Are we convinced The Blacklist is the hottest new show of the season yet?

I'm loving it so far. It has the same feel as Spooks/MI5.

And I think James Spader is still sexy.

Recording, I'll let you know.

It's just coincidental the set-up is exactly like "The Silence of the Lambs"!

I might give it a look since it has Charles Baker (Skinny Pete) from Breaking Bad. It will probably be just as shit as Under The Dome, or nearly so.

Why does he look like a deflated, rubbery facsimile of himself? He looks far older than his years.

"I'm a Criminal.."

Yes we know this from your inspector gadget clothing....

My boyfriend DVRed it and I'm watching right now. So far (about 30 minutes in) it's quite good and I'm really liking it. I'll post more when I'm done watching.

James Spader looks like Darth Vader in Return of the Jedi when his helmet came off.

I liked it. I want to know what is up with the cute husband. Very fast paced. I will give it a second look next week.

R9

I want to know about the husband too. That was a shocker

First, it was too Silemce of the Lambs for me ....but it grew on me. better than Under the Dome!

Did Skinny Pete have a big role? I did not see him..

I watched HOSTAGES last night, and will watch BLACKLIST later in the week. I don't think HOSTAGES will hold my interest, but who knows? I mean, how long can a story like this be stretched out if it's a hit?

I think Hostages is just going to be a miniseries? Probably 22 episodes in total.

I hope the Blacklist is good. I miss James Spader on my tv screen. No hes no longer a hottie but he is a great actor. The premise of that show however seems better for a film. It may get tedious after awhile I fear.

[quote]I think Hostages is just going to be a miniseries? Probably 22 episodes in total.

I read up on it. Only 15. Good. It isn't a stretchable storyline at all.

Now, if only they let us see Dylan McDermott's penis (already seen his ass; penis now, please).

I really liked it. It has an air of "Salt" to it though, especially with the husband angle.

I will definitely be watching next week.

As for Spader, does anyone "do" smug better?

Yes

I thought it was pretty well done.

And the husband is hot.

After seeing it last night, I'm skeptical. It's just not that good, and certain backstory elements seem all too obvious. This is the kind of thing that the networks occasionally do well but all too often, as here, can't hold a candle to cable. Even Spader didn't impress me all that much. The female lead doesn't make any impression at all.

The best thing - spoiler alert - about last night was the set up for the irony involved in the marriage. The worst thing - spoiler alert - is the telegraphing that the two leads are father and daughter - if this turns out to be the case, it is all too obvious; if not, it's a red herring which better pay off by misleading us when the actual hidden relationship between them surfaces.

What is that scar on the Profiler's (now, THAT was a show) wrist? It looked like the symbol on top of the box she found.

It was shit. Very disappointing.

Spader looks and sounds like Nellie Olesen if she lived in the present day and had gender reassignment.

I loved it. The smart thing about it is that it's not, strictly speaking, a serial drama -- which I'm totally not into. It will have some continuing story points, but mostly it's self contained, episode to episode.

It's his butt.

"Co-star Olivia Wilde said, "With women taking off their clothes, everyone's polite. It's a closed set. Everyone's like, 'Are you okay?' When he did it was like, 'Chris, off!'"

I liked it. I'm not looking forward to the monster-of-the-week structure, but I liked the last thing she found out. I like a long-story structure, and the elements provided will keep me watching.

The Dylan McDermott drama doesn't stand a chance. I wanted to like it this much, but I can't.

The Blacklist looks more authentically DC. Hostages is also supposed to take place around DC, but it felt very generic.

When they settled Spader in his hotel room, they played the old Dean Martin/Connie Ford hit, "Ain't That a Kick in the Cunt?"

R22, I think that's the new approach to TV shows so that they don't lose viewers. If you miss an episode and can't catch up before the next one airs, you might decide to watch something else.

It has worked for Criminal Minds. I have missed a month's worth of episodes and been able to keep up. I do eventually catch up with OnDemand (love Optimum)!

The people behind Hostages claims to have a five-year plan for that show. Sure, okay.

I don't understand these post-Lost shows that have one big hook - some incident, a vendetta against a family (Revenge), an affair, a prison break, a heist, a terrorist attack, a hostage crisis, whatever - and then expect to run and run for years. Every time these shows spin out and crash and burn in their second year everyone acts so surprised. The truth is Lost wasn't really any good at it either, but all the copycats since are even worse. Hostages is a one-series premise at best. What's next? Let me guess: Dylan McDermott goes on the run. Toni Collette looks for him. A "bigger conspiracy" - that's all these shows ever do, like Prison Break, Revenge, etc. They try to go bigger to justify their continued existence and they're always TERRIBLE at it.

Ugh.

I like Blacklist but not certain about the charisma of the lead actress..and why does she wear a wig?

Really horrible show. Two episodes was enough. Sorry James.

R27, I couldn't agree more. Why can't some of these shows simply be limited series and that's it? I do think Lost went on for too many seasons. Flashforward, The Event, Revolution, Jericho...all should have been strictly limited series.

Not a word about Isabella Rosselini?!

I liked "The Blacklist" a lot . . . . the young James Spaded may have been nice eye candy, but the James Spader of today is a great actor to watch and absorb . . . . . as many other actors have said, it is the villain roles they love because they are far more interesting.

Urgh! Agree they're father/daughter. It's so obvious I want to throw my chair at the screen.

The Blacklist is definitely my favorite new series.

I'm not drawn to watch much more of the others I've watched. Hostages wasn't that interesting. The Robin Williams comedy isn't bad, but it's on opposite Grey's Anatomy and Glee. Maybe I'll watch it on line.

I wanted to like Lucky 7. I really did. I like Matt Long. But his NY/NJ accent is the worst I've heard since Anne Heche in Donnie Brasco. And the show isn't that good.

[SPOILER ALERT]

They've saddled his character with having him get talked into committing a crime moments before the gas station employees win the lottery.

Also, during Lucky 7's commercials, I switched to Chicago Fire, and it's so much more interesting that twice I forgot to go back to Lucky 7 until a commercial came up on Chicago Fire. It's not a good Tuesday at 10 show for ABC (like NYPD Blue, Thirtysomething, The Fugitive [for my mom]).

Next week, I'm going to watch Chicago Fire on Tuesday.

No way they're father/daughter. Way too obvious. She's probably the daughter of his biggest nemesis.

This week's episode was pretty good.

[Quote]No way they're father/daughter. Way too obvious. She's probably the daughter of his biggest nemesis.

When he off-handedly joked he was her father in the 2nd episode I figured that was the writers' way of putting that notion to bed.

I think he started the fire she was in in a attempt to kill here dad and he regretted it so now he feels a debt to her.

Casting breakdowns released in NY/LA yesterday included the role of Elizabeth's father, who's dying of cancer. Red visits him in the hospital and they discuss a secret they share.

Ugh, they'll probably cast Enrico Colantoni as the father. He's in friggin' EVERYTHING nowadays.

I like Hostages, each episode has improved. The 5 year plan is bullshit but who cares? I think part of the reason people aren't taking to it is because Toni is not very attractive. I've read a lot of comments on her appearance. She's believable in the role of a surgeon, a wife, a hostage, a mother but she's not pretty. Yes, people are superficial. Look at the horror that the Dzhokhar thread became because people say he's attractive.

R40, Felicity Huffman isn't "pretty," either, but I think she'd have worked in the role where Collette simply doesn't. I've loved Collette in almost everything she's done but in this series she's required to be in extreme anguish all the time and she's a chore to look at. Her facial features are clown-like and often contorted.

I love James Spader.

The Older male mentor obsesses on young female rookie is a bit of a trope but Spader does this role well by NOT making it too Hannibal Lecter-ish.

Now if she can just get ahead of him, it would be nice. I'd like to see the show give her more power and credit.

Where's Skinny Pete in The Blacklist?

The ratings are already slipping for this one.

This network TV season will go down as an unmitigated disaster.

R40, The five year plan is for blacklist.

Hostages is a 15 episode series, but due to low ratings, it will now be only 13 episodes.

R44 This new TV season is a great big Fuck You to the audience from all the networks.

This and Sleepy Hollow seem to be getting the most buzz, at least here. I've tried Sleepy but it's been difficult to get into. Just downloaded Blacklist today and will watch it later this afternoon.

R45, I've heard it'll actually be cut down to 10. And CBS could yank it off the air this week and do a deal with Netflix or Amazon.

Really enjoyed tonight's show.

Spader is just good.

Ever since the promoting I have been bashing this show bcuz it seem predictably and uninteresting. I was never interested in watching this garbage. Spader I don't know who this is and do not care. I prefer shows like Ironside and golden boy.

I like this show. It is fast paced and fun.

Ironside is such a bore and had the lowest ratings. It will be gone very soon.

Episode 2 had a few stupid things, the Freelancer jumping off a balcony onto a bare cement floor, but is supposedly unhurt because he's shown rolling as he lands. See kids, hop off of any balcony you like, just remember to roll when you land and you'll perfectly be fine.

Also the thing about getting Isabella Rossellini to confess by withholding the antidote until she did. Anyone would nod yes to get that injection, and that's all she had to say later, that it wasn't a real confession she just wanted to live. Of course once the accusation is made, the cops would look into it and she probably would've gotten caught anyway if she hadn't killed herself.

I'm still on the fence about Blacklist, but so far it's reasonably entertaining and I can see why it's been singled out as a favorite among the new crop of network shows.

I actually really like this show. Last night's episode was pretty good. Spader was very good as he teetered on the edge of emotion without giving anything away.

The Farmer monologue was very good and it made me wonder who exactly he was talking about? Himself or "The Stewmaker", probably both I guess. This would be horribly trite had Spader not done this speech so well.

That being said, there are glaring problems with the overall story though. I hope they fix — because I want this show to work. So here's my venting....

—The first episode seemed to have them capable of finding criminals in and identities and surveillance video with facial recognitions from their database at lightening fast speed. I can suspend belief on this but once they laid down that track, they have to keep up that pace.

By this episode they were slow as snails to find people's identities. Perhaps the writers felt their first example was too easy?

— This is the FBI. The lead female - a vetted agent— is states as having a 'mastermind' criminal for a Father-in episode one? They agents act shocked by this statement. Then it never comes up again. Shouldn't someone be finding out exactly WHO Lizzie's Dad is?

—In the same episode we learn the lead Male -Red- is a "Mastermind Criminal" who abandoned his wife and daughter - oh sometime back in the late 80s? Huh- go figure.

The audience is beat over the head with way-too-obvious suggestions that Red might be her father. Reddington's insistence on calling Agent Keen "Lizzie" for one. He jokes about being her Dad more than once. Then finally when she asks him point blank why he's focused on her he say, "You father." They're laying these clues down like BRICKS on a spongecake— but NO ONE on the FBI or CIA is looking up Lizzie's Dad? Even Keen doesn't seem to bother to look up her own Dad? IF HE'S NOT HER DAD, THEN WHO THE FUCK IS HER DAD? AND WHAT IS HIS CONNECTION.

This should be a central ongoing visible investigation, but it's not.

— In the first couple of episodes they have Reddington in a prison cell that could hold back a nuclear strike. (Yet they have nothing in the story to suggest he's physically dangerous.) Then in this episode, he's allowed to walk in and out of the FBI's investigation room, taking evidence with him, and literally no one notices or says a word. (Doesn't he still have a chip in him? )

— The FBI are now incompetent beyond belief. If a witness saw the man enter with a service dog — they should have at least started with that registry. Someone should have been on that line before Reddington was, they could have easily thrown in some legal obstacle that held back the FBI and put Red ahead in the end but the idea that it never occurred to them is ludicrous.

— The old guy saves the young girl is a tired trope. Please Make Keen more intelligent and capable. This is why Silence of the Lambs was interesting. We could see what Hannibal recognized in Clarice. While you're at it, please make the other characters more interesting too. A good anti-hero is only as smart as the people he outsmarts. This show has been a cakewalk for Spader's character.

—And finally, We're told that Remington is a bad guy but we're not seeing any real nasty action by him other then his reputation of profiting from criminals. She calls him a "Monster" but I'm not see it yet. Maybe I'm too jaded by today's politics but he seems only as bad as any other bureaucratic opportunist cliché we've seen in millions of other spy type shows. He's slick but it's too obvious something else is going on here that will make him noble.

Again- I will still watch the show. The good lines of dialogues and still interesting plot twists wherein the anti-hero gets the [italic]really evil [/italic]people is tasty and fun. I hope they pick up their slack before the general public catches on that this show might not be that good afterall.

[quote]Also the thing about getting Isabella Rossellini to confess by withholding the antidote until she did. Anyone would nod yes to get that injection, and that's all she had to say later, that it wasn't a real confession she just wanted to live. Of course once the accusation is made, the cops would look into it and she probably would've gotten caught anyway if she hadn't killed herself.

I got the idea that this confession wasn't about obtaining anything legal, but merely Reddington's need to hear or see her acknowledge it in front of Keen. He wanted Rossellini's character to be humilated. It was personal, for his friend - the silent black body guard (another stereotype).

One more thing, Rossellini being the real 'bad guy' was a nice surprise. Their interaction right before she died was brilliant. Those kind of good twists are also what make this watchable.

I do like that I can't really predict who the 'real' bad guy is or-if it's known— what they're actually going to do or why. The fact that Reddington is personally associated with most of them on some level, allowing him access that the FBI just doesn't have, is the best working part of this show.

Which leads me to believe Reddington will not be Keen's father- but perhaps her father will be someone who ruined Red's life.

After a few episode's showing Reddington help her and have affection for her— what if we're led to believe that Reddington is honed in on her as an act of vengeance?

That "Stewmaker" guy was SERIOUSLY creepy. I had a hard time believing he could've had a legitimate "normal" life with a wife and child, not to mention a professional career as a dentist.

Long, long ago, I read that dentists were sadists.

r56. He actually was more normal looking than most of the characters and I find it very believable.

Ugly people are more likely to be ignored and not paid attention to. Thus he was able to do his job without detection.

R58 I didn't mean his facial features -- I meant the whole deal with shaving his body and all of those weird skin things he had going on.

I question the plot point of putting one of the lead characters into so much danger so soon off-the-bat.

Don't they usually wait until the second or third season or at least during sweeps! to do this?

That guy was creepy as hell.

Doesn't anybody question the picture that Red took from the binder? Who the heck is she??

Curiouser and curiouser.

I also think that Lizzie does wear a wig and it will be revealed that she has massive scars and burns all over her scalp. Hence the wig.

Can't wait till next week for more.

Everything about this show is sex. Pure sex. From start to finish. Loves it.

What sex?

[quote]Doesn't anybody question the picture that Red took from the binder? Who the heck is she??

The date on the picture was 2/90 which would have put Spader's character in his late 20s at the time it was taken. The woman was too old in that photo to be his daughter at that age. She could be his sister, or a lover, or perhaps just a friend, but I think the date is significant.

1990 was the same year Reddington "never came home" and went AWOL from the Navy.

On the show's website they're naming the speech Red gave to the Stewmaker, "The parable of the Farmer." A parable is a story with layered meanings, so that story was also about Red and his descent into crime as much as it was about the bad-guy.

[quote]I also think that Lizzie does wear a wig and it will be revealed that she has massive scars and burns all over her scalp. Hence the wig.

Who she wear a wig to bed?

Though- if she did have a wig for that reason, it would make the moment Red touches her hair in the last episode especially telling. He knows it's a wig, he knows she was badly burned as a child. Maybe he had something to do with it?

hmmmm I like that idea.

Aha! I knew it was a wig..I posted that on this thread after the first episode...or maybe it is just a crappy costume department...a

Thought I read somewhere that she had to wear a wig for production reasons- like she had another job with short hair- but the idea that the character wears a wig makes a LOT more sense the more I think about it.

The first question Red asked Liz was about her burn scars. He brought the fire up more than once.

People were complaining all over boards and twitter about this wig being obvious and awful. They made it more obvious then have Reddington touch her head out in a moment of seeming affection, but no- he was acknowledging that she wears a wig. Then he tells a story about a Farmer who's crops are burned down.

r21, I thought the exact same thing last night, my first time checking out the show.

How can she wear a wig and not have it come off after explosions and kidnapping and torture?

Her bad hair is just bad styling. She is not even wearing a wig. Google her picture. That is HER hair!

She does wear a wig! From the NYPost

For her role as FBI agent Elizabeth Keen on the NBC drama “The Blacklist,” which premieres Monday at 10 p.m., Boone, who has a chic short haircut, wears a chin-length wig that makes her seem much more businesslike and ready to work with a team of hard-bitten FBI guys.

I'm slipping because the wig fooled me.

I'm a little concerned to see this show slip toward the silliness of The Following because I really like it. That ambush at the airport was ridiculous, then they just roll along as if nothing happened. And Spader doesn't come across as someone able to drop a giant with one punch.

Its not bad. The biggest thing that bothers me is that lead chicks hair do. Its a Mess!!

I feel so fortunate. Either I've never noticed anything wrong with her hair, or it just doesn't matter to me. The only time I think about it is while reading this thread. You "I can't watch it because she has a bad wig" people seem as joyless as the "Too bad it's photoshopped" trolls.

See ya. Wouldn't want to be ya.

[quote]How can she wear a wig and not have it come off after explosions and kidnapping and torture?

The torture had nothing to do with her hair. As for explosion-well- she might have some kind of implant or something. I don't know enough about it. Surely It there is a wig glue that keep that shit on. It could be partial, or something , I don't know.

Truth is, I didn't even notice the wig until I saw comments online.

But it seems implausible that a production would go that far out of the way just to give an actress longer hair. They could have used extensions.

I'm hoping it's actually part of the plot. It would make sense if Liz is hiding scars. It makes sense in a whole slew of ways.

The shot hair is cuter than the ridiculous wig....

How 'bout that wig?

It has to be part of the storyline.

The first thing Reddington called out about "Lizzie" was her HAIR. "You got rid of your highlights..."

There are all kinds of wigs out there made for semi-permanent multi-day use. Waterproof adhesives allow people to wear a wig for several days in a row or even go swimming in it. These kinds of wigs to STAY on their head in high winds, rain, etc.

Women with cancer, female pattern baldness, or any number of diseases that might affect their hair— all use "semi- permanent" wigs.

There are also so many Tweets out about this wig, that I suspect the company is activly pushing the audience to start noticing it.

The core story of the show might be good, and the show looks expensively made, but all I see is a show full of empty characters with unbelievable storylines full of holes which makes watching the show impossible to me. And I'm not talking about main storylines like the true motives of the main characters but little things e.g. how the whole Isabella Rosselini story was handled. It was all so childish, that after an OK first episode I was slightly shocked. It became obvious that the makers have no intention of making quality stuff so I had to bail.

Such a silly show, but many people seem to like it so apparently it has found its audience.

Last week's episode had tecord breaking L+7 numbers.

Is that a good thing?

I loathe this FANBOY show. Enough!

Take your meds, r81.

It might be the hottest new show, but I don't think I like it much. The last episode bored me silly, I think I'm on the verge of checking out. Not that any of the other new network shows are better, most are probably worse.

I love this show. I look forward to it every week. I miss the last hour of RAW to catch it, which says it all.

The theory is, the woman in the photo is his sister, Keen's mom. Forgot to add that.

I liked it at first, but I have no interest in the Monster of the Week storyline. I'm only interested in Ryan Eggold's storyline at this point. I almost gave up on it last night.

What's going on with the wife's husband ?

r86, we'll see more of his character next week and he'll be around for a while.

He's some sort of a spy, r87.

I really like the husband. So nerdy and cute. I hope he is a ruthless killer who has killed and killed again.

But in the next episode, he is going to claim he is innocent and was framed by Red.

EAGER TO EXONERATE TOM, LIZ TRIES TO LEARN THE TRUTH – MARGARITA LEVIEVA GUEST STARS – After Tom (Ryan Eggold) confronts Liz (Megan Boone) about the box – he claims he’s innocent and insists that they turn it into the FBI so his name can be cleared. Elsewhere, Red (James Spader) informs Liz and the FBI that the next name on the Blacklist is beautiful and deadly corporate terrorist, Gina Zanetakos (guest star Margarita Levieva). Diego Klattenhoff, Parminder Nagra and Harry Lennix also star.

r90, Can you please give us a spoiler alert?

Where are you getting that information???

Well that will be interesting because Red also tells Liz that Gina is Tom's lover.

So it'll be Tom's word against Red's, apparently. Interesting.

The Blacklist may be the hottest new show ratings wise but Betrayal is the hottest (sexy) show.

Damn! Betrayal has had some super hot scenes. The female lead had a fairly graphic masturbation scene, the male lead has gotten the female lead off with his hand, etc...

The 2 male leads are super hot and so are the 2 female leads.

Wish more people were watching.

I watched bits of Betrayal tonight (damn football). I like the show. Stuart Townsend is very sexy. I didn't know.

Start your own fucking thread, R93 and R94.

Thanks for the laugh, R95. With all the one word titles out there the last couple of years, I didn't even notice this wasn't the place.

Betrayal will be cancelled any day now. The two male leads are interchangeable and the female lead is an epic casting fail. No charisma whatsoever. Poor ABC.

I'm checking out of The Blacklist now. Megan Boone is just too much of a blank and the criminals du jour just not compelling. I hope the cutie husband gets to play Edward Snowden someday soon. He's what Snowden would look like if he was hot.

Are Betrayal's ratings that bad, R97? I find it curious, too, that the two male leads are so similar looking. I have to wait for closeups sometimes to determine which one is in the scene.

I watched the pilot. Now I catch it during the commercials that run during The Good Wife, plus the last 20 minutes provided by football overrun. I don't dislike the show, and I think Stuart Townsend is hot (the other guy looks like he smells).

So again, are the ratings actually THAT bad?

They are, R98. And there's no way new viewers will hop on board because it's a serial.

This is for Blacklist, not Betrayal.

Start your own thread!

So I think the girl they captured was lying and does know Lizzie's husband.

She was told to deny everything.

How is the radiation going to be contained underwater? Wouldn't they have Fukashima type problems?

Water neutralizes radiation, duh. Radiation can't travel through it because it's so liquid.

And it's a well known fact that cars driven into water become fully submerged in less than 5 seconds.

Loved the view of Tom's (Ryan Eggold's) abs and treasure trail in tonight's episode.

What is the theory of who is watching Tom and Liz?

racism! racism!

R103

The camera closed in on the man's apple. Was that supposed to be a clue as to who he is ?

Does this mean that the husband is really innocent?

I thought he was a killer but now I am not so sure.

It's one of my new favorites!!!

That awful girl playing Lizzie is totally dragging the show down.

Just heard that Spader is showing up drunk to set so they're having Red "kidnapped" for a few episodes so he can take care of his "issue" before the holidays.

Such nonsense! Spader is not drunk on set. He is in every episode.

I truly don't understand how James Spader aged that badly. He's either lived very hard or he has the world's shittiest jeans. When he was younger, he used to look a bit like Jensen Ackles. Now not so much.

R110/NBC publicity, pay attention. This has been happening on episodes currently being shot.

[quote]He's either lived very hard or he has the world's shittiest jeans.

I think you'll find I had the world's shittiest jeans.

[quote]He's either lived very hard or he has the world's shittiest jeans.

Gives new meaning to "sniff the fart" acting.

I didn't watch this week. I hate "Monster of the Week" shows. Ultimately, Ryan Eggold's character wasn't enough to keep me watching.

A crew person told me that Spader's showing up tipsy has been happening just over the past month. As he/she put it "We don't blame him-if I had to act opposite that no-talent bitch I'd hit the bottle, too."

Remember when?

[quote]He's either lived very hard or he has the world's shittiest jeans.

No doubt being fucked up and living hard, he shit his jeans more than a few times.

Black List was filming near 216 27th Street in Brooklyn last week.

LOL! Damn homophones will getcha at 2:30AM every damn time.

the lead actress IS fascinatingly bad. like a box of hair. it's almost enjoyable.

Coven is the best show on tv

She is a box of hair!

Her husband in the show is so cute.

I don't care how bad the actress is, I would watch James Spader read the phone book if such a thing was still used. He has real presence, you can't help but watch him and only him on screen.

It better be! They're filming outside my building and have reserved a four(!) block stretch from Tuesday evening through Wednesday.

I thought I had a good spot until Friday. Had to move my car when I got home. Fuckers.

Anna Torv from Fringe would have been perfect as the co-lead.

The current female lead is the weak link to the show.

Do you live in DC or NJ, R126?

Spader was a bad drunk years ago. I hope the tales of his drinking aren't true.

Ryan Eggold in his character of "Tom" resembles Chris Hayes from MSNBC.

I see what you mean, R130, but if Ryan Eggold were lying on top of me, I might cum in 10 seconds, whereas Chris Hayes might need 10 hours.

R131- you made me laugh out loud. And yes, R130, I can see the resemblance.

I love the way Red told Lizzy off in the last episode.

She was all like (you and I are only going to have a working relationship, no personal relationship at all) and he was like( umm.. no fuck that. We're going to have both a personal and a work relationship or I'm going to leave you ass high and dry. What do you say to that?) and Lizzy sheepishly says. Ummmm Ok.

I laughed my ass off.

I don't feel as though the lead actress is bad. She kind of reminds me of dozens of boring, sheltered government employees with no sense of humor and a constant "confused" glazed over expression of someone new on the job.

Can't believe everyone is talking about Ryan Eggold (who's very cute, yes) and not the hot piece of blond ass playing Liz's partner. Fucking hot to death. Could and would eat his ass for days.

R131, would you like to reconsider your statement? My cock is bigger than Ryan's.

Spader out acts everyone in the cast, IMO. The lead actress is pretty but she's dull and can't stand up to Spader's acting chops.

I liked Keen's 'bad hubby' storyline and hope they bring it back because them being happy together is a bore.

My friend who's a regular extra on the show said they filmed a "massacre" in the War Room today. Many FBI guys get shot and killed by a terrorist group called The Wild Bunch. My friend survived because he's friends with the girl at Central Casting who picks the extras.

R138 LOL at your friend not dying thanks to her friend (:

Red smothered Keen's 'father'. What is the backstory going to be?

We learned her 'father' took her in at 4 yrs old and raised her alone. Her 'father' also knew Red.

So, is Red her real father or her uncle ?

And who's watching Keen and hubby via the remote cameras ?

R135, you've got shit for taste. That guy isn't good looking at all and can't act his way out of a paper bag. He's awful and hugely unlikeable.

Loved the latest episode.

I hope after the winter break they loose keens wig. It distracts from the viewing experiencio.

r140, I think the backstory will be that Red killed Lizzie's biological father when she was a little girl and that she got hurt during the melee which included a fire (she has a scar). We've seen Red's "gentle" side so he probably didn't know his target had a little girl and he felt responsible for her. So he took little Lizzie to his friend who raised her. Now that she's an FBI agent, he's trying to pay her back for her loss and make amends for his previous wrongdoings.

Surprised how violent the last show was. She should have killed more thugs.

Megan Boone came off looking like a bitch at the Thanksgiving Day Parade. She looked over at Al Roker like he'd just crapped his pants.

He said a wrong last name, R146.

Aparently, the wig serves no other purpose than to cover her short, pixie, real-life hair cut.

When her hair grows out some more she will stop wearing it.

I thought that too, R146. Total cunt.

And Diego said the same patronizing shit every airhead actor says in an interview: "Great actors, so challenging every week."

Neither of them made me want to watch the show if I hadn't already.

another great episode. This show is so much fun.

Why is the show coming back so late? Jan. 13th?

He's the father and he left Lizzie with his brother ( the man he killed).

Some poster said that Red was going to be kidnapped because Jame's Spader had been drunk on set. What happened to that?

In today's episode, he said again that he is NOT the father and warned her about her husband again.

After a full episode with Red sealed in the box, Anslo killing people and trying to get in, and all the death and blood, Red finally steps out and says: "Anslo, what are you doing here?" Beautiful.

Is he really warning her about her husband. Didn't he say something along the lines of "Watch out for your husband"? That could be a warning. Or it could be an indication that her husband is in danger.

Okay, so the new theory I'm postulating is that Red is Resslers dad.

He went to extraordinary lengths to save his life. He cauterized the wound, even gave him a blood transfusion!!! Compatible blood types.

His girl Friday was killed and still would not come out.

He knew about the ex-fiance, too.

r156, did you watch that episode all the way to the end?

She asked him directly and he said no. The writers have since gone on record to say that IS the answer. So no, he's not her Dad.

Which I'm glad of because it would be way over the top if that were the case.

Yes, we are. Last night's episode was another good one. Writing is awesome on this show.

Anybody watch? I have a question about that woman at the baby shower.

This show is still entertaining. I can't say the same about "Sleepy Hollow" and Person of Interest is quickly becoming a festering campfest (that goddamn dog and its many fucking reaction shots).

r158 I was confused about her! I kept thinking she was Ressler's ex...

Are we seeing the episodes out of order? As R156 mentioned, Red's Girl Friday was killed but either we're seeing the eps out of order or they found GF's twin.

The black guy in Sunday's episode looks just like his usual assistant.

If you didn't stick with this show, you have missed a fantastic show of twists and turns! So great . . .! And I say this not only due to the fact that I love James Spader.

My friend at NBC told me that Megan Boone will be fired from the show and Elizabeth will be killed off. She said that Boone had a meltdown on set last week and screamed in front of everybody that she didn't even want to be an actress anymore. The crew absolutely loathes her because she has huge trouble remembering her lines and they all end up having to work even longer hours than necessary. It doesn't help that she's been a relentless bitch since the pilot. Spader has apparently had enough of her, too.

Megan Boone is not being fired. That is just bull shit.

She was the first person hired on the show and the show's creators have been very open that the show is really about her character.

NBC is not going to tamper with a big hit by firing one of the leads.

The show is coming in on schedule and your friend is misinformed

The last episode was so much fun. I love everything is over the top and characters die.

Up thread, someone claimed that James Spader will be away from the show for a while due to his drinking.

That has not come true. So many stupid rumours.

I believe the Boone gossip and wonder if she is having an affair with the creator of the show.

Megan Boone is hot. I hope she stays in the show.

@ R 40 Toni Collete is a great actress and very likeable. Likeability is something a lot of actresses are unable to achieve.

I like Hostages and Collette is great is everything she does.

Wow, R164, you couldn't sound more like an NBC/Production shill if you tried. Or do you work for her agents?

Boone has been a big liability on that show from the very beginning. Her "acting" on it has always been heavily criticized. Her nasty reputation has reached far outside the Chelsea Piers Stages where the show is shot. Al Roker fucked up her name at the NBC telecast of the Thanksgiving Day Parade for a reason. Killing off her character can spin the show off into a whole new direction. And that's what they will be doing.

What's up with Boone's reputation. Spill what are the rumours?

They should definitely get rid of the chick and make it a buddy-outlaw-chase show with James Spader killing everyone and Ryan Eggold taking lots of showers and washing his abs and gently tweaking his nipples and walking around in tight boxer briefs with wet hair.

i don't know anything about her reputation or these rumors, but she is by far the worst actress to score a lead on a major television show in decades.

she literally can't act with ANY emotion beyond a kind of slack-jawed, glazed-eyes deadpan. when the guy gutted himself in front of her in the last episode her face registered NOTHING.

i do wonder if she is sleeping with someone….

The husband's voice is really irriting. I can't think of anything but his voice. He's supposed to be a teacher but all he does is hang around the home and cook and a little house husband. How the fuck would a FBI Agent get with a teacher.

He's a spy, silly. do you even watch the show?

Who is spying on? His wife?

not answering someone who obviously doesn't watch the show carefully enough.

p.s. i am a lesbian but even i can see the sexy hotness that this guy brings to the show/

I thought Boone was bad until I watched Chicago PD. There's an actress on that show that makes Boone look like Streep.

r176, that guy looks like a former AUSA in the Chicago US Attorney's Office. About five years ago, I was on jury duty and the hot AUSA was the prosecutor along with some equally-handsome Sihk guy. I couldn't tell you what the case was about but I could describe the prosecutors in detail to a sketch artist.

The crew was utterly disgusted by Boone's outburst last week. They're sick of her inability to know her lines. Her dialogue now has to be planted on computer monitors and other large objects for her to read them off of.

You'd think the creator of the show had done a background check on her. She was apparently much loathed on the set of Blue Bloods, too. So much so that they didn't even write her an exit scene.

she does seem dumb as the proverbial box of rocks.

Boone is a terrible actress, but I only watch for the hot daddies. I don't know if I want to fuck the teacher or spader first. I love twisted characters, they are always good in bed. The hot agent reminds me of Matt Damon. He's cute, but boring. Give me a man with an edge!

The wig looks a little better. Dontcha thank.

Girl can't act. You can practically hear them yelling cut every time she takes a breath. Husband wears too many clothes. Spader is perfect.

Perfect summation, R182.

She has to go. They should kill her off and then daddy Spader can wreak havoc getting revenge.

R184, great minds think alike. That's exactly what I suggested a page back. Killing her off would give Spader's character a revengenda.

Eggold looks terrible without his beard, his chin is weird.

I think the hottest new show this season is SALEM on WGN...

I watched the premier this past Sunday night. It is very,very racy & Shane West is smokin' hot in it. Graphic sex scenes & some scary visuals of demons, possession, etc. Much more "out there" than I would have thought WGN would create & broadcast.

Did anyone else watch?

Upthread someone posted gossip that Spader had to go to rehab and around the time the attack on the center happened. In a Rolling Stone interview Spader talked about the difficulties he had with that storyline. So there was drama surrounding that shooting schedule, just not drunk/druggie drama.

r187.

ffs.

just pay the $18 and start a thread.

The season finale is tonight. Older and fatter, Spader is still hot.

I'm very late to The Blacklist - just binge-watched Season 1 on Netflix and caught up with Season 2 on cbs.com. Now, I'm obsessed.

It looks like we haven't discussed it since the Season 2 started (unless I missed a thread) - anyone else watching?

I love this show. We're still trying to figure out what the hell Lizzy is to Reddington.

He's clearly found his daughter.

I think Lizzy has her crazy husband in that locked room.

She looks better with her own hair. She had to grow out her own hair because that wig from Season I was much criticized.

When are we going to see her husband? He is still listed in the credits, but so far a no-show.

Agreed - it's her husband in the locked room.

I think they're making her too much of a bitch this season.

r193 The husband has deen in two dream scenes,and at least one scene where Lizzy was remembering their relationship, so that might explain why his name is still on the credits.

Really great episode last night. Great use of Ron Perlman. I love when they give Red great villians to play off of.

So then Liz is Red's daughter??

Who else could make Red grab a massive gun and go after her?

The plot was stupid, but I still enjoyed the show.

What did she find?

Lizzy acts like a petulant child.

Bitch, as if you'd prefer to live in a dumpy, trashy hotel room instead of in a luxurious apartment.

And Red saved her ass, again, and she still treats him like shit.

Can they recast Elizabeth? The actress is abysmal. I assume she is fucking someone high up. James Spader is carrying this show for her.

I am actually liking this season.

James Spader looks better here than he did as Robert California on The Office. I’m guessing he has some hormonal issue?