He has done more for gay civil rights than any other President. ObamaCare puts him in the history books. First Black President. I think he'll go down as being one of the best Presidents our nation has ever had.
What a joke
Care to elaborate R3?
R3 stop worrying about your dick.
Obviously being the first black president. What he has done for gay rights is historic also, there will never be another democratic president or contender who isn't 100% pro-gay rights because of him.
His big significant accomplishment will be healthcare reform. He passed a bill where everyone else for decades before him has failed. It isn't perfect, hell we still don't know exactly how it will play it, but it will be his defining legislation and part of his legacy.
He'll go down in history as second worst president, next to Jimmy Carter.
r1 [quote]first black President
Quit saying he's black! Barack Obama is NOT black!!! His mother was a white woman.
R6 is correct. Besides being TFBP, he'll be remembered for the healthcare reform that (in popular usage) bears his name. I have faith he will be championed for this association, much like FDR with the New Deal. It will be his lasting legacy and yet another "ordinary" government initiative that we won't imagine living without.
R7 voted for George W. Bush twice.
[quote]there will never be another democratic president or contender who isn't 100% pro-gay rights because of him.
Well, at least until the wind shifts against us. The only reason his thoughts on gay rights and marriage "evolved" is because he reads the polls, not because of some great moral sense of leadership.
I just can't with people like R11 anymore. I just can't.
Rather cynical R11? Early in his term he said his Administration would no longer defend DOMA which began the dismantling of anti-gay legislation. He is trying to get ENDA passed (Employment Non-Discrimination Act) So, I would say there is some kind of moral sense to him.
I know what you mean, r12.
Obama, at his 2nd swearing-in, could have taken the oath of office on a pink bible while wearing a tie with pink triangles on it and the likes of r11 STILL would not be satisfied.
Anyway,what everybody else said.
Let me be clear
Barack Hussein Obama is not only the greatest President in the history of the United States of America, but the greatest man who has ever lived anywhere, ever, at any time in history. The stock market doubled as soon as he took office, global warming is going away, the rich are going to start paying the high taxes they deserve to be charged for being rich, same-sex marriage rights are respected, and the US stopped fetishizing the private sector and so-called "civil liberties."
Not taking R11's side at all, but Della you really need to stop telling gay people here how to feel about gay rights or gay issues. You're not gay so you don't have that right.
Biggest Pussy President EVER!
First Brown President
Middle East Peace by Diplomacy
Saved the USA economy
"Dumb Della" strikes again.
Way to deliberately miss my point, r17. I wouldn't presume to tell anybody who is gay about how to feel about gay rights and gay issues.
I'm telling you about Obama's feelings about gay rights and gay issues and how, from any objective standpoint, he has gone further then any other POTUS.
There is much to criticize about Obama, but whenever anybody, be they gay, straight, bi, animal, mineral or vegetable finds fault with him about gay rights, I question their motives.
I stand by my post at r14.
Feckless leader. First biracial president (not Black, not White, biracial). Monumental liar, manipulator, Chicago huckster. Possibly first gay president, though I doubt that. First downlow "bi" president? R2 is hilarious.
But, what does it matter? Every SINGLE president in my lifetime has been a pile of shit. It's a "whatever" proposition. They ALL suck corporate lobbyist cock for their dinners.
Poor going in.... rich coming out.
Funny how that works!
He will be remembered for all of the bullshit he has had take.
He seems as if he will be remembered for his foreign policy given his phone call with Iran and how Syria is shaping up.
[quote]The only reason his thoughts on gay rights and marriage "evolved" is because he reads the polls, not because of some great moral sense of leadership.
The only reason his thoughts "evolved" is because Joe Biden's thoughts evolved first, and he went on a Sunday morning show telling the world that he's actively in favor of gay rights (which he was entirely right to do). The president HAD TO follow his lead after that. There was never any chance that the party would allow them to hold publicly differing views. It would have been the subject of every single press conference and interview with the White House that followed Biden's endorsement. It would have made the president look weak and the whole party look stupid, it would have derailed every other issue they tried to talk about.
But yes, it was not because Obama possess some great moral sense of leadership. We have seen quite clearly in this, and many other issues, that that's not the case. On gay right in particular, he was a follower. I won't argue that his following of Biden's lead, indeed acting as leadership for some of the country, but the REAL credit for that leadership is due to the VP.
He will be remembered for bringing the old white racist male politicians over the edge and for exposing where these ReThug creeps stand re their true colors about 'all Americans'.
Obama has basically exposed these lying thieving ReThug charlatans for what they truly are!
The man who single handedly lost the House to Republicans for a generation.
Every last one of those RethugliKKKans will be gone before the next election, R28. Now go back to FreeRepublic with your fellow psychopaths.
he idolizes the Russians and Muslims. what do you see in the future for gays? Look at the whole picture.
The end of the United States of America.
Presiding over the death of the Republican party, brought about by braindead tea-bagging morons like R28.
Do you know what I see in the future for gays, R30?
WE will be dominant everywhere.
WE will be the next generations' leaders of industry, government, education, military and the arts.
And WE will treat all our citizens with kindness, compassion and fairness. Anyone who tries to oppose us will be eliminated.
Before the 21st century is over, LGBTs will dominate the world. But it will not happen without action. The worldwide LGBT revolution is coming.
And.... What does your fantasy have to do with Obama's legacy, R33? ( hey, psst..., someone call 911, but don't make a scene of it - shhhhh, easy - smile like you agree and stuff, just nod and smile...)
R34: By supporting LGBT equality, or at least not standing in the way, he has helped us. But he has not helped enough. There need to be repercussions for bigotry, and he thinks just passing laws is enough. The Civil Rights Act of 1964 did not make cracker racists say, "well, y'all done won yo' civil rights fair and square, so I ain't prejudiced against ya no more." No, they just found other, more subtle and therefore more insidious ways to attack people of color and moved on to the next enemy: LGBTs.
They will pay.
And you attribute that to OBAMA, R35? For reals? Have you never heard of Zeitgeist? He's just camping on - remember, he was against the queers before he was FOR the queers? My GOD at the sycophants! The LULZ just keep on-a-coming. Political infants...
What R6 said.
Proof that there's still a whole lot of very old, very powerful, very rich, very mean men who hated the idea of a younger black man changing things for the better for the rest of us. To them, we're (less wealthy people) like cockroaches. You don't help them up, you smash them with the tip of your shoe.
Middle East Peace by Diplomacy
r19, you're kidding right? Do you even know what's been going on in Egypt, Iran, Syria and Israel? Right now Assad is laughing at Obama because of the chemical weapons deal.
Exactly what r30 said. Don't be fooled by Obama's love for the gays. It will disappear in a dhimmi minute.
Health care reform, gay rights and, it seems more and more likely, diplomacy.
R33 / R35 Love how you have some fairy tale idea that all LGBT people are kind, compassionate and fair and in the next breath talk about eliminating those who don't agree with you and "making them pay". You think you're so liberal, but what you really want is a totalitarian dictatorship ... so long as it aligns with YOUR ideals.
Much like Bill Clinton, the people believed that they finally had someone in office who was one of them, that would represent their hopes and dreams. They saw the chance for real change. Only for it all to be dashed because the oligarchy is our real government, the President really can't affect actual change, his behavior makes him far more conservative than voters were led to believe, he's in their pocket reaching for their wallet just like all the other politicians.
Real change in this country would have to be revolutionary. And we're all too busy watching Friends reruns and eating Cheetos to give a damn.
R42: This is not a matter of mere disagreement. It is a question of whether LGBT citizens are being allowed to live in peace. The anti-gay cultists are the totalitarians; their beliefs usually go hand in hand with other forms of repression. Without civil rights laws, all other civil liberties are meaningless, especially in a culture where the effects of 2,000 years of calculated homophobia are still with us. And when they attack us, do we have the right to retaliate? Laws alone do not change people's attitudes, otherwise Obama would never have faced prejudice ever again after his third birthday.
I want LGBTs everywhere on Earth to be able enjoy the same freedoms for which we have fought, and for which we are still fighting, in this country. This will not happen unless we fight for it with every weapon in our arsenal. If we must go to war to ensure human rights protections, so be it.
R45 Just stop already with that wannabe militant noise. You really are chock full of crazy.
A dream killer, frankly, for the many who believed in him with the kind of fever I witnessed.
R46 sounds more militant than r45!
Anything less than total equality for LGBT citizens is a war crime.
Hope and change
[quote] The only reason his thoughts "evolved" is because Joe Biden's thoughts evolved first, and he went on a Sunday morning show telling the world that he's actively in favor of gay rights (which he was entirely right to do). The president HAD TO follow his lead after that.
You don't really believe that, do you? Joe Biden's statement on Meet the Press was no accident. He knew exactly what he was doing, and so did Obama. Biden's comments were a test, a trial balloon to see how the public would react. If there was anger and outrage over Biden's support for gay marriage, Obama would have said that Biden misspoke and moved on. But since there was little negative reaction, Obama announced his support too.
Obama has always been pro-gay rights. He only claimed to be against gay marriage because he was afraid he wouldn't be elected if he said otherwise (the same reason Hillary Clinton and every single other serious Democratic presidential candidate also opposed gay marriage). Thanks to Obama, that has now changed forever, and future Democratic presidential candidates will no longer be afraid to say they support gay marriage. That's a pretty big deal.
First Moslem President who is a wanna be Christian but isn't! His last days in office, they will shave his head and the number 666 will be marked on the top of his head. Complete destruction of free enterprise and the American way of living.
Married Cheata's stand in for the Tarzan movies. They could be identical twins.
First dark-skinned President, Health Care Reform, Advanced Gay Rights, Middle East Peace by Diplomacy, Saved the USA economy from Cheney/Bush debacle.
I would be interested in learning from those who are disappointed with the President exactly what are your disappointments? What more were you or are you expecting?
He'll be remembered for ignoring and avoiding the Middle East problems through more than half of his time in office. His red line goof with Syria and rescue by John Kerry and the U.N. will long be remembered by historians.
He'll be remembered for advances in gay rights during his administration. Those who really pay attention to history will not forget how he delayed the repeal of DADT until the last minute and how he said "God" was part of his views of gay marriage. It was Joe Biden who pushed aside God's involvement in Obama's avoidance of full marriage equality support.
Health care reform. That's it.
A couple of you have mentioned this, but it's interesting how little attention it's gotten. And it's key to everything: He saved the US economy after Bush left the country poised on the edge of disaster.
I would have liked Obama to do more. Send the Wall St crooks to jail, for example. Institute single payer health care, instead of the reform we've gotten.
But he's been a responsible steward of this country. He's made progress.
And I will remind you, since I was a kid when Johnson put Medicare into effect: The conservatives hated Medicare, too. They tried to block it. They said it wouldn't work. They hollered and screamed.
And now it's considered a huge achievement, though one that's needing reform these days (reform it won't get, because again Republicans are trying to stand in the way of progress).
The first big step in Health Care Reform. I do hope that the next Democratic president takes it another step further to public health care.
His Nobel Prize for Peace is a joke. We're still bleeding money on wars.
The immigration reform - at the standstill.
Social economy - at its lowest.
And then this:
After five years in office, with the economy in limbo, Obama's healthcare plan has caused businesses to cut back on employee's hours and limit hiring.
[quote]He seems as if he will be remembered for his foreign policy given his phone call with Iran and how Syria is shaping up.
Obama will be vilified for his foreign policy for decades, hon. That's one thing the international community hates him for. The drones scandal will never be forgotten, nor the prosecution of whistleblowers. So don't try touting that line of work of his.
It's NOT health care reform. It's a joke. It was written by the insurance industry.
Obama will be lauded by gays for gay rights, even though he started off with his whole "god is in the mix" nonsense. He'll also be remembered for being the first non-white president. That's about it for the "positive" column. We still have three more years for him to fuck up.
Rescuing the economy in general. Saving the auto industry, and Wall Street. Remember,the economy, was literally in free fall as he was being sworn in. If you can't remember how truly terrifying that damned mess was from summer of '08, you need a brain transplant.
Killing Osama Bin Laden
Ending the War with Iraq
His use of drones, no matter what side you're on about it, revolutionized the way we deal with terrorism and warfare, just like the planes did in WWII and the HUEY helicopters did in Vietnam. The upside is that drones save lives and money and are generally more precise.
Reinstating better relationships with foreign governments. The world hated us when Bush was President. Hated us.
But honestly, the 2014 elections will affect his legacy. If he can't regain Democratic control of the House, and a good solid working majority in the Senate to get some work done and get rid of these obstructionist clowns, we are all screwed. The GOP has some really bad shit in store for us.
R43 Democrats are their own worst enemy. Obama always said in order for things to get done, people had to hold his feet to the fire so to speak. And yet when people did that on gay rights and healthcare reform, some "Democrats" bitched and moaned and swore it would usher in Republican rule for sure.
And yet when Obama endorsed gay marriage, nothing happened. These same clowns with their shut up and toe the party line are still screaming the same tired arguments (I'm surprised 2010 hasn't been brought up yet, that's the standard go to for these Professional Whiners) But they've become the bitter protestors still standing there as the bus has left them in the dust. But they will NOT BE IGNORED!!
If we had listened to these "democrats" we would still be where we were in 2008. They did nothing to get us to where we are now. Healthcare reform on the rise, and the first President who has gone on record as supporting gay marriage. What a difference three years make.
As we can clearly see, it doesn't pay to stay silent and be a doormat. Too bad we didn't learn that lesson decades ago.
While Obama is trying to "make nice" with Middle Eastern leaders they laugh at him. They know that POWER rules the world, not bowing and groveling.
I'm mistrustful of politicians on principle, but I honestly think Obama has done more positive and progressive things while in office than any other president in my lifetime. I can't see how anyone could have done better, given the realities of the moronic asshole Republicans he has to fight against every step of the way.
The ACA is a huge step, flawed, yes, but I believe it'll be seen as the first baby step to a humane civilized society here. Unless the morons find a way to obliterate it.
I think his foreign policy has been measured and reasonable, given what he had to work with. Same with his economic policy.
I'm only sorry he can't have another term. I don't think the Dems will come up with anyone as good in 2016.
Just to add an outsider perspective: Tommy Douglas, the left-leaning politician who brought universal health care to Canada, is consistently ranked in survey after survey as the greatest Canadian ever by a vast majority of Canadian citizens.
While Obama's legacy will include economic issues (just like any leader), breakthroughs in LGBT rights, foreign policy successes and failures, and simply the fact of breaking the color barrier at the presidential level, it is health care reform that will lead the list, since it directly and personally affects everyone.
First Black President: Yes, black. Unless there are no black people in America then. Virtually all black Americans have white admixture. Some with two black parents have more white DNA in them than Obama who's genetically blacker than most because of his pure African father). Also, he self-identifies as black and his blackness is the sole reason racism from the right is on the rise.
Obamacare: Most significant piece of legislation since LBJ's civil rights act.
The Economy: He brought America from the brink, preventing a catastrophe not seen since the Great Depression.
Gay Rights: There has never been a more pro-gay president and future democratic candidates will openly be for gay rights thanks to him. The unstoppable roll towards gay marriage happened on his watch.
Respect abroad: If strikes against Syria are avoided, he'll become the anti-war president because he thinks and listens before pulling the trigger.
I like what R19 said:
First Brown President (and putting up with the obstinate opposition).
Gay Rights (regardless of why, he did it, none-the-less)
Middle East Peace by Diplomacy (regardless of how, he is doing it, none-the-less
Saved the USA economy
Also Ending two wars. I'd also say Saved world economy, not just USA.
One may disagree about the worth of what he's done, but I hope we can agree that there have been a lot of changes by him.
Oh, and Barack may yet be responsible for the death of the Republican Party as it splinters into the Tea Party and Libertarian wings.
LOL at white people trying to take Obama from black people after he didn't fail like some had hoped.
He got the Republican Party into the warm bathtub and he opened their vein.
Pluses: Responsible stewardship. ACA.
Negatives: Gets rolled a lot. Nobel Peace Prize unearned.
That Nobel Prize is his Lewinsky as far as embarrassment goes.
R72, you're wonderful,
[quote] The Obama Legacy: What Shall It Be?
Keeping his head up. Rising above the blatant racism spewed at him by the Repubs, white nationalist wannabes, the occasional entitled white queen on DL and focusing on his job.
Yes, as R63 said, killing Osama Bin Ladin was a HUGE thing. At least, it meant a lot to me. That was a bold decision he made. If the mission failed, he would have looked like Jimmy Carter after "Black Hawk Down", which was not good.
Also, as R63 also mentioned, saving the auto industry was also bold and important.
I understand, R62. But that is still the answer to this thread. I will also note that Barack Obama's two elections will also be a part of his legacy. Especially with the realigning presidential election - favoring the Democrats - with his first in 2008.
Campaigns will never be the same. First internet president.
It will be the Trans Pacific Partnership trade deal in which he turns over US sovereignty to foreign corporation.
Do keep in mind that a "legacy" is not all positive. There will be decisions he made with negative consequences, or decisions he failed to make, or WTF-ever, that are part of his legacy. I often marvel how Bill Clinton is unjustifiably popular in spite of some really significant things that happened on his watch that have come back to bite us in our collective asses: NAFTA, DADT, DOMA, and the whole Glass-Steagall banking deregulation mess.
Bill truly set the stage for many of our messes. The fact that he went to work at the Carlyle Group and became great friends with 41 & eventually 43, is pretty telling.
Don't look for the banking community or corporate America to do anything like that for Obama. Clinton was representing the interests of foreign governments to the U.S. Congress in his post presidency.
Obama is so incredibly inept at negotiating with Congress, and deal making, the best he can hope for is a lucrative post Presidency making speeches. He does that really well.
"Campaigns will never be the same. First internet president."
R81, aren't you being a bit disingenuous? How can negotiate with people who really do not want to negotiate? This guy has had a time of it ever since his first day in office. A lot of that happened because (IMHO) he really never had a tenure in Congress and the opportunity to build a network. I think that's why we have Biden as VP but even with that the Republicans are hell-bent (so far without much success) of destroying the guy.
Gays thanking Obama for marriage equality should be thanking Joe Biden. He forced the President's hand.
Obama has proven that you don't have to be politically experienced to be a decent president. What you do have to be is intelligent, well- educated and well-read, with the ability to think analytically. Then you need the sense to listen to experts and consider conventional wisdom.
Finally, Obama is the first Black president and he'd tell you that himself.
He failed to start the progressive movement the country needs. Dems are in disarray and have made no progress moving the country to the left. The country is trending left of its own accord, but badly directed and bewildered. So far only Republicans have benefited.
He is the best president we've had in a long time, but the economic crisis called for a great man, and he clearly is not that. He has not been a skilled manager because of too many incompetent Clinton retreads and ignorant worthless economists in his staff, but he has been way more intelligent in his direction of them since every president since LBJ.
But his big failure has been political not managerial. He had a chance to change the debate in America from cold war slogans to a more fruitful level and he has failed to do so because he spends all his time chatting up Congress and foreign leaders and celebrities instead of the people of the United States.
In the end he doesn't understand what's gone wrong with America's economy and so he's not prepared to fix it.
Obamacare is a good step, gay rights excellent progress, diplomacy somewhat improved but the arrogance and interventionism is still there, the domestic spying is ludicrous and evil, but not the step we needed.
The country has only declined on his watch, but to be fair there is nobody who could have been elected in 2008 of whom the same thing could not have been said. He was the best we could get. But not what we need.
Actually, R85, he spends no time "chatting up Congress" including the Democrats in Congress. Republicans are R-soles right now but Democrats won't take a bullet for Obama because he ignores them.
Pivots too much. Floats an idea and moves on. Not many effective surrogates. Not good when you are in effect selling a huge health-care rollout to the entire US.
Proof that The Man always wins
R86 is correct. I know in my bones that the Republican Party is hateful and obstructionist.
I know they refuse to cooperate with him for no good reason. But I do also think he harms himself with the public by not standing firm on things. He gives in too readily.
If he knows they won't come around, he needs to get strong on them, and stand firm anyway. He needs to build his political capital with the public, and the public responds to certitude. The public responds to someone who stands up for what he believes.
I didn't vote for a Facilitator in Chief, I voted for a President. I hate it when this President says, on the campaign trail, "I hear you, America" then he goes back to the White House and negotiates away the very things he said he would stand firm on.
There is no follow up. One day he's advocating for an increase to the Minimum Wage, the next day he makes a speech about the environment, then another day he is talking about cutting Social Security benefits.
He is all over the place. There are all kinds of ways to compel Congress to do the right thing. Coercion by outside forces is a way he rarely explores.
He needs to be a good horse trader. A dealmaker. Everything is about compromise and trade offs. For him to expect people to "do the right thing" is foolish. He knows better. He is arrogant to think he will change the culture of Washington with a "high road" (as he defines it) approach.
As Chuck Colson famously said " If you grab them by the balls,their hearts & minds will follow." This President both too timid and too disdainful. He knew who he was dealing with before he ever announced for President. WTF did he think would happen? That the seas would part, and we'd all hold hands and walk thru together singing Kumbaya?
Same lies as the old regime. Both parties suck and essentially the same. Forgotten in 100 yrs.' time.
[quote]While Obama's legacy will include economic issues (just like any leader), breakthroughs in LGBT rights, foreign policy successes and failures, and simply the fact of breaking the color barrier at the presidential level, it is health care reform that will lead the list, since it directly and personally affects everyone.
Doubtful on the health care front. It will have to be majorly overhauled yet again, and that person will be deemed the "savior." Obama will merely get a footnote, a step up from Hillary Clinton back in the 1990s. He did however break through the 'health care will never be touched' idea. Hopefully, he's gotten the ball rolling. As far as legacy in relation to it, probably not much.
[quote]His use of drones, no matter what side you're on about it, revolutionized the way we deal with terrorism and warfare, just like the planes did in WWII and the HUEY helicopters did in Vietnam. The upside is that drones save lives and money and are generally more precise.
You're a frightening, cretin.
[quote]Reinstating better relationships with foreign governments. The world hated us when Bush was President. Hated us.
Bwahahaha! They hate us more now than ever. Man, you are the poster child for the insular American. Obama is seen as a madman. He's hated more than Bush on the world stage. Look at what happened to Hillary Clinton is a place like Egypt. You haven't seen hatred until you visit the Middle East and much of Europe when it comes to US foreign relations right now. The UK screamed for Parliament to stand up to Obama and oppose any intervention Syrian intervention. They do not like Obama. Israel overwhelmingly despises Obama. You need to start listening to people abroad. It's hard to believe but Obama is seen as more dangerous to the international community than Bush now. They look at things like Wikileaks and Obama co's reaction, and are outraged. It just keeps piling on, and makes the US appear to be living under a tyrant. BTW, I don't agree with that assessment, but the international community has already made up its mind.
You are just out of your fucking mind.
You wish to speak about "positive" legacy, don't bring up anything having to do with foreign policy.
...Keep this in mind:
You would think that Obama would be hailed as the guy who killed Osama bin Laden. He's gotten next to no political capital from it. That tells you how much of a legacy Obama will leave in the minds of the average America. Killing bin Laden should be the biggest thing to happen in American modern history. No one even cares now.
R91 you're nuts. Obama is not hated more than Bush. But I do believe that Obama does not exploit his capital the way he should. He needs to get more traction out of his achievements. His messaging sucks.
Ignore the freepers--and ignore the embittered leftists, who are simply the flip side of the freeper coin. Neither would be happy with anything done by Obama.
The Lily Ledbetter Act
The Affordable Health Care Act
Support for gay and lesbian rights
The auto industry bail out
On the foreign front, an end to the war in Iraq and deciding to gamble on Putin's suggestion about Syria. Also, there is the thaw with Iran. I predict he will go there in the next couple of years.
I can only imagine what DL posters would be like had there been an Internet during the Depression. The critics of FDR were not only conservative but also on the left--in fact, they were just as viscious on the left as the right.
Wait 20, maybe 30 years. He will rank as one of the best in the last century, and his blend of pragmatic politics and liberal beliefs will be the bar for future Democratic contenders.
r91, Obama is not hated more than Bush. Virtually every country in world (with the exception of Israel and Pakistan) supported his reelection over Romney. Obama is seen as someone who listens and open to changing his mind, thinks before he acts rather than shoot from the hip. If Bush were president, we would have had strikes against Syria and Iran by now.
Obamacare. Not really a good start!
Obama's approval numbers are approaching GWB's.
I have a feeling they will only get worse because of the epic failure of Obamacare.
He fiddled while the planet burned.
Half black president
The last two years will be barn burners. Hold on to your hats when he starts doing things for the last time...
Obama will get credit for gay civil rights but let's not forget - because I was in that room when he said it and won't forget it- during the election he was not for gay marriage he wasn't thrilled about repealing DADT/DOMA. Now, others had been working on this for many years, he became President, changed his mind (thankfully) and takes credit for others work. That is what President's do I suppose. In the future we won't have to worry about this. Both sides of the aisle (and the country) have changed so much, we'll have their support from the get go. And that also is a result of so many's efforts since the 50s60s until present. It just all got ramped up here fast and the last ten years have been (dont hate me for using this old tired expression but still love it) Amazeballs. ObamaCare? Sigh. I will say this I am HAPPY to see healthcare in my lifetime and I'm still young. Its just a very flawed program I hope someone comes and fixes, those that really need it I'm not sure will get it. Businesses having to re-adjust and some other things. Not a FANTASTIC President he is, even hard line dems will say he is no Bill Clinton. And Clinton, with all his random personal issues - I believe was truly a great man. This all being said the election of Obama was historic and I will never forget that night - also something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime and so proud for race relations. A little hard to have been so excited and days later we figured out the results in California and the major voting blocks who voted against gay marriage -- BUT have forgiven. That was a real shock. Ok stepping off political soap box.
A really bad two weeks for the President. Republicans are coming in with the knives just as the Senate did with Caesar.
"His big significant accomplishment will be healthcare reform."
Nah, that's been a debacle. His presidency has been a failure.
Without gay votes he would never have won. And he knows it.
The irony is that this mildly homophobic man will be mostly remembered as the POTUS in the White House when gay folks achieved huge civil rights victories.
The Drone President. In more senses than one.
Sasha and Malia?
Oprah's BFF President
Michelle's horrific dress sense
Being forced to accept the un-stopable gay marriage tsunami
There will be 3 different takes on his legacy. We no longer have a coherent narrative like when Cronkite was on the air or when FDR gave a speech and 85% of the population listened.
The right wing people live in their news bubble and it's a big one, they will twist his legacy to their liking.
The mainstream media will fall in line with their corporate overlords to say something that sounds balanced and leave out much of the important stuff.
The liberal media which is smaller than the right and who only the liberals listen to, but ate more honest, will lament all the missed opportunities and his lack of being able to fulfill his promises due to the insane obstructionism that ground legislation to a halt preventing him from achieving his goals. They will be harsh on drones, spying and coziness with Wall Street. But they will also give him his due where deserved.
Something a lot of people miss, and he wants it this way for now, is all the executive orders on climate change regulations that will make a difference.
I think the auto bailout and his handling of the Libyan revolution are understated. Libya may be in decline now, but he stopped a mass slaughter when the rest of our allies were just going to let it happen and it went exactly as planned. The bailout was a huge risk and disaster averted too.
He walked into an insane time which would have overwhelmed a lesser man and much of his success had been from a basic competence that was not there during the Bush years, And Clinton didn't have a fraction of real crisis or obstruction that Obama had to deal with so people remember him well because it was a good calm time with a robust economy.