Only because they count church tithing as "charity" when it is not.
exactly- take away the money they give to joel osteen so he can buy a new 10 million dollar mansion, and i bet you ANY amount of money blue states give more to actual charities, like the ones that are trying to cure cancer and shit.
[quote]Only because they count church tithing as "charity" when it is not.
Utah shouldn't be included.
Churches are not charities, R3. They are religious institutions.
Did they really use tithing as descriptions of charity or is someone just guessing that? I admit it flummoxes me that Repubs give more than Democrats, as it goes against the very nature of "what's mine is mine" Republicans and "help your fellow man" Democrats.
r5, you can write off tithing on taxes as charitable giving, so of course it was used in these calculations. why do you think utah has the highest per capita giving? because if you don't tithe your 10% (plus), you are kicked out of the church and everyone you've ever known is told to cut ties with you. they don't fuck around about the tithing, those mormons.
The red state numbers are obviously church contributions. No, they don't count.
There is one point in favor of higher red state giving. Since those of us in the blue states contribute so much more to the country in taxes, our tax dollars get sent to the red states. They're not paying for their own government services so they have money to give to their churches.
Finally, South Carolina has something it can be proud of.
The issue isn't whether church charities should or shouldn't be counted (although that's a question worth asking).
The issue is explaining why blue states would appear more "generous" than red states.
The explanation is that blue states are more religious.
They do count R7, you have misread the study.
I might add that they expect something in return for tithing too. This isn't CHARITY in any meaningful sense of the term. Religions don't do real charity, particularly not the Mormons.
I'll count their church contributions when they count the money I give strippers to entertain me. It's the same thing. Money in a collection envelope=money stuffed down a jock strap.
Charity shouldn't count paying the rent, decorations, and paychecks of the staff at the place you hang out on Sunday.
The Mormon Church gets 10% of each Mormon's income. That counts in these calculations. Some of that money goes to people in need. Most of it goes to fund their recruiting missions and to pad their coffers. They have massive amounts of wealth.
Bet that's the first time that "Alabama" and "generous" have been used in the same sentence.
The "people in need" are required to peform services to get that money. It is not "Charity" even in its charitable component.
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