Michael Douglas: I Haven't Been Allowed to See Son in Jail for Two Years
Free Cameron Douglas? Michael Douglas used his 2013 Emmys acceptance speech as an opportunity to draw attention to what he believes to be an unjust federal prison system. The 68-year-old Behind the Candelabra actor took home the award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Miniseries or a Movie at the 2013 Emmy Awards in L.A. on Sunday, Sept. 22, and gave a special "shout out" to his eldest son Cameron, who is serving a 10-year sentence in prison on drug charges.
"I'm hoping I'll be able to -- [they'll] allow me to see him soon," Douglas said on stage about his 35-year-old son from his first marriage to Diandra Luker. Backstage after his win, the actor further explained what he meant by the comment.
"Well, my son is in federal prison based upon -– he's been a drug addict for a large part of his life and was arrested and selling drugs and is in federal prison," Douglas, who is currently separated from second wife Catherine Zeta-Jones, explained. "And part of their punishments if you happen to have a slip -– this is for a prisoner who is nonviolent -- as about a half a million of our drug addicted prisoners are, they punish you. So for my son's case, he's spent almost 2 years in solitary confinement and right now I'm being told that I cannot see him for two years."
"It's over a year now and I'm questioning the system. Obviously, at first, I was certainly disappointed with my son, but I've reached a point now where I'm very very disappointed with the system and, as you can see, from what [U.S.] Attorney General Eric Holder has been doing -- and other issues regarding our prison system -- I think things are going to be revived regarding nonviolent drug addicts/criminals," he added. "My last comment on that is the United States represents 5 percent of the world's population and we have 25 percent of the world's prisoners."
Though Douglas ended his Emmys speech on a serious note, he started by cracking jokes and slipping innuendos about playing Liberace in the HBO biopic -- and starring opposite Matt Damon, who played the pianist's lover, Scott Thorson. "This is a two-hander, and you're only as good as your other hand," Douglas said to Damon, who was sitting in the audience. "You were magnificent. And the only reason I'm standing here is because you, so you really deserve half of this," he added. "So, you want the bottom or the top?"
Did he prepare the raunchy jokes ahead of time?
"I wasn't prepared for the response on the two-handed," he admitted to reporters.
"So that took me quite by surprise, but in acting we have expressions called a two hander, which means that it's all about two people together and you're only as good as your other partners -- you rely on each other through the whole piece. I wouldn't be up on stage without Matt and his performance and his commitment. Matt was a surprise. The bottom and the top I thought of that."
I do find it weird that they won't let him at least visit for a few years...is that what it's like for everyone in solitary confinement for a nonviolent crime?
The problem is he was caught smuggling drugs into jail once he was there. I agree that this is excessively harsh, but what the hell are these prisons supposed to do with the people who are bringing drugs in to prison?
Cameron, the fugly brat loser son, was caught smuggling drugs into prison using his own attorney. That son has wasted all of his privilege. Fuck off, Michael. You're just trying to atone for being a shitty father.
Heart goes out to them both.
I appreciate when boldface names come out on national or international violations of justice.
What I truly admire though is when they do that even before being forced to confront it by a personal tragedy. That's empathy.
The ones who are rabidly against common sense and justice (and aren't the two really the same?) and then do an about-face when it hits home is not so much. But thank goodness for small mercies.
Those who still do not have a change of heart under the same circs are the truly reprehensible psychopaths.
Examples don't spring to mind - it's late for me - but you know what and who I mean.
Drug addicts do the most shitty things, but this is not really something we are unaware of. What good could keeping his father from visiting him do?
The Us is still stuck in the dark ages when it comes to law enforcement and battling drug addiction!
What is wrong with atonement r3?
Aside from that, why would a non-violent criminal not be allowed visitors for so long?
If you believe that no humane privileges should be allowed to anyone in prison, then you may as well support that they all should be put to death.
Why would a lawyer consent to smuggle drugs?
No wonder he went to prison.
I love when white people are SHOCKED at the way prisons work. You don't want to step on the guard's own smuggling rackets. Of course the punishments are severe. Prohibition didn't work in the 30s, it doesn't work now. Legalize all drugs and solve 90% of crimes go away.
Did Michael Douglas have a son before he was ever married, a son whom he ignored? A son who committed suicide when his father refused to acknowledge him? All this before DNA test.
That he hasn't been allowed to see him in over a year, seems excessive.
Agree with R10
I can't believe the sympathy here for a drug dealer. And if you think drug dealing is a non-violent trade, you're nuts.
He had lots of chances and blew them all. Was caught dealing drugs in JAIL, for god's sake. He's in solitary, in part, for his own protection. He made enemies in jail and got beaten up and threatened. Plus, as someone pointed out, he had people smuggling drugs to him in prison.
Had he been black and poor NO ONE would care.
Isn't that kind of the point of solitary?
someone needs to make a joke about CZJ's age
My prediction is that MD will probably get back with Diandra at some point, they are bonding over this issue.
As far as his son is concerned, he deserves this, sorry.
But wouldn't his talking about it make some people realize how bad it is for the poor and black people in jail for similar reasons? That the prison system should be criticized?
They can't even contact one another via cagemeat writeaprisoner!
No doubt there are huge problems with the way this country handles drug addicts. Doubling a drug addicts sentence because they relapse in prison is idiotic.
But I hardly think selling meth, which Douglas was convicted of, counts as a non-violent crime.
He was caught selling meth from a Manhattan hotel room. I doubt very much he was cooking it himself in his hotel room.
Meth production and distribution has become a very violent business - especially since the Feds started busting small US based dealers.
He may be in solitary for two years, but I haven't aged a day.
Are you kidding?
does the mother get to see the kid?
I think he got his sentence extended because he was DEALING in prison.
Boo fucking hoo, his son is a total fuck up. Nobody else to blame.
At least Cameron won't have to worry about getting a job and supporting himself once he gets out. How long is he in for?
Yes, a Multi-millionaire talking about how his privileged son is being 'abused' by the repercussions of his own actions is exactly the kind of thing that will create empathy for poor black people.
Michael was too busy fucking around on his mother to pay attention to his son.
the sins of the grandfather are visited upon the grandchild
Why not, R25? Wouldn't people think, "well, if even this multi-millionaire cannot see his privileged son in prison, imagine how much worse it must be for a poor black person and no one is even talking about it." I bet some people would think that.
don't do the crime if you can't do the time
"Had he been black and poor, no one would care."
But they should care, and some do.
Most all drug crimes are over penalized, and the wrong people go to prison. Just my opinion.
These are the things I choose not to argue, I volunteer my time to inmates and reform. There is more murder in the hearts of people on DL everyday then there is in the usual person incarcerated for drug offences.
Honestly r28 are you that naive?
He originally had a sweet home arrest deal until he convinced his girlfriend to smuggle heroin to him. He got busted and sent to jail and I think she got time as well. When they raided his room he had pot and meth as well. He could of just kicked back and rode out his sentence, but he fucked up knowing full well what the consequences would be.
It does seem weird to not be allowed visitors, but I don't know anything about the prison system.
I can understand wanting to severely punish him for the drugs, but solitary confinement with no visitors for two years is inhumane.
And I'm certain the guards kicked the shit out of him for it, too.
Drug dealing is violent BECAUSE OF PROHIBITION. Did none of you ever see a gangster movie? Meth wouldn't even exist if cocaine had stayed legal.
Let's face it, drugs should be legal. Our country keeps them illegal so they can put black kids in jail.
By the way R23, you're a jackass.
Oh, boo hoo. His white, moneyed, and privileged status finally didn't make his spawn the exception that he expected they would (and God knows, that worked the first 500 times, as it seems his son got that many breaks before somebody finally said "enough").
I don't give a flying fuck about this entitled dipshit or his loser of a drug dealing pos son.
Michael Douglas, go lick a diseased pussy.
Keeping him in solitary is one thing; refusing him visitors is another. It's wrong. It's inhuman. Yeah, so he snuggled in drugs. So put him in solitary away from other prisoners but allow him to have a visitor once a week.
This is all due to sick religious people. They always want to punish, punish, punish. Now we use prisons in place of mental hospitals. I'm betting the mentally ill are in solitary too, since they can't help themselves and act out.
It was too lenient when prisoners were allowed to get free college degrees and body build. But it's gone way too far to the other direction of being disgustingly draconian. Our prisons aren't much better than the middle ages.
Allowing prisoners to get educations is proven to reduce recidivism a huge amount.
[quote] Our prisons aren't much better than the middle ages.
There were no prisons in the middle ages.
He has shown himself to be a danger to himself and other inmates by smuggling street drugs of uncertain purity into prison.
The last thing he needs are people, places, and things of the past.
He gets clean time without interference and drama.
Addiction is mean.
Think about what's going to happen when he finally gets out.
Has he ever held a job?
Perhaps he meant that out prisons are no better than living in the middle ages.
Is CZJ still in the bin? Does he visit her?
R41 of course there were prisons in the Middle Ages, even the ancient Greeks and Romans had prisons.
So sick of drug dealers. They should just die.
What do you expect the prison to offer him for punishment? 24 hours/day of Muzak? They can't deny him food, sanitary showers, or clothing. There is very little they can do to him for this transgression BUT deny him to have visitors.
And for those who say drugs should be legal. You really think meth should be legal? Meth??
"DUUUUUDE! Let's Party!!"
You weep for this loser? Really?
Prison, as a long-term facility where criminals served a sentence and by solitude and self-reflection would gradually come to atone for their crime (in theory, at least), was an "innovation" of the Enlightenment in Europe.
Before the modern period, and this includes early and high middle ages, there was trial and then sentence--financial/corporal/capital punishment, as it were. Yes, there were a few dungeon rooms where one or two inconvenient political enemies might be caged up--Mary, Q of S, the man in the iron mask, rival siblings of kings and queens, etc--but this was something different.
You're right about the Romans having prisons, though I think that was more of a slavery thing--the R's were never very squeamish about eliminating trouble makers.
[quote] Think about what's going to happen when he finally gets out. Has he ever held a job?
Only he and his trust fund officer know for sure.
R44 She's out but, no, he didn't visit her. He was too busy with Matt Damon and giving interviews about eating diseased pussies.
r48, where did you find that picture? He looks like a real low life there
Maybe he doesn't want to see his piece of shit father?
"Fuck off, Michael. You're just trying to atone for being a shitty father."
THIS. it's all about Michael and his being unable to atone for his shitty parenting before it's too late for MICHAEL to feel better about himself.
not worth a second thought.
[quote]He's in solitary, in part, for his own protection. He made enemies in jail and got beaten up and threatened.
Wasn't he severely so severely beaten up that the attackers broke his leg? I think I read it on DL. It was done on behalf of rival dealers, IIRC. How dumb or severely addicted does one have to be to mess with the way things run in prison?
I'm fascinated that his lawyer smuggled the drugs. Is this really true? What the hell kind of a lawyer would run that risk?
Better Call Saul!
I'm just so pleased to know that rapist grandfather of Cameron's has lived long enough to see his family destroyed.
Karma is, indeed, a bitch.
Solitary confinement is cruel and unusual punishment. That punishment only debilitates the prisoner. It is insane, the number of people we send to prison for drugs. Prescription drug users avoid trouble because their drugs are legal. Some states have contracts with for profit prisons where they are required to fill those beds.
Canada is the leader in the war on drugs by making it LEGAL to shoot up in a medical environment.
[quote]Prescription drug users avoid trouble because their drugs are legal.
Let me turn your addiction into a prescription!
Welcome to the real world, Mr. Douglas.
Now go wipe the drool off your rapist father.
I have no sympathy for this spoiled brat or his dad. God forbid someone who's white and rich should have to deal with the consequences of their behavior -- right, Michael?
Wait till it's your kid with an addiction...or you. Many of us are addicted to one pill or another. I don't really know the story of Michael's kid but then again, neither do you, R61.
THIS THREAD BROUGHT OUT A LOT OF FASCIST FAGS.
He's in solitary because he testified against the cartel and was beaten up for it in jail. He told them he broke his leg "playing handball." Yeah, right. The cartel got to him.
I don't care I'd he's an addict. It really is cruel and unusual punishment to deny someone in solitary confinement any visitors for years. It's like something out of Poldark.
He didn't kill anyone. He didn't rape anyone. He's an addict. He was selling drugs, got arrested and gave names of cartel members, which is a dangerous thing to do.
No matter what, a drug addict doesn't deserve to be separated from his family for years. Wait til it happens to someone you know. Or wait until some cop gets in your face for something minor, or something you didn't do. You'll soon find out you're not a human being to LEO.
Put him in a situation where he is in one room, and he talks to his visitor via telephone in another room. Many prisons do this. You see your relative on a screen and they see you on a screen. Easy peasy -- nobody can slip drugs to the prisoner, yet the prisoner gets to see a familiar face.
And if he was able to have drugs slipped to him via his lawyer while he was in prison -- WTF does that say about the prison? You're not even allowed to get a greeting card in its envelope with a stamp on it in most prisons, in case drugs have been placed under the stamp.
[quote]Wait till it's your kid with an addiction...or you. Many of us are addicted to one pill or another. I don't really know the story of Michael's kid but then again, neither do you
As someone who is a recovering drunk and has dangerous addicts in his family, I believe two years of solitary for an habitual relapser is for the best.
People, places, and things bring about relapse behavior. Michael Douglas would be a fucking HUGE trigger for me if I was related to him.
That's not facist; that's hard-won experience.
R63 is right. DLers are getting worse than the pigs.
Okay, guys, is there an online petition for this? How about a petition that non-violent offenders in solitary be allowed visitors?
My brother in law is a prison guard and from what he's told me two years is not extreme.
He said if a prisoner causes trouble, or is in trouble, it's the easiest way to deal with it, it keeps prisoners safe and the guards aren't spending all their time watching the problem prisoners while the others are able to get away with things because the guards are focused on one or two prisoners.
There is still money being offered to hurt this guy. Michael Douglas should be glad that his kid is still alive. There's a good chance he's alive because he's been in solitary confinement. It sucks not being able to visit, but his kid is still alive.
[quote]He didn't rape anyone.
That we know of...
Seriously R69,you`re NOT Natalie Wood, you only signed yourself that way. How can you know?
MD has spent half his career publicly exercising his many many many psychological problems and you want him to visit a junkie.
That's like having Dick Cheney wave a shotgun in the operating room as Harry Whittington recovers from heart surgery.
Such an obvious ploy to evade the real issue : the bipolar wife wants the kids.
Won't the cartel members kill him immediately after he is released?
We're not saying he shouldn't be in solitary. We're saying he shouldn't be denied visitors for years. Keep him in solitary for his protection. Allow him to have one visitor a week. He and the visitor should be in separate rooms, able to see each other on a monitor and speak through a phone receiver.
Its just like "Traffic"!!!
While he's in solitary, is Cameron forced to watch "It Runs in the Family" on a loop, that dreadful 2003 movie that starred the entire Douglas clan?
Like Liza shaking a bottle of pills at Lindsey in rehab...
Like Peggy shaking her pancreatic tits at poor Tig at the Cancer Treatment Center...
So he's a snitch on top of being a drug dealer. I would be so ashamed of this piece of shit son.
Like both of Nicky Hilton's eyes following Paris around the room wherever she goes...
[quote]I believe two years of solitary for an habitual relapser is for the best.
Then you're a fucking idiot. Years of solitary confinement are a virtual guarantee of psychosis.
This isn't intended as a therapeutic technique, moron. It's the most severe punishment (legally) administered in the penal system. You might justify such an extreme measure if he'd killed a prison guard, not for drug use.
Like Anthony Dryden Marshall volunteering to change Brooke Astor's Depends...
Whatever one may think personally of Michael Douglas, he at least supports his son. Joan Crawford, Bette Davis and even Barbara Stanwyck abandoned their children for issues the were minor compared to Cameron's.
Maybe Michael has a soul afterall.
[quote] Bette Davis abandoned their children for issues the were minor compared to Cameron's.
I dispute that about Bette Davis. Her daughter B.D. did write that tell-all book.
But the validly and accuracy has been called into questioned about the book.
Alot of the stories were exaggerated.
Bette son Michael Merrill has turned out fine, a lawyer with a long marriage and two sons.
Even if B. D. Hyman's book was complete fiction, a mother does not abandon her daughter, PERIOD.
[quote] Even if B. D. Hyman's book was complete fiction, a mother does not abandon her daughter, PERIOD.
When did she abandon her daughter?
Guess his son shouldn't have tried smuggling heroin into prison.
Is there really anything else to say? End of thread.
R85 Bette Davis NEVER abandoned her daughter.
She raised B.D., took her on locations all over the world. Never left her alone.
r88, but Davis did abandoned her daughter in the end, refusing to write or call. So what that B.D. wrote a book and joined the Holly Rollers. Neither Davis nor I are fundies, but you still maintain contact with your children to the end. That's what Michael Douglas is doing with his son. And Cameron's transgressions are far more serious than B.D.'s
[quote] And Cameron's transgressions are far more serious than B.D.'s
Nope--betrayal is always the worst thing.
"Bette son Michael Merrill has turned out fine, a lawyer with a long marriage and two sons."
Michael Merrill, Bette's adopted son, has been divorced from his wife for years.
Anyone who's read "My Mother's Keeper" is aware how exaggerated and ridiculous the content is.
B. D. was once everything to Bette, who even signed papers allowing her to wed at the age of 16 and threw her an elaborate wedding.
B. D. sold her mother out for an advance check.
Forget about the stupid book that almost no one believes. B.D. got trapped and brainwashed by a fundy cult. The mother should have gotten her out and deprogrammed her. That's called being a responsible mother. Plenty of other parents have done the same with far less resources than Bette.
Every time I see the name B.D. hymen I think "BD wants her hymen back"
R65, I was wondering about that. He didn't become an addict in a vacuum. Having said that, he has received multiple opportunities to clean up and blew them.
Many don't believe RDJ is clean, but I do. And he finally was able to clean up by doing the hard time.
Any thoughts about RDJ's addiction, R65?
Thoughts about RDJ's addiction- his father testified in court that he gave RDJ pot when a kid, did not say other drugs like LSD, but I imagine that too.
[quote]He didn't become an addict in a vacuum.
Michael Douglas has been treated for alcoholism and drug addiction. There's a genetic predisposition and the bad parenting doesn't help. What I found surprising and disappointing is that after the history he's had and the troubles his son has had with addictions, he showed up at the Emmys pretty lit. I didn't watch the ceremony so I don't know about his speech, but he was during the red carpet interviews. Odd, mixed messages that the old man is still giving.
Were any of CZJ's problems related to substance abuse? If Michael has been drinking regularly, I can't imagine it was an easy household to live in.
OP, the article says that Michael Douglas has not been able to see his son "for over a year now." It has not been 2 years. It has been just over a year.
The article says Michael cannot see his son for two years. But a little over a year has gone by, not two years.
BD was afraid the gravy train her mother had supplied for decades was coming to an end with Bettes stroke. Bette supported BD and her lazy shiftless husband, paying for everything they needed. BD thanked her by writing a vicious character assassination of a book.
I shed no tears for Hyman. If you see her now, you can tell there are some real issues going on with her.
[quote] B.D. got trapped and brainwashed by a fundy cult. The mother should have gotten her out and deprogrammed her. That's called being a responsible mother.
How would you suggest? By sending the Mosad in to snatch her, a la Adolf Eichmann?
Bette was recovering from cancer and several strokes when the book was released.
She was hardly in a position to kidnap her fat assed fundie cunt daughter.
Who is caring for adopted daughter Margo now, with Bette and Gary both long dead?
I still say Bette is a bad mother. Letting one's mentally ill daughter marry at 16 is not being a good mother. According to Davis, the daughter showed signs of being a psychopath from childhood. B.D. needed psychiatric treatment like her sister Margot.
The fundie nonsense started well before the book release. Right now she's the queen at that Charlottesville, VA church, terrorizing the naive.
When B.D. showed psychopathic behavior, Bette could have done something about it. Now there's nothing left for B.D. but a mental institution or jail.
Link below on parent dealing with psychopathic offspring.
I wonder how often he saw his son BEFORE he was in jail.
RDJ is not clean by any stretch of the imagination. He is handling his drugs a lot better than he used to, that's about it.
Cameron Douglas has always been a nasty little shit. If Michael's trying to paint himself as pained and pining Daddy right now, it's about custody of his two younger kids. The more CZJ has them, the more he'll have to pay her. That's my guess, I'm not sure what Bermuda divorce laws are like and both Michael and CZJ have been citizens of Bermuda for years.
Your views are kinda cynical r104.
If you cut anyone one of them, do they not bleed?
Have you been cutting?
Are you speaking from personal knowledge, r104? I'd be amazed if RDJ was able to keep the lid on a relapse given the recent levels of press interest in him.
Which one of Michael Douglas's sons committed suicide?
I think R103 said all that needs to be said.
R107, it was Michael's brother, not one of his sons.
From your persistence, I can only conclude that you must personally know (or have known) these people--BD, Bette, the brother. For some odd reason, you're convinced that the blame for EVERYTHING BD has done in her fricking ridiculous life should be heaped on the shoulders of her dead, single mother who brought her up at a time when psychiatric disorders were not as readily diagnosed--and that's if we accept that BD is deranged, and not just a highly selfish person who should be held accountable for her own actions.
It's always easy to blame dead people.
Those goddamn Ron Paul libertarians need to be stopped!
The fact that they oppose these evil jail sentences needs to be stopped!
Unless we put non-violent drug users in jail in solitary confinement then the sheeple might start to see how fucked up drug laws really are.
Mrs. Patsy Ramsey, formerly of Boulder, Colorado
I'm shocked he didn't take the opportunity to blame Diandra.
All the shit he has put that woman through over the years and he still treats her like garbage.