Does anyone here read slash fiction as a guilty pleasure?
I do! Some of it is so bad it's funny. All the fangurls have the same writing style (heavy on the purple prose and romance novel cliches). And some of the pairings are downright bizarre - there was one about Jerry Orbach and Sam Waterston from Law and Order! Seriously, who the hell would find that sexy?
I discovered it 7 years ago (googling for Kirk&Spock because I`ve heard the rumors before)and I was delighted with the weirdnes of the idea but now I check it out only once in a blue moon-for me at least ,novelty lasted only so long. DL will be quick to associate it with fraus but it`s written more by teenage girls and they can make much weirder pairings than the one you mentioned. BTW do you mean literally Orbach/Waterson-which i haven`t found-or Briscoe/McCoy (I prefer Briscoe/Logan)? Some girls mention `subversion` as their motivation,but I`d say it`s the 12-year`s old idea of subversion...Also I`ve noticed the small but growing portion of Slash written by gay men is more focused on sex than on romance(no comment).Even more weird is RPS-Real Person Slash-hello Prancing Ponies!
I do - admittedly, the majority of it is crap and badly-written, but if you can find a way to sort through it (through recommendations or some of the better sites that let you sort and filter) and find the occasional gem, well... it's basically free online books. Maybe I wouldn't read as much if there were a healthy and mature market for LGBT genre fiction, but the truth is a lot of the published stuff you find in bookstores or on Amazon (especially in the "romance" category) is basically the same - just as badly written, sometimes by authors who write fan-fiction on the side.
I realize that it's mainly written by women for women, but hey, so is a lot of classic literature I enjoy (Austen, Bronte, etc.). And I don't find the concept of running with TV-show / book / movie characters and writing original stories about them to be odd - writers and artists have been doing it for millennia (after all, the Aeneid is a fan-fiction of the Iliad, and all classical paintings are fan-art of the Bible).
I first got into slash with "Merlin", and now I read the occasional "Teen Wolf" (Stiles / Derek) and "Supernatural (Castiel / Dean) story, many of which are novel-length, and a few of which were surprisingly good and well-written. Sometimes the porn is hot, but more often than not I enjoy the stories that feature good plots (many of which are more compelling and make more sense than their source material - I'm looking at you, Teen Wolf), mysteries, romance, etc. - just like if I were in a library and wanted a "beach read" to pass the time.
I'm crazy about it, OP, and I'd never admit it anywhere but here. Most of it is hysterically bad, but I've found that some of it is pretty entertaining when judged by the "something to read for free" scale. I especially enjoy what they call the "AU" (alternate universe) stories, wherein to use your example, it's Jerry Orbach and Sam Watterson in love but one's a vampire and the other's a werewolf, or they're on Star Trek, or living after the zombie apocalypse. Some of what these girls come up with is pretty entertaining, though I suspect some of them are just lifting plots from drugstore paperbacks and inserting their crushes into them.
I've written about this on past slash fiction threads, but my all-time favorite is a granny who has written a saga about her favorite TV slash couple that makes War and Peace look like a haiku. She got them hooked up in the first chapters and continues to chronicle their domestic bliss in excruciating detail. They have the same adventures as on the TV show, but then we get to hear about every meal, every trip to the supermarket, all the housecleaning and yardwork, and above all, every second of preparation for Thanksgiving and Christmas. Their lives revolve around visits from "Mom" and they sit around and cry for a week after she goes home. And if they cook something regularly, sometimes we even get the recipe! It's my favorite bedtime reading, and once I reach the end I start right over from the beginning. It's sick just how happy her obsession makes me.
On the other end of that spectrum is an obviously disturbed young woman who writes the same short story over and over again. The plot in brief, again substituting OP's example for the actual slash couple: "Jerry Orbach runs into Sam Watterson's office to tell him the world's on fire. Sam knows because he is the one who did it. Sam is actually Satan and is murdering the entire population except for Jerry, his true love, who will rule Hell by Sam's side. Jerry is sad for his lost family and friends, but thrilled to spend eternity as Sam's concubine. THE END." Sometimes she scales it down and Sam is merely a serial killer or a monster of some sort, but the basic plot remains.
I wish I could link the actual stories so I could share the joy, but someone would inevitably troll the authors and spoil the fun. The actual slash boards are unctuously supportive, but I'd love to find a place that discusses them in a more DLish fashion.
By the way, the site I spend the most time on is "Archive of Our Own" (known as AO3), which has a huge collection of stories from various fandoms, and most importantly lets you search and sort through stories by pairings, descriptive tags (e.g., to use R3's example, "Alternate Universe - High School"), publication dates, and "kudos" (the equivalent of likes or thumbs up on a story).
Find a fandom that interests you, sort all the stories by kudos (with most kudos first), and delve in - some stories have been read by hundreds of thousands of readers and given thousands of kudos. Admittedly, the sites' readership tastes tends toward the romantic / first love / sappy domestic bliss variety (often termed "fluff"), but stories with a lot of kudos will usually be fairly well-written (and maybe a little hot).
Co-signing R4's AO3 recommendation. It's the easiest site to navigate and where you'll find the best quality stories. However, if you want to read the insanely bad stuff, you're better off at FanFiction.net. They have recently started frowning on slash pairings, but people still manage to sneak it in regularly.
"Even more weird is RPS-Real Person Slash-hello Prancing Ponies!"
Real Person Slash is soooo strange. I wonder if the real people featured in the stories ever stumble across them on the internet and get weirded out by reading erotic stories about themselves.
Yes. DC Comics. I like the Superboy / Tim Drake stuff, though I don't like it when Tim is made uber-feminine. He's supposed to be Robin for god's sake!
R3, re your all time favorite(the `granny`-written one) can you reveal what couple is it concretely,maybe even provide a link or at least name a site in question? I`m intrigued.
I'm dying to share it with someone, R8, but as I said upthread, I'd be crushed if someone from here trolled the author. Besides ruining my fun, I'm certain it would hurt her feelings.
She posts her stories on FanFiction.net. The first story in the series has the word "life" in the title. Along with the details I've already given, that should point you in the right direction. You'll know it when you see it. Please come back and obsess with me if you're so inclined.
Yes, I admit I read slash. But, slash fics run the spectrum from very professional and well written to just utterly HORRIBLE crap written by teen-age girls. You have to sift through the shit to find the gold.
One of the most beautiful slash fics I ever read was a LOTR story that involved Gandalf / Legolas. Some of the worst were about One Direction having orgies with each other.
There IS good slash out there. You just need to be patient.
[quote] but the truth is a lot of the published stuff you find in bookstores or on Amazon (especially in the "romance" category) is basically the same - just as badly written, sometimes by authors who write fan-fiction on the side.
God, this is so true. I wish published GLBT fiction was half as good as some of the most mediocre fanfiction stories I've read on the internet. The sad truth is that I have read more genuinely well-written and interesting fanfictions than I have published gay fiction - and not for lack of trying with the latter.
Love this discussion and love good fan fic.
One of the best, near professional fan fic, is done by an author named Telanu, who runs the Rag and Bone web site.
She's written m/m about Harry Potter and Snape and f/f about Miranda and Andrea from Devil Wears Prada (called Truth and Measure) that is the best fan fiction you'll find anywhere. Pro level stuff.
There was also a woman cop with the handle Snuffy that wrote some Rizzoli and Isles f/f that is very good.
[quote]Some of the worst were about One Direction having orgies with each other.
I must have missed those.
I did make it through most of one, called Room 317, but it was hardly sex-filled. Harry and Louis didn't even J/O each other until Chapter 17. That was the problem--the damn thing seemed as long as Gone with the Wind.
The writing was better than I'd expected but it had a morbid tone: The title refers to a hospital room.
As far as the sex scenes, they were of the Jackie Collins/Shirley Conran variety:
Harry doubled his pace, pressing his tongue around the head every so often and reached out, with one hand, to fondle Louis’s balls. That’s all it took and, with a sharp cry of warning, Louis’s hands tightened painfully in his hair as he spurted hotly into Harry’s mouth.
Harry kept sucking until Louis was finished.
When the last drop had been rung from him, Louis collapsed back against the door, panting and sagging a little after the orgasm, Harry sat back and looked up at his boyfriend with hooded eyes. Like the pro he was becoming, he stared Louis right in the eye and very deliberately… swallowed.
TMZ`s got nothing on these girls.
Does anyone know where to find some decent "Game of Thronse" slashfic?
I've been reading slash fic since the 1990's. I go thru phases with pairings, getting into one for a few months and reading dozens of stories before switching to another fandom. I periodically return to Harry/Draco, Eminem, bandom, Miguel /Ryan (oz), Vinnie/Sonny (wiseguy), etc.
The most hilarious thing is how these writers will mine from long ago cancelled shows, bands that have split and forgotten movies.
One of the most bizarre and hot pairings I've read was Eminem/Krychek (xfiles). Dont know where that writer came up with that pairing.
I've read a lot of Janeway/7 of 9 fanfic. Most of it is of the "Plot? What Plot?" variety, or it's obvious that the writer doesn't have a clue about lesbian sex. But there are some very good writers too, e.g., Gina Dartt and Beachbum.
if anyone is interested in HBO Oz ..here is a sexy Toby Beecher/Chris Keller fanfic written by an actual gay man.
I used to write slash, waaay back in the 90's.I know I'm old. My fandom was the X-files and my favorite pairing was Mulder/Krycek. I loved those boys. Back then you dared not admit that you were a guy writing and I had quite a girly pseudonym.Things were so different then. I had no computer and I had to use the one in the college library and I had about 60 minutes max to hack out a story. And sometimes the fanzines were still printed! I stopped writing years ago, but it's nice that slash has become so mainstream.
I've read some very, very, very good fanfiction (better quality, in fact, than some published m/m stories.)
But there's also dreadful, dreadful stuff. Poorly written, and don't get me started on the spelling and grammar!
I would never diss fanfiction, though, because there's some damn good stuff out there.
Supernatural fanfiction written in the years spanning 2007 to about early 2011 is really great stuff. The show is aging now and the stories are dropping in quality. You come across the odd gem, but most Spn stories written these days is now a waste of time.
I noticed the same with X-files fiction; the early years were the best. Stories written during, and set during the latter years of the X-files are substandard.
Some fanfiction authors are very talented. They're not all in the EL James category.
It's criminal that that woman is worth $10 million or whatever it is.
Bump for more shashy goodness.
I get all the slash I need from this Twitter feed. The excerpts are hilarious.
I've been reading it for years, since when 'zines' were hard copy, since the early days of Kirk/Spock. Now it can be found on line. My latest is Monkees for some odd reason.
Never cared for slash stuff. However there was one story at Nifty (which I loved when I was younger) that I truly found touching and hot, and extremely well-written. I didn't realize it was Starsky & Hutch fanfic until at some later point when I was trying to find more stories from the author. I didn't know that much about slash stuff at that point and was very surprised to find out the author was a woman.
For some reason I haven't jumped into the fanfic world even though I've read hundreds or probably thousands of Nifty stories.
Always liked Area 52 for Stargate slash.
I posted earlier in this thread, but yeah, still a hobby, and still a good source of free quality reading material if you know where to look for it and can filter through all the badly-written stuff. Honestly, bless the writers who put in all the time and effort to provide hours of reading entertainment to others at no cost.
Slash and fanfiction have definitely become more mainstream, to the point where "journalists" will actually bring it up in articles and directly with actors / writers, which I think is a bit gauche. Their usual take is "Isn't it so weird / creepy that these girls write X-rated stuff about your characters?!" It's usually awkward and uncomfortable, and if the actors / writers say something dismissive or mean there's a backlash (I think there was some incident with the "Teen Wolf" actors).
The best response by far, though, was given by Chris Pratt when someone brought up Marvel fanfiction with him - kudos to him for a funny response (and for not stepping on any fans' toes).