But only in 2300 theaters.
The actor who should worry about his 'star quality' is Joseph Gordon Levitt. 'Don John' opened in 50% more theaters than 'Rush' and yet did a third worse.
Don Jon was made for $3 million. Apparently Rush had a budget of $38 million. So Rush is the bigger flop.
Why shouldn't director Ron Howard be blamed? I never liked his movies, and have actively hated him since the whole The Dilemma controversy, which he handled deplorably. And that movie was a flop too. Lots of Howard's movies are flops, and aren't they coming more frequently now too? Hemsworth is gorgeous, he just hooked up with a loser director on his way out (hopefully anyway.)
Why would Americans care about a Formula One driver? This film should've been a British mini-series instead.
Oh well. At least it kills any chance of Alex Pettyfer's James Hunt film seeing the light of day, bwahahahahaha.
Oh please, I hate to say it BUT if it had an actor who is actually liked and loved, it would've at least opened to 20 million.
No on likes Hemsworth.
Tweens don't find him hot as he is married to a woman in her 30's with a kid. Women don't lust after him because he has zero charm. Straight men can't relate to him even though at first they thought they could but he's turned out to not be a 'mans man' and is socially inept.
Only gays who have little to low morals like this guy.
The reviews for "Rush" were almost universally good, so the director did his job well. It's the star's job to bring in people to see the film. And Hemsworth's face was all over this. Not good for him.
[quote]Tweens don't find him hot as he is married to a woman in her 30's with a kid.
What a stupid comment. He's 30 and WTF does his wife's age have to do with whether or not "Tweens" see his movie?
His brother is younger and was dating the queen of the Tweens and his movies have flopped.
Isn't this movie 'platforming out?' Are we sure $11 million is bad?
Ron refused to accommodate my schedule to star in "Rush", so I hope he learned his lesson.
I can't get enough Joe M.
I won't see a movie that does less than a 30 million opening weekend!
[quote]Isn't this movie 'platforming out?' Are we sure $11 million is bad?
It's in wide release. Over 2000 theaters.
It wasn't ever going to appeal to 'tweens', it's an R-rated movie! But it probably should have done in the $20 million range.
BTW, R6. "Thor" did well and he was married to the same wife who was in her 30s even then.
Yeah, I'm sounding like a frau, but how dumb to think Tweens are sitting there saying "Like, I can't go see this movie because I like heard his wife is like 34 or somethin'. Like really old."
I don't think R6's reasoning is correct but I don't think Hemsworth's appeal extends beyond standard action fare like Thor.
[quote]Tweens don't find him hot as he is married to a woman in her 30's with a kid.
Isn't the kid his? You make it sound like the kid is hers from a previous relationship. And even if that were the case, big fucking deal.
The weekend is over already? Why do end of weekend box office numbers come in on Friday night now? Why not go allthe way and post them on the Monday before opening, or just post box office numbers themselves without actually showing any movies?
Because they can estimate how the film will do throughout the weekend by using Friday numbers. Those estimates can fluctuate a bit but are usually pretty on the money.
Do they have to wait for the whole day to pass, or can they estimate from the Friday matinees?
Does anyone know if he's bearding? He pings to me, far more than Liam does.
He met his wife in his agent's office or something.
Sounds like an aranged marriage to me.
Any gay rumors?
I saw Rush. I was bored. The history was hurried. There was little to no character development. The most interesting things were the what happened after cards at the end.
It will flop in the US, where NASCAR rules.
"Why would Americans care about a Formula One driver? This film should've been a British mini-series instead."
Exactly. I'm not a fan of Hemsworth OR Howard but they aren't to blame for this. This movie was never going to be a hit - Americans were never going to rush out to see a movie about a British race car driver they've never heard of. Who decided to give this the greenlight?!
I didn't expect this to be a blockbuster as it is not a tweens rush out and see the first weekend kind of film. It will appeal to adults who like quality character driven movies (like me) but I don't go to movies on Friday or Saturday nights.
This weekend is all about football games, Homeland and Breaking Bad. Movie attendance will have to be impacted. There are also new episodes of The Good Wife, Boardwalk Empire,.etc.
"This weekend is all about football games, Homeland and Breaking Bad"
Homeland is a niche hit at best. And people can still see Breaking Bad and go to a movie if they want. Plenty of movies hit big during football season so that has nothing to do with it either. Are you a member of the Chris Hemsworth fan club? Just accept that the movie is a disappointment.
[quote]Only gays who have little to low morals like this guy.
Sorry guys but the majority of the actors you love have the personalities of an old dishtowel. No excitement. They are all interchangeable.
Yeah, him and his wife have a kid together. I don't think he's really connected with his fanbase. He wasn't the reason why Snow White and the huntsman was a hit. The breakout star from HIS film Thor was Tom Hiddleston. He seems like a nice enough guy, but I guess he's lacking certain charm that could make him a big star.
I think the fact that Rush is a period piece didn't help either.
Even someone as good looking as Hemsworth looked weird with his scraggly hair and odd clothes.
He has no charisma. He is eye candy and isn't bad on screen but he isn't a 'movie star'. It has nothing to do with his age/personal life etc. He just doesn't have 'it' and he isn't a great actor either so there's no interest if he isn't Thor (not that I plan on watching Thor 2).
I noticed that when Marvel wanted to promote Thor 2 at this year's Comic Con they brought out Tom Hiddleston not Chris Hemsworth.
Liam the brother is also a flop.
There aren't enough movies about Australian auto racing. I bet everyone would go see that!
His hair looks so ridiculous in the promos - almost wig like. I laughed the first time I saw Hemsworth in the commercial. The entire cast looks like they're playing 70s dressup for a Halloween party.
Also, no one in the States cares about Forumla One racing.
This is why they should have gone with full-frontal, instead of full-backal!
He & his brother define bland. When I watched SNOW WHITE (loved Stewart BTW. Never saw twithards) I didn't even remember him! Just a moody dirty jerk. Unexceptional
Hey, there's enough blame to go around as far as flops are concerned.
Neither Hemsworth nor JGL are stars. And Howard has never opened a movie on his name like Spielberg can,
Yes, JGL's movie only cost a few million to make, but the distributor payed several million for the chance to release it with a $25million commitment to print and advertising, so they're screwed.
I suppose you could also argue that Scarlett Johanseen and Julianne Moore aren't stars who can open movies either, but that's something we already knew right?
That's disappointing as I like Hemsworth. I do have to agree that he does not quite have that star quality or charisma. Does he have any other promising projects lined up?
He has "ginger face" with Irishy smiling eyes. They couldn't find a real Scandinavian to play this part? Smiling eyes and no cheekbones. Now THIS is a Viking god-
Is this one of those movies that's really made for overseas audiences?
Becaues $38 million is hardly a tentpole budget.
umm. It's a limited release, and the full gross hasn't been released yet.
[quote]Tweens don't find him hot as he is married to a woman in her 30's with a kid.
That's weird, Tweens seem to love Misha Collins who is also married and has a son. Maybe the movie didn't get the top spot is because another movie is out and is more exciting than some car racing movie. This isn't a Flop.
Formula 1 isn't popular anymore in the US. It used to be, especially during the time period of this movie, it was on Wide World of Sports every week, so anyone who remembers those days will be going.
Like me. That accident was horrifying and the face that Nikki Lauda wasn't killed outright was a miracle.
There's a BBC documentary on Youtube called "The Killing Years" that describes Grand Prix racing back then. It is chilling.
Um, R42 it IS in wide release. That's the full gross.
Speaking of non-stars, will Hollywood finally stop trying to make Olivia Wilde happen?
Pretty much every movie she appears in tanks, to the point where I see her face in an ad for a movie and just assume the movie will bomb.
I don't know who Olivia Wilde is blowing to get so many chances in Hollywood but it can't be that SNL dude she's marrying.
In what way is he not a "man's man." He seems pretty dudely to me.
So what - Thor and Snow White and The Huntsman both had huge openings. People will show up for him in the right movie.
I actually think he is a really good actor for someone so generically handsome.
I think it will make back its intial 38 million and then some, thought I read that overseas box office was very good.
[quote]So what - Thor and Snow White and The Huntsman both had huge openings. People will show up for him in the right movie.
Meaning people are only interested when he's playing Thor or a Thor-like character.
I think it has more to do with the Hemsworth brothers being overexposed. Last year, it seemed like every other movie that came out starred one of them. They're handsome, but bland and uncharismatic. And interchangeable at that. I wonder if the general moviegoing public knows that they're two different people. And since they're both overexposed, it leads to double the audience fatigue. They should stick to their respective franchises for the time being.
The tickets cost too much. Hollywood needs to produce "Pulp Fiction"-style MUST-see auteur-driven films to attract audiences. I might torrent this generic Rush sludge illegally and proudly. Ron Howard's movies are extremely simplistic psychologically. Why support them?
Why no trumpeting the triumph of Cloudy With A Chance of Meatballs 2?
Miley says 'Already had him, don't care.'
Opie is the new Frank Capra.
They need to stop trying to makes the Hemsworth brothers happen. They're terrible actors and have no charisma. This one is at least hot, the other looks like a gorilla.
According to Box Office Mojo Universal was expecting only 10-12 million from the US so 11 million sounds just about right. This will make its money abroad, and because it seems to be of high quality (87% at Rotten Tomatoes at the moment) it will carry on bringing money in the coming years.
And any film that gives the view of Hemsworth's luscious ass like this is a winner ;)
chris hemsworth is is borderline... but one the wrong wide of hot. text book butterface...
that's why the film tanked.. plus no one gives a shit about the subject matter
Estimated down to $10.8 million. Don Jon up to $9.5 million.
It's an excellent, fascinating film and one of the finest of Ron Howard's career. The trailers didn't do it justice: it sold the movie as a musclehead, "FAST AND THE FURIOUS" kind of dreck. And it's nothing of the kind. Intelligent, dramatic and well-done in every way.
r59, I don't think you should be calling anyone else borderline..
I want to see this film-it doesn't matter if it is Formula One racing, Indy car racing, or NASCAR- the protagonist was a very interesting guy, a real daredevil.
I don't like Ron Howard but I have been looking forward to seeing this film.
"Far and Away" was the worst tripe from Ron Howard.
"According to Box Office Mojo Universal was expecting only 10-12 million from the US so 11 million sounds just about right. This will make its money abroad, and because it seems to be of high quality (87% at Rotten Tomatoes at the moment) it will carry on bringing money in the coming years"
You actually believe that? I'm sure they expected it to do at least $20 million on opening weekend, they are just saying otherwise to make it look like less of a flop. That's what studios do - they spin. And lots of high quality movies do not make money.
"The tickets cost too much. Hollywood needs to produce "Pulp Fiction"-style MUST-see auteur-driven films to attract audiences."
Huh? Audiences don't want auteur-driven films, they want cheesy action movies, sequels, lowbrow comedy, and comic book shit. That is what makes money. You are confusing your own taste with what the average moviegoer wants to see. And saying the tickets cost too much makes no sense since plenty of other movies manage to make money.
[quote] they want cheesy action movies, sequels, lowbrow comedy, and comic book shit.
That does about sum it up, doesn't it.
You don't know that, R64. Slaves, slobs, pigs and twits go to see Transformers for their reptilian rush. There is an untapped audience, in neglect, who would pay fourteen dollars for an original, interesting, paradigm-shifting indie movie. NOT some fake indie, like "Garden State" - a real one, something that could be called must see. Not violent, not loud - different. They haven't permitted one to be made in years.
I don't listen to official ratings anymore (Rotten Tomatoes, IMDB etc), Howard is a big HW player, most critics won't dare to give his movie negative reviews.
That said Hemsworth can be a good actor at certain times, he is not a complete slouch. I watch him anytime over Cruise, Depp or Pitt!
The point is that while Hemsworth might be a good actor, he can't open a movie by himself. Actually, if I went to see Rush, I wouldn't go for Hemsworth, I would go for Daniel Bruhl. He seems like an interesting face. Much like Christoph Waltz.
It ain't no Cinerama GRAND PRIX that's for sure. Back then we had stars!!
Eva Marie Saint and Jessica Walter
It will make BIG money but from Europe & everywhere else F1 is big. And through video. These days the U.S. isn't the alpha & omega.
Ron Howard movies are dreck: hated Beautiful Mind...
This movie was terribly miscast! If Vin Deisel and Paul Walker had made it, with a bit of The Rock thrown in for good measure, it would have opened at well over $30M. All the people who took snotty kids to see that animated crap would've called a sitter and gone to see Rush.
(Of course I'm half joking here, people.)
Seriously, though, the tracking polls for the past two weeks alerted the distributors and producers what to expect as far as box office goes. They knew before it opened wide on Friday how it would perform.
The crass, over the top commercialism of Hollywood has conditioned audiences to expect spectacle. The real movies never do well. Not saying this is a "real movie" especially since it was a shameless ploy by Ron Howard to go after a certain audience by hiring Hemsworth.
If this film had been made even 30 years ago it would've done better. The only reason anyone who wasn't particularly interested in car racing every paid attention to Hunt, was because he was on the margins of the Richard Burton, Elizabeth Taylor scandals. Tabloids had a field day when Burton once & for all finally dumped her to marry Susan.
I am gonna see this movie and looking forward to it.
And for the person who stated what ticketbuyers are looking for, this season has been marked by massive flops in the comic book, sequel and action slates. Tastes are changing -- to what, no one really knows.
The movie is spectacular, Hemsworth's very good in it, too. Unfortunately, opening weekend numbers reflect how many dumb teenage boys went to see it. It's a movie for adults, not 15 year olds. It has excellent reviews and great word of mouth. It will have more staying power than the crappy movies teenage boys go to see and will probably get some Oscar noms. Daniel Bruhl certainly deserves one, so does the cinematographer and so does Hans Zimmer. Screenplay is witty and sophisticated.
Are there really any movie stars who open a movie big with only their name? I think all the big ones, Cruise, Depp and others, have had flops in the recent years.
You see, R74, that's exactly the problem. American audiences have been conditioned to expect certain thing. Car racing? Good. They go in with the expectation that it'll be lots of great crashes, and fires, and explosions, and blood & gore, and racing to the death! Don't give them a fucking plot. Don't give them characters with any depth. They was spectacle. They expect a contest.
R58, it's called s stunt ass, you don't see his face for a reason.
I don't want to seem hateful, but Chris Hemsworth reminds me of those B- movies from the 60's that I watched on TV in the 70's starring Steve Reeves as Hercules unchained. If he'd been around then, he's have been Steve Reeves. The old time studio system would have built Chris Hemsworth up as a real beefcake tough guy type.
His brother would've been Rick Hudson.
Chris Hemsworth pings about as much as Ice-T.
"And for the person who stated what ticketbuyers are looking for, this season has been marked by massive flops in the comic book, sequel and action slates. Tastes are changing -- to what, no one really knows."
For every movie comic book movie or sequel that flops there are two that hit big - real big. No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American public.
"The movie is spectacular, Hemsworth's very good in it, too."
PR shill alert. No one thinks Hemsworth is a good actor.
"I think all the big ones, Cruise, Depp and others, have had flops in the recent years."
If Cruise or Depp had starred in this it would have opened with $20 million or more. Even Rock of Ages and The Lone Ranger (both mega flops) debuted better than Rush...
Chris is a decent actor who will shine when given the right role. He was surprisingly very good in “Cabin In The Woods” and his American accent was flawless. Unfortunately most of the critical acclaim for this film is being directed towards Daniel Bruhl, who seems to be on the verge of a Christoph Waltz breakout from German/Austrian cinema.
So Hemsworth's acting in Avengers was unrepresentative? He had no presence whatsoever. And Chris Evans and Scarlett Johannsson were also in the movie.
Rush is now top of the UK box office, taking £1.3 million and it will no doubt do better in Europe, Brazil and Asia where F1 is more popular than the US as well as Australia where Hemsworth made his name. It has also received almost universal acclaim from critics, just because a film does well at the US box office does not mean it is a good movie and vice versa
"Rush is now top of the UK box office, taking £1.3 million"
That's equivalent to $2 million or so US dollars. Add $2 million to its pitiful US gross and you get.....not much.
"Chris is a decent actor who will shine when given the right role."
No one would be pretending this block of wood is a good actor if he weren't handsome. Dataloungers attack fugly actors like Jonah Hill but give a free pass to untalented himbos.
[quote]I don't listen to official ratings anymore (Rotten Tomatoes, IMDB etc), Howard is a big HW player, most critics won't dare to give his movie negative reviews.
Wow, how can someone who admits to knowing nothing about reviews, assert that critics won't give Howard reviews?
Howard's received plenty of pans. His last film (with Vince Vaughn) was completely trashed (and flopped at the box office. The Da Vinci code movies were trashed as well.
I agree R81. He is a decent actor and that's about it. Just like his brother but with bigger shoulders.
R84 It was never meant to be a blockbuster, but an intelligent tale of the rivalry between James Hunt and Nikki Lauda and the impact of Lauda's injury and did it extremely well, wowed the critics, and hit the markets the film was really targeted at such as the UK where F1 is strong. There have been plenty of films which have topped the US box office and been dire, US box office takings do not determine whether or not a movie is worth watching, which Rush certainly is if you have not seen it!
Why is is unfortunate that Daniel Brühl is receiving critical acclaim for his performance in Rush, r81?
He's a good actor (who also happens to be good-looking, much better in real life than he's permitted to be in the film playing Lauda), and he deserves a chance to break out.
I'm actually just surprised that Ron Howard has managed to make a film that's not just lowbrow trash.
The basement dwellers are out in force today. A good looking successful actor shines a light on the pathetic existence of a bunch of people who have nothing else in life than posting on an internet board. Chris is laughing all the way to the bank. You lot on the other hand.....
[quote]PR shill alert. No one thinks Hemsworth is a good actor.
The UK papers, I believe either the Guardian or the Telegraph, gave him kudos for this role, said it was a pleasant surprise how much he stood out.
I think he's grown some. Given a good script and a strong director he could impress. He certainly has the rugged looks to be a leading man.
This thread really is weird. The film is excellent. It's a film for adults - maybe the only one Ron Howard has ever made - it's also far and away the best movie Howard has made. It's aesthetically gorgeous, a witty, smart script with very good acting. I enjoyed it thoroughly, so people who are criticizing - see it first, you won't be criticizing it afterwards.
And to the person who thinks the U.S. box office is the be-all, end-all of movie profitability, the international market is far more important now and has been for two decades.
Rush wasn't made for the US market. It's F1 racing. OVERSEAS.
[R21] As much as I'd love it to be, sadly there's never been a single bit of gay gossip about Chris H. ever, even back in his early "Home and Away" days. There's never been a hint of smoke let alone flaming.
It's actually odd considering so many of the others - Hugh Jackman, Ryan Kwanten, Heath Ledger, etc. all had rumors. Even Sam Worthington is said to have scored at least one gay BJ. As much as I'd love Chris to be cocksucker, his brother Liam is more likely to be and that seems highly unlikely.
As for the moron decrying the film's opening, "Rush" was made for the international market. The domestic is purely secondary and Universal doesn't really care seeing as whatever they earn in the States they'll earn several times as much globally.
It's not a massive hit, but for $38 million it doesn't need to be. The acclaim for it means it'll also perform well in ancillary markets.
The U.S. box-office used to be the be all and end all measure of success, now it really is just another market. An important one true, but not the hitmaker/breaker anymore.
I don't believe Universal financed it, just distributed.
The dude who played Niki Lauda deserves an Oscar nomination. He was outstanding in that role.
Daniel Brühl rocks in this movie! Incredible performance.
Do you think the new racing film with Aaron Paul will flop?
I am going to see this movie tomorrow: it is now playing in one theater in the greater Philadephia area and will be ending tomorrow. This is the type of film to be viewed on a big screen and not at home.
I have been looking forward to this movie, I just haven't been able to get away to watch it.
I LOVED THIS MOVIE!
I usually hate anything Ron Howard puts out, but this film is atypical of his work. It is visually arresting and very exciting. The acting was very good-especially Daniel Bruhl. The screenplay was both witty and smart.
You haters don't know what you missed.
I thought Chris Hemsworth gave one of his greatest performances in Rush.
[quote]Does anyone know if he's bearding? He pings to me, far more than Liam does.
Yeah, it's pretty much an open secret in Aus. Back when Chris was on a soap opera, when he was just starting out, he "dated" one of his female castmates publicly while living with his bf, also a castmate.
When his star started to rise in the US, and the gay rumours started to make their way across the pond, he was hastily married - a quicky that was arranged by his and her representatives. A baby quickly followed, as per the contract.
She's knocked up again, BTW. I doubt he's pleased about that little development.
Liam, OTOH, is as str8 as they come.
I agree R3, Hemsworth was excellent in the film.
what is his next big project?
Hemsworth is re-teaming with Ron Howard for a movie about 19th century whalers and whaling ships. Not kidding. With Cillian Murphy, it's filming now.
Daniel Bruhl deserves the Oscar and the some, not just a nomination. Chris was surprisingly good. Avengers made me think acting was not one of his strong points.
R104 how could he not be pleased. If he's gay they must have agreed. She couldn't get knocked up by accident.
r108, he was wrong for Hunt. Wrong build and no charisma.
It's too bad Howard couldn't handle Alex Pettyfer; he was perfect for that role. All they had to do was tone down the nastiness a bit-Hunt could be sharp, but not really mean.
Chris was awesome in this role. Great casting.
Movie was awesome, great dialogue, tight script and great cinematography! Brühl got a well deserved GG and SAG nomination out of it. I think this guy is going places, he can hold his own alongside Judi Dench and Maggie Smith. Hemsworth was pretty awful, he is no character actor for sure. I think he is only in it for the money. (Bad example for all the great Aussie actors like Weaver, Colette, Pearce and Mendelsohn)
I watched the DVD tonight and really enjoyed it. I've always been a fan of Daniel Bruhl, and he was fantastic--I wish he had received an Oscar nomination .
The movie, though, exaggerates the rivalry between Hunt and Lauda. Apparently they were actually roommates and very good friends.