Starbucks Asks People To Stop Carrying Guns In Their Stores, Outrage Ensues
Yesterday, Starbucks posted the following statement on their Facebook page:
“Today Howard Schultz is respectfully requesting that customers no longer bring weapons into Starbucks stores, even where local laws allow.”
They also included a link for people to read more about why they are asking people not to bring guns. The outrage from self-described Constitutionalists was immediate and as usual, about as intelligent as a scurry of rabid squirrels. Here’s just a few great comments from their page, spelling and grammar errors left intact:
“Any company that makes a public statement asking me to give up my constitutional rights in order to do business with them has drastically underestimated how much value I place on my rights.”
“Starbucks, it’s over. I will comply with your “request” by not entering your store. Thanks anyway, but I will pay my money to a company that understands the Constitution of the United States.”
“You claimed to be “neutral” when it comes to my 2nd amendment rights, implementing the “local laws” however now that you request that I cannot uphold my right in your stores, you have just lost a valuable customer. I’m sure your business will not suffer, because all of your “mommy’s” will come back. However I am very disappointed in your choice to go against your word of “staying neutral.” Thank you, and nice doing business with you.”
“If you do not support gun rights please get the hell out of our military bases!”
“GOOD BYE STAR BUCKS!!! I AM DONE! NO MORE MEETING UP WITH FRIENDS AT YOUR SHOPS…
EVEN THOUGH I DON’T CARRY A GUN… I ALWAYS FELT SAFER KNOWING SOME GOOD PATRIOT WOULD STEP UP IF MY LIFE OR ONE OF MY LOVED ONE’S LIFE WAS ON THE LINE!!! WON’T LET A LOVED ONE WORK THERE NOW EITHER! …. YOU LOSE…”
“To your CEOs suggestion…NO THANK YOU, I will continue to bring my firearm in to Starbucks whether open carry or concealed, so that libtards continue to be scared of armed citizens.”
“Well Starbucks Coffee just said they would not allow anyone to open or conceal carry a firearm in there stores anymore ,, SO SAY GOODBYE STARBUCKS !!! Your Coffee was over prices and not Very Good Anyway But my Rights are PRICELESS!!!!!”
“Stupid stuff today, Starbucks. Worst move you could have made. You piss off gun owners (many already pissed off that you made gay-ism a corporate value) and didn’t do enough to appease the few lefties that cried in their coffee. So you gain no support, and lose a lot of it.”
“I am really saddened by the news that Starbucks is not welcoming guests who carry firearms which is an infringement on 2nd Amendment rights. It also tells me that Starbucks management is willing to forfeit civil rights to protect their bottom line profits. So they really don’t care about people as much as they care about people’s money. I guess this means that local law enforcement personnel will have to go somewhere else for their beverages since they all carry firearms.”
“Just thought I would let you know as of this morning I bought my last coffee from Starbucks. If the 2nd ammendment means nothing to you and guns are not welcome in your stores then I will no longer support you. It was one thing when you denied the American Troops coffee but this goes too far!”
So what prompted this polite request (not a ban, although it’s obvious a bunch of people failed reading comprehension) by Starbucks? It seems that recently there was a “Starbucks Appreciation Day” event in which gun owners were carrying guns to local Starbucks (even in Newtown, CT) to show their support for the business since Starbucks allowed customers to openly carry weapons in states where it is legal.
“Starbucks is allowing us to lawfully carry firearms in their store. Recently, they have been the target of unjust attacks from certain groups that do not support our right to bear arms. We will thank starbucks for standing up for our right to bear arms by going there on Friday, August 9th.
We ask that if you choose to carry a firearm during this event that you follow all local, state, and national laws; and if you choose not to carry that you wear pro-gun rights apparel.”
In a nutshell, people from both sides of the gun debate were using Starbucks as a pawn in their fight – and Starbucks wanted to stay out of it. They simply and politely requested that their neutrality in this issue be respected and that people would stop bringing guns into their stores to make a political statement. They’re a privately owned business and 2nd Amendment rights do not apply on private property; but once again, it’s quite clear that too many gun nuts just don’t grasp what that amendment actually means or where it is applicable. I’m a supporter of the 2nd Amendment, but I don’t feel the need to strap on an AR-15 and take it down to the local coffee shop just to prove a point.
The internet is already clogged with articles from a bunch of news channels, many of them falsely claiming that this is a ban. Again, let me make this clear: Starbucks does not want their businesses being used to hold gun rallies, they want to sell coffee. They do not want a bunch of people standing around with guns in their store simply because they can, and that is their right as a business to say so. If these gun nuts are really that upset and actually take their business to local coffee shops, that’s a win-win for everyone.
This country is so violent and scary with all these freaks who want to pretend to be cowboys.
What made this gun culture? What contributed to the explosion of it in the last decade?
The gun culture in this country is scary and disgusting. You want to own a gun-- fine. Have it at home, on a hunting and shooting range. But in public, in restaurants--- this is so bizarre. How did this develop.
Also, gun ownership has always existed in this country, but I can't think until recently that people thought being armed 24/7 was normal. Is this culture being created via the conservative media.
Does it frighten you, those based in the US in areas that allow one to carry a weapon, to know that there are armed people around you? Is it a comfort?
People should never carry guns, simple but true
If every one of these gun-nut assholes were to just die tomorrow, the world would be a MUCH better, safer place.
r7, yeah just let the criminals and the gan members have guns!
In R9's world, police don't exist and outlaws walk the street shooting people randomly.
[quote]In [R9]'s world, police don't exist and outlaws walk the street shooting people randomly.
R10, you're free to move to Chicago if you think R9 isn't speaking the truth.
While I support our right to bear arms, I also support the fact that Starbucks is private property and the owners have an equal right to ban guns if they want.
I read that as "Starbucks Asks People To Stop Carrying Guns In Their Stores, Outrage Anuses"
Good for Starbucks. This "right to carry" bullshit has gone too far. I understand there are laws and rights for concealed/open carry, but it's become a fucking circus show.
15 years ago it would be: "This store doesn't want me to bring my gun into their establishment. I'm mad!"
Now, it's: "This store doesn't want me to bring my gun into their establishment. I'm mad! I'm going to post about it on Facebook, then contact the local news media, which will do a story on me because they have low standards and are having a slow news week. Then I'm going to start an online petition. Then I'm going to protest outside of the store. Then I'm going to talk to every city council member, and then...."
It's frightening, r5, although I don't live in a concealed-carry location. There is nothing comforting about living in a culture ruled by paranoid, militaristic gun nuts.
Barnes & Noble is also receiving complaints, since low-information types think B&N Cafés are Starbucks stores.
[quote]While I support our right to bear arms
A major gun incident is now defined as 12 or more people killed. Half of the major gun incidents in US history have occurred within the last six years.
R10, they do in some communities.
There is no "Second Amendment Right" to carry a gun on somebody else's private property. There isn't even a right to walk in the door, period. Because It's. Private. Property.
If these gun nuts love the Constitution so much, how about the right to determine what goes on at your own property?
No one, from the slowest, least practiced barista to the most annoyingly wired-up-over-chairs-and-aisles laptop-jockeying hipster has ever made me want to shoot them at Starbucks.
What do gun goons need guns for to buy a cup of coffee?
If anyone, it's those gun goons who deserve a good shooting. Or at least a good whipping.
I could solve the problem of gun violence in one minute: just give every citizen a gun.
I love how ammosexuals love to paint the people who don't think that they need to be strapped to go buy a cup of coffee as pussies.
Americans are still pretty wild-west and trigger happy. Quite like the tribesmen of Afghanistan. They also have to leave their guns before they enter a movie theater.
Black gangbangers shoot up a south Chicago park last night wounding 13. Who cares, it's black on black
Word of the year. Just excellent. "Ammosexuals." I love it.
I stole it r26. I also like gunpetters.
[quote]There is no "Second Amendment Right" to carry a gun on somebody else's private property. There isn't even a right to walk in the door, period. Because It's. Private. Property.
Well, at the risk of playing with words, if the property owner allows it, you do indeed have a right to carry a gun on private property.
R27, I'll never tell.
Blacks should be banned
R30 for President!!!
R32, for vice pres
[quote]Does it frighten you, those based in the US in areas that allow one to carry a weapon, to know that there are armed people around you? Is it a comfort?
Yes, it scares the shit out of me - mostly because these idiots don't give a fuck if the public establishment allows weapons or not - they still carry. I live in a concealed-carry state and I can tell you the nuts I know don't care what the "rules" are. They do as they please.
It's not a comfort. Half of those idiots don't know what the fuck they're doing and would kill more people out of stupidity than anything.
Frankly, round them all up (along with the fucking armed criminals), put them in a stadium and let them shoot each other to hell and back.
America is so fucking sick it's scarry
They irony is these gun nuts have no respect for the rights of others, in this case Starbucks.
We all have the right to choose if there are guns in our homes and our businesses.
R23, solid gold comment. I too love "ammosexuals" and look forward to using it elsewhere online.
What about the rights of customers to feel comfortable and free from intimidation and unease? These dudes who walk around with guns are just like the punks who peel out and squeal their tires in residential neighborhoods and play their hip hop at ear-splitting levels. It's all about intimidation and check thumping. Tiny dick syndrome of the first order.
[quote]Does it frighten you, those based in the US in areas that allow one to carry a weapon, to know that there are armed people around you?
It doesn't make me feel personally endangered, because I know these people carry guns to "defend" themselves against black people. I am not black.
[quote]Is it a comfort?
Hell no, it's nauseating.
[quote] “Starbucks, it’s over. I will comply with your “request” by not entering your store. Thanks anyway, but I will pay my money to a company that understands the Constitution of the United States.”
oh puh-leaze. Like these gun nut losers ever went to Starbucks
Yup, you'll notice most of the comments online are complain that Starbucks coffee is too strong. Pussies.
gun fetishists could all probably do well with a couple fewer cups of coffee.
Why, why does Starbucks hate America?
There are armed idiots around me and yes, it scares me. A gun could go off and hit someone I love at any time.
People who carry guns are usually damn, fucking, fools.
So write Starbucks a thank you note.
I just liked them on Facebook!
"While I support our right to bear arms, I also support the fact that Starbucks is private property and the owners have an equal right to ban guns if they want."
Of course Starbucks has a right to ban guns if they want.
But that's not what they did.
They merely request that people don't pack in their shops.
Even with that modest posture, the nuts are losing it.
[quote]What about the rights of customers to feel comfortable and free from intimidation and unease?
For people like you and I and, well most rational folks, its easy for us to see that point of view. But for the ammosexuals, they already live in a constant state of unease and intimidation. They need a gun because they spend every waking minute expecting some evil doer to leap out of no where and shot-up the place like on tv. They see no reason why you shouldn't feel scared. In fact, they probably get a thrill knowing that for once, they are the ones causing fear, not feeling it.
All 3 members of the New Black Panther Party should show up with guns and see how the rednecks like it.
r52, blacks mostly kill other blacks
Fuck those liberals.
Fuck them right up the ass with coffee enemas!
Gun nuts deserve to be killed - poison is my choice
r41, I actually anticipate blacks killing whites very soon!
r55, is deranged
R56 is deranged.
[quote]I actually anticipate blacks killing whites very soon!
Bringing on the race war known as Helter Skelter? Who knew Charlie Manson was a Datalounger.
Most of those gun nuts are low information voters, R15. That's why we can't get any decent legislation passed on the issue.
I guess when these assholes are shot, they will refuse to go to a hospital.
All the hospitals I know of ban guns on site.
Love it how fags are so opposed to guns. Good luck boys!
Between guns and Planned Parenthood --
Now I understand why only 12% of America's population are black.!
As a gun owner I am not in love with open carry. That said I carry concealed in Starbucks and the anti gun asshats do never know they are standing to me with my 9mm. As they go through the line to get an over priced cup of bitter coffee. I only go into Starbucks because my wife likes it. I carry in CVS and other establishments ccw. The law is that if they do not want me to carry into their stores they have to post it on the entry door in such a way as it can not be missed. This is never done and I carry in to these places. Screw you libtards. You don't know I have a gun and that is ten times better for me. Its there if I need it and libtards do not piss themselves.
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