Since DL is NY obsessed, I thought I'd pose the question
I left and never went back, and I chose "now and then."
No. I regret the alternative.
[quote]Since DL is NY obsessed,
DL is not NY obsessed.
NY DLers are NY obsessed, the ones here who treat DL as if it was an NYC message board.
The idea that being gay means you need to move to New York or San Francisco is only for those 60 years and older.
I was always planning to move to NYC. I'm from Boston, but I also wanted to live in California. So I moved to San Diego years ago and never left. While SD is a very nice city, and I have many friends, and the quality is quite good here, I always regret not moving to NYC and eventually back to Boston.
I want to move to NY in 1985 live like Aidan Quinn in Desperatly Seeking Susan.
No, I moved to LA for a number of years when I was 18 and that is more my style.
Nope, I'm very happy in Portugal right now.
I grew up in NY but never lived there a an adult. I've lived all over, but for the past 20 years in SF. I love it here, but sometimes think I would have been happier in NY. All my closest friends have always been from the East Coast. I feel like I am always translating when I talk to people on the West Coast.
I work there frequently - once a week sometimes. I get to see first hand how annoying it is to live there. No thanks.
Um, no. I live there.
Regret what? Meningitis?
It's a nice place to visit, but I'd NEVER want to live there.
Yes and no. I love NYC, but I've never moved there because I know I wouldn't be able to afford a decent lifestyle. I don't want to spend every penny I have just to rent a shithole the size of a closet for the rest of my life. So I'll have to make due with just visiting from time to time.
New York is so overrated. Parts of it are still crap after Rudy's Fascist regime. The uptick in crime since stop and frisk ended is only the beginning of the end. We're going back to the 80s crime wise and there is nothing that can stop that.
The most exciting people are in New York. The most exciting things HAPPEN in New York. You can live cheaply in flyover country but look around you. There are nothing but second tier people. Schlubs. Fat midwestern boring cows. APOLOGISTS. You can yap all you want about your little hamlet of a flyover town and how inexpensive it is and how much you love the peace and quiet. And to each his own. But you know deep down that it is deadly dull. Most of the U.S. is comprised of places the best people LEAVE to go to the hubs of success (not just financial, but where the movers and shakers are, the best looking people are, the charismatic people are) like NYC, Chicago, Boston, Los Angeles, etc. There is no one who matters living in Des Moines, Iowa, folks.
[quote]New York is so overrated. Parts of it are still crap after Rudy's Fascist regime. The uptick in crime since stop and frisk ended is only the beginning of the end. We're going back to the 80s crime wise and there is nothing that can stop that.
I'm sure you referring to the increase in shootings and decrease in gun seizures.
Which kind of speaks to the need for gun control not racist police practices.
Silly R15. People who matter are everywhere. It's true that America's suburban design makes it lonely and quiet even where there is significant population. But I think that leads to a hysterical over-selling of New York, whose density is such a contrast, but which after all, is not at all special by international standards.
Anyway, as much of international import happens in Washington, LA, and SF these days.
I knew a number of artists who moved to NYC years ago. Every single one of them developed an attitude and at the same time lost their unique vision and creativity. They started churning out garbage and thinking it was the greatest thing in the world. New York is a joke and has been since the end of the 1950s.
You flyover idiots never get tired of the NYC bashing. Give it a rest, we never give you guys or wherever the hell you live a second thought.
R19, THANK YOU.
Too crowded. Too dirty. Too expensive. Shitty weather.
But why move now when The Lure is closed? Next!
I moved to Berlin instead and had the time of my life. An ex-New Yorker came to my apartment once and it blew his mind that I had 90 square meters all to myself (not in the best neighborhood, but it was gentrifying like crazy when I left) for under 500 Euros per month.
Wow, see what happens when you have a thread that doesn't praise New York City? R15 and r19 come around and froth at the mouth about how stupid the rest of America is for not living there.
R15, you seriously should work for the NYC tourism bureau. You really have a grasp on marketing New York City to make it sound so lovely.
I wish I could emigrate to Europe. How is that done?
no. I'm the nervous and timid type and would not be a positive addition to the city. I love New York but get a bit anxious when I'm there. But I get the same way when I'm in Chicago or LA. But I live in Palm Springs and like my pool, spa and room for a pony.
Funny, I don't feel that way when I'm in London or Paris.
I live here now. It's one of the most narcissistic and tension-filled cities I've ever lived in. Everyone here seems to be on edge. I can't wait to leave. I'm from LA and I'm sure people will laugh but LA is one of the most relaxed cities I've ever lived in and I can't wait to get back.
Where is the tension coming from? Is it 9-11 PTSD, is it all the class consciousness? What is it with NYers?
My dad was born and raised in New York City, so I've been going there throughout the years since I was a baby. I love NYC, I really do; however, I could never live there. There's no shame in admitting a city is too fast-paced and expensive.
[quote] You flyover idiots never get tired of the NYC bashing. Give it a rest, we never give you guys or wherever the hell you live a second thought.
That's just not true.
I've never met a group of people more committed to clearly identifying what is better about them then others.
My company transferred me to NYC in 1995. I was there until 2002. I found NYC to be filthy, crowded, and filled with self-absorbed, pretentious and rude people. In January of 2002 I turned in my resignation and packed my things. I could not get on that plane back to Florida quick enough.
I will never, by choice, step foot in that over-crowded cesspool again as long as I live. I love clean air and open spaces.
[quote]I will never, by choice, step foot in that over-crowded cesspool again as long as I live. I love clean air and open spaces.
looks like we're kindred spirits
Maybe a fleeting "what if" regret a couple times in my twenties.
I spent a lot of time there through college and into my early thirties. As appealing as the place was, I never moved there, never seriously considered it despite a couple of job offers. New York, more than London, more than most any place is a cruel lesson in never having enough. By the time I had the money to live there with enough "insulate, insulate, insulate" luxury, any desire to do so had passed. Then, too, the older I got, the more other places I saw, the more I disliked New Yorkers.
I lived in NY and left after 7 years. I used to regret leaving as my life was full of disappointment afterwards...
As I get older, I try not to regret too much as...what's the point?
[quote]Where is the tension coming from? Is it 9-11 PTSD, is it all the class consciousness? What is it with NYers?
It's financial stress. They're all running on a financial treadmill, trying to keep up with their ridic rent or mortgage payments.
Can you PLEASE be specific, OP, so we know how to respond to your question?
Are you talking about the New York in Texas or the New York in New York?
Honestly. Don't be so provincial.
I don't get the "flyover" comments. Most Americans live in or near a major city.
The flyover areas are depopulated. So to assume if someone isn't living in NYC they are somehow living in a podunk is strange. It also further perpetuates the stereotype that New Yorkers think NYC is the only vibrant place in the US-- and maybe the world.
Growing up in a boring suburb near a city of only 150,000 I always dreamed of living in a city, but I would rather live in a suburb close to a major city than city proper.
As far as NYC, I like that it is compact and walkable with lots of things to do-- but I think I would be annoyed and overwhelmed.
I regret nothing.
NY is its people. I'd never want to visit but living here is great but you have to be a certain kind of person. I have found new arrivals still love it like I did but now I find it too changed fir the worse to spend all my time here. So I am like only 6-8 months here. But that amount is still important to me.
I've been here for 27 years and I still like it, but it is too expensive and gentrified now. All the young people are boring, spoiled little brats who can't do anything interesting because they are overprotected by mommy and daddy.
It's definitely lost its edge and become too bland.
I've dreamed about NYC all my life.
I've saved $25,000 of my retirement fund just to spend one full year there after retiring. I can hardly wait.
I just know the first time I see the Statue of Liberty or Empire State Building or the Met I'll be a puddle of gay goo and tears.
[quote]I've saved $25,000 of my retirement fund just to spend one full year there after retiring. I can hardly wait.
Hate to break it to you but 25k isn't going to last a year in NYC....
Well, yes but I'm hoping that $2k a month social security covers the shortfall. However it lasts, I'm determined to experience a life long dream to live in NY.
Never. Not for ONE second, I fucking love it here, and have loved it since I arrived in 1981 after graduating high school.
I like New York, but honestly, if I had the choice I'd rather live in London, Berlin, or Paris than NYC (and I say this as an American).
I misread the question. Oy!
I thought it read "Did you ever regret moving TO New York?"
Everyone should live here, or regret it!
Question for the older folks on here: is NYC a depressing place to live once you get into your older years (like 60+)? I'm 31 now and I think it would be fun to live there in my 30's and 40's, but I'm kind of afraid if I stayed there into my older years that it would lonely and isolating with no family there. I'm also worried that it would be hard to live there financially in my older years.
I'd love to hear your takes.