- Rumor has it the Kinky Boots producers want to bring back Full Monty with Jerry Mitchell directing. He has always wanted to do it 'his way' and they are pushing to get Terrence M. to clean up some of the messes in the book.
- Bless you, OP.
- I always thought the FULL MONTY book was great - what are the messes?
- How is it Norm Lewis is straight?
- OP Why do you continue to ignore Andy Blankenbuehler in your opening.
Once and for all, who is his bf?
- in Santa fe right now....help me
- To answer a question from the previous thread - Zach Braff is playing the John Cusack role.
- RE: Marin Mazzie - why must we continually have this boring slag foisted on us? Helen Sinclair requires an ACTRESS and we don't need to see her tits.
- I think most people agree that "Chop Suey" is the worst Rodgers and Hammerstein song.
- How about "Western People Funny"? Although all of Pacific Overtures sounds like that.
- The Big Monty had a pretty good run whenever. Is Broadway ready for a revival, even with revisions and new Mitchel direction? Hmmm... $10 million minimum? Palace Theater?
- Nah, it's gotta be something from State Fair that get's the "worst R&H song" prize. What's the one that's sung to a pig?
- I resent that r12!
- And when will they announce the dimming of Broadway lights for Julie Harris? If ever anyone ever deserved the honor Ms. Harris certainly does.
- Sherie Rene Scott is misunderstood
- Of course, Sherie is misunderstood. She basically can't explain herself or her, er, art.
- Sherie for Helen Sinclair!
- Also from the previous thread: upstate NY guy (and others) with the 10-article limit on the Times: if you're using Chrome, and go in under "incognito" (the three lines at the upper right of the browser, you can read as many articles as you want.
- The critics are going to tear "Romeo and Juliet" to shreds.
Ditch the fucking motorcycles!!!!!
- OP-As long as they don't make another massive mistake and cast Randy Harrison in a role Bobby Steggart is perfect for.
- What will Leveaux change by Opening Night? The shower curtains?
- "Sweet Hog of Mine" - State Fair.
- Yup, that's the one.
- [quote]I always thought the FULL MONTY book was great - what are the messes?
THE FULL MONTY has a terrific book. If the KINKY BOOTS producers want to fix a deficient book, they should have someone come in and rewrite KINKY BOOTS.
- Silly goose!
Of course - ME for Helen Sinclair!
- who has commented or confirmed Colin Donnell's size?
- I apologize for calling Marin a boring slag. She is perfectly adequate in her fach; I am so tired of paying $ to see adequate performers in dreck.
- I saw a workshop years ago of Easter Parade with Tommy Tune, Sandy Duncan and I think Ann Jillian. It stunk to high heaven.
- All British directors should be banned from Broadway. Their take on musicals is especially lame and insulting and Boring!!!!! They usually take all the joy out of a show. No wonder the Brits love Rob Ashford.
- You can't remember if it was Ann Jillian or not, R28? IT'S A LIVING fans everywhere just cried.
- The "sweet hog of mine" song, aka MORE THAN JUST A FRIEND, is from the 60s remake of STATE FAIR only. Its words and music are by Richard Rodgers; it is not the work of Rodgers and Hammerstein.
You bitches really ARE slipping.
- John Tiffany is, I believe, a Scott. His production of The Glass Menagerie is lyrical and beautiful.
- curious to see Glass Menagerie. I have heard such conflicting things from intelligent people. Makes me more interested in it.
- As in comes from Scotland? Or as in Scott Caan!
- "The Full Monty" is a show I can see on repeat. "Kinky Boots" is a show I never want to see again.
- Where are the new generation of theatre composers? Why is there no talent? Why are they all writing navel-gazing tripe? Why, oh why, oh why, oh??
Is musical theatre dead? Where is the talent? Can we blame corporatization of culture?
- R25 post-- that was NOT me!
Karen Ziemba, TONY winning actress/dancer/singer/banjo player
- How's Rory's liver?
- Yes, The Full Monty has a strong book. But it's so low-rent and its score is pure cheeseball. Once was enough, thank you.
- If Jerry is gonna show full frontal, then maybe I would see it again.
- [quote]it's so low-rent
What the hell does that mean, your highness?
- Who should play Keno in the "Monty" reboot?
- I would pay to see Jerry Mitchell in THE FULL MONTY! I love younger men and to me he is very sexy!
- On what planet is Jerry Mitchell a "younger man?"
- tot he average DL poster
- Get a load of R8, still slut-shaming Marin Mazzie for Passion almost 20 years ago.
- R28, it was not Ann Jillian, it was Rhonda Burchmore.
- Good Dirt
- Isnt she the babe that Tommy Tune went in front of Equity Council and cried.
Said NO ONE else could play the Ann Miller role.
- Here's a lengthy interview with Rhonda Burchmore. She mentions Easter Parade and has some good stories about Mickey Rooney and Miss Ann Miller.
- Burchmore played the title role in The Drowsy Chaperone to Geoffrey Rush's Man in Chair.
- The book for Full Monty is not very funny and there are as many bad songs as good songs in it. It was the cast and Mitchell's best choreography to date that put it over.
Norm Lewis is not straight, don't get confused by his Cialis commercial.
- Tying two subjects together -- did Norm Lewis ever play "Horse" in TFM? Or is he too young?
- "The book for Full Monty is not very funny and there are as many bad songs as good songs in it. It was the cast and Mitchell's best choreography to date that put it over."
Have to disagree - I've seen audiences at regional productions laugh very hard and really enjoy it.
- If you're looking for the next hip hit that is not a very good play, go see Mr. Burns at PH. Sure, it has funny moments about the Simpsons, but there's no play there. It is AWFUL.
And why does fugly and lispy Mahar still gets work?
- I thought BUYER & CELLAR was pretty thin gruel, and I'm a huge Barbra fan.
Cute but unmemorable.
- Yes, R58, your word is gospel and so they've extended indefinitely.
- One is allowed to find popular things bad, r59.
- "Was Richard Haydn gay?"
I don't know, dahling. He never sucked my cock.
- "And when will they announce the dimming of Broadway lights for Julie Harris? If ever anyone ever deserved the honor Ms. Harris certainly does."
If you had been paying attention to recent deaths of Broadway notables and the timing of the subsequent dimming of the lights, you would have noticed that the dimming has usually not occurred within the first day or so after the person's death, but a few days after that -- presumably because it takes some time to coordinate these things, and probably even more so in this case because Miss Harris died on a weekend.
Are you implying that you fear the lights of Broadway may not be dimmed in tribute to Julie Harris?
- AN ORDINARY COUPLE has been known to cause stage 4 cancer.
- Exactly, r63. Hammerstein was dead less than a year after writing it. Larry Hagman thought that the daily exposure to "An Ordinary Couple" is what caused the tumor that killed his mother 30 years later.
- [quote]"Was Richard Haydn gay?
Everyone in the theatre is gay.
- R62. Dear Schoolmarm, aka Lady Patronize. I have been paying attention, you dumb twat.
- If you're tired of constant PrimeTime, having to pay to post, threads getting deleted for no reason, and whimsical banning, click below.
Our WM isn't a stupid nazi cow, and we might one day have again what DL used to be
- An Ordinary Couple is a lovely song (unless you think the score to Wicked and Avenue Q are the apex of theater music) R & H wrote a lot of lovely songs.
Jerry Herman writes lovely songs- Marianne, To Be Alone With You, Ribbons Down My Back, Kiss Her Now, I Won't Send Roses.
Does Sondheim write "lovely" ? Hmmm, he writes more "beautiful" - like Move On, Joanna, Not a Day Goes By - but lovely not so much.
- They really need to do a revival of the Antoinette Perry drama 'The Ladder'
It is SO long overdue for a revival.
- [quote]presumably because it takes some time to coordinate these things, and probably even more so in this case because Miss Harris died on a weekend.
- no you can only revive shows that have had major productions in the last 2-5 years
- I don't know, R62. I remember arriving in NYC the day that Merman died and the marquees went dark that night.
- Another Long Day's Journey, this one for Jessica Lang? Puh-leeze. That's four hours out of everyone's lives. I'll go only if she calls the maid Lana Banana. God knows what will happen when she gets set loose in Voodoo New Orleans on AHS this season.
- They should do a revival of Wicked. Y'know, get right out I front of the original production!
- "One is allowed to find popular things bad, [R59]."
But not one of the more clever original productions/performancs in recent years.
- "I don't know, [R62]. I remember arriving in NYC the day that Merman died and the marquees went dark that night."
Maybe back in the day they made it a point to dim the lights on the day of the person's death, but as I said, that hasn't been the case recently.
- R77-God bless those unions.
- [quote]But not one of the more clever original productions/performancs in recent years.
Good christ--no wonder NYC sucks so badly now. NO ART APPEALS TO EVERYONE. Insisting that other people approach it with a herd mentality is just the worst sort of suburban wannabe claptrap.
- Of course no "art" appeals to everyone, but a gay guy posting on this board is more likely to reject it because it is "popular" and appealing.
- "Hayes - the odds-makers have written off his new series."
Why? Because the central character is gay or becuase it's supposed to stink?
"As long as they don't make another massive mistake and cast Randy Harrison in a role Bobby Steggart is perfect for."
Someone here really has the knife out for Harrison (for no good reason), who I thought was very good in HARBOR. I generally find Steggert annoying as hell (still trying to forget THE MINISTER's WIFE).
- If you thought Randy Harrison was "very good" in HARBOR, I can understand why you don't like Bobby Steggert, who actually possesses acting talent.
- BTW, does Randy get naked in HARBOUR?
- An Ordinary Couple, much like The Best Night of My Life from Applause, sounds like they had half of a lyric and just improvised a shitty tune and didn't bother to go back and change it.
Lolita My Love revisal please!
- R83 The answer is no.
- The last THREE Amoralists plays I went to DID NOT have their usual full frontal male nudity.
What's the deal Amoralists?
- Datalounge is acting strangely today. I've posted several things that haven't shown up.
- [quote] Where are the new generation of theatre composers? Why is there no talent? Why are they all writing navel-gazing tripe? Why, oh why, oh why, oh??
Um hello! What are we chopped liver?
- SO it has come to this. Egads. Musical theater is dead, deader, deadest.
Creating Musical Theatre: Conversations with Broadway Directors and Choreographers
(Bloomsbury Methuen Drama - Paperback Book/Kindle Edition/eBook)
By Lyn Cramer. Featuring Rob Ashford, Andy Blankenbuehler, Jeff Calhoun, Warren Carlyle, Christopher Gattelli, Kathleen Marshall, Jerry Mitchell, Casey Nicholaw, Randy Skinner, Susan Stroman, Sergio Trujillo, Anthony Van Laast. Foreword by Kelli O'Hara. 320 pages.
- Could the "Artwork" on the marquee for Bridges Of Madison County be any more boring and uncreative? They could have at least drawn a bridge or 2 faces - or Something.
- Is it maybe time for Carol Channing to curtail the public appearances? She looks ancient and confused in the photos from Fire Island. Someone I know told me she's blind and can't see a thing.
- "Kelli looks - out of place in the BRIDGES ad. How long till Elena Shaddow takes over?"
I'll reserve judgement until I've seen O'Hara, but frankly she's about as much like an immigrant from Naples, Italy as Doris Day.
Shaddow was very good, but not quite transcendant enough for Broadway, at least when I saw her in Williamstown. Still, she could grow into the role and deliver. She certainly sang it very well. And Pasquale was excellent.
- "If you thought Randy Harrison was "very good" in HARBOR, I can understand why you don't like Bobby Steggert, who actually possesses acting talent."
Not sure where the Harrison hate comes from, but that sentence makes no sense. If Steggert is so much better, then you'd expect the Harrison fan to think Steggert was another Ian McKellan.
- Andy Blankenbuehler, who's his bf?
- [quote]"Hayes - the odds-makers have written off his new series
Link please, or is it just something "you know"?
- [quote] If Steggert is so much better, then you'd expect the Harrison fan to think Steggert was another Ian McKellan.
You're not considering that the poster wants to fuck Harrison, but perhaps not Steggert.
- What are the chorus boys doing?
- [quote]Um hello! What are we chopped liver?
We wish. Chopped liver actually has a flavor.
- R59 can go fuck off - If someone has an opinion of a show they should be allowed to post it. R59 is one of those people who rabidly follows theater threads yet never actually goes to the theater.
- August 28th at 7:45 PM - dimming the lightsfor Julie Harris
- Link, bitches.
- Only one minute??
- "Not sure where the Harrison hate comes from, but that sentence makes no sense. If Steggert is so much better, then you'd expect the Harrison fan to think Steggert was another Ian McKellan."
What I meant was that if the "Harrison fan" thinks Harrison was "very good" in HARBOR, said fan has no taste when it comes to acting ability -- hence his dislike of Bobby Steggert, who has a great deal of talent as an actor.
P.S. The Harrison "hate" comes from nowhere other than my experience of his performance in HARBOR. I've only seen a few clips of him in QUEER AS FOLK, so he was pretty much an unknown commodity to me before I saw him in this play.
- [quote] I've only seen a few clips of him in QUEER AS FOLK
One of them was the rimming scene, right?
- "Harrison...........who I thought was very good in HARBOR. "
So how was HARBOR? Is it worth seeing? I know I can get discount tickets for it, but I am more concerned about whether or not it is worth my time.
- How is the selection at TDF these days?
- Why does anyone want to revive The Full Monty? It was just an ok show the first time around, who would want to pay $150 to revisit that in today's climate? Just because trashy stripper choreography is all Jerry Mitchell is good at doesn't mean we need another production to showcase it.
- The reason they dimmed the lights immediately for Ethel Merman is THEY WERE ALL SCARED TO DEATH SHE'D GET MAD AND COME BACK.
Nobody's worried about having to propitiate Julie Harris. But just wait till Patti LuPone goes. The entire island of Manhattan will be blacked out for five days.
- AND I'M STILL WAITING FOR THE NAKED MICHAEL ARDEN PHOTOS!!!
- Re Sean Hayes' TV show, go find it yourself. It was either Entertainment Weekly or Yahoo Entertainment news. This guy was a. Vegas oddmaker who has a high "prediction" record for new TV shows. He ranked them all, but they only listed he top five (the only one I recall was the Once Upon a Time spin-off)
and the bottom five (Sean Saves the World was in the middle of if). His reasoning on Sean Saves the World didn't have anything to do with the gay angle.
- Those Michael Arden pictures do not exist. Stop obsessing about them because it just makes you sound like a loser.
- 76/80: I'm glad you loved it. I wanted to. I'm a huge Streisand fan. And the premise (And "My Passion For Design") is comedy gold. But I "rejected" it not because it is "popular and appealing", but because I expected a lot more to it. The show came across to me as a cute Streisand queen fantasy, no more, no less.
The best part was the James Brolin bit.
- I love the pig song in State Fair. My father was a farmer, and he thought it was the funniest thing.
- pig! pig! blood ! blood!
- You want pig songs? Check out the British musical "Betty Blue Eyes."
- Channing has had lousy eyesight for decades. That's why she once fell of the Dolly stage.
- [quote]You want pig songs? Check out the British musical "Betty Blue Eyes."
Cute show. Saw the production at Music Theatre of Wichita last month. It was the american premiere.
- How many of you boys saw me in my starring role in the Broadway company of DESTRY RIDES AGAIN?
Dolores (Doe-Doe) Gray
- [quote]Sean Hayes' TV show, go find it yourself. It was either Entertainment Weekly or Yahoo Entertainment news. This guy was a. Vegas oddmaker who has a high "prediction" record for new TV shows. He ranked them all, but they only listed he top five
I don't have to go find it myself, you're the one who claimed OddmakerS plural doomed the show, now it's just one guy. Ok then. We'll inform NBC to just scrap the whole thing before they start. Thanks!
- Will Cinderella make it past the New Year? Its capacity is already down to just 70%.
Maybe Vicky won't have to return.
Scram, impersonator. Or I'll sic Barbara on you.
- [quote] Those Michael Arden pictures do not exist.
Um, yes they do.
- So, who are the likely contenders for the title role in The Drowsy Chaperone movie? Might fellow Aussie Toni Collette finally get that elusive movie musical role opposite Geoffrey Rush?
-  It's Barbra you fake queen!!! Turn in your caftan and earrings immediately!!!!!!!!
- Jen Cody as Columbia in Hunter Foster directed Rocky Horror at Bucks County Playhouse with Will Swenson as Dr. Frank-N-Furter!
- [quote]Might fellow Aussie Toni Collette finally get that elusive movie musical role opposite Geoffrey Rush?
She's committed to a TV show.
- I saw Maksim Chmerkovskiy at The Helena on West 57th Street talking on the phone in the lobby. He's really big....and HOT. I love him so much.
- Chmerkovskiy is 6'2" and only 33 years old. I thought he was older.
- Maks has a magnificent ass. His face is almost as handsome.
- R129 Andy Blankenbuehler is much cuter.
Who is his bf btw?
- Does anyone think that Catherine O'Hara would consider replacing Andrea Martin in Pippin? She'd be a hoot!
- [quote] Jen Cody as Columbia in Hunter Foster directed Rocky Horror at Bucks County Playhouse with Will Swenson as Dr. Frank-N-Furter!
Should I be worried about all of the drag roles recently?
- [quote] She's committed to a TV show.
- I saw Betty Buckley in The Old Friends tonight. Perfect part for her: she's fat, drunk, yells a lot, and throws things.
- [quote]I saw Betty Buckley in The Old Friends tonight. Perfect part for her: she's fat, drunk, yells a lot, and throws things.
and that was just during intermission!!
- She's playing the role like she's in a Tennesse Williams play. A little more Horton Foote mannerisms and the role could be be juicy fun. Now, it's just campy excess.
- [quote]Now, it's just campy excess.
We know all about her campy excess.
- I guess no critic bothered to re-re-review Annie after they re-reviewed it for Jane Lynch.
This does not say much for their appreciation of Faith Prince, once a critics' darling.
- Have any other productions ever been reviewed three times in less than a year, r138? Unless that has happened before, I don't think the lack of a third review says anything about the critics' appreciation of Faith Prince.
- Re review Annie for a non star replacement in a supporting role??? Why bother. This pos is certain to close in December. Amazing it lasted this long.
- Nick Cearley as Brad, Lauren Molina as Janet - AKA The Skivvies. No imagination in that casting at all.
Nick has a good body but put a bag over his face, please...
- r138, what Lynch reviews did you see?
Producers probably don't want critics taking another shot at their ill conceived production
- I want Encores to do DRAT THE CAT. Rob McClure and Laura Benanti, and as their mothers Anita Gillette and Linda Lavin, respectively.
Hmmm. Is Benanti too old? Not right?? If so, who???
Anyway, a wonderfully silly show with a top notch score that needs to be heard again.
- [quote]I want Encores to do DRAT THE CAT. Rob McClure and Laura Benanti, and as their mothers Anita Gillette and Linda Lavin, respectively
So,do they have a website? Write them and give them the suggestion. You'll never get what you want if the powers that be don't know about it. Go for it.
- Drat the Cat sounds better on the bootleg CD from the original than it does on that awful studio cast recording.
Laura Benanti is WAY too old. If they were really going to do it - and I doubt they will - they'd be better off casting someone young and fresh
and surrounding her with "name" character people.
- Suttbot would be great in Drat!
And I can also see Laura O.
- there's a part for a midget?
- Sutton's even older than Benanti. TOO OLD!
Osnes is more in the age range, but she's too uninteresting.
- All I want Linda Lavin to do is retire and never show her ugly untalented self again. She's also a real live rude bitch.
- r149 = Polly Holliday
- [R141] put a bag on Molina's face too. Butt ugly, horrible voice.
As for these Skivvies, they give me the skeevies. Why would gay theater queens who go see these nobodies want to see a chick naked? especially one as ugly as her.
-  can kiss mah grits
- Lindsey Mendez is a hippo
- the proof Lindsey Mendez is a hippo
- "Anyway, a wonderfully silly show with a top notch score that needs to be heard again."
It was, produced two years ago by Opening Doors at the Duplex. And considering that 10 people shared a postage stamp-sized space with a grand piano, it was very cleverly staged and performed.
- Guess who auditioned for Barbra Streisand and Stephen Sondheim?
Hint: There was lots of Applause.
- Part of me is hoping Lauren Bacall auditioned for Miss Mazeppa, R156.
- Lauren Bacall almost won an Oscar by being directed by Babs.
- Will Bacall play Louise?
- It's not Lauren Bacall.
- Penny Fuller? Len Cariou?
- Well, it can't be Bonnie Franklin from the grave. How about Penny Fuller?
- I'm pretty, Mama!
- Christine Ebersole?
- Erin Davey?
- Applause = Gaga?????
- It's that Ebersole woman. She played Margo Channing in a really bad Encores production of APPLAUSE
- That's what I was thinking, too, R166.
- This is old news. It was reported months ago that Streisand wanted Gaga for Louise. Bad move I think. It's way better than Lea Michele for sure, but people are over Gaga and it might hurt Streisand. I would cast an unknown. A surprise. We already know Gaga can do sex. Her strip won't be shocking. In fact compared to her career, let me entertain you, will seem lame to the monsters.
- Yes, but the monsters aren't the audience for Gypsy. But putting Gaga in it would get them to shell out the $$ to see it.
- I was no great beauty, but I sure didn't look like that dog!
- [quote] Is it maybe time for Carol Channing to curtail the public appearances? She looks ancient and confused in the photos from Fire Island. Someone I know told me she's blind and can't see a thing.
She's blind AND can't see a thing? Oh dear.
And r111- the Michael Arden pics do exist. I've seen them.
- and Barbra would have been 43 when she birthed GAGA so it is biologically possible!!!
- Streisand has been taking meetings with CGI pros to discuss the possible ways to "de-age" her for Gypsy.
I'm not sure CGI has reached the stage where such a feat can be accomplished.
- R172, please describe the Michael Arden pics for us. Is he performing fellatio or ... anything else?
- Barbra really only looks about 57 or so. I hate her!!!
- Audra McDonald IS Gypsy.
- Does Babs have a director in mind? (other than herself of course)
- Barbara and Gaga both have OCD. This could be epic! Like Davis/Crawford epic!!
- Lena Dunham for Louise! Then they can save money because they won't need a cow costume.
- Barbra's father to be played by=ummm....ummmm...ummmm hello SAG could you send over a list of all actor's over 90 please?
- Mandy Patinkin will be Herbie.
Laura Benanti will be Louise.
Barbara Sharma will be Dainty June.
Eli Wallach will cameo as Rose's father.
Elaine Etritch will play Miss Cratchit.
In a casting coup, Patti LuPone, Bernadette Peters and Tyne Daly will play the three strippers.
- [quote] In a casting coup, Patti LuPone, Bernadette Peters and Tyne Daly will play the three strippers.
- I love Barbara Sharma!!!
- [quote] It's that Ebersole woman.
Queen of overratedness!
- Speaking of McDonald and her ilk, has Rose ever been played by a soprano?
- "SAG could you send over a list of all actor's over 90 please?"
"We give up." -- signed, The Grammar Police.
P.S. Even if it's true that Barbra only looks about 57, which is debatable, that's still too old for a woman whose children are pre-teenagers at the start of the story.
- Gaga would actually be an inspired choice. She dances well enough, and she's got a good voice. I don't know if she can act, but, considering that her whole persona is put on, I suspect she can.
Does Babs really need to play Mama Rose?!? It just feels so wrong. She's too old. Too self-contained. Too, I don't know, Jewish?!? I never got a Jewish vibe from any other Mama Rose, and it might shift the dynamics of the relationship a little.
- GaGa's not pretty enough to play Louise. There has to be a light under the bushel in order to actually hide it. She totally lacks the required vulnerability as well.
- The "vulnerable" Louise of Gypsy is nothing like the real Gypsy Rose Lee, even before she became Gypsy.
- I think Katy Perry would make a better Louise, and let Gaga play Dainty June - onstage sweet, but offstage a toilet mouth, the way Arthur Laurents directed it in the LuPone revival.
- Isn't Dainty June supposed to be pretty, r191?
- Let's cast the next revival of Follies. Koch Theater, NYC, 2015.
- Was June Havoc pretty? Maybe from a distance - a LOOOOOONG distance.
- Jesse Mueller for Drat! The Cat!
- Chris Sieber is filling in for the (MUCH older) Terrence Mann while Terrence is away. Those hot chorus boys better keep their dressing room door shut!
Who's taking over when Andrea Martin leaves in September? I hear the Weissler told Tovah she wasn't good enough in the role...
- Why doesn't Streisand campaign to do Follies instead of Gypsy? I think she could pull off Phyllis. I know many will disagree, but she has that regal thing going and I can hear her "Could I Leave You" and "Lucy and Jessie" easily. She could be glamorous and sexy like she thinks she is.
It's never been done on film and she could own the role. She'll never own Rose, never.
Besides think of the other stars that would come on board that still have the right "old Hollywood" connections. It could be a great film.
Ben - Warren Beatty
Sally - Sally Field or Bernadette Peters
Buddy - Steve Martin
Carlotta - Liza
Stella - MacLaine
Hattie - Lansbury
Heidi - Andrews
Whitmans - Chita and Dick Van Dyke
I'd even be okay with that beast Lea Michele playing her younger self.
If the main 4 seem too old, set it in '79. New York was still a shit hole and theaters were certainly still coming down.
This is the one musical film that needs to get done. If they wait any longer we'll get Chenowith and Kidman or some other nightmare cast with no Hollywood or Broadway pedigrees. Takes the realism out of the piece.
Also didn't she learn anything about the danger of age inappropriate roles? Hello Dolly ring a bell Babs?
- Jessie Mueller needs to stick to period pieces where her enormous ass and thighs can be hidden under long skirts.
Lets hope the designers of the Carole King show keep her in granny dresses and avoid blue jeans.
- If Denzel Washington can play Walter Lee Younger, I can play Rose!
- "Why doesn't Streisand campaign to do Follies instead of Gypsy? I think she could pull off Phyllis."
Oh, fer cryin' out loud! FOLLIES doesn't make any sense if the four main characters look like they're any older than 50 at most. Maybe Streisand could play Hattie ("Broadway Baby"), but that's about it.
- R197 God, that casting made me throw up a little in my mouth.
- I know the FOLLIES queens will hate this, but...
I love the score. I love some of the performances, in the original and various revivals. And I have most of the recordings.
But it will never be a movie. You could not possibly explain to contemporary movie audiences who these people are, or the theatrical tradition they were part of. Unless the movie was 6 hours long.
And no one would see it anyway.
- The movie should have been done in the 70's and that was the plan.. Alice Faye, Ruby Keeler, Jane Powell, Ann Miller were mentioned for some of the roles.. and the setting was going to be a movie studio that was being sold and torn down, not a theatre.
Solange played by Luise Rainer
- I knew I could swing it from Gypsy to Follies and the Follies girls would wake up!!!!
- R196. Poor Fran doesn't even know who Tovah is let alone whether she's any good. She still thoughtit was Andrea the night she went.
- well, the shows been running 6 months already so time to bring in some Weissler star power--JILL ZARIN for Berthe (and of course only sign her for 5 weeks)
- Is Terry vacationing without Charlotte? Or will the u/s's share Charlotte's role? How about having Christina Applegate fill in for Charlotte for a change?
- Whatever happened to Belle Callaway? She was an amazing Roxie but disappeared after she left Chicago a few years ago.
- Streisand tried to get Gypsy made in the 1980s with Madonna as Louise. Madonna wanted to do it, but Jules Styne was pissed off at Barbra over something and refused to give his permission.
Sondheim, BTW, is the one who insisted that Gaga audition for the role. He favors actors, rather than singers, for the screen versions of his musicals. You'd think he'd learned by now that actors, with limited singing ability, rarely do well in musicals. Sondheim has turned into quite the bitter bitch lately.
- R209 Lately?
- God, what could Barbra possibly have done that would have pissed Jule Styne off so much that he decided his grudge was worth more than the big money he would have taken in from a Streisand-Madonna feature film GYPSY in the '80s?
It seems like there would barely even be any reason for their lives to be overlapping at that point, except maybe for THE BROADWAY ALBUM - did he think she owed it to him to include some of his songs on it or something?
- Styne had a rep as one of the nicer, more "take as it comes" theatre writers. He must have really hated Madge.
- [quote] You could not possibly explain to contemporary movie audiences who these people are, or the theatrical tradition they were part of.
Eh... Beautiful Girls and Waiting For The Girls do just that.
- If Follies was made in the 70s as planned, it would have had Shirley MacLaine as Sally opposite Elizabeth Taylor as Phyllis. Sally's songs would have been butchered.
It's a shame they didn't do a "Liza With A Z"-style filming of the original production, complete with grainy film stock.
- [quote]It's never been done on film and she could own the role.
Bitch, please. Been there, owned that.
- [R201] After thinking about it you are right, my Follies casting ideas are a bit gross. I concede.
[R202} Also concede to you, it's better off not being made. It's too complex and needs to be seen on a stage in real time. Perhaps it is even too of it's time to be done on stage anymore. The recent revival definitely missed something, though it came closer to being great than other productions I've seen.
So what's a mega star in her 70's to do? Get some pals to write an iconic role for her?
She should probably retire...
- [quote]So what's a mega star in her 70's to do?
Retire for good and stop bothering us with ludicrous ideas for starring roles for her.
Or, if she really MUST still be in the spotlight, take a job on a sitcom as someone's funny grandmother.
- I think "Road Trip" proved that the audience no longer has an appetite for Ms. Streisand's antics.
- She should do 70, Girls, 70!
- R217. Oh yeah. You mean like Ellen Barkin? And look what happened to her. She got fired.
- Did anyone see Tovah in PIPPIN? I would much prefer to see Linda Lavin.
- r216, the problem with Follies is that it requires a tremendous budget for set/costume design and orchestra. Tatty sets and Pepto-Bismo-pink, bisected hula hoops do not this show make. Unless the Loveland sequence astonishes with its excess, the show's metaphor of the disillusionment of the American Dream fails to register. The audience needs to know what it had in order to appreciate what's been lost.
- I can't imagine it without Andrea Martin.
- Is Martin unhappy in the show? Why leave such a big hit?
- [quote] the problem with Follies is that it requires a tremendous budget for set/costume design and orchestra.
If a show is good it could play in a black box theater with no sets or costumes.
- That is academic nonsense, r225. Shows are conceived with certain scenic expectations in mind, in addition to their dramaturgical strengths. Would you tolerate a Wagner's Ring Cycle without a vision of Valhalla or the Rainbow Bridge? Or Carousel without a carousel? I didn't think so. In the best of productions, design and meaning are inextricably linked.
- Martina's leaving be ause she got a TV series that films in Toronto. That's why she was off for a month, shooting the pilot.
- Loveland was cleverly done in the last revival. They came up with something simple and cheap that looked lush, as opposed to the 2001 revival.
Of course, the horrors of Eric Schaeffer were still there, but they did do a decent Loveland.
- Andrea's pretty fit. And she likes to work. But she's 66. The TV job is probably just less exhausting than 8 shows a week.
- PIPPIN was on TKTS last night at 40% off - I was really surprised, the theater is not that big and it was supposed to be THE hot ticket. WTF happened?
- [quote] I never got a Jewish vibe from any other Mama Rose
- probably the end of August lull r230
- Motown and Kinky Boots were not on there R232 - it was previously up a month ago at 20% off. It should not be hitting TKTS at all.
- We never had August slumps in my day. If you were a hit, you were a HIT, and forget that "40%" crap.
- I can't believe First Date is still running. How?
The Arden photos are of him just having ejaculated on himself.
There is no SAG anymore. It's called SAG-AFTRA now.
And the Streisand-Rogen movie, which I enjoyed, was called "The Guilt Trip.". Not "Road Trip.
- ...and soon, something great will hit Broadway once again.
- Not everyone knows PIPPIN, so the name recognition isn't huge. And it has no stars. Of course, neither do Kinky Boots or Matilda . . . so one never knows, do one?
- We know, r237, Christopher Sieber is filling in for Terrence Mann while he's on vacation, and it's semi-skinny Chris and not semi-obese Chris.
- [quote]Martina's leaving beause she got a TV series that films in Toronto. That's why she was off for a month, shooting the pilot.
Gee, how prestigious. Going from a Tony Award winning Broadway show to a sitcom in Toronto. She must need the money.
[quote]] Christopher Sieber is filling in for Terrence Mann while he's on vacation, and it's semi-skinny Chris and not semi-obese Chris.
So who's subbing for his wife or is he going on vacation alone?
- r228: I thought "Loveland" looked like a giant hot-pink vagina. Which may have been the intention.
- and r241 that proves just how familiar you are with the appearance of vaginas
- LOL R234 I love you!
- on Barry's list to replace Andrea Martin: Snooki, Lindsay Lohan, Kris Jenner, the Cronut, Edward Snowden, Miley...
- What about Christie Brinkley?
- On Fran's list: Julie Harris, Regina Resnik, Bea Arthur, Rue, Estelle, Betty....Oh she is?????
- I kinda get a kick out of how Christie Brinkley has given people the impression she's a theAt-ah star when, actually, she can't sing, can't dance, was notorious for calling for line in Chicago....but, everyone agrees, she's really nice.
- "Loveland was cleverly done in the last revival. They came up with something simple and cheap that looked lush, as opposed to the 2001 revival.
"Of course, the horrors of Eric Schaeffer were still there."
Right on both counts ;-)
- Bebe Neuwirth recorded Lucy & Jessie for her new album. I bet she was fuming that Schaeffer was heading that major revival.
- Terrence Mann's understudies in Pippin are too young. So in Andrea Martin's. It's better to bring someone age appropriate in if the performer is going to be out for a while rather than put age makeup on a standby.
- Perfect casting - Chris Seiber now only plays kings, princes, lords, and knights.
Triumph of Love, Into the Woods, Spamalot, Shrek, etc.
- Is Seiber still... a little hefty? I think the only 6-pack he'll ever see again is Coors Light.
He's got a big talent, anyway.
- could they seriously have hired Tovah to play 12 performances-without guaranteeing her the replacement?
- Seiber went to some kind of fitness camp and dropped some weight. But he'll never be skinny - and he shouldn't. He's got a big frame (!) and looks better with some meat on it. Or in it. Either way.
The King is a good role for him. And, let's face it, it's either that or Billy Flynn in Chicago for the 2000th time.
- oh shut the fck about about Follies already
- r255 feels no production will ever equal the original. Thank you for your input r255
Chris Sieber for Phyllis!
- That "set" for Loveland in the last Follies revival was nothing more than a screen projection of roses.
That's an artless solution. Though it probably cost the production about $149.
- It looked pretty good.
And it doesn't say much for Follies if it lives or dies based on the Loveland set.
The Pepto Bismol one for the Bumping Blythe Danner revival was atrocious, though.
- No, R257, it was NOT a screen projection. You obviously don't know what the hell you're talking about.
P.S. I'm glad at least some people here know how to spell Chris Sieber's last name correctly.
- Well r259, it looked like nothing more than a screen projection so what difference does it make?
- Let's end the Follies shit now with one last word: That last production SUCKED BIG TIME! Everyone in it sucked!
I won a Tony!
- OK. Time to put the Follies loonies back in Shady Pines. They've done enough cackling for today. For supper: mashed potatoes. "No throwing, please, girls."
- Not so, r261. Danny Burstein was terrific, and Jan Maxwell had a couple of good moments.
Anditwasway better than the 2001 revival,, which was like a giant pink turd that Matthew Warchus had laid upon the Belasco stage.
- Please don't poke the Sondheimites. They're nutz.
- So who's replacing Andrea Martin? It ain't Tovah. Lavin's in LA doing the Sean Hayes sitcom. And Jayne Howdyy'all is too fat for the high wire act.
It needs to be a Broadway name of a certain age...
Can it be a black woman? Where's Lillias White these days? Or would Patina have a shitfit if another black woman stole her thunder?
- And I've tasted 'em
- Betty White, of course.
- They already made a film of Follies. It's called The Turning Point! Mostly.
- No, it'sh calledsh That'sh Enshertainmentsh!
- Leslie Uggams for Berthe in PIPPIN!
- No, you did NOT win, Jayne at R262. Nomination only.
- Jessica Walter IS Berthe!
- Karen Morrow should be Berthe!
- [quote] Can it be a black woman? Where's Lillias White these days?
What about Terri White?
- Honey, the only way it's not going to be Tovah is because she decided after the fill in that she didn't want to do it. Obviously it's tough to do with Martin running back to Canada as soon as she could.
- WHET Preshy Marker?
- Dear God but the Romeo and Juliet with Condola Rashad and Orlando Bloom is dreadful.
The set, with the balcony yet another one of those metal scaffolds belonging at a construction site.
Thee mugging of Jayne Houdyshell - who bizarrely comes walking in with a bicycle when she CLEARLY has not been on a bike in decades.
The truly passionless performance of Orlando Bloom.
Condola is much better and she had her moments, but never seemed vulnerable enough for Juliet.
The worst is the incoherence of the American actors mumbling Shakespeare's flowery dialogue.
- Orlando Bloom may be the most talentless Brit actor at his level of fame.
- Thank God you said "Brit"
- Is Liam much worse than Chris?
- Someone whose birthday's tomorrow was in talks to play Berthe in the tour.
Amen. Those producers should keep the hands off the FULL MONTY book and turn their attention to the relative travesty that is Act Two of KINKY BOOTS. The show succeeds thanks to the goodwill from the first half and despite some shamefully bad writing detours in the second.
THE FULL MONTY, on the other hand, is pretty damn tight, and a far better show. Had I been a Tony voter that year, I would have easily given my vote to that show instead of THE PRODUCERS, which, heretical it may be to say, I found vastly overrated.
I love you.
I weep with you.
Anyone else see MR. BURNS? OLD FRIENDS?
- 'American actors mumbling Shakespeare' Oh darling, a truer thing has never been said, in all these Theatre Threads in All These Years! Their rhythms are all wrong, their emphasis on the wrong words or phrases, their fear of enunciating in case they are accused of not being "real" enough, their inability to let Shakespeare's words do the work for them.
- Please God, not Lillias White or Terri White!!
- I'd like to see a Follies in the style of Ken Russell.
- Seiber did La Cage
- I'd like to see Kurt Russell in Follies
- Keri Russell as Hattie!
- Russell Crowe as Solange!
- Russell Stover at intermission!
- Bill Russell on piano!
- Can I just move over to Andrea's part and ditch the orphans? PLEASE???
- [quote]Bebe Neuwirth recorded Lucy & Jessie for her new album
Considering the shape her voice is in, it'll be more like "Lucy and Messy."
- Craig Russell as Liza as Judy as Mae as Carlotta!
- Is Mae Barnes still alive?
- Anna Russell as Heidi!
- Preshy Marker replaced Karen Black as Philia in the out of town tryouts of Forum.
Was Preshy short for Precious?
- THE Karen Black, R299?
- Dear "Boris,"
The "Loveland" drop in the most recent FOLLIES revival only "looked like a screen projection" if you're almost blind, in which case you shouldn't be making comments on such things.
- "Those producers should keep the hands off the FULL MONTY book and turn their attention to the relative travesty that is Act Two of KINKY BOOTS. The show succeeds thanks to the goodwill from the first half and despite some shamefully bad writing detours in the second."
- [quote]"Those producers should keep the hands off the FULL MONTY book and turn their attention to the relative travesty that is Act Two of KINKY BOOTS. The show succeeds thanks to the goodwill from the first half and despite some shamefully bad writing detours in the second."
- Saw Patti in PTown tonight. She was brilliant. Did the best version of "Trouble" from Music Man I've ever seen/heard. At one point she said "The British shouldn't write musicals and Americans shouldn't do Shakespeare." Huge applause on that one.
- Enough with FOLLIES. Enough.
- Yes, R300 - THE Karen Black.
She got fired during the tryout because the star, Zero Mostel, didn't think she was pretty enough to be the ingenue - he objected to her "cockeyes".
She got her revenge in 1974 at the height of her fame, when a film was made of Ionesco's RHINOCEROUS, which Mostel had triumphed in on Broadway. Mostel was never a movie star (even after the original PRODUCERS) so in order to get the film made, the director brought in two big movie names of the day: Mostel's old co-star Gene Wilder and.... Karen Black! Both of whom treated Zero like shit (Wilder also didn't like him) and when the movie tanked, it was all blamed on Zero, who never worked in Hollywood again.
- [quote]it was all blamed on Zero, who never worked in Hollywood again.
Except for the Sven movies he made after Rhinoceros, including "The Front."
- I love those Sven movies!
I never miss a Liv Ullman musical.
- Rosie O'Donnell IS Berthe.
- They made a movie about my cousin?
- Another vote for the splendiferous Pamela Myers as Berthe. And yes, I know they'll cast a 'name' to keep the lovely Music Box full.
If they need someone really, really old, how 'bout Madonna? She was wonderful in 'Speed the Plow'.
- R282. Hmm. Today is Carolee's birthday. But is she touring or will she be Andrea/Tovah's replacement?
- So Carolee is going to go from playing a seventeen year old girl in SCANDALOUS to a granny in PIPPIN? Talk about a kick to the ego.
- [quote] "The British shouldn't write musicals and Americans shouldn't do Shakespeare."
Patti's an asshole when she gets on her high horse about the arts. Sorry. The Arts. She did some Shakespeare, or is this one of those times that it doesn't count because she's 'Italian'?
It's clearly one of her digs at ALW - British-written musicals are so awful that Patti had to be tazed and held at gunpoint while performing in Oliver.
- Thank you, r268! Betty White was born to play Berthe -- I'm still holding out for the movie, which is the only chance we've got left ...
- Betty White is too busy rehearsing to play Miss Electra in Streisand's Gypsy.
- "Helen Sinclair! Who will grab the coveted role? Patti's out - too old, or just not right? Mazzie? Isn't she too old, too? Can anyone meet our expectations?"
- Mr. Burns is a piece of shit that the critics will eat up with a side of The Flick.
- Shirley Henderson is wonderful. The underrated Miss Pettigrew Lives for a Day could make a fun musical.
Any buzz on Fun Home?
- I can't imagine having Tovah in for just 12 shows. Is she replacing? Or did she hate it?
- Patti should be the last one to criticize. I sometimes love her- she does find the comedy in most things but her accent in WOTV was from any country other than Spain.
Chita Rivera and her British accent in Drood.
- The next 4 weeks of Broadway grosses will be horrendous. Big Fish=big flop. Houdini to take that theater.
A little birdie
- Speaking of Karen Black, why wasn't Come back to the five and dime nominated for any Tonys? Such a stellar cast, I can't imagine the show was that bad, given that the movie is almost an exact replica of it. Was the play not well received? I know it had a somewhat short run.
Dennis' monologue at the end alone should have secured her one.
- r242: Hmmm....Not very. Like most of the audiences at FOLLIES.
- R323 -
Linking to Frank Rich's review...the words "dreary amateur night" appear quite early...
- Honey, Tovah doesnt sell one ticket
- Does anyone think Irene Ryan sold many tickets in the original Pippin? Even Fran was just a small girl then. It's the part that got small...
- Would the Follies queens PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP AND GET THEIR OWN THREAD IF THEY WANT TO ENDLESSLY CARP ABOUT A SHOW THAT HAS FLOPPED 3 CONSECUTIVE TIMES ON BROADWAY???
Jesus CHRIST. You're all like the Shady Pines version of BWW posters.
- R266, speaking of Lilias White: has anyone ever heard her going on about how much she hated playing Grizabella? Her viciousness and bitterness about is hilarious/disturbing....I always wonder what exactly happened.
- Marin's jugs were almost hanging down to her waist in the opening scene of Passion in 1994.
What must they look like now?
- R323, it only ran like 11 performances. Early in the season. It might've been 7 performances.
- I was just gonna say....Come Back to the 5 and Dime didn't run long enough to get Tony nominators/voters in to see it.
- R323, if it was anything like his Ressurrection Blues at The Old Vic with Matthew Modine, Jane Adams, Maximillian Schell, etc., it's possible it was dull and dreary to an excruciating degree. It's no fun watching actors completely adrift. It's painful even.
I don't think Altman was much of a stage director.
- Went to see it and Cher was out. Heard she called out a lot.
- R334 I understand she was visiting Mt. Rushmore.
- Is Lily Tomlin being courted for Berthe?
- Gawd, it ran 52 performances after 4 previews. Seemed like a lot less at the time.
And Cher managed a Best Supporting Actress nomination from the Golden Globes and came 2nd Place for the same honour from the LAFC.
I remember Sandy Dennis seemed downright mentally retarded in the film version.
- "And Cher managed a Best Supporting Actress nomination from the Golden Globes and came 2nd Place for the same honour from the LAFC"
Cher's date at the Oscar's that year was a smoking hot Val Kilmer.
- why would Lily Tomlin-who doesnt sing-and can do whatever the hell she wants--and is spectacular--play a 10 minute role for?
- "Patti's an asshole when she gets on her high horse about The Arts."
And, lots of times, even when she's NOT on her high horse about The Arts. Seems nowadays she'll say or write anything, no matter how outrageous, just to call more attention to herself. (Did you read her book? Incredible.)
As for her remark that "The British shouldn't write musicals," one might add: "And Patti LuPone shouldn't play roles in musicals that require a British accent, like Mrs. Lovett in SWEENEY TODD or Nancy in OLIVER!, because SHE CAN'T DO ONE.
- Wentworth Miller for Helen Sinclair!
I totally agree, guvnah!
- I just heard recordings of the Mrs Lovett of Faith Prince and Emily Skinner. Prince couldn't do a convincing accent but Skinner sounded quite good. I hope they get someone who can pull off the accent for the Bryn Terfel concert.
- Emily Skinner didn't appear in Sweeney Todd. Everyone would have noticed her siamese twin.
- She's not well known on the East Coast or a 'name' but Los Angeles based actress Tracy Lore would be perfect for Helen Sinclair.
How about Beth Leavel?
- r266 Did Lillias White ever play Grizabella? Or did she just rehearse it? I thought I heard an old story that someone was seeing her in BACK TO BACHARACH AND DAVID back in the day and yelled out during an encore SING "MEMORY" Apparently she kept riffing and the stage manager had her fired?! One of you queens out there must know. And why did Lillias replace as ASAKA so quickly in ONCE ON THIS ISLAND? Inquiring minds want to know.
- [quote] Emily Skinner didn't appear in Sweeney Todd. Everyone would have noticed her siamese twin.
She wore one of her husband's oversized shirts and big scarf.
- R330=Jason Danieley
- Traci Lords for Helen Sinclair!
- Marin Mazzie for Milky White in the Into The Woods movie!
- Andrew Sullivan for Milky White!
- Moaning Myrtle, R317?
- Sandy Duncan should take over from Andrea Martin in Pippin. She was an amazing Roxie Hart in Chicago a few seasons back.
- [quote] She was an amazing Roxie Hart in Chicago a few seasons back.
Wasn't that last century?
- r354 Sandy Duncan was also terrific in Encores NO NO NANETTE and I believe that was this century - maybe in the last six or seven years.
- Beth Leavel stole that 2008 Encores! production of No, No, Nanette . . . stopped the show twice at the performance I attended.
- If Sandy does it she can change the lyric to "Eye, it's time to start living"....If you think Beth was good and she was, in No No, you should have seen Helen Gallagher.
- I'd rather see Helen Gallagher as Berthe than Sandy or Beth.
Now that would be something!
- As long as I don't have to HEAR Helen Gallagher.
- r353 wins this thread - Sandy Duncan is incredible and PIPPIN, and Broadway, and all of us, would be lucky to have her.
I know - MARY!
- [quote]Beth Leavel stole that 2008 Encores! production of No, No, Nanette
I thought she was kind of boring in it, and not at all believable as upper-class. Michael Beresse was more interesting, and Helen Gallagher on the CD sang the songs better.
- Doesn't Sandy Duncan have a hot gay son?
- Carol Channing wows Cherry Grove!
You mustn't mean this son.
- That's Michael Correia, r364. I think Jeffrey's the gay one.
- [quote]Sandy Duncan should take over from Andrea Martin in Pippin. She was an amazing Roxie Hart in Chicago a few seasons back
She was! I think Duncan was my favorite revival Roxie.. as good as Gwen Verdon who I saw in the original.
- It was such a waste to open the Chicago revival with Ann "Wheezy" Reiking.
- How about Flo Henderson replacing Andrea Martin? I would think that would bring in the tourists
- Anyone who finds Beth Leavel a boring performer must be on Adderall.
- Elizabeth Seal for Berthe!
- Andrea McArdle as Berthe!
- Hey! Why don't they just save $ and have Fran play Berthe? Or throw that hag, Alecia Parker's pussy up there. The most play that hamhock's gotten in years.
- Catharine O'Hara is Berthe!
Kathleen Turner is Berthe!
Mimi Hines is Berthe!
Leslie Uggams is Berthe!
Ann Miner is Berthe!
L*I*Z*A is Berthe!
Carol Lawrence is Berthe!
Dee Hoty is Berthe!
Jane Morgan is berthe!
Haya Harareet is Berthe!
Alice Playten is Berthe!
Marti Rolph is Berthe!
Virginia Sandifur is Berthe!
Loni Ackerman is Berthe!
- Mitzi Gaynor for Berthe!
Younger than Springtime and three times as tanned!
- Sandy will never work for the Weisslers again-never gonna happen
agree though that she was great in Chicago
whosever they get has basically got be hired already since the trapeze work must take some time and Andrea leaves in 3 weeks
- Alice Playten isn't up to playing Berthe these days, being dead and all.
The only one of those people who might be in the shape to do Berthe
and her acrobatics would be Loni Ackerman.
- What exactly was it that happened on Chicago that made Sandy hate the Weisslers?
- Damn! I forgot that Playten had died...Thanks R376
- [quote]What exactly was it that happened on Chicago that made Sandy hate the Weisslers?
How much time do you have R377?
- The photo of Sandy Duncan and family looks like an ad for Lenscrafters.
- Joanna Gleason for Berthe. She's in her 60s . . . but can she still lift her legs?
- Liza. There is no other choice. Tell me one person here wouldn't run to the Music Box to see Liza on a trapeze.
I'd run to the first performance, cause it'd be the ONLY performance.
- [quote]She was an amazing Roxie Hart in Chicago a few seasons back
a few decades back
- Sandy was the best Peter Pan. EVAH!!!!
- "If Sandy does it she can change the lyric to 'Eye, it's time to start living...'"
Oh, that's so witty, R357 -- a.k.a. fucking asshole, douchebag moron, imbecilic cretin with the maturity of a three-year old.
Have a good night ;-)
- r386=prisspot school marm pearl clutcher type who worships their 70's diva hasbeens
- Me? On A Trapeeshe?
- Clutch those fucking dollar store pearls R386!!
- Harvey Fierstein for Berthe
- Sandahl Bergman is Berthe.
Donna MacKechnie is Berthe.
Kelly Bishop is Berthe.
- Georgia Engel as Berthe!
- Reading the ATC thread about people desperate for rush tickets to the final weekend of NATASHA, PIERRE makes me so relieved I never had any interest in seeing the show and didn't have to deal with the pain in the ass of overpriced tickets or finagling a cheap way to get in!
- Betty Lynn as Berthe!
- REPLACE! REPLACE?
Patti (to agent) WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
- how many shows did Tovah do?
seems odd that they bothered to get a "name" replacement
- R387, it has nothing to do with whom I worship or don't worship. It's all to do with calling out an idiot who made a 100 percent tasteless, stupid, not remotely funny "joke" about a performer being blind in one eye. If you enjoy that level of "humor," you too should have lunch together. And eat glass.
- oh my r397 aren't you a sensitive little flower....maybe you should leave dl and go to broadwayworld.com
- Sandy won't be available. She's planning on replacing Valerie Harper when she bows out of Dancing With the Stars.
- We have lots of time, r379. Spill on Sandy and the Weisslers. Or at the very least, give us the Cliff Notes version.
Pretty please, with Charlie Williams on top?
- Jackie Hoffman for Berthe!
- This thread has been overtaken by crazy people. Hopefully by 120, this asinine talk will be over and we can talk about the new season and not stupid people upping each other with insane replacement talk.
- well smell you r402!
- R420 is a control-freak relic of another age, a humorless twat.
That said ... for crying out loud, we have DONE "Berthe replacements." Even talk of who should play Mame would be fresher at this point.
- [quote]If they need someone really, really old, how 'bout Madonna? She was wonderful in 'Speed the Plow'.
[quote]how 'bout Madonna? She was woeful in 'Speed the Plow'.
There. Fixed that for you, R311.
- Miranda Priestly can be a bitch but she did come up with the famous Raul Esparza and his bisexual cock tag line. For that 'he' should be revered.
- Apparently, Victoria Clark has some hateful things about the backstage crew at Rodgers and Ha...
I mean Rodgers + Hammerstein's
- Duncan was pissed at the level of promotion the Weissler's did for her stint in Chicago.
I think she was also unhappy with having to play opposite a less than first-rate Velma before Ruthie Henshall took over.
- I'll bet whatever Victoria Clark has to say about the backstage crew at CINDERELLA pales compared to what the backstage crew has to say about her.
- I know that Liza replacing Andrea Martin was said as a joke, but could it happen? She would only have to be on stage for 10 minutes, so her stamina and reliability wouldn't come into play. They'd have to modify the trapeze work immensely, but even just a sliver of it would be enough with Liza playing the part.
- Liza has to sit for most of her onstage time nowadays. No way would she do Pippin.
- [quote]I think she was also unhappy with having to play opposite a less than first-rate Velma before Ruthie Henshall took over.
Actually, she and Henshall got along very well. But you're right about the lack of promotion.
And Duncan was genius in the role.
- [quote] Actually, she and Henshall got along very well. But you're right about the lack of promotion.
No, I believe Duncan started her run with a different Velma than Henshall. I actually think she wanted someone with a bit more "name"/buzz, so she was happy when Henshall joined. And yes, they got on like a house on fire.
- When I saw Sandy Duncan, Mamie Duncan Gibbs was playing Velma and yes, she was underwhelming.
- Liza hands shake too much to be able to do any trapeze work. She is very unsteady these days.
- I won't forgive the old bitch line, r406, but yes, I do start trends, even when people highjack them with their inane rodffsskfjsk acronyms that never really caught on, as hard as she tried. Trends have to happen organically. They can't be forced. Like a cerulean belt, perhaps.
It's not easy being a trendsetter, but someone has to do it.
- Well I still love you Miranda... even after you referred to ME as wearing patent leather Mary Jane tap shoes.
Jen "Cuddles" Cody aka R406
- Sandy Duncan would be fabulous but didn't she fall off the ladder during 'Chicago' 17 years ago and never completed her run? She has a depth perception problem because of the eye. I doubt she could handle hanging from a trapeze safely.
- r418 True but Annie Reinking shit all over that ladder with the flu. Sharted. Wow.
- Between Chicago and Pippin, this poor thread has become a Weissler crapfest. And they're not even in heaven... yet.
- Sandy Duncan is Valerie Harper stand-by on Dancing with the stars.
- Will Swenson as Dr. Frank-N-Furter in ROCKY HORROR at Bucks County? Why on earth would he take another drag role. He looked just about as uncomfortable in PRISCILLA as I've ever seen a lead in a Broadway musical. He looked like he couldn't get out of of doing that show fast enough.
- [quote] He looked like he couldn't get out of doing that show fast enough.
And yet, he did it for the entire tryout and Broadway run - over a year. And now back into the fishnets.
I think he enjoyed it more than he's letting on...
Audra, you in danger, gurl!
- Will Swenson is a REAL man, peoples!
It's because of him that I gave up show business and moved to Wisconsin!
- Relax, everybody! it's going to be Tovah. Mark my words.
- Sandy Duncan left Chicago abruptly because she had negotiated most favored nations pay and then found out Henshall was getting paid more than she was. The end.
- R412, you might want to deal with your reading comprehension problem.
As I recall, Sandy Duncan did injure herself during a rehearsal or performance of CHICAGO, so she left the show. She returned to it after she healed, but she had quite a short run. She was GREAT in the part.
P.S. I don't think her injury had anything to do with her lack of depth perception. She did all that flying in PETER PAN with no problem. And anyway, you don't lose all depth perception if you only have sight in one eye. Close one of your eyes and see for yourself.
- "True but Annie Reinking shit all over that ladder with the flu. Sharted. Wow."
Is this true or a joke?
- Why wouldn't Patti do Berthe? Is it any different than her mini stage time in Women on the Verge.......
Oh, wait a minute. There's that troubling trapeze factor.
- R421 see R399, and try to keep up.
- [quote]Between Chicago and Pippin, this poor thread has become a Weissler crapfest. And they're not even in heaven... yet.
Maybe by the time we get to R600...
- Why would Barry and Fran be in Heaven? They're Jewish.
- Jewish yes, but shrewd businesspeople!
- Of course they're shrewd, but that still didn't answer my question.
- R427- She injured herself out of town on the tour. Ann Reinking stepped in. That is when Reinking had gained some weight and she wore a long flannel outfit that looked like a nightshirt! Duncan recouped (broke her foot I believe when she slipped on the ladder) and then came in for the Broadway company.
- It's the Tommy Tune curse. All it takes is do play opposite him, as Duncan and Reinking did, and you are prone to injury.
- [quote]And anyway, you don't lose all depth perception if you only have sight in one eye. Close one of your eyes and see for yourself.
Pssssttt Sandy Duncan can't really fly. A lot of Sandy's moves in 'Peter Pan' were controlled. She flew where they sent her. I didn't say she had NO depth perception but having one eye effects it. Well known Hollywood story is Andre de Toth, the director of the first big 3D movie, 1953's 'House Of Wax' was blind in one eye and could never see the 3D effects. Loved her Pan, she was the best and thrilling. I certainly hope she could do it.
- Who's had Bobby Steggart?
- Thanks, R436. I had forgotten that Duncan's injury happened out of town. Apparently, the original plan was that she would first join the tour and then the Broadway production, but as it happened, she came to directly to Broadway (after her foot healed) for a brief run.
R438: What the fork are you talking about? When a performer is "flown" (by Foy), all of the major flying moves are controlled. Do you think Cathy Rigby doesn't "fly where then send her?"
- R435. Don't be dense. The Weisslers will go anywhere, even heaven, if they think there will be stars they can use in one of their long-running shows.
- All Peters are controlled by Foy. Jean Arthur flew. Barbara Baxley flew when Jean Arthur was unable to go on. Veronica Lake flew (and how). Mary Martin certainly flew and she was controlled by the Foys and Richard Halliday.
- Who and what is FOY?
- And Sophie Tucker will shit, I know, I did too!
- HANDS ON A HARD CANDY CHRISTMAS!
- I'd think Beth Leavel is probably second or third tier Broadway, competent but hardly a draw or name despite a Tony
- R443. Google is your friend and source of information. But I'll tell you anyway. It's a British company who used their skills to "fly" all the famous (and nonfamous) Peter Pans in the 20th Century. Someone named a lot of them, but also to be remembered were Dorothy Tutin, Susan Hampshire, and Julia Lockwood, Margaret's daughter. Virtually anyone who played Peter Pan was sent up in the air (and kept there) by the firm founded by Peter Foy.
- Did Barbra Streisand have an affair with Charlie Chaplin while she was married to Elliott Gould? Do you think Charlie is the father of her son, Jason? Was Elliott too busy starring in Drat, the Cat to know what was going on?
- R448-Don't you mean Charlie's son Sydney Chaplin her FUNNY GIRL co-star? According to something I once read (the notes in the CD booklet?) yes she did.
- FOY even flew Lisa Welchel when she did the role at Starlight Theatre, and Ruta Lee before her in the late 60's!
B.D. Wong, who also flew at Kansas City Starlight as Peter!
- Barbra slept with both Charlie and Sydney Chaplin. If Jason is Charlie Chaplin's son, then he should have inherited Charlie's immense fortune.
- [quote] If Jason is Charlie Chaplin's son, then he should have inherited Charlie's immense fortune.
Not to mention his enormous schlong.
- Barbra also fucked Omar Sharif during the filming of Funny Girl.
- Sandy and Ruthie got along great. But Sandy had a rough time in Chicago. First she injured her foot out of town. Belle Callaway stepped in then a zaftig Annie Reinking played the Boston run. Ruthie was Velma the whole time. Ruthie stepped into the bway company as planned while Sandy's foot healed. The Weissler's brought Charlotte D'Amboise in for her first broadway stint as Roxie and invited the critics. By the time Sandy was well enough to takeover on broadway, the critics had already been back and Ruthie was off to join Putting it Together. The Weissler's stuck Mamie Duncan Hines and her enormous wig in as Velma and Sandy was not happy. She left as soon as her contract was up.
- Foy even flew Puck and some of the fairies in my college production of Midsummer in the 1980s So they must have been pretty affordable.
- Besides Raul Esparza, R439?
- [quote]What the fork are you talking about? When a performer is "flown" (by Foy), all of the major flying moves are controlled. Do you think Cathy Rigby doesn't "fly where then send her?"
R427 said she had no problem flying with limited depth perception. Climbing a ladder in the dark with limited depth perception can be a problem as it was in "Chicago" and flying on a trapeze is different than the Pan flying. I stated the Pan flying was controlled. Pay attention.
- Big Fish starts previews Thursday! It'll be warm this week, will Bobby wear flip-flops to the show?
- The recent Streisand bio chronicles her affair with Sydney Chaplin.
(while she was married to Gould!)
- all you need to do to prove that Jason Gould is the offspring of Barbra and Elliott is look at this face...it's a map of both of their best features.
- This theatre thread really has gone off the rails.
- My friend SideShow Bob is such a cunt.......
- r428 I did hear that back when Chicago was very early in the run, the entire cast got a stomach flu. Anne Reinking went on even though she did not feel well. She mounted the ladder for FUNNY HONEY and sharted all over the poor chorus man holding the bottom of the ladder. Don't know if it's a joke but I did hear that.
- R426/457, what you originally wrote was: "Pssssttt Sandy Duncan can't really fly. A lot of Sandy's moves in 'Peter Pan' were controlled." This implies that the flying moves of the other Peter Pans were NOT controlled, but the reality is that the flying moves of ALL of the Peter Pans were controlled.
That was my point. Do you understand? Are YOU able to pay attention?
- R463, I heard a similar story about Carol Channing during the late 70s Dolly revival. Carol NEVER missed a show, so she went on even when she had stomach flu. She had so many costume changes, tha she had a dressing cubicle just off stage, in addition to her dressing room.
After one quick change, she came out, whispered to the stage manager, who called the crew and ordered a "clean-up in Miss Channing's dressing cubicle IMMEDIATELY!"
- Was it corn, R465?
- [quote] A lot of Sandy's moves in 'Peter Pan' were controlled." This implies that the flying moves of the other Peter Pans were NOT controlled, but the reality is that the flying moves of ALL of the Peter Pans were controlled.
What the fuck do the other Pans flying have to with what we were discussing? Saying Sandy's flying was controlled implied NOTHING about the others. We were talking about her flying with depth perception issues. Now, if any other actor playing "Peter Pan" had one eye they would have been included. You have no point.
- Endless Bertha suggestions, endless discussions of Sandy Duncan's depth perception when flying, and tales of bowel accidents by Ann Reinking and Carol Channing.
- At summer theatre venues in the 1970's, Carol Channing would dress in one of those portable curtained dressing rooms right in an aisle.
She dressed right next to me one Sunday afternoon during a performance of Lorelei.
- R469. So this is worth retelling because... (pick any two from Column A and one from Column 2).
- Is GLASS MENAGERIE not selling well? I'm getting lost of discount offers.
- I am wondering about he economic wisdom of this Glass Menagerie revival. There are some star heavy revivals this fall and Cherry's name doesn't reverberate much outside of the boroughs does it?
It is challenging to build interest in this. I think Quinto should be the focus of the advertising but contractually that might not be an option for them
- Do you mean r472 because Cherry's "people" would demand that she's in the forefront of the ads???
I really don't think so!
- I love Cherry Jones. I'll bet when she was a pre-teen and later she got a lot of grief from asshole straight boys because of her first name.
- no, r473 I think he means actors have contracts that stipulate where they are featured in ads
- Once The Glass Menagerie gets the rapturous review - Cherry's prestige + the Star Trek geeks via Zach Quinto will sell the limited run in the small house. It is a gorgeous production.
Cherry is no fool - Quinto is front and center in the ads.
- "What the fuck do the other Pans flying have to with what we were discussing? Saying Sandy's flying was controlled implied NOTHING about the others."
Again, what you originally wrote was: "Pssssttt Sandy Duncan can't really fly. A lot of Sandy's moves in 'Peter Pan' were controlled." Your use of the word "Pssttt" made it seem to me that you were passing on some information you thought was secret, and I thought you were implying that Sandy's flying moves were more controlled than the other Peter Pans. Sorry if I misunderstood, but I think you could have made your point more clearly.
- Oh Fuck Peter Pan. Scream no if you don't believe in fairies. ON this list, that's a hoot!
- r477 give it a rest
- Michelle Williams in talks to play Sally Bowles in upcoming Roundabout revival of their revival of CABARET.
Patsy in ticket sales
- She showed enough singing voice in that Marilyn movie to handle Sally Bowles. She might be wonderful.
- I saw Sandy Duncan in "Chicago" opposite Ruthie Henshall. Sandy was great, but Ruthie gave one of the worst OTT performances I have ever laid eyes on! Maybe that's why they got on so well.
- Will Swenson will NOT do drag after all. Out of Rocky Horror, into Little Miss Sunshine.
He jumped outta those fishnets as quickly as his beefy legs could take him.
- Ruthie's more of a Roxie than a Velma
- I like the idea of Michelle Wiliams as Sally. Makes more sense than that Emma Stone rumor.
- NATASHA, PIERRE found a new place to pitch it's tent!
- I saw Ruthie do Velma- she was pretty funny...esp when she made buck teeth faces in I Cant Do It Alone. Agree- she makes for a better Roxie.
- R480. Patsy in ticket sales at Roundabout. Are you aka always snarky and snide Mockingbird on ATC. If so, can it.
- r486 - Yes, but WHERE???
I read th article and all I got was
"Performances will begin Sept. 24 on West 45th Street between Times Square and 8th Avenue."
- No R488 I am not MockingbirdGirl. I can't stand her either! I was baNNed from Talkin Broadway about 7 years ago.... the bitch A.M. did me in. I use to post over at Vera's anti ATC board That's All Chat until Vera's replacement moderator took the board down.
- [quote] WHERE EXACTLY?
259 West 45 Street
(Between Broadway and 8th Avenue)
- I'm thinking it's in the empty lot next to the Imperial. Where that other Circus-theme thing played a couple years ago.
- Bad move.
- Why do you think it's a bad move? It's closer to Broadway and tourists who may have been turned off by the previous location.
- Broadway/tourist audiences are the last people who will want to see this show.
- Tourists in The Great Comet audience. Are you fucking high, r494??
Where's the flying monkeys? Where's the falling chandelier? Where's the Baby Boomer songs we can sing along to ? Where's the latest piece of musical shit with a no talent "name" above the title?
There you will fid tourists!
- And when they find out a full meal is a bite of three different cold dish, they will not be happy.
- I love the idea, R485. I hope she does it.
- Michelle Williams can do anything she wants on Bway--why would she want to do a role in whats basically a revival of a revival?
How can Comet make any money with 199 seats (or less)-? Just that inept producer pissing more money away to fuel his ego
- R499 Because it's a chance to play Sally Fucking Bowles, that's why. Also, she'll probably sign on for 3 mos and, I think, she lives in NYC.
Just, please, no Katie Holmes.
- Get Van Der Beek to do the Emcee and you could run forever on the Dawson's Creek nostalgia, first with Michelle and then Katie.
And we know Mary Beth Peil could play Frau Schneider - she's done it before. And get Kerr Smith to play bisexual Cliff Bradshaw.
Even if it flops on Broadway, it could be a great summer stock tour. Far better than fat Sally Struthers in Hello Dolly!
- Sara Kestelman should get to give Broadway her Schneider. None better.
The West End Revival of a Revial had to make do with the flop-Bionic Woman.
- Looks like it's official:
- What's all this talk about Salty Bowels?
- Bobby Steggert came out in OUT. I love "in passing" coming outs.
- R500. She lives in Brooklyn. That's practically the same as Manhattan and a tad cheaper.
- MMMM....Danial Sunjata is coming back to Broadway in the Ethan Hawlk MACBETH.
He's playing MacBuff!
- EW!!!!!!!! Mockingbirdgirl is a nasty know it all asshole!!!!!! Someone needs to bite her pussy. STAT!
- I went to see Pippin tonight for the second time.......the hunky blonde seems to be out altogether; his picture (and 2nd act opening balance trick) were nonexistent.
Christopher Sieber was FAR SUPERIOR to Terence Mann. Loved him, as did the audience.
2 Orchestra seats (one on the side aisle), purchased just 2 days ago.
- [quote]all you need to do to prove that Jason Gould is the offspring of Barbra and Elliott is look at this face...it's a map of both of their best features.
That's not saying very much, R460.
- I don't get it, r510. Who is that - Cody Green?
- Willl the new Cabaret be Tony eligible?
- Liza as Fraulein Schneider!!!
"The shun will rise and the shun will shet and you learn how to shettle for what you get..."
- Yes, Liza and Joel would be awesome. It would be the hit of the century. Hottest ticket in town.
- "Yes, Liza and Joel would be awesome. It would be the hit of the century. Hottest ticket in town."
I don't think you have the strongest grasp of the general public's tastes.
- Liza's a mess. She doesn't have the acting chops for Schneidet.
- Joy Behar as Fraulein Schneider!
- Mr. Burns at Playwrights Horizons.
- If Mendes follows his template for the last production, Fräulein Schneider and Herr Schultz will be middle-aged, not seniors. Especially Schneider.
Liza is so grotesque these days, the only part she would be right for is one of the fat Kit Kate Club lady band members.
- Andrea McArdle for Fräulein Schneider. She's 50, you know.
- [quote]Mr. Burns at Playwrights Horizons.
Clever, provocative premise. But it's not much of a play; just a collection of ideas. The audience I saw it with loathed it. Dozens and dozens of walk outs.
Look for the critics, desperate to look hip, to rave. THE FLICK, PT. 2.
- [quote]Sara Kestelman should get to give Broadway her Schneider. None better.
I agree. Saw the TV video. She was great. I assume they cut "Don't Tell Mama," and "Money, Money" for the broadcast due to time?
- Liza couldn't handle it. As someone upthread said, she is a mess. She might last one week of performances and she'd start missing.
Not H.C. or buzzie buzz buzz.......
- Williams is surprisingly awesome casting for this. Ebersole would be a good Schneider if they're going younger and she'd do it.
- Anyone excited about the coming eight faces of Jefferson Mays?
- No, no, no, no, no, no, no and yes.
- [quote] Ebersole would be a good Schneider if they're going younger and she'd do it.
Honey, if you feed her and pay her cab fare that bitch will show up to the opening of an envelope. Or a zipper. Or a wallet.
- Cyndy Lauper is Fraulein Schneider
Harvey Feirstein is Herr Schultz
Karen Olivio is Fraulein Kost
and with the most over-rated, cloying actor ever, Alan Cumming, recreating his most over-rated cloying performance I will make sure I stay away from the theater district while it's running as the stench of the performances of these actors will finally kill Broadway once and for all.
- r528 = Christine Andreas.
- [quote]Karen Olivio is Fraulein Kost
Kost has to dance, yes?
Karen (peoples, you know the truth!) Olivo, on 4:00 break at Arby's.
- Is r529 giving us real info re Lauoer, Fierstein, and Olivo?
- Someone on BWW is demanding a Broadway revival of COME BACK TO THE FIVE & DIME, JIMMY DEAN, JIMMY DEAN.
Cast it, please.
- He's baaaack!
.when I would be back home again among my dear friends and be able to thank you from the bottom of my heart for all the good wishes, cards, playbills and love. After a recent bout with heart failure and thirty-one days in the hospital, I have risen stronger and wiser (and thinner) to take my rightful place on the stage of life. Tap shoes are spit shined, and I have added a rubber nose to my daily persona.
Thank you, and get ready. I'm back. buzzie
Tap dancing on a silver slip of a moon
- R529's casting almost sounds logical and true. Especially since Lauper and Fierstein worked together and bonded with the successful Kinky Boots.
Alan Cumming nauseates the shit out of me; I would rather see 80 year old Joel Grey then Alan Cumming who will once again preen about the stage with his faded nearly-50 year old body exposed.
- [quote]If Mendes follows his template for the last production, Fräulein Schneider and Herr Schultz will be middle-aged, not seniors. Especially Schneider
Did you see that production? Original cast Ron Rifkin and Mary Louise Wilson were seniors and I saw it again later with the best MC John Stamos and Polly Bergen and Hal Linden were seniors.
- OMG. Then it's Stritch, fresh from Shady Pines, for Schneider. I knew she couldn't stay away from the NY stage for long. Not only would Schneider be a senior, she'd be desiccated and obnoxious. "LINE!"
- R536, I saw the John Stamos production, too, and he was surprisingly very good.
- R407 What did Vicki Clark say?
- r536, Rifkin was 59 and Wilson was 67 in '98 when the show opened on Broadway.
- I love Christine Ebersole, but her as Schneider is an awful, awful idea
- Mary Beth Piel would be a great Schneider. Rondi Reed. Harriet Harris would be off beat but WONDERFUL. Cherry Jones would be unavailable, but great. You know who else probably would be great? Tovah.
I'd love to see Austin Pendleton as Schultz.
- John Kander liked Stamos as the Emcee too.
- Rachelle Rak as Kit Kat Girl #3!!!!!!!!!
- Triple threat, Rachal Rak!
- [quote]Cyndy Lauper is Fraulein Schneider Harvey Feirstein is Herr Schultz Karen Olivio is Fraulein Kost
Wow, the trifecta of misspellings. Zero for three, honey.
- Really, when you think that Schneider and Schultz were originally played by Lotte Lenya and Jack Gilford....how the world has changed, it has changed a lot, indeed.
- Peoples, hire me!
- [quote]John Kander liked Stamos as the Emcee too.
Yes, he felt that Stamos had the total package.
- Betty Lynn as Fraulein Schneider!
(but only if the entire cast and crew including box office personnel meditate before each performance)
- Danny Burstein for Herr Schultz, and Rebecca Luker for Fraulein Schneider!
- Karen Olivo IS Checkout Girl #2!
- I saw "Natasha and the Comet" in August. My experience was ruined by a large table next to us of middle aged adults acting like spring breakers at a club. It was a Tuesday night, not a weekend. They were loud and drunk, laughing and talking through the entire second act. At one point the actors stopped and waited for them to settle down, which they did only to begin again. It was awful, even in the quiet moments they kept on as if they were at a noisy bar. Now that the show is moving and widening its audience I suspect it will draw even more obnoxious audiences. If people cannot keep it together in a conventional theatre setting they are certainly not going to be hushed and respectful in a rowdy vodka-fueled adult playground setting. Btw, at a table behind the yahoos my friend spotted one of the NY Real Housewives--she was a fairly quiet group.
- Thanks, R536, for setting the record straight. In what universe are a 59-year-old man and a 67-year-old woman "middle aged?"
Nothing's more annoying than people who don't know what they're talking about but insist on spreading their "knowledge" anyway.
- 59 isn't a senior
- I saw BIG FISH in Chicago. I don't think its fixable. But here they go!
- "Someone on BWW is demanding a Broadway revival of COME BACK TO THE FIVE & DIME, JIMMY DEAN, JIMMY DEAN."
To the sound of crickets chirping, one hopes.
Though if they can revive a clunker like THE MILK TRAIN DOESN'T STOP HERE ANYMORE (albeit Off-Broadway), I suppose someone could exhume this one too.
Since we're on a Liza kick, she could play the transsexual (Karen Black in the original).
- "59 isn't a senior."
That's technically true, but someone who's 59 is certainly not "middle-aged," which was the point I wanted to make to the poster who claimed otherwise:
"If Mendes follows his template for the last production, Fräulein Schneider and Herr Schultz will be middle-aged, not seniors."
- [quote]59 isn't a senior
How many 118-year-olds do you know?
- Just curious. What years begin and end middle age?
- [quote] What years begin and end middle age?
28 and 35
- Middle age ends with a person's 50s. Although it's hard to think of Meryl Streep, in her early 60s, as being a "senior."
- Oh ye, of little Faith!
Annie to Close
(no surprise - 1/5/2014)
- [quote] How many 118-year-olds do you know?
- Mark my words -- the ANNIE revival won't make it until January. That announcement was made to stimulate sales to get them to January, and September is looking really grim for them. It may not make it to October. You read it here first.
- r565 is right, although I think they'll make it. I know an investor, and they're really pissed at how the lead producer screwed this whole thing up. Lapine was the wrong choice, and the marketing was stupid. A good revival of ANNIE should have run at least 18-24 months. They blew this big time.
- r566, I would love to hear more specifics about what the investors think! (I love ANNIE and hated this production with the heat of ten thousand suns.)
- I usually think of middle aged as 45 to 60.
- "Mark my words -- the ANNIE revival won't make it until January."
That would be a wonderful thing. Put it out of its misery.
Me too. Somehow the powers-that-be managed to produce a charmless, frumpy, joyless ANNIE. They should be embarrassed.
- I had a dream.
Katie Finneran was in a play that was happening in my neighbor's front yard.
Weird, I know.
- Is there already a new musical that's eying The Palace once Annie vacates?
That jewel of a theater deserves a gorgeous show and it hasn't had one in a very long time.
- R572- Maybe Heather Headley will return to the theater of her last success (Aida) with The Bodyguard? I loved her so much in London and can't wait to see her again in NYC.
- There's an article (not a review) on "Big Fish" in this week's EW. Also a sidebar on upcoming film-to-Broadway shows.
- [quote]I had a dream... Katie Finneran was in a play that was happening in my neighbor's front yard. Weird, I know.
Yeah, because Katie Finneran only does plays in people's back yards.
- I hate ryhog!!
- I hate dramedy and his weekly nut.
- R576: Get in the back of a long line.
- BroadwayWorld.com launched a new design and it's busy busy busy and very buggy. Takes forever to load.
- I think Joanna Gleason and Chris Sarandon would make a great Schneider and Schultz.
- Marthe Keller as Schneider. You read it here first.
- Will anybody go see Faith before the dog is put to sleep? She is out a lot (because of previously booked gigs) but still no one seems at all interested in her take on Hannigan.
- Mackensie Phillips as Schneider
- Mary Louise Wilson as Ann Miner. And who will play dramedy? And is English his first language?
- "The Glass Menagerie" is beautiful. It has a scheduled run which is to be short and that is the only bad thing. Cherry Jones lost the weight she put on when it had its
run at ART and looks all the better for it. Cherry and the staging and movement are wonderful and the whole cast is just a fierce unit. I'm not to state anything else for fear of spoiling it but be on the lookout for Laura's entrance and exit.
- Why do the comments on the First preview of Big Fish make it sound really awful? No one these days ever seems to do much to improve a show between, say, Chicago and six months later in New York. As usual, the best thing about Dead Fish seems to be Norbert, who isn't huffing and puffing yet.
- I am also with r567--who knows the behind the scenes gossip with "Annie"? Everything about the production was so wrong headed that it is shocking no producer stepped up. You have to really try to completely wreck the kind of show that just about everybody who wants to see it wants to love it. "West SIde Story" and "Guys and Dolls" are the last revivals I saw that left me dispirited and confused about how it all happened.
- "That jewel of a theater deserves a gorgeous show and it hasn't had one in a very long time."
You can say that again.
- Summer's over and the dreaded Fall is here. Kinky Boots back on 1/2 price booth at 30% off and Pippin now pretty much a regular anywhere from 30 to 50% off. What's next? Rebecca Luker not being around long in Cindy?
- Well, in fact, Luker WON'T be around long in Cindy. She's only contracted for the three or so months that VC requested off. Although, something could always happen and Vicky could just "never come back."
- Is Glass Menagerie afraid to make a go of it with an extended run? They can't get those 4 actors to commit to a year? That's sad.
- I'm not stating anything that hasn't already been said here before, but anyone who has worked with James Lapine would have known that he was the wrong choice to direct Annie.
He never trusts any material he hasn't written. He couldn't even make a success of a sure-fire play like The Diary of Anne Frank.
- The pearl-clutching Marys on BroadwayWorld are saying things like "This is the type of theater I live for: the kind that sends you home stupefied, change [sic] forever."
and: "I found myself sobbing into my hands several times throughout, overwhelmed by it all."
and: "there were moments where I stopped breathing."
- ...about GLASS MENAGERIE...
- I hate Jordan Catalano and Phyllis Rodgers Stone over at Bwayworld.
- I have never ever heard open sobbing at the theater. Maybe sniffles on a very rare occasion. Why must these dramadorks insist on hyperbole? Don't they know what actually open sobbing sounds like? Can't they just say they were moved and leave it at that? They're always openly sobbing. Weeping. Moaning. Gnashing of teeth. Rending of garments. Or, conversely, laughing with tears rolling down their cheeks. What the fuck? What on Broadway has been that funny in generations? These queens are like walking pull quotes. Makes you discount every single thing they say.
- "Maybe Heather Headley will return to the theater of her last success (Aida) with The Bodyguard? I loved her so much in London and can't wait to see her again in NYC."
Apparently, if she keeps up the same attendance record she had in London, your chances of seeing her go on at whatever performance you attend are not good.
"Anyone who has worked with James Lapine would have known that he was the wrong choice to direct Annie. He never trusts any material he hasn't written."
Like Arthur Laurents, Lapine doesn't even trust material he HAS written. Did you SEE the INTO THE WOODS revival? Or maybe it's just that he has absolutely no talent whatsoever as a director, in comparison to the very minimal talent he possesses as a writer.
- Although everything about SOUL DOCTOR being on Broadway makes my skin crawl, I have to say the actual story of Schlomo is interesting, just not the cliched way it's portrayed. And couldn't they find an actress that could sing Nina Simone better?
- Schlomo always sounds dirty to me.
- We're almost at the end..
Time to discuss a fabulous revival of COCO!
- Lena Dunham as COCO!