Do you know anyone personally who doesn't have the internet?
Chatting with a friend this morning and he mentioned that he has an aunt and uncle who don't have internet. I couldn't believe it because I assume that everyone has internet- I mean it is 2013.
I personally don't know anyone without it and don't know how someone could function without it.
(I don't know how someone could function without a smartphone either, but I know there are still people with old cells.)
Do you know anyone personally without the internet and how do the cope?
The richest people I know, and they a filthy rich, do not have internet at home.
And old uni teacher claims he doesn't have the internet and doesn't have a phone. He thinks he's some modern-day version of Salinger, so this could be true.
I know a few people. Two are elderly women (yet I know an 88 year old man who uses it all the time).
R1- But do those filthy rich people you know have smartphones? Do they have iPads?
I have a relative to whom I am close. Person did not have home Internet until May 2012. I got the person set up. The individual has personality hangups (as does most people); but I was being used too much for looking up merchandise on Amazon.com, to check prices, and there were repeated reseaches on the same items. (Point was to see if items came down to a price more to my relative's liking.) I got tired of it but didn't want to say anything. I realized this individual, now 70, would be better off with one's own Internet. Not just for looking up the merchandise - but also for e-mail. To pay bills over the Internet.
Yes, older people and some who only use it at work.
R4. No smartphone, but they do have Kindles. I think they only buy books on the Kindle.
My father has no computer & doesn't want one. He doesn't even like the remote control for the TV & would prefer getting up to change the channel like we used to have to do (but he can't see the buttons on the modern TV well enough to do that).
Both of us just have landline phones (& only one in each house).
My boss, an 87 year old lawyer. We have to check (and send) his e-mail and sometimes do research for him. And when he gets stumped on the NYT crossword, he asks me if I can help, and if I don't know the answer off the top of my head, I Google it.
Many old bosses have their secretaries print out their emails for them.
And they dictate responses.
I know an old biddy know it all who gets proven wrong because she doesn't have internet to do proper research. She thinks she's first to find out anything with her delivered local newspaper.
I know bosses who are only in their forties or mid-fifties and do dictate their correspondence to their secretaries. Just write the goddamn letter or let me do as I please already.
yes I know a young couple with two kids that don`t have it... They can`t afford it and even had the land line taken out to save money
No internet. no smartphone.
Will not use a microwave (is afraid of it - and doesn't "know how")
Doesn't know how to use an automatic drip coffee machine (uses a stove top pot)
There is a brand new micro and Mr. Coffee in her kitchen (gifts from us from 10 years ago) sitting there unused.
My grandmother, who passed away last at age 78, did not have the internet or even a computer. She didn't even like using ATMs. She had a flip-style cell and she did tell me she was considering buying a computer so my cousin or I could use it when we visited her. Not that that was necessary for us.
I know some people who do not have home internet connections, but they do have smartphones.
Oh my OP, you do live in your own little dream world where everyone can afford computers and Internet. I'll bet you can't imagine anyone not having an iPhone either.
So many in this county don't know where the money to pay their rent is coming from or where the money for their next scrap of food is coming from. They are not worrying about being online.
Is it possible to have internet and not have an email address?
Fuck off r18. If you hate this country so much then move.
I thought I read that only 40 percent of people in the U.S. have internet in their home.
I would need to google that to verify.
I knew some rich people in the past and one thing they had in common is that they never watched television. Maybe there's less need for escapism on their part.
R18 is completely correct.
And it is absurd and ridiculous for you R20 to say R18 "hates this country".
You sound like a cretin R20.
No, R20, I just hate morons without a conscience and with no reading comprehension like you.
Where in my post did I say I hate his country?
Oh right...if you acknowledge that there are poor people in the USA it equates hating the country.
Now go back and play with your iPhone or with yourself, which ever is your preference.
Plenty of elderly people in their 80's do not have the internet.
My parents in their 80's had a computer and internet because my brother set it up for them, but a good number of women in their 80's in my apartment building do not.
My brother gave my parents a refurbished older computer and set it up and subscribed to the internet for the.
A friend, age 60, knows little about computer and how to use them, but just recently (eight months ago) bought an iPad to use for email and research because an iPad is much easier to use for people who have little or no knowledge of computers.
I know many people that don't have the internet. I have a friend that not only doesn't have the internet, she has never owned a computer and to this very day does not even own a microwave. Never had a microwave.
I know antique dealers who don't have the internet or a smart phone.
All of their inventory is fixed as of 2004 (the time when polished turds fetched good money). On the flip side, any time a fad hits their inventory is woefully under-priced.
One of the ways I earned some money was pricing my inventory for eBay sellers. You could see them calculating profit margin + shipping surplus every time they went through my stuff.
I had a microwave for a year, R26. I used it once or twice to melt chocolate. I left it behind one time when I moved.
Thank God for computer-illiterate (older) bosses.
OP, I am under 40 and do not use a cell phone. I have had DSL, however, for a few years now. I was a dialup holdout for a long time, but I now watch TV online, since I haven't had a TV since '05 and missed it.
I know a number of people who only seem to email from work - so possibly don't have a home computer, but might have a smart phone.
I know people who live in areas without good internet access - so either don't have a home computer or generally only access the internet when they are away from home.
I keep coming across people in their 20s with surprisingly low levels of knowledge about telecommunications - but who might have some basic form of smart phone.
There are also people who only access the internet at school or at a library; some older people who haven't embraced the internet; and people in jail/hospital etc. who have limited access.
My mother and my grandparents don't have it.
The main branch of the public library in my city has about 100 computers for public use, and a great many of the seats of the 100 computers are often full.
Yes, people access from libraries frequently.
OP, your scope is very narrow.
I've worked on a computer since 1987 and have had a computer at home for tons of years, but I've never had a cellphone or a smartphone and I get along just fine.
For you to think people cannot function in life without a cellphone and particularly a smartphone shows how limited and sheltered your thinking is.
I feel sorry that you are so uneducated and limited in your scope of thinking.
I work in a public library in an urban area. I don't know anyone without Internet access, but I see plenty of familiar patron faces that only come to the library for the computers. Every day there are at least a few people waiting at the doors before we open.
OP, maybe you're just so young you don't pay attention to people outside of your own age group.
My partner's parents. My aunt and uncle (who died two summers ago in their late 80s).
95% of the women I work with over 50 don't have Internet, email, and are stubborn as shit about technology. It's irritating, actually. They won't even buy DVDs. They still use cassettes and VHS tapes. I, however, am also a non tv watcher. We have 400 channels at home and on the rare occasion I sit down to watch tv I can't get into it. I don have add, though.
I have friends like r1's. Sociologically speaking, the reward for being fuck-you rich is that you don't have to deal with shit like the internet or personal phones -- you have people do it for you.
My grandmother, at 92, has a cell phone but no internet. My mom (her daughter) has internet but no cell phone.
I also know folks like the ones r18, r31 and r36 posted. The new socioeconomic divides seems to fall along lines of online access. Remote rural and poor urban kids and families do without -- and their job skills and marketability suffer for it.
Sure. It's generational, mostly old people, or older people in executive positions who have assistants do everything for them or who have never had occasion to use the internet.
Among the generational exceptions, I know some educated people in their 30s and early 40s who work in the field of digital publishing: they regard the internet in the way primitive peoples might have reacted on being introduced to fire for the first time: they have never purchased anything online, for instance, and for anything outside of the few familiar things they must do at work every day, need guidance from absolute step one ("Plug in your computer...")
[quote]I feel sorry that you are so uneducated and limited in your scope of thinking.
We are sorry you are so poor. Wait a minute, we aren't.
So you think the rich/elite will soon relegate the internet to something of which that only poor/stupid people partake? Just like "watching television?"
I have a friend that's 60, no computer and no home internet. We got him an iPad for his birthday. He goes to the library to use it.
I just upgraded to a smartphone recently, and I don't see what the big deal is. I hate trying to use the web on that tiny screen, and if you go 20 minutes out of the city there's no 4G service. A basic cellphone is fine, but I do know a couple (middle aged) people who don't even have that, and don't care. I also can't stand people who are so addicted to their stupid phone that they are oblivious to the world around them.
my father in law doesn't have the internet. we got him an ipad but it's useless to him.
This just came out a few days ago:
Pew survey finds that 15 percent of Americans don't use the Internet.
Personally, I'm getting burned out on the internet. It's a huge waste of time. It's also huge expense when you use broadband at home and have a smartphone. It costs me around $150 a month for both.
I've been seriously thinking about getting rid of the smart phone and just going back to the landline. Found out I can add a landline to my broadband service with unlimited everything and it won't cost me anything more with their bundle. I could save $80 a month right there.
The very rich tend to work 24/7. And most likely the internet isn't important for what they do. An exception would be people who deal with stocks.
TV and surfing do not build an empire.
R46 - I kinda agree with you and I wouldn't be surprised if more people didn't move in that direction. My phone (a Galaxy) will barely retain any battery power if I do anything remotely interesting with it, so it basically becomes a landline as it has to be plugged in all the time. Coupled with the fact that it's expensive and kinda boring...I mean, what are people DOING with their smart phones that's absolutely necessary? I used it a few times for GPS help which was nice.
For his next birthday, go to Walmart and buy the guy a Hotspot.
It uses the omnipresent cellular phone signals to allow his iPad to jump on the Internet.
Then he won't have to travel to the library.
[quote]For you to think people cannot function in life without a cellphone and particularly a smartphone shows how limited and sheltered your thinking is. I feel sorry that you are so uneducated and limited in your scope of thinking.
This is one of the stupidest things I've read here in some time.
[quote]For you to think people cannot function in life without a cellphone and particularly a smartphone shows how limited and sheltered your thinking is.
People who are under a certain age and have certain types of careers absolutely cannot function in life without a cell. If you're some geriatric old recluse of course it's a different story. It's at the point now where if you are under, say, 40 and don't have Facebook and can't be reached at a moment's notice through a cell phone people really do think there's something wrong with you and judge you.
I don't personally know anyone who does not have home internet access, but I don't know anyone over the age of late-60s. I am sure many, many people in their 70s and 80s do not have home computers. My 63 year-old father and 66 year-old uncle never use the Inernet and have no interest, but my mother and my aunt have pc's with Internet in their homes.
R51 is right. If you are not on Facebook, you're essentially invisible and people WILL think something is seriously off/odd about you.
My father doesn't. He barely knows how to use his cell phone.
"I've been seriously thinking about getting rid of the smart phone and just going back to the landline. Found out I can add a landline to my broadband service with unlimited everything and it won't cost me anything more with their bundle. I could save $80 a month right there."
R46, I get a completely free landline with unlimited free long distance calls by having a bundle with internet and cable.
R51, R52, your beliefs about the necessity of being on Facebook are incredible, flabbergasting, mentally retarded, mind-boggling, erroneous, outrageous, and plain ignorant.
The OP sounds like an idiot. There are MANY people who don't own a personal computer, either by choice or because they can't afford one. There are plenty of people who don't have "internet."
I assume the OP thinks that because it's 2013 every man, woman and child in the U.S. magically has internet access. That's just stupid.
[quote]if you are under, say, 40 and don't have Facebook and can't be reached at a moment's notice through a cell phone people really do think there's something wrong with you and judge you.
What? That is absurd. Only about half the people I know (under 40) are on Facebook. Even among those on it, only some of them regularly use it.
Now if you said "under 20", maybe it might have some validity.
A related mystery, at least to me, is those who have access to a computer screen 24-7 yet check their email only once every few days (sometimes once a week or even more). All of my professional and most of my social loops contact me by email, and there are as well the odds and ends, like when you get a new follower on twitter, etc. I check my email by clicking on an icon in one of my toolbars and it instantly brings me to my inbox. It's not time-consuming--quite the contrary. So why do some people act as though keeping up with their email is burdensome? It's especially annoying if you want to buy something on eBay but the seller hasn't described the item adequately and you have to ask him a question about it--and it takes him four days to answer.
I have internet, but no cell phone, and don't want one. I am retired, and hate talking on the phone. Never have liked being able to be contacted 24/7, no cell phone so I am not at your disposal anytime someone wants me. Very few calls are that important. I have a landline and I have Onstar in my vehicle so I have phone service in an emergency on the road but almost never use it. It is beyond me what the people who are on phone all the time have to talk about, you aren't that interesting.
My brother has a computer, his wife uses it. He doesn't have a cell phone. Refuses to read on a kindle or other device. This is incredible to me. He and his wife have traveled extensively,
both have master's degrees, albeit earned over 20 years ago.
Many older people do not have keyboard/typing skills. Typing was not a required class way back when. Younger people just do not understand sometimes how difficult it might be for them.
[quote]So why do some people act as though keeping up with their email is burdensome?
R58, it's a form of time management. You address your email on a set schedule. This means that you get your work done before addressing the needs of others. It's part of that 'Four Hour Workweek' strategy for getting what you want out of work while avoiding business for the sake of business.
My grandmother, but she's 97. She sort of stopped technology in the 1980s. She still listens to cds rather than mp3, she watches videos rather than dvds and still has a landline.
For Christ sakes, R61, not having a kindle or book reading device is more common than having one.
Most people do not have a kindle or reading device.
You are brainwashed, myopic, and insufferable.
So true, R62. I saw the way the world was going, and I learned to type at age 40.
M65, it is only now that I am older that I appreciate the Kindle. I can embiggen the typeface of anything I read on it. Try doing that with a book.
R61, if you really like your brother, get him a kindle and a gift certificate. I will never feel reading on a kindle is as real as reading a book, but the "change font size" feature means I'm probably going to read more books as I get still older than I would if I didn't have the Kindle.
R65 Oh you poor thing, have they hidden your meds again?
I did not mean that everyone must have a reading device. My point was that my brother eschews all types of "modern" technology.
[quote]your beliefs about the necessity of being on Facebook are incredible, flabbergasting, mentally retarded, mind-boggling, erroneous, outrageous, and plain ignorant.
I'm sorry, but it really is at the point now where if you are under 40 and don't have Facebook people think you're weird. EVERYTHING is done via Facebook now, like messaging and party invites, etc. I didn't jump on the Facebook wagon until 2011 because I really had no interest, but I had to because it just wasn't possible to stay in touch and keep in the loop with my circle otherwise.
I swear to Christ some of you must live in caves.
My dad (age 50s) doesn't own a computer or internet. He has the internet at work of course but not at home or on his cell phone.
He functions just like people did a decade or so ago when not everyone had the internet. He goes out and does real life things.
On the other end of the spectrum, my friend Jason has had over 90 per cent of the internet.
You swore you'd never tell!
I would think that more old people would have keyboarding skills than young people. Particularly for women - weren't secretarial classes part of high school programs back in the 50's and 60's? I'm old (58) and I learned to type at the YMCA at a summer program when I was about 10. Still got those skills but my kids (in their 20's) do not. They're all hunt and peck. My texting really sucks, though.
As for the Kindle, I still don't have one. I've been debating about it for a few years now. I will probably get one at some point.
Boys didn't take typing classes, R72. We would have secretaries.
R66, I disagree that R61 should buy his brother a Kindle. And I strongly disagree.
No one really needs a Kindle an R61's brother sees no burning need for one.
You do not have to jump on the bandwagon for every new and old technological gadget/device.
Talk about lemmings.
R68, you are describing your world. Surely, you know that the entire U.S. does not duplicate what you deem important in your world. The fact that you think everyone should copy your world tells us all we need to know about your critical thinking skills.
R72 probably had aspirations about being a secretary......BOYS/MED did not take typing. That was woman's work!
R74 I have friends all over the country and travel frequently. It's the same all over.
If you had bothered to read what I wrote, R74, you'd agree that having a Kindle might be a very good idea. It has absolutely nothing to do with "jump(ing) on the bandwagon" and everything to do with [italic]being able to read more clearly[/italic]. In fact, I was as cynical as you before someone gave me a kindle a couple of Decembers ago.
"Lemming"? Not in the least.
R67, R61, your brother does not eschews all types of modern technology.
Your brother has a computer.
Having a computer is all he needs.
For you to say he eschews all modern technology is absurd. He has a computer which is makes communication with other, research, knowledge, and buying items possible.
You are deeply insufferable. Thinking you are so superior to your brother and others.
R76, millions of people in the U.S. do NOT mess with Facebook in any way.
sorry, meant eschew, others, cancel word is
A very elderly friend was given a computer but refused to use it. He is afraid people will be able to see inside his home.
R77, I read what you wrote closely and I know you were saying you like to enlarge the type for more clarity.
Good for you.
100 percent of people in the U.S. can live without a Kindle.
[R63]: I'm not saying that everyone should be attending to email all day long, especially as much of it is just friendly gabble. But in many lines of work, email is now the vehicle for important communication, including from people who have a right to a prompt reply. If you're a writer, your editor might be sending you a query for a piece that's just about to run. Or there's the example I gave with the eBay seller. He could lose a sale because the prospective buyer gets fed up with waiting and buys what he needs from someone else.
In other words, why not check your email periodically, dealing promptly with the messages that demand prompt attention and saving the rest for later? I have a speed-up feature, too: I always leave ten unread messages in my inbox, so I can tell instantly by the parenthetical number next to "Inbox" whether or not I've got a new message.
R77, magnifying glass placed on top of print - which is what people did for centuries before Kindles and reading devices were invented just recently.
The same person who wrote this:
[quote]Surely, you know that the entire U.S. does not duplicate what you deem important in your world. The fact that you think everyone should copy your world tells us all we need to know about your critical thinking skills.
Is also frothing on about how no one needs a Kindle or should be on Facebook. Are you that tone deaf? Can't others choose their own things to "deem important"?
You're an old fool, and a hypocrite.
The youngest person I've met that didn't have or even wanted a computer or internet was a 35yo bi-sexual,ex-stripper Luddite who suffered from body dysmorphic disorder and had an obsession with music and performers from the 50s and 60s.
He was a cute,sweet guy with a great body which he always kept covered up because he always thought he was"too fat"...the last I heard he was being "funded" by some haggard, 49yo old blonde wannabe cougar bitch with money.
You're friend is not as paranoid as one might think.
[quote] I have friends like [R1]'s. Sociologically speaking, the reward for being fuck-you rich is that you don't have to deal with shit like the internet or personal phones -- you have people do it for you.
My boyfriend and I have always said we wish we were rich enough to get rid of our phone. If we win the lottery we are getting rid of our phones. Both of us have always been the person that answers the phones at work and we hate it.
[quote](as does most people)
There are always lots of people in public libraries using the internet...(it is kind of sad nobody touches the books anymore)
R84 (and practically every other R in this thread), if you stop drinking while you post online, I'll consider a magnifying glass.
"it is kind of sad nobody touches the books anymore)"
In the library near where I live people "touch the books" a LOT. You think everybody who goes to libraries do nothing but piddle on the internet? Don't assume that everyone on earth is like you. You'd probably dry up and blow away without the internet to waste time on.
My mother doesn't have a computer or cable. It's a bit frustrating sometimes, but I can't do anything about it. She doesn't really want either, and she's always talking that she can't afford it. She's 79.
I have several relatives in their 70s and 80s who don't have Internet or computers.
A few octogenarian aunts and uncles. But hey are aware of it and have access outside their own homes.