Don't forget to watch Hot in Cleveland on Wed.night for the MTM reunion
Mary, Valerie, and Cloris featured in the episode.
The name "Cloris" always creeps me out.
Poor Mary looks like hell.
And Betty White is going to hang herself.
The piece about it in TV Guide was fucking depressing. Mary Tyler Moore is so ill/infirm she was to be shot only above the waist and "moved" from one chair to another but surprised the audience by standing to accept her ovation. I didn't know she was that disabled. Sad.
Valerie is, well, terminal but not using the word 'dying'. There was a comment that she was the maternal one of the group and that when Cloris Leachman started 'acting up' (uh, at 87? WTF? I remember something insane about throwing food?) and upsetting Moore and ?Engel, Harper comforted them or calmed things down or something. Then it quoted the old director of the show as saying 'Cloris always was a challenge but worth it' (I'm paraphrasing).
I didn't care when I heard that the casts of "ALF" and "Home Improvement" loathed one another. I got over it that Mike Brady liked the child actors but hated the creator/writers and producers. But this implied that things weren't one big happy family on the MTM set, and that is distressing.
Understandable, but upsetting.
If I ever learn that Bob Newhart didn't love Suzanne Pleshette, I might cry.
I'll catch the rerun. I'm heading to bed early with a blinding headache.
Cloris looked great. It was nice to see the ladies together, maybe for the last time.Jesse Tyler Ferguson and George Hamilton were good too, but the MTM crew brought back fun memories.
Cloris had all the best lines and still has perfect timing. Mary looked horrible. Shockingly bad.
R4 The MTM set was calm, people got along.
Cloris may have slightly annoyed the fellow actors but they (mostly) liked her. From what I understand, it was usually the producers who would be over her antics - she always wanted to do, redo, redo over and over, or question everything (as Shelley Long did later).
r10, whatever stunts she pulled worked, because she stole every scene she was in.
[quote]If I ever learn that Bob Newhart didn't love Suzanne Pleshette, I might cry.
Off topic (slightly), but by all accounts they adored each other and socialized off the set with their spouses -- Suzanne and Ginny Newhart were very close.
"Georgette, you know I love you bit that is NOT an interesting story."
Okay, that was a Phyllis line from "Rhoda" but still...
I didn't see it but it doesn't sound like there was a fun homage to Phyllis throwing chocolate on Sue Ann's blouse. That would have been fun.
I didn't think it was possible to annoy Georgia Engel.
Don't be fooled by Georgia. She's a deep, dark, highly complicated individual.
I got a little teary watching it. MTM did not look well and with the news about Valerie Harper, it was kind of bittersweet. These ladies were pretty much the funny ladies of most of our childhoods, so it was great to see them together one more time.
Best ending was seeing the MTM cat in the window giving its infamous 'meow'.
[quote]The name "Cloris" always creeps me out.
It was really trendy when she was born. Phyllis, Doris, Ch(l)oris... all those old Greek women's names ending in "-is" were once the Brooklyns and Jaydens of their era.
Why does TVLand continue to show reruns of Raymond, etc., but never their own shows? Strange.
I have downloaded it and will watch...I am so glad they had the chance to do this.
Would be great to see a "Behind the Scenes" feature.
Besides being unable to move well, it's pretty clear Mary is almost totally BLIND at this point from the diabetes. Her eyes don't focus directly on who's speaking, and her pupils take up her entire iris, they are so dilated.
Mary was absent from this summer's "Broadway Barks" event, a charity she started with Bernadette Peters to help adopt shelter animals, and we were told it was because she had fallen and broken her shoulder and couldn't move well.
Well, when you're blind, you often fall and can't move well. It's all very sad.
Mary was much more physical (and could still see) just 2 years ago when she first guest starred on "Hot in Cleveland" as Betty's jail cellmate.
This time, Cloris had all the good lines and jokes and seemed to be in the best of shape - even Betty at 91 doesn't get around well anymore and sometimes spends whole episodes seated.
Cloris in Raising Hope >>> Betty in this piece of shit
it must be said
How is Valerie looking? Is she keeping the weight off?
I found it delightful and loved seeing them all together. Cloris has impeccable comic timing and Mary and Valerie had a moment together.
This episode should have been an entire hour instead of the two episode ending. I would have loved more time with them.
They did live audience but used a scrim so the audience could not see Mary being put in place.
I found it very touching.