"Sunset Blvd.- The Musical" Will they ever make a film version , or will it take almost 30 years, like "Chicago ?
And who will star ? Streep, or Streisand, or ?
Lindsay Lohan. You read it here first.
What would be the point?
Again Glenn Close has first right refusal
as do we the audience r4
Yes in perpetuity, because the penalty is in millions of dollars.
Glenn also owns a piece of the Sunset Blvd franchise.
Anywhere it plays, she makes money.
It's not even that good of a musical in the first place. Besides a few songs, it's kinda blah. The only cool thing about it on stage was the set. Yet another show where Lloyd Webber tries to hide the fact that he's a hack with special effects and amazing sets.
Isn't Madonna pretty much Norma Desmond at this point anyway? Why not update the story and make it about a crazy has been pop star who gets with a hot, young music writer?
R8 Shades of Babs' version of "A Star is Born." Ugh.
The more time passes, the less likely that we'll see "Sunset Blvd: The Musical" in film form.
Soon, silent movies will have been dead for 100 years, and interest in classic films is fading. The young people the studios want to attract to theaters have never seen a silent film, or "Sunset Blvd".
[quote]The more time passes, the less likely that we'll see "Sunset Blvd: The Musical" in film form.
Chicago took 27 years, Sweeney Todd, 28 years, & Into The Woods 27 years to reach the screen.
[quote]Again Glenn Close has first right refusal
Voided by the clause covering wheel chairs and even scooters.
I doubt anybody thinks it would make enough money. They could do a version for cable.
Once Close has retired.
If they're going to spend half a billion dollars on a movie musical that nobody's going to see, I'd rather it be "Follies."
A film version of "Follies" would be an opportunity to work through some of its libretto problems. I actually like "Sunset Boulevard" the stage musical but I don't think it's crying out to be made into a film.
Yes. I always think when hearing "Waiting For The Girls Upstairs" how dynamic it could be on film.
It's a pity the new Sondheim doc doesn't stage that number.
They want to set Follies in the late 70s with the backdrop being the closing of a film studio
R16 One can only imagine the cameos ... it will be like the introductory segments to "That's Entertainment."
[quote] They want to set Follies in the late 70s with the backdrop being the closing of a film studio
That was the plan back in the 70s. I don't know if that was kept for the version Aaaron Sorkin was working on.
That is what they want to do R17
Personally, i would LOVE to see a film version of "Mack and Mabel"
Everyone seems to have forgotten about this gem
Indifference isn't the same thing as forgetting, Jerry.
Won't ever be made in to film because the general public understands what only die-hard theatre queens refuse to accept : the film was a classic because it was great story done in the perfect medium(film) for that story and perfectly directed and acted. NOTHING can improve on it -- certainly not turning it in to a stage musical. Certain work should be left alone because it's perfect -- a book, a film, a classic play --and NOT meant to be turned in to a Broadway musical or an opera or (shudder) a ballet.
You Follies queens are insufferable.
I'd like to see a remake of the film itself. They've remade everything else. I know it is heresy but I thought it was Swanson playing Swanson, with the exception of the one scene where she forgets herself (don't know if it was Swanson or Norma forgot herself) but the one where she's lying with him on the sofa and giggling about Mabel Norman stepping on her feet. The rest of the time she was just Carol Burnett's homework.
I recognize it was the style of the era and the genre.
Still, I'd like to see Norma played by a modern actress.
Follies really is far more deserving of the film treatment. They need to fix the script a bit. It really has no plot. Any ideas how they could even begin to do that?
Make it sung through!
Ah the magic of the musical...
Of course, Gloria had songs written for a musical version first. Then Stephen considered it as a musical for Angela Lansbury. Billy told him it needed to be made into an opera.
For all the harping, it is my favorite ALW show.
And if you are doing a remake of Sunset Boulevard, you might as well do the musical version, IMHO.
Sadly, Barbra is a little old for it now. Madonna, is the right age. (Norma's supposed to be 50.)
It really is about finding a star that was beloved (or at least liked) and using that the way Wilder used Swanson.
If they'd done it 15-20 years ago Doris Day would have been a great choice.
Who qualifies now?
Why bother? The original film was perfect and the musical version was bland except for the Norma songs.
[quote]Madonna, is the right age. (Norma's supposed to be 50.)
And Norma presumably had a voice that couldn't transition to talkies, so Vadge would be perfect in a musical version. Her triumph in Evita alone...
R30 I love you. Meanwhile, what happened to Bab's " Gypsy" ? Seriously, did she abandon the idea ? At this rate, she'll be 75 when they go into production. She should dump that idea, and just do SB.
While it's not officially off, but it seems Babs' Gypsy has gone by the way side. She said something about Sondheim being the hold up, which makes sense considering he's a very smart man and realizes what a hot mess this could be. Gypsy already has not one, but two lousy filmed versions. I think it deserves a good adaptation for once and I don't think Babs' version is gonna be it.
A shame, too, cause, in the 80's, she might have been wonderful.
I AM wonderful ....it's the decades that got older
[quote]She said something about Sondheim being the hold up, which makes sense considering he's a very smart man and realizes what a hot mess this could be.
Sweetie, peddle hat horsehit somewhere else. Sondheim is on film praising Helena Bonham Carter as Mrs. Lovett in "Sweeney Todd" and she had as much right playing that role as Myley Cyrus does playing Norma Desmond. He has worked with Streisand before, hell, his voice is on her Broadway album. The man would only complain if his checked bounced.
Say what you want, Glenn was terrific in Sunset.
"Say what you want, Glenn was terrific in Sunset."
Well, since you gave me permission, Glenn Close is the Paula Abdul of the Broadway stage. Awful voice.
And that face? That face! Perfect face for a bukake film, never again the screen.
I was I think it was one of about five people who actually liked the "Evita" film and thought Madonna was an all right Evita, but then in the context of the show she's a completely two-dimensional character, so it was within Madonna's skill set dramatically speaking (obviously she couldn't sing it worth shit, but that's another thread.) I think you could do Norma onscreen with an actress who wasn't that much of a singer, but she has to be an absolutely thrilling actress who you can easily believe was a knockout beauty in her day. Miranda Richardson or Judy Davis could do it.
I think you could do "Follies" set in 1970 without disorienting low-information audiences too much. I'm thinking maybe an opening sequence that shows the different major characters (Sally, Phyllis, Carlotta, etc.) in the process of packing, traveling, preparing for the party, while TV and radio coverage of the upcoming event play in the background. You could have Weissmann on a "Good Morning, America" type program saying his introductory speech in the context of an interview, interspersed with photos and newsreel clips of the original Weissmann girls (they could show a shot of young Phyllis and Sally as showgirls, a silent clip of the "Mirror" number, mention that TV star Carlotta Carlyle is expected to be there, with a clip from her hit show.) You could show Phyllis going through her elegant dressing rooms choosing a gown and Sally at the airport arguing with Buddy. Lots of vintage 1970s cheese, all grounded in sordid reality. And then Sally steps into Weissmann's haunted theater, where there's no sense of time and no one sees anything but their own illusions.
[quote] TV star Carlotta Carlyle
"And Norma presumably had a voice that couldn't transition to talkies"
There was nothing wrong with Norma Desmond's voice, except for an affected hoity-toity way of speaking. Presumably Norma's career went the way Gloria Swanson's had, fading because of changing tastes, not because of any fault of hers... which is one of the things that fed her delusions about a comeback.
Streep or Streisand. Norma is 50 - five, o. Fifty.
When they finally get around to it it will probably star a 20 years too old Abigail Breslin.
Follies almost got made into a film in the mid-70s, but instead of a theater closing, it was going to be about a movie studio. Bette Davis was all set to play Carlotta, and of course she would have sung "I'm Still Here." What a shame THAT never happened! Davis would have been perfect.
[quote] Glenn also owns a piece of the Sunset Blvd franchise.
I think you're confusing Glenn with Kyle Richards, who owns a large percentage of it.
[quote] Presumably Norma's career went the way Gloria Swanson's had, fading because of changing tastes, not because of any fault of hers... which is one of the things that fed her delusions about a comeback.
Norma Desmond lost her career because she was fucking nutz.
Glenn of course. Just look at her, she looks so young and fresh for the part.
When Anne Hathaway is 50, she can star in the musical version!
In an TV interview Lloyd Webber said he wanted Madonna to do the film version
Again Glenn Close has first right refusal. And if she is passed over, the penalty is in the MILLIONS.
They should do a film version where Norma is the only one who sings. Because only her songs are any good. It can be like Gentlemen Prefer Blondes, in that respect.
R48 Where did you get this info?
Unless it's a gay version, I'm not interested.
R49 You're right, only two excellent songs for Norma so either rewritten score or the way you suggested.
R51 Richard Simmons would be ideal for Norma.
Who would play Joe Gillis? I used to want Keanu Reeves. I don't know who could play the naïve girlfriend.
Tom Hardy for Joe Gillis!
R54 Isn't Keanu old enough to play Norma? 50? Keanu could play Norma and Joseph G-L Joe.
Keanu as Joe. David Geffen as Norma. Joni Mitchell as Max.
Sorry but I don't think Tom Hardy is attractive.
That's ok. Joe's not meant to be an everyday beefcake type.
It's hard for me to enjoy third-time-around film versions of stage-musical versions of original films. My Fair Lady (a slightly different twist because it started as a straight play) got it half right because they changed the play considerably and even called Pygmalion something else.
But Hairspray and The Producers should have remained the original comedic films that happened to have music that they were.
I don't thing Sunset Blvd. will fair any better
It undoubtedly won't. The original film is in a different league to The Producers and Hairspray originals.
But in the old (great) film...Norma looked 60 and Joe looked 40, IMO.
June Squibb IS Norma Desmond!
R57 Has the best cast choice. Let's get this thing done.
James Marsden for Joe Gillis.
He has a fine tenor voice, he's good-looking enough that you totally see why an old lecher is into him, and he looks younger than his actual age.
I saw Betty Buckley do it on Broadway, and thought she was wonderful. Friends who saw her, Close, and LuPone said that Buckley was the most successful of the three because she could sing the songs and act the role--the others could do one or the other.
Not suggesting Buckley--by now, she could play all the roles in her private interior "theatre," no doubt. Maybe Quenvenzhane Wallis? Or Shani Wallis, for that matter?
ABB (Anyone But Beyonce).
R28- since when is ALW a set designer? He writes tunes. That is all. They're some nice tunes, in fact.
Audra McDonald would be my choice if they would make the film today
I have the perfect Joe Gillis. There's isn't much of an age difference. But black don't crack, and white, well...