Japan reports highest Fukushima alert levels since the tsunami.
This should not surprise anyone who has been really paying attention--in other words, digging for information--because the mainstream media, world governments, nuclear agencies, health organizations, etc., has completely ignored three ongoing triple meltdowns that have never been contained. The situation is either ignored or ridiculously downplayed. Just the fact that this is being reported at all should tell you how dangerous this is. Leaky tanks? More like the collapse of the infrastructure that is continuous, the nuclear criticialities, the atmospheric emissions, and the possible risk of more explosions. Yes, there was an explosion at Nuclear plant #4. Someone commented, "Standing in the middle of the freeway, you are directed to look at and note the leaky radiator, as the bus comes barreling down on you…" Japan is quickly turning into radioactive quicksand.
The fish in the Pacific are bleeding out their eyes, mouths, anus, yet no one cares.
Watch out all of you on the West coast.
Top Chinese scientists published a study in the Science China Earth Sciences journal showing that Fukushima nuclear pollution is becoming more concentrated as it approaches the West Coast of the United States, that the plume crosses the ocean in a nearly straight line toward North America, and that it appears to stay together with little dispersion.
The time scale of the nuclear pollutants reaching the west coast of America is 3.2 years, if it is estimated using the surface drifting buoys, and 3.9 years if it is estimated using the nuclear pollutant particulate tracers.
It is worth noting that due to the fact that the current near the shore cannot be well reconstructed by the global ocean reanalysis, some nuclear pollutant particulate tracers may come to rest in the near shore area, which may result in additional uncertainty in the estimation of the impact strength.
Every single nuclear reactor ever built will experience catastrophic failure in the next 1,000 years, let alone 10,000. To say nuclear power is safe when you can contaminate an area for 10,000 years on an even that will certainly happen before 10,000 years are up, is thinking with the little head, not the big head. Our regulators, scientists, and yes, that fool President Obama, ought to be taken to task for their idiotic reliance on nuclear power.
You know who started this nuclear catastrophe, don't you? Margaret Snatcher. She is the one responsible for starting the nuclear craze maze of lies.
Charlie Rose (I doubt it's the real Charlie Rose) said some scary shit. That Tepco dug some test boreholes recently and found that the caesium level was higher in samples from the bottom of the bore than at the top. Tepco suggested that this was because caesium was subject to gravity.
That's possible, but isn't there a more likely explanation for this phenomenon?
If the reactor cores have melted their way out of the containment vessels they may well have found their way into the subsoil BENEATH the reactor buildings. The corium would then keep going until it hit bedrock.
SO HERE'S THE PROBLEM:
If the corium is sitting on bedrock beneath the reactor buildings, there is only one thing preventing it from becoming critical again: the huge amount of groundwater flowing over and around it.
If Tepco start pumping up or diverting away the groundwater from the site in great quantities not only do they risk destabilising what remains of the reactor structures, they might also cause a re-criticality in reactor fuel in the subsoil.
The risk to the Pacific Ocean from contaminated water flowing into it is very great. But the risk to the planet from uncovering the melted reactor cores and exposing them to the air is far greater.
Incredibly it may actually be safer in the short term to continue polluting the Pacific than uncovering one or more melted reactor cores by removing or diverting groundwater away from the site.
Can't someone just drop a nuclear bomb on it? We dropped those two in the 40s and everything worked out okay.
If the buildings sink and crack the fuel will catch on fire and contaminate millions of people.
As for the bombing idea. A nuclear bomb by itself will spread about 2-10 pounds of uranium/plutonium all around the world.
So what happens if you bomb a nuclear reactor site, with 2,000 tons of FISSIONABLE material?
Let us imagine that all of this goes up and fissions along with the bomb itself… In other words, it would be the biggest nuclear explosion in the history of the planet.
If the nuclear bomb triggers some or most of whatever is left in the spent fuel pools and reactors to explode and fission in addition to what is in the bomb itself, what would happen?
The explosion may be the equivalent of a meteor hitting the Earth, creating a nuclear winter and putting the whole planet into a deep freeze.
At best, the nuclear explosion would vaporize what is left on site, putting 1,000 TONS of uranium, plutonium and whatever other nasty radioactive things there into the upper atmosphere… polluting the whole planet with the equivalent of an all out nuclear war, possibly, or probably creating a life extinction event.
My sister and brother-in-law live three blocks from the ocean in Southern California. Their beach is the one which they tested the kelp and found radioactive iodine. My brother-in-law contracted leukemia last year, and he's not doing very well right now. My sister is worried sick.
This IS a life-extinction event. It's just moving in slow-motion.
I have a Japanese friend who lives in Tokyo, just diagnosed with ALS (Lou Gehrig's disease). The average life expectancy after diagnosis is 3 years. Is there any connection between such diseases and Fukushima radiation?
Watching CNN debase itself beyond recognition as it lavished attention on a cracked-out Charlie Sheen while this planet-altering (ending?) event unfolded in "face-saving" secrecy was one of the eeriest experiences I've ever had. Nobody seemed to care. A real body snatchers moment for me.
I am now vegan, won't swim in the Pacific and take nascent iodine, among other protocols.
I don't discuss it (anymore), but I soon expect mass cancer deaths across age groups, fast and untreatable, in those who don't detox, get off meats and prepare their bodies as best they can ASAP.
But seriously, this is going to cause a hole to the center of the Earth.
Or to the Inner Earth, if you believe in the hollow Earth theory.
CNN's a joke. I turned it on just to see what they were saying about Fukushima and they went on and on about David Cassidy's drunk driving charge.
Oh, and this chemical thing in Syria is FALSE. Even NPR kind of admits it.
R1, we do care. We really do.
And what are YOU doing about it, Chicken Little. I mean, other than using the catastrophe as an excuse for practicing that favorite game of the loser do-nothing: Self-serving finger pointing.
I've also been following this from the beginning, and have gone through the various stages - shock, anger, grief, etc. - but this REALLY scares me, that it's finally being reported in the mainstream media. Until now, I'd hoped that what I'd been reading was greatly exaggerated, or the products of conspiracy theorists.
Nothing about the mass sea lion deaths and still births - along with other crucial sea life. Nothing about the frighteningly sudden mutations in Japan, and here. Nothing about the Japanese school children, being made to eat contaminated beef in their school lunches, and made to aid in, 'cleaning up' their playgrounds - or face being singled out and shamed. Nothing about the Japanese people, protesting their lying POS government and being ignored.
I don't know what to say, now, either - or what can be done. This brave man does the talking for me, I guess. For us all.
Every time the MSM admits anything its hundred times worse than they admit to.
Thanks a lot, Einstein...! You muthefucka
I live in Oregon and my thyroid stimulating hormone levels are flying off my doctor's radar screen because of Fukushima. Additionally the Hanford Nuclear Facility in Washington State is leaking into the ground and subsequently into the Columbia River. I'd say I'm pretty fucked.
Are you male or female, R10?
[quote] My sister and brother-in-law live three blocks from the ocean in Southern California. Their beach is the one which they tested the kelp and found radioactive iodine. My brother-in-law contracted leukemia last year, and he's not doing very well right now.
This is so weird.
A friend of mine from Seattle had cancer when she was in her 30's. She sought treatment and it went into remission.
Fukushima happened in March 2011. By December of 2011 her doctor told her that her cancer had returned, and by December 2012, she was dead at 42.
No one can be sure, but it makes me wonder if the fact that she lived in Seattle, and was already prone to cancer, made the effects of Fukushima pollution, that much more severe.
Doctors need to conduct a study on the increase of cancer deaths in West Coast, from 2011 forward. I have no doubt that the numbers will go up.
Any stats on cancers and stillborns/birth defects in Japan.
What a bunch of lies!
The radiation leaks are a danger to the Japanese, not the US.
Get a grip!
Years before this happened I had many weird dreams and in one of them someone came and told me Japan couldn't be saved and would be lost in translation.
R25, fish migrate across the ocean. Contaminated fish are already being discovered in Alaska and Canada. Fish are used in animal feed and pet food. The standards for animal consumption are not as strict as for human consumption. Then we eat the animals or vegetables fertilized by the fish byproducts. Wild animals also eat the fish and then are eaten themselves. This concentrates the levels of contamination in the consumer at the top of the food chain (us).
The Gulf Stream is gradually carrying the tsunami debris field to the west coast of the US and Canada. Much of it is contaminated. Some of this debris has already hit Alaska and Hawaii and is on its way to the mainland US. There have been many instances already of seals and other animals suffering from radiation sickness found in Alaska. The radiation level on the west coast is expected to increase greatly when the debris field hits the coast. How can you not understand that air, water and fish travel great distances? It's a constantly moving ocean, not a brick wall.
This is frightening, no wonder no one wants to really talk about it. It's a hopeless situation.
That's just it, r28 - and who can blame them? It's horrifying that this has been allowed to continue and escalate for almost three years, now. Three fucking years. It's jaw-dropping, to me.
"We just go on lighting the lights, and following the formalities..", Norman Bates
I'm from Kentucky you have to spell it out for me. Are we all going to die?
That's it! I'm stocking up on Tuna fish tomorrow.
Jane Fonda is preparing for the role of her life, a sequel to her earlier triumph, this one named, "The Uruguay Syndrome".
Some ting Wong!
Woo hoo! Maybe we'll finally see cheap real estate in California again.
quote]The fish in the Pacific are bleeding out their eyes, mouths, anus, yet no one cares.
Is this true?
One scary fact is this: whatever Japanese officials are reporting is very likely the tip of the iceberg.
Nuclear was wrong to ever dabble in, I can't believe that mankind did this to themselves. Mind boggling ignorance.
Stick a fork in us, we're done...
Planet Earth will survive...
I take fish oil supplements...do you think those come from the ocean, or from farmed fish?
Do not stock up on tuna fish. It's from the Pacific ocean and already contaminated. Look at the origination point for foods - the Southern Hemisphere is better.
About the fish bleeding from the eyes - that was 100% of the sample taken of herring near Vancouver Island. Fish is a big industry there and in the American Pacific Northwest area.
If the link doesn't work for you, go to the enenews website. Go anyway. The tanks storing radioactive water at Fukushima are leaking. A couple of days ago they said it was one tank, now it appears to be multiple tanks.
R36, are you saying that the fish are insatiable bottom feeders?
So should everyone quit their jobs and blow their 401k's on escorts & drugs? How dire is the situation here?
Dire but not that dire. Maybe a couple of decades.
Probably not a couple of decades if you live in Japan, Hawaii or Alaska. However, people won't drop dead all at once like you would think. First there will be kids with chronic nosebleeds (caused by dying white blood cells, later developing into leukemia) and chronic diarrhea, some unusually fast tooth loss and gum disease, then abnormally elevated levels of thyroid cancers and tumors. Kids first, then adults. A lot of miscarriages and stillbirths. Heart attacks in young and old, caused by cesium buildup in the heart muscle. Including babies, judging by what happening in Japan now.
It's the end of the world as we know it, and I feel like I'm having a heart attack due to radiation buildup!
I thought radiation made cancer go away.
Sometimes I believe this is pretty much the end of our world as we know it. I wonder if world leaders know this truth but refuse to give the information to the public.
Speaking of CNN, I caught a few minutes of their early morning show yesterday, about 6:30. I honestly thought it was a SNL skit. Those two people seemed as if they were not bright enough to take my order at McDonalds.
I'm quite ignorant about nuclear power, so forgive me...but if just one nuclear plant has the ability to wipe out life on the entire planet, why the FUCK are they allowed? That seems like an awfully huge risk to be taking for some electricity!
Why do we allow oil rigs to pollute all of our water ways? Energy, commerce. It's all about money. Wise people warn about these accidents, the fools in charge, never listen.
They never care as long as it doesn't happen to them. The CEOs and their children should be cleaning up the messes. Let them die of the radiation.
[quote]The CEOs and their children should be cleaning up the messes. Let them die of the radiation.
Best thing I've ever read.
Yeah? Well, now it's swallowing trees.
Now, now, now, children! I think we should all simmer down now and have a refreshing hot cup of delicious Sanka decaffeinated coffee! It's decaffilicious and will surely make all of those bad thoughts go away!
[quote]I thought radiation made cancer go away.
It's all in the dose.
mind-numbingly dire, so let's keep talking about the kardashians and ben affleck potentially sucking as batman...
R59, what do you think about the comments at your link. I found them to be reassuring
Jesus, what a bunch of ninnies on this thread. Please go kill yourselves now so that you won't have to suffer later.
Of course you do, r60, because they basically debunk all of this hysteria by pointing out rather simple fallacies in the article itself. The map they present as radiation levels in the Pacific Ocean? It's actually NOAA map of wave heights. Oops.
They replaced the video, dumbass, so that's not the problem.
If people don't know how serious the problem is, it's because they are completely ignorant. I'm afraid in the end, this will be much worse the Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Of course it is, R66. Because it's going to effect the entire planet.
Sounds like the commenters on that article are claiming that because the map is wrong, the whole premise is wrong. If they'd been following it as long as I have, they'd know this one guy and one map is just a drop in an ocean of info.
Until a few months after the incident, you could go to numerous international weather websites and get daily updated maps of radiation traveling around the world. They've all been closed to the public one by one. Canada was one of the first to block this info. People that worked for these sites claimed at the time that the various governments wanted to stop people from knowing the truth. The sites were all government run, or heavily dependent on government funds. You can check that yourself, it's easy to verify.
My partner just returned from Alaska with a hundred pounds of salmon and halibut. Is it not safe to eat? Damn, between this and Syria I am becoming paranoid.
Aren't there ways to check for radiation?
[quote] My partner just returned from Alaska with a hundred pounds of salmon and halibut. Is it not safe to eat?
It's interesting that someone a few posts back mentioned the symptoms for radiation sickness as chronic diarrhea.
My dad and a few siblings went on an Alaskan cruise last year (about a year and three months after the Fukushima accident) from Seattle, and on the cruise were all sorts of local seafood, not to mention all the shellfish, salmon, etc. they brought back from the Northwest.
The week he came back from the cruise, he came down with a chronic case of diarrhea that lasted over four months. His doctors couldn't figure it out, and nobody had a clue why he was having this problem.
Eventually it subsided on its own, but to this day, he doesn't know why he had it.
Now that the experts have weighed in, I'm wondering if he actually suffered from radiation sickness. He ate all kinds of seafood on the trip, and it wasn't like a one-time case of getting sick from seafood. This lasted for months.
PS, he's elderly, so that would explain why it affected him more severely than the others.
It seems that the very young, elderly and people with weak immune systems will bear the brunt of this disaster.
Another telltale sign of radiation exposure is a metallic taste in the mouth.
They should tell everyone to stop having babies...that will be the worst of it.
For fuck's sake, your cousin's mother-in-law's sister's cancer isn't the result of Fukushima. Perhaps if you lived in parts of Japan and were exposed to consistently high levels you _might_ see a certain percentage increase in cancers, but at the doses found here, you're more likely to get skin cancer from a sunburn.
Now this is news!
Enenews today says a reading of 1800 millisieverts an hour was found near tanks storing water at the plant. That's mostly beta rays, but if it were gamma it would be fatal within 4 hours.
I'll try to post a link.
One example does not make the rule... But lets remember that George W. knew that if Wall St. was reopened so soon after 9-11 that people would be breathing bad air that could impact their health at a later date.
The gov't decided that the economic interests of the country outweighed being honest with people about the air quality down there, and they reopened Wall St.
Now imagine that the entire Pacific Ocean is contaminated with radiation, and there's nothing that can be done to fix it. Imagine the possible panic, massive movement of people out of fear, economic damage to a variety of industries across nations. Yes, the governments of the world would hide this. I don't know if they are or not, but lets not kid ourselves that they wouldn't do that to their own citizens.
Enenews uses links from around the world such as BBC, Bloomberg, ABC Australia which has done some really good reporting all along, NY Times & others. They name their sources & provide links, it's not idle gossip. Go there & see for yourself.
YOU'RE ALL GONNA DIE IN THERE!!
God is in... His Holy Temple...
They're not hiding it any more. NHK "Newsline," which is the main news network in Japan, is covering this almost every day. They didn't for months. Something has changed. I read today that Japanese in Japan have been told it's a local problem & not to worry.
Today the story on NHK was 1800 millisieverts an hour outside of contaminated water tanks at Fukushima. I'm shocked they're actually reporting on this.
NHK is available on Cox in English on the Worldview channel. It's in the low 100's here. They have Newsline on at midnight Pacific time, also around 6:00 am.
[quote]Is enenews reputable?
From what I read, they are quoting the Wall St. Journal, CBS news and other news sources. So how much do you trust those other news sources?
Frankly, I think it's worse than anyone is letting on.
Frankly, we're expendable.
What is going to happen to us?
Well, I say that's what those little people get for losing my new car in the ocean!
Now reported by some scientist that radiation to be equal to 10 Hiroshimas an hour
"Scientist Patrick Flanagan, named by LIFE MAGAZINE, as one of the top ten scientists on earth, claims the equivalent of radiation equal to 10 Hiroshima's an hour, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, has/is being pumped into the sea since March 11, 2011"
Do they mean this is still going on now, at this level of radiation?
"I've been seeing herring with bleeding fins," Ms. Morton said Monday. "Two days ago I did a beach seine on Malcolm Island [near Port McNeill on northern Vancouver Island] and I got approximately 100 of these little herring and they were not only bleeding from their fins, but their bellies, their chins, their eyeballs. These are very, very strong disease symptoms."
We are doomed...this plus syria. FUCK!!!
Japan's revenge for Hiroshima and Nagasaki
I wonder if all the hype over Syria isn't somehow a distraction from Fukushima. If you can find people who live in Japan who are either blogging or on Youtube, you get a very different picture from what the mass media is presenting.
It's fucking apocalyptic.
R100, can you share any blogs we can follow?
[quote]Scientist Patrick Flanagan, named by LIFE MAGAZINE, as one of the top ten scientists on earth, claims the equivalent of radiation equal to 10 Hiroshima's an hour...
Patrick Flanagan is a quack. He's responsible for the Pyramid Power craze in the 80's and 90's and a bunch of other wacky ideas. He certainly doesn't have any expertise in nuclear science.
I really want to go back and visit Tokyo - but I'm seriously concerned about my health long term. Would it be okay to visit? Should I avoid eating sashimi?
R100, Fukushima-Diary is a really good blog by a Japanese guy who was been collecting info since the beginning. He left and is now living in Eastern Europe. He takes donations to support his blog, no corporate sponsorship.
Another one is ex-skf dot blogspot dot com. He's a Japanese speaker. His blog used to be about financial info but is now mostly about Fukushima. It's well done and not sensationalistic.
These guys will explain the difference between news articles that are accurate and the ones full of scientific misinformation, like the recent "4 hours exposure equals death" claim repeated everywhere recently. The radiation leaking from the water tanks is mostly beta. Gamma rays go through buildings. They are x- rays and much more dangerous, beta is mostly absorbed through skin contact or eating or breathing it in as dust).
I saw a feature on NHK a couple days ago about saki - it's made out of a particular type of rice that has been in short supply since 3/11. Now the manufacturers are raising saki prices due to shortages.
I wouldn't eat fish or seaweed at all if I went there. Seaweed is a big radiation absorber. So is horseradish. It's said food from Fukushima province is still being sold as prepared food to schools, nursing homes and hospitals, and at least some restaurants. Green tea also comes from an area that was heavily contaminated and the local governor has pushed selling it anyway because it's a local trademark.
I can tell you that the alert levels must be the same hightest level for the last 2 and a half years and the whole North Pacifc Oceam must be totally contaminated!! See the Sea current map, Alaska, Canada, America, Hawaii.....CONTAMINATED!!
I saw Scientist talking that contaminated water won't delute with sea warter. They keep remaining highly contaminated and traveling all over Pacific!!
Kharma is a bitch. Maybe Japan is suffering now for the actions they took on 12/7/41 and their inhumane treatment of thousands of prisoners of war they abused during WWII.
Just saying. Yeah Hiroshima and Nagasaki were a bitch but the US didn't even know about the POW camps and how our soldiers were treated at that time. What goes around comes around.
[quote] Should I avoid eating sashimi?
Seriously...if you know some Japanese, then you think that Japanese innocently sell & buy & eat staff without measuring them since 2011? People in Tokyo, as long as I know, are kind of mad about it. Sellers would be madly crazily accused if they sold something not allowed.
Just avoid eating anything too cheap. They are'n even from Japan and they are what most Japanese avoid buying. They are from China, Korea...highly contaminated. United States already BANNED importing Korean Seafood.
Hell, I'm even looking at local produce with a jaundiced eye; lots of rain, this summer. I try to buy from South America, though I doubt that makes any difference.
Then you're an ignoramus, R110.
Seriously, do you people have any idea of how radiation works? The dangerous stuff is from heavy metals, which when dispersed in seawater settles to the bottom. Bottom and/or filter feeders may eat it and it may work its way up the food chain from there, but it's highly unlikely to be falling in rain on your local crops. That's only possible if there is massive airborne release, such as from burning or explosions. There haven't been any airborne releases from Fukishima since the initial exlosions several years ago.
Shhhh R111. Rumors and hyperbole are a faster travelling currency than fact and reality.
"Radiation Readings near Fukushima:"
Tim Mousseau, professor in the Department of Biological Sciences at University of South Carolina, "...There's suggestions that there might be pockets of high contamination that get carried relatively intact across the ocean, so these have the potential to lead to some contamination...
I think there will be measurable amounts of radioactive cesium hitting the West Coast..."
Arjun Makhijani, Ph.D. in engineering (specialty: nuclear fusion), from the University of California at Berkeley, and President of Institute for Energy and Environmental Research: For the long term, my biggest concern is that the huge source of radioactivity that is present in the molten fuel at the bottom of these reactors, and the spent fuel pools, would wind up in the ocean.
The health of the entire Northern Pacific is at stake... It is the largest instance of radioactive marine pollution in human history.
The context for this story is that Tepco officials and the Japanese goverment are claiming the radioactive contamination is staying within the bay immediately near Fukushima, even though scientists say that is impossible. South Korea has banned Japanese fish imports, and many SK consumers aren't eating fish at all, now. SK says they don't believe Japanese safety claims. With good reason, as Tepco and the government have been caught lying red-handed many times already.
Meanwhile, the government is now planning to sell Fukushima beef again. The Asian diet in general is very heavy in fish. If the Pacific is contaminated enough that fish can't be sold, food prices will skyrocket and there will be serious food shortages. There really isn't a cheap substitute for local fish. This is a major food security issue and economic issue in Japan. What happens to local stock markets, when people realize the food is inedible? Will there be a general panic?
Read the comments on the story, as usual, more informative than the article itself.
And the J-govt is pledging over $1.5 billion for the Olympics, $470 million for Fukushima cleanup. Displaced people are still living in temporary shelters even now. No money available to relocate them.
At a party on Saturday I had a long conversation with someone high up in the food industry who said that most U.S. West Coast runs stocks are now showing up with discernible radiation levels. She said it wasn't clear yet whether it was due to radioactive drift from Fukushima or because tuna themselves are so migratory.
my brain literally shuts down when i think about this. i mean, there is nothing we can do. we will all be touched by this if we haven't already. and there WILL be another strong earthquake there...
I feel so helpless I just have to stop thinking about it. Do you think Potus is being briefed on this? Do you think there is anything we can do?