plans to air the already-produced Lucky 7 episodes, and discussions are underway whether to stop production immediately.
The fate of Lucky 7 was sealed by that dismal Week 2 demo rating of 0.7, down 46% from the series’ underwhelming premiere. But in its defense, the adaptation of the British series was a low-key blue-collar ensemble drama with no stars that was launched with hardly any marketing push and no established lead-in (fellow under-promoted new series Trophy Wife) as part of an all-freshman Tuesday lineup.
Didn't TPTB learn anything from the last season of Roseanne? Nobody wants to hear about the "problems" of lottery winners.
Damn, I wanted to see the fat lady bust her husband cheating
[quote]Back in the Game will be the first to go.
Is Maggie Lawson now on two series? Or has "Psych" been canceled.
Lucky 7 was one of the few I actually liked.
And the second new series to get renewed is ... The Blacklist.
"Is Maggie Lawson now on two series? Or has "Psych" been canceled."
Psych came to an end because the stars/producers wanted to end it
R81, I really liked a British series called At Home With The Braithwaites. The basic premise was that a woman wins a huge jackpot but decides to keep it secret for a while. She soon finds out her husband is having an affair. She kicks him out and at the end of Season 1 she reveals her "secret." I thought this would have made a much better vehicle for Laura Linney than The Big C.
Psych isn't over yet, especially with Maggie Lawson now available again.
[quote]Sean Saves the World may be bad but am I the only one who thought some of the reviews were over-the-top nasty? I don't know, it just seemed like some of the critics were really looking forward to ripping this show to shreds and Sean Hayes along with it (the Hollywood Reporter review was especially nasty). Granted, they weren't high on Michael J. Fox's show either but there was just so much more of a respectful tone in those reviews as opposed to those for Sean Saves the World. Not writing this to defend Hayes, just saying some of the vitriol directed at his sitcom seems to have been about something other than the quality of the work.
I think, generally speaking, critics like Sean Hayes. Some of the vitriol is because critics know he's far better than this show.
On top of that, it's on NBC. NBC may not always have ratings, but it's the network that traditionally takes chances and pushes the boundaries of sitcoms, from Cheers to Seinfeld to 30 Rock. Sean Saves the World feels like a Nick at Night reject.
I don't think critics are that crazy about Sean Hayes, because for now he's basically known as a one-note gay stereotype. No matter how successfully portrayed, that's still what the Jack character boils down to. I think he's got more talent than that, but he hasn't proven it to the general public yet.
"I don't think critics are that crazy about Sean Hayes, because for now he's basically known as a one-note gay stereotype. No matter how successfully portrayed, that's still what the Jack character boils down to."
If you think the Jack character was a stereotype, blame the writers, not the actor. He had great comic timing, which is why he won an Emmy.
It must be very hard to be an actor trying to push a new show when you *know* it really kind of stinks and you might want to move on to something else.
But of course, I guess if you want to keep collecting the checks, you'll suck it up and lie about what a great show it is .....
We Are Men has just been cancelled.
True, R93, though to be fair, I think all actors do this regardless of the medium. How many times have we seen film actors go out to promote their latest movie saying how great it is, then when it comes out and the critics hate it and it bombs, they either (a) never speak of it ever again or (b) join in on the jokes and talk about what a dud it was (usually while out promoting their next project).
I predicted WE ARE MEN would be cancelled a few dozen threads back.
R8/R12 win (R12 got the name right so gets honorable mention even if they weren't technically first in this thread).
Actually, R1 is the winner. Lucky 7 was the first show cancelled, not We Are Men. Lucky 7 was cancelled last week.
Almost nothing new this season is worth saving.
R98, you're kind of slow, aren't you?
R8/R12 win for the SECOND show canceled. They were the first ones to mention it.
When the next show is canceled, a new round of winners will be announced.
This isn't rocket science.
Please do try and keep up.
Fox just picked up the show with John Mulaney that got passed over by NBC. He does stand up and was a writer on SNL. He created the character STEFON with Bill Hader.He's really cute. Based on that information (and the fact that this show only has one mildly funny bit per episode and therefore not worth the investment) my next pick for cancellation will be Dads.
It looks like Welcome to the Family will be next on the chopping block.
Ironside didn't do very well in its premiere, but I'm guessing they'll give it a little more time anyway.
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