Lhota actually has some decent managerial credentials. DeBlasio seems like a smart, caring guy with good ideas -- I just don't know how good he is at running things.
I have lived in some severely malfunctioning elsewheres and to me NY runs well, especially considering how big it is. I don't take this for granted but I think a lot of NYers do. I'm willing to give Lhota a look.
r9, thank you!
R10 = moron.
I expect De Blasio will win. The NYC voters, collectively speaking, seem to want a contrast to Bloomberg as mayor. De Blasio qualifies there, more than Lhota does. Similar to how Obama won the presidency in 2008 despite not seeming that qualified for it, by representing such a total change from Bush.
Why is no one talking about Lhota's lisp?
Did Bloomberg ever come out of the closet?
I lived through Dinkins. Not again, thanks. I'm voting for Lhota.
Real estate tax relief is tops in my book. Way too high for my co-op.
The Dinkins years were the best, R16. How silly!
Dear God. Lhota has the charisma of subway platform. I can't see him winning.
God, I saw Joe Lhota on tv this morning. What a bore! The guy is like human ambien.
[quote]Why is no one talking about Lhota's lisp?
[quote]Real estate tax relief is tops in my book. Way too high for my co-op.
Which candidate is best for that?
It's "de Blasio" NOT "De Blasio" NOT "DeBlasio".
I'm giving you the evil eye, r10, r13.
I think NYC would be much more interesting if some of the seediness returned. I wish I had been around during the "Midnight Cowboy" days. The city looked so vibrant back then. Times Square looks like a section of Disney's Epcot now.
Word, R24. It's too antiseptic and chain-store now.
I'm ready for it now
If deBlasio wins it will certainly revert back to it's criminal past.
[quote]I think NYC would be much more interesting if some of the seediness returned. I wish I had been around during the "Midnight Cowboy" days.
Oh, god, the resident "1980s queen" is back. Honey, go to a country where homosexuality is banned. You'll love it. You'll have to hide and fuck in dark alleyways, like the good old days.
Here's my thoughts - DB wins & NYC reverts to how it used to be before Giuliani cleaned it up.
The poor come back to Manhattan.
WS leaves. They are already leaving for lower prices areas like Utah. No one needs to be in NYC anymore. The city will return to it's dangerous 80's/70's self.
RE values plummet.
[quote] The city will return to it's dangerous 80's/70's self.
That sounds divine. I love the old 70s movies set in NYC.
Being in charge of the MTA is not a decent managerial skill, it's an utter failure and liability.
[quote]Lhota will win so the city can appeal that stop-and-frisk decision from a month ago.
Nobody but Bloomberg and few NY Post-reading troglodytes wants that decision appealed.
Full-blooded De B. vs. bloodless bureauc. Lhota.
US will rise in second half of decade.
[quote] Oh, god, the resident "1980s queen" is back
Oh god, the resident idiot queen is back, who thinks Midnight Cowboy was an 80s movie.
[quote] The poor come back to Manhattan.
The poor never left Manhattan. The middle class did. They were forced out.
But hey, if you think the poor left Manhattan under Giuliani and Bloomberg, be my guest and move into the Thomas Jefferson Houses or the Polo Ground Towers or the Alfred Smith Houses. There are scores of housing projects in Manhattan. Go live in one and tell me what a good job Giuliani and Bloomberg did in removing he poor from the city.
BTW, there are half a million people on waiting lists to get into these horrible projects.
[quote]It's "de Blasio" NOT "De Blasio" NOT "DeBlasio".
[quote]If deBlasio wins it will certainly revert back to it's criminal past
As opposed to all the white collar criminals of today?
I'd rather be mugged by someone who's hungry or even a drug addict than be stolen blind by Wall Street and the rest of the evil 1%. De Blasio all the way. Real NYC started to died the day Giuliani took over and Bloomberg finished the job. I'm old enough to remember Liberal John Lindsay and NYC was SO much better than.
For Future Reference: OP has spelled Bill's name the way he does, de Blasio. The first two letters are NOT capitalized. Grazie.
Oh yeah, NYC should TOTALLY slash their property taxes by binding referendum. Then we could go bankrupt like California!
What exactly has Lhota managed well,r10? The NYCTA is, for the most part,is a self run entity with no other competitor. I worked for the TA for many years and trust me-a lot of those well paid positions are unjustified, mostly occupied by nepotistic means. And rich people- like Paul McCartneys current wife, sit on the board! Wtf???! When was the last time- if any-that she rode a subway?
Who are all these people, I mean zombies, who have been bought by and into the PR machinery of corporations? OK if you are all millionaires and Bloomberg and the banksters have been good for you. Not admirable but OK - we understand you want to protect your zillions.
Business is run inefficiently and greed must be legislated. Think of the common good, of civic values, the commonweal. Stop mouthing how businesses and management are so wonderful. See where that has brought the country to.
De Blasio all the way.
For those of you who want NYC to return to the 1970s, you need to lay down your crack pipes. Seedy glamour is only in movies.
The reality is that it was a very dangerous time. Recently, we have seen hate crimes against several gay men including two who have died. We do not need to go backward with high crime levels but move forward with crime being stopped before it happens.
[quote]Oh god, the resident idiot queen is back, who thinks Midnight Cowboy was an 80s movie.
Oh, honey, you can do better than that.
[quote]Recently, we have seen hate crimes against several gay men including two who have died.
Yeah, under Bloomberg, who isn't a Democrat.
Calm down ladies. Violent crime has dropped dramatically in all major cities across the US in the past 20 years (except Detroit). Same in Western Europe. Has nothing to do with Guiliani/Kelly/Bloomberg. LA, under very liberal mayor Villaregosa= even bigger crime drop than NYC.
deBlasio is like Obama. Both community organizers and little experience in government. "Change" is their keyword. Beware!!
If de Blasio is anything like President Obama, NYC will be lucky to have him as mayor.
I'm just looking forward to a "former lesbian" as First Lady in NYC.
Lhota has absolutely no chance. None. DeBlasio is NYC's next mayor.
Might I point out that de Blasio is ahead in the polls by [bold]FORTY POINTS[/bold]?
So, yeah. Short of de Blasio having a Weineresque meltdown, Lhota's not happening.
I think when/if de Blasio wins he's going to disappoint many because reality is a lot more complicated than he seems to presenting it as.
This isn't to say Lhota's any good, but de Blasio is going to have to be very flexible and keep an open mind.
de Blasio will ruin the city. Hold on to your seats because we will be the next Detroit.
Do people who have to pay $15 to cross a bridge think Lhota is the bees knees?
r54 is a Goldman Sachs gofer
Personally, I'd welcome the return of a little crime and danger to the city. It might actually become an interesting place again, particularly if some of the trust-fund babies, Eurotrash, and pussyboys like r44/54 are scared away.
R57, if you're discussing who to vote for with some people who seem to be undecided I'd suggest you don't use as an argument in favour of de Blasio "if he gets elected, crime might go up a little and the city become dangerous again".
Who will deBlasio appoint as Police Commissioner?
He doesn't want Ray Kelly and Bill Bratton was Giuliani's guy. Before Bill we had Dinkins's chief, Lee Brown.
Gee thanks for the tip, r58. Very important point to keep in mind, what with this election being so close, and the huge number of undecided voters I know ....
de Blasio is a communist...raise taxes...redistribute wealth...relaxed view on policing...David Dinkins 2...Lhota will win when people realize that de Blasio is a whacko...I lived in NYC during the 80s...not pretty.
You're right about de Blasio's huge support, r60. So many people must be looking forward to the rise in crime and dangerous conditions that you're hoping a de Blasio win will usher in.
I WANT WEINER!!!
The NYC election will not be decided on DL. Having said that, who is idiotic enough to think that gay constituents will vote for Lhota or whatever his name is?
R59 Supposedly de Blasio likes Bratton and he's on his short list to become commissioner. A sign that Bill might be the most left wing mayor in NYC history BUT he doesn't want to return to the high crime 70s/80s. At least in a subtle way.
I find it funny that de Blasio's real name is William Wilhelm.I wonder how much he'll be like a Kaiser Wilhelm.....
[r61] tell us about your experience. Liar.
[quote] You're right about de Blasio's huge support, [R60].
Indeed, r62, I am. He's about 40 points ahead in the polls.
[quote] So many people must be looking forward to the rise in crime and dangerous conditions that you're hoping a de Blasio win will usher in.
I doubt that, but then, I never suggested people were supporting de Blasio for that reason. Further, while I personally would not mind a less safe city, I never said—and don't predict—that we're actually going to get that under de Blasio.
No one who has relied on the subway and lived in the boroughs is going to vote for Lhota.
Everyone who keeps linking "liberal mayors" to "high crime" should be ignored. This was debunked earlier in the thread—declining crime was a general phenomemenon of the last few decades and is not tied to mayoral politics anywhere; indeed, it started going down in NYC under Democrats and continued under Republicans.
I was born here r57.
Leisurely enjoying my rent stabilized 2 bedroom West Village apartment for which I pay $950 per month.
Yay!!! I'm going to be a volunteer for de Blasio, making phone calls from home. YES!
Fingers crossed that he will be the start of getting real Democrats back in office across the country, not bogus ones like Obama, Pelosi, Reid and most of the current Democrats.
Check out today's NY Times article on de Blasio...Sounds like he was a Che Guevara revolutionary in 1988...Just what NYC needs...Soft on Policing, Redistribute the Wealth, Raise Taxes...Moscow on the Hudson?
[quote] Then we could go bankrupt like California!
Perhaps you haven't heard but California has a surplus now. ANd hasn't filed for bankruptcy.
Nice try though, troll.
Thanks, R61/R72. Commie baiting for Lhota is a great way to swing DLers to de Blasio.
[quote]For those of you who want NYC to return to the 1970s, you need to lay down your crack pipes. Seedy glamour is only in movies.
I love when the trolls out themselves without realizing.
Trying to memorize lyrics to Worker's Internationale. Might come in handy under De Blasio reign:
Just we, the workers of the world-wide,
The mighty army of labor,
To own the planet have a true right -
But the parasites — never!
For too long we've endured exploitation,
Too long we've been the vulture's prey.
Farewell to days of condemnation!
The red dawn brings a bright new day!
Forward, brothers and sisters,
And the last fight let us face;
Unites the human race!
Forward, brothers and sisters,
And the last fight let us face;
Unites the human race!
r76 take it back to Freeper Land. Nobody here gives a shit about your psychotic right wing diatribes.
That chicken's ass has to be getting sore by now, R76.
Our next Mayor? Che Guevara?
Mr. de Blasio became an ardent supporter of the Nicaraguan revolutionaries. He helped raise funds for the Sandinistas in New York and subscribed to the party’s newspaper, Barricada, or Barricade.
R76: so apparently you don't think that chicken's ass is NEARLY sore enough.
De Blasio is ahead by forty points. Commie-baiting chicken-fucking is three steps beyond pointless.
Please stop. You're just embarrassing yourself.
Oh R72, don't worry about redistributing the wealth. I'm sure you hold onto your ill gotten gains so tightly no poor person could slip between it and you.
I know it's so much better when wealth gets redistributed from the middle class and the poor to the rich but sometimes fairness rears its ugly head and than awww, life just sucks for people like you, doesn't it.
41% of all taxes in NYC were paid by the 19,000 who made more than $1 million in 2011. Easy enough to buy a bungalow in Boca and change their legal residence to avoid deBlasio's 4% increase threat.
When he gets into office crime will skyrocket the exact same day. Watch. NYC is going to return to criminalapalooza.
I meet with Blasio's people Wednesday to begin volunteering for him. I'm doing phone calls in the evening. Who knows, maybe I'll be calling up someone here from DL. Can't wait!
Yes, I'm so sure criminals/potential criminals are paying attention to the election and determining how many iPhones they will still based on who wins the race.
You do realize that Lhota has a gay past in his background that he's tried to cover up unsuccessfully, right? No doubt it's him and his screws posting here.
Lhota does ping, r87. Still, I don't think the DeBlasio campaign would go there. He doesn't need to either. He is talking about substantive issues and it's hitting a nerve with New Yorkers. His Leftie background can only help him. New York IS a Tale of Two Cities. And when most of us are spending 1/2 our take home pay for rent he doesn't have to do too much convincing. Michael Bloomberg is the gift that keeps on giving for DeBlasio. Lhota is another Bloomberg. People have Nanny fatigue and want something new. And the bullshit that crime is going to rise dramatically? Bratton will be the Police Commish if DeBlasio is elected and he did just fine. New Yorkers like him, too.
de Blasio's wife is a self-proclaimed dyke.
R82, you aren't educated at all in the issue.
To declare Florida residency, you have to spent more than half the year there. And be able to prove it. I have a friend in that situation and he has to meticulously track and document his movements.
Having an NYC address and declaring Florida residency is a big reg flag for the IRS.
Actually, r90 it's a big red flag for 'the state of ny taxation department'. The IRS could give a rat's ass.
Believe me, the state of ny tax dept are ruthless assholes who set their own rules of proof of a person's whereabouts. They assess exorbitant penalties on top of unreasonable expectations of proof. What really ices the cake is the fact that many of the auditors can hardly speak English.
R90 is absolutely correct in that one needs to keep meticulous records, and my own experience is to force yourself to make itemized, traceable purchases in your outside NYC location, or you will literally get hosed by their extortion tactics.
According to a new poll by Quinnipac and reported by the AP, de Blasio leads Lhota by 71% to 21% among likely voters; another 2% are for the Independent and 5% are undecided.
Among white voters de Blasio leads 55% to 40%; among black voters 90% to 6%; and among Hispanics 79% to 10%.
The Daily News runs negative articles on DeBlasio just about every day. What a shit newspaper.
Ditto the Post.
Rag sheets aren't making a dent. I make calls for de Blasio campaign. 95% of those I've spoken with are for de Blasio.
De Blasio will win don't Forget Lhota
call PAPD mall cops!
It's so funny that the Lhota campaign is using the same voice over actor on their campaign ads that Direct TV does. "Don't let DeBlasio take us back to the bad old days, get Direct TV." What an out of touch elitist Lhota is. Anyway, DeBlasio is leading 76% to 24%. Lhota is gonna get his ass whupped but good. I hope Christine Quinn is taking a lesson. Start representing the interests of all New Yorkers and extricate those real estate moguls dicks from your played out hole. We need affordable housing not more luxury high rises that set aside ten apartments out of 180 for the "middle class". And believe me, they are still have the run of the plantation.
To all of the posters who long for the pre-Disney days when New York was gritty, crime-ridden, dirty and smelly, fear nor more. Those days are coming back with DiBlasio. It's been 20 years since a dyed-in-the-wool liberal has run this city, and we're about to go back to those days.
Dinkins, oops I mean de Blasio most likely.
Its easy when he's promising the poor and desperate free shit that they won't need to work for. This will definitely not end well.
[quote]t's been 20 years since a dyed-in-the-wool liberal has run this city
You mean right around the same time crime started to drop?
Facts: they have a liberal bias.
r98's post left out one thing:
"NEGROES ON THE LOOSE! EEEK!! NEGROES! NEGROES!"
Thank you all those who are posting against de Blasio to let us here on DL know we should be honored NY'ers in the top 1% post here. Now please take your rich racist asses and jump out your high rise windows before the horror of everyone getting a fair shot in NYC returns.
Damn, OP, thanks for alerting us to what a close one that election proved to be. For a while there, I almost thought Lhota might crack 25% of the vote.
Why does Blasio remind me of coats? Is there a coat designer by that name?
Bill Blasio designed coats for the Blasioton Coat Factory.