I've been reading this great thread on Reddit where people are sharing their industry secrets anonymously. Lots of interesting stuff, including some Hollywood insider info.
"I work as a script doctor; I have so much dirt on hollywood and the entertainment world...
As this won't be seen by anyone because we're seven hours in: Katy Perry is nothing like you think; Every funny person in hollywood has a joke writer and that includes Mistress Lawrence; All those cool indie movies with comedians? They're studio movies paid for through complex subsidiaries; No one is making movies for you - all these super hero films are aimed at China; Not a single studio is worried about irrelevance, Netflix or the like, it's an excuse to be lazy in all honesty; Scientology are far more ingrained than you dare to imagine; Porn stars turn up in every party; most those celebrity marriages are shams; There's a lot of hardcore religion out here; Rape, fuck loads of rape; Every studio is planning a kickstarter project; A surprising amount of actresses slept there way to the top; Elisabeth Moss is the nicest person you'll ever meet.
I could go on for so long."
What are some of your industry secrets?
Do you REALLY want to take the word of a "script doctor" with that level of grammar?
Script doctors are brought in to spice up a story or fill in the gaps, not to see that the commas are placed correctly, Miss Brooks.
R1, he explains the grammatical errors in his subsequent post.
Allow me to clarify. These posts on Reddit asre for general entertainment and informational purposes. They have not been vetted by experts, and in no way should be seen as the gospel. Your mileage may vary.
OP, Please post more info on the industry.
From your same link,
"The Olive Oil Industry is controlled by the Mafia. In 2007 only 4% of Italian olive oil leaving Italy was actually pure olive oil. Fake olive oil has the similar profit margins as cocaine trafficking with none of the risk. About 70% of the olive oil that comes into the US is thought to be a fraud.
I never did understand why Don Vito Corleone's 'front' business was in Olive Oil, this explains everything.
My grandfather is from Benevento, Italy, where most olive oil comes from. He's been telling me for years that olive oil is a scam. I always put it off as another one of grandpa's crazy theories..."
There has been a decent amount of media about how much of the olive trade is a fraud and adulterated. Hell, here is a link to a NPR piece. It is hardly a crazy theory.
R5, Thanks for the link, and what would I do without DL. So many stories to uncover, so little time.
If you want real olive oil, go with Palestinian olive oil.
Most Americans are uneducated and don't know where the good stuff is, so they buy the garbage coming out of Italy/Spain not knowing they're buying an inferior product. Importers count on American ignorance to sell canola oil mixed with some olive oil.
Was this shit written in crayon? There is no real dish here. Katy Perry is nothing like you think? Who the fuck sits around thinking about Katy Perry? Pacific Rim broke the box office record in China with a take of 9 million in one day. Are we really to believe that these movies are being made for the Chinese? The poor sods who live in the hills of Fukijan province hang a sheet on a rock and make shadow puppet movies for entertainment. And who the hell is Mistress Lawrence?
JLaw r8. Though if her jokes are all written for her it would give her haters something to choose from about her being a fake.
This is beyond ridiculous. Such insight. Who gives a fuck if Katy Perry is not what you think. What the fuck is that supposed to mean. Cryptic bullshit that tells you nothing.
[quote]Katy Perry is nothing like you think? Who the fuck sits around thinking about Katy Perry?
Hell, I've seen her a couple of times at the airport and I didn't even think about her in the moment I saw her.
Nothing like you think? WTF does that even mean? The only thing I think when it comes to her is that she's human. So is she in fact reptilian? Is that what this dumbass means?
[quote]Katy Perry is nothing like you think;
Wow, that's helpful. What juicy specific gossip!
What the hell is "fake" olive oil made from??
I find that one really hard to believe...
You could try reading blind items on Lainey Gossip, Blind Gossip and Crazy Days and Nights. I used to doubt them but the ones that were revealed turned out to be true so now i pretty much believe all of them and it shows just how corrupt the industry is
This says it all.
Joe Jonas sex tape
Beyonce pregnant for the second time.
Billy Idol going blind.
How do people verify all revealed blind items are true? Most of them can't be verified ESPECIALLY the ones from CDAN.
I think you're on to something, R10. That would be some scoop. 'All of your favorite celebrities are actually Reptilians.' The Scientologist Cabal is working on subliminal programming techniques that will be included in future film releases, hence their desire to control Hollywood.
By fake, they mean it's mixed with other, more inexpensive and inferior oils like canola. So when you see "Pure olive oil" on the label, chances are it's a lie.
Lainey Gossip is an annoying cunt. But I don't mind her as much now since I saw on here she's an Asian beauty.
Laugh if you must, but LA has long been know as the home of the Lizard People and the center of their underground city.
I've read on DL a few times that Katy Perry is an absolute cunt behind the scenes. So I guess that goes against her bubbly, one of the girls persona she sells to the world.
Even if Jennifer Lawrence has someone who gives her funny lines to use in interviews, it's clear she's pretty naturally funny. Just look at her reaction when Jack Nicholson surprised her after that awards show a few months ago.
Lainey's obsessed with Henry Cavill, so she's been rather vicious towards him because she can't have him.
R15, Check the NPR link after my post on fake virgin olive oil. Some of it isn't even made in Italy, that which is undated is old, chemicals and coloring agents are added to virgin oil, only a small per cent has any healthful benefits, and it's really not worth the inflated price.
Sex tapes, fake pregnancy bumps, congressmen being outted, etc... Nothing ever comes to light. If it's an important enough secret, someone will buy someone off before anything goes to press. The only time stuff comes out is when someone is being left out to dry. That's the only way, for example, that the cockgobbler Congressman Aaron Schock will be outted. He's pissed off the party establishment and they're more than willing at this point to let something like a video of him going down on his boyfriend Congressman Adam Kinziger come to light.
OP, Does the writer give any specifics on who is undercover Scieno in entertainment?
Maybe Hannah Anderson is unable to display appropriate emotions given her situation because she was actually replaced with a Reptilian before she was rescued.
Undercover Scientologist... They don't need to be undercover. They're too powerful for that. They might have spies in the over cabals, I can see that. They have to get the blackmail dirt that they use on celebs to make them join somehow. Of course, not all are blackmailed. Some are just literally certifiably insane. I work on the fringes of the industry and I've seen what being cut off from the real world by being surrounded with a gaggle of sycophants can do to someone's psyche.
There's the Scientologists... The Gay Mafia... The Studio Executive Pedophile Ring... the list goes on and on.
R19 Stop kissing ass. She is not your friend and she never will know you exist.
Yeah, r19. Why in the world would you think a young, bright, cheerful, unaffected and talented actress like Jennifer Lawrence would know a joke if it bit her on her well toned ass? You miserable ass licking toady:)
Is anyone interested in the stupid things said by a politician, the scam that is Christian Internat'l Charity, or the chain restaurants that microwave almost all of the food?
"Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but for years the (Conservative) Prime Minister of Canada's wife has been having a lesbian affair with a woman from the RCMP and it's an open secret in the media here, but no one will say anything about it because evidently we aren't as salacious as our neighbors to the south..."
Someone mentioned that on here, r29, in one of the decent gossip threads we used to have.
The Canadian media gets pretty fucking sniffy about the "we just don't care about that stuff; it's not important" personal life stories.
In reality, they are bought and paid for. Many stories should have been reported, but weren't.
Bernier only came to light because he was careless with classified info. The media never truly investigated why he was screwing a Hell's Angels associate.
Read the response from the former actress. Apparently, there's a shit ton more rape in Hollywood than you'd think.
Stick wit California olive oil.
Since M Obama presented Affleck with best movie Oscar, nothing, nothing is going to surprise me.
Scientology is not powerful, they do not have undercover people in Hollywood, they brag about everybody they do have. The organization doesn't get the dirt on celebrities to make them join, they use the dirt the celebs spill on themselves in their auditing sessions to keep them from defecting.
Jennifer Lawrence is not now, nor has she ever been "funny". Teen girls might think she is, but they are wrong.
[quote]Apparently, there's a shit ton more rape in Hollywood than you'd think.
Why would we be thinking about rape in Hollywood in the first place? Or Katy Perry, for that matter? The post was deleted anyhow.
I will break down the problems with the post OP pastes and explain why it is bullshit.
[quote]A sample: "I work as a script doctor; I have so much dirt on hollywood and the entertainment world...
Skipping that part, because it spoils the problem. If you know what's what, that line alone gives away that the poster is a fraud.
[quote]As this won't be seen by anyone because we're seven hours in: Katy Perry is nothing like you think;
Anyone who has seen any film about Hollywood can suppose that a star is different in person than they portray themselves on screen. But I'll even allow that this person has anecdotal access to Katy.
[quote]Every funny person in hollywood has a joke writer and that includes Mistress Lawrence
Sort of true but not hard to know. I am willing to accept this person works in Hollywood.
[quote]All those cool indie movies with comedians? They're studio movies paid for through complex subsidiaries;
You can garner this by reading the trades, but more pieces are coming together that this poster probably works in Hollywood in some capacity.
[quote]No one is making movies for you - all these super hero films are aimed at China;
Stupid, incorrect generalization. Films are aimed at China no more than they are aimed at Japan or France or Russia or any other major foreign market. And they have been since forever. With villains for major tentpole pictures crafted so as not to offend. In the 80s, the villains du jour were nations where Hollywood couldn't distribute films (Soviet Union, South Africa). Now that list has shrunk to, what, North Korea? So you see bad guys du jour who would offend no one (Neo Nazis, businessmen). China has merely bought the right not to be offended because it has a domestic film market now and can set conditions for access to it. But studios won't want to piss off the Chinese audience anyway so self-censorship would take care of it anyway.
[quote]Not a single studio is worried about irrelevance, Netflix or the like, it's an excuse to be lazy in all honesty;
This is correct. Studios know money is good and going to keep being good. Anxiety about film performance is evergreen; trends come and go and everyone is terrified that the current trends are losing steam. Same ol same ol.
[quote]Scientology are far more ingrained than you dare to imagine;
For this guy to consider this statement worth saying, it tells me a lot. It tells me he is young and new-ish to the business. He was surprised by the extent to which Scientologists work in the business and is presenting it as if it is drama, because it is new to him. It is not new. There are major casting directors, and acting coaches, and lots and lots of actors who are Scientologists. If they are good, they get work. If they are bad, they don't. None of them cause problems. Sometimes an actor will refuse to make a joke about Xaxax so you cut it. Business as usual. Zzz.
[quote]Porn stars turn up in every party;
Very true. I think he goes to parties.
[quote] most those celebrity marriages are shams;
Wow, does he read US Weekly?
[quote]There's a lot of hardcore religion out here;
I don't even know what this means.
[quote]Rape, fuck loads of rape;
He goes to a lot of parties and hears gossip.
[quote]Every studio is planning a kickstarter project;
An exaggeration but another piece of the puzzle.
[quote]A surprising amount of actresses slept there way to the top;
SKY BLUE WATER WET
[quote]Elisabeth Moss is the nicest person you'll ever meet. I could go on for so long.
I am sure he's met E Moss and I am sure this is true, but it tells me even more strongly that he isn't a "script doctor."
But back to the first giveaway that he isn't a "script doctor": he calls himself a script doctor.
No one calls himself a script doctor. And no one who doctors scripts considers himself a script doctor. It is a task, not a career. People who doctor scripts are screenwriters, who take a gig to rewrite a script on a short time frame for a lot of money and no credit. But they do not consider themselves (CONT')
(CONT'D) any more than an actress who gets set up with a rich guy for a night for ten grand considers herself a prostitute. Would she call herself a prostitute? No. She'd call herself an actress. Any "script doctor" would call himself a screenwriter.
But other people call people script doctors. They also meet actresses, and learn dirt, and go to parties, and are shocked and surprised by things that anyone who has been in the business long enough would not even realize could be considered gossip. They are assistants. This guy is an assistant. He decided to call himself a "script doctor" to give himself more Reddit cred. I'd put money on it.
LA guy, weirdly enough throughout that I was thinking that you seemed to agree more than disagree with that guy, and believe it or not, some people call a spade a spade and don't always sugar coat what they call their trade.
We're still waiting for some real gossip here.
Honey, I wasn't saying he was wrong, I was saying he was an assistant who tried to pass off what little he has learned in his 6 months behind-the-scenes-adjacent by calling himself a "script doctor."
Virgin Olive Oil is really a BIG WHORE!!!
r40, not to be a dick, and I'm no insider, but if he was trying to raise his profile, why pick script doctor?
Why not pick something that gets more respect, like 1st AD or craft services?
Maybe he thought it sounded cool or insidery. It is one of the few titles you can give someone that itself indicates All Is Not What It Seems. You're an executive? Who cares. Oh but no -- I am a Hidden Hand you have only heard tales about. I am the puppetmaster behind your favorite movies. I mean, I have no way of knowing for sure.
[quote]Why not pick something that gets more respect, like 1st AD or craft services?
Is this a joke?
I like the cut of your jib, LA Guy.
LA guy you said this: "I will break down the problems with the post OP pastes and explain why it is bullshit."
Ok, whatever. I'm out.
This thread started off rather weakly and has devolved into serious LAME.
I could care less about the hollywood crap but the rest of that reddit thread is interesting.
John Travolta is not actually the pussy hound that his publicity has been spinning all these years.
There's trouble in paradise for Liz and Eddie!
It may just be the pot, coke, Oxy and mai-tais talking but MOTHER FUKING "BLURRED LINES" IS THE BEST MOTHER FUCKING SONG EVER MOTHER FUCKING RECORDED in the history of music. I love THat Fuckin song!!!!
Blurred Lines... you wanna get nasty?
HELL TO THE YEAH MOTHER FUCKER!!!!!!!!!!
What a night! Best night evah, bitches.
Sorry I had to share.
ald,ad[oqec Wooooooo hooooooo.....
R51, If you really think "Blurred Lines" is the best song in recorded history, then you are beyond stoned. I hope you're kidding about the oxy, that shit is bad news. I'm glad you're having fun, but be careful. I'm sure you don't want to end your night in either the hospital or the morgue. Oxy and coke have the potential to quickly put you underground.
From the Reddit thread:
"I refurbish cell phones for a living. Part of my job is clearing data before passing the phones onto the testers. For the sake of your own dignity, clear your damn data off your phone if you sell it, donate it, or recycle it. We WILL go through your texts & pictures and pass your phone around and laugh at all the stupid shit you text & all the cringey pics you take."
I need a cock in my ass. I need one right fucking now,
Another interesting industry secret from that thread...
video editor for major porn company:
90% of every anal scene has to have faecal matter edited out. Baby wipes are stock piled on every single set. I have seen lots of porn stars shit themselves accidentally.... this is the life i chose.
[–]Diverdave76 4238 points 8 days agox2
I was a deep sea diver for 10 years in the Gulf of Mexico. Huge oil spills happen and are covered up hundreds of times a year by every company. The entire industry is in on it. The bottom of the gulf is a disgusting garbage dump. Every boat dumps their trash into the gulf no one obeys the laws and the coast guard doesn't enforce shit
I got a kick out of this one but don't know if it's true -
"SpamRove 6 points 3 days ago
Not sure if it's been mentioned yet, but for years the (Conservative) Prime Minister of Canada's wife has been having a lesbian affair with a woman from the RCMP and it's an open secret in the media here, but no one will say anything about it because evidently we aren't as salacious as our neighbors to the south..."
And this -
"A significant portion of strippers are lesbians who are very good at convincing you they are straight (and into you, of all people) for your money.
EDIT: I suppose this could vary based on country
[–]fire_marshall_ill 3 points 3 days ago
Yeah, I've known at least a dozen strippers personally, only two weren't lesbians. When I sold drugs, every stripper customer was a lesbian.£
I like LA guy.
Sarcasm detection is your friend here.
Thanks R60. I am a long time DL poster.
I am enjoying the best posts from the Reddit thread, keep them coming.
I can't think of anything I would know that would qualify. Well maybe this. The Oscars are very weird to attend. The area of the audience that the camera focuses on is a very small part of the Kodak/Dolby in person. Half the seats are taken by seat fillers at any time. They wait in a long line outside the orchestra side door and are waved in during commercial breaks. They wear ID badges at all times and turn them around to their back when they take their seat, so you know they are a seat filler if you are there when they sit down but can't see it on camera. You can see the lanyard thing up close. Everyone is out at the bar drinking the entire show. Star watching during the Red Carpet is terrible. The good star watching is if you skip ahead and hang out at these certain spots that presenters need to go past to get inside and go backstage. It's your own personal red carpet. Everyone looks disgusting in person but amazing on camera. I have seen bronzer streaked on someone's pumpkin orange face, and then I see him on camera and he looks good. It is very weird. The whole thing feels like it's over in about two seconds. Wolfgang Puck personally offered me pizza. Some years the hosts do little contests and games on stage between commercials -- "The person sitting in J99 just won a free sushi platter!" Oh, and everyone is short. Everyone. And that's even after they are wearing boots with their pants hemmed to attempt to conceal them.
A Weird one:
–]throwaway01123580 64 points 8 days ago
Executive assistant to a lobbying firm. I could be ruining my career here but I'm drunk and this has been bothering me for years. Things aren't just dirty. They're downright malicious. I don't mean individual entities toughing it out for themselves, either - although you can be sure that these are the majority. There is a massive, deliberate, collaborative effort being made by rather influential individuals to make what is essentially an indentured society. Warren needs to start emphasizing that this isn't just about greed. There is a huge mobilization of resources here for something ahead, the implications of which are going to be huge for the US. I'm just trying to get as much as I can to climb on top of what I think is going to be a huge crush.
I don't know how to prepare you guys. The ones who have it most correct are the ones who call for a complete rebuild of the government and what you consider the economy. But that still won't be enough because you can't identify those with power who aren't in bed with these sociopaths.
Ten years. I'm so sorry, guys. So, so sorry.
[–]ElizaElvira 14 points 8 days ago
Opera singer here. It's pretty much a known fact that one of the most famous living and working (though not so much as of late) conductors in the classical music world, who has conducted at the Met etc. is a pedophile.
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Yes, we love LA guy
[–]downtuning 19 points 8 days ago
Worked as a consultant for the oil and gas industry for 10+ years. Can promise you they all know climate change is happening (whatever public denials they may offer) and are happy it is, there is an obscene amount of oil and gas that is either inaccessible or difficult to extract due to Arctic ice, they are overjoyed at the thought of it disappearing.
r64, James Levine.
Well known problem. I'm a minor classical music fan (not opera) and I've heard about this.
Why am I not surprised that someone claiming to be a Hollywood script doctor is almost wholly illiterate?
[quote]I have seen bronzer streaked on someone's pumpkin orange face, and then I see him on camera and he looks good.
Classic Matt Damon, am I right?
Lots of good stuff on that Reddit thread:
"Most people who say this are ignored as kooks, but having worked in pharmaceutical research, I can confirm this:
We already have developed better, safer medicines than most of the crap currently on the market. However due to the following reasons, most of it will never reach the market.
FDA Approval costs a fair amount of money and time, and for a "new drug" to be approved takes bloody years. The slightest fuckup in testing and back to the beginning.
Money. If a new drug discovery is not going to be as profitable as the stuff currently on the market, it will simply be patented and sat on.
Research funding: Not enough of it anymore to properly explore all the possibilities."
Neither gaining FDA approval nor research funding are really much of a burden; virtually the entire FDA used to or will in the future work for the pharmaceutical industry and will thus rubber stamp whatever they want, and Big Pharma is awash in almost as much money as the insurance industry. Any viable medication you aren't seeing is simply insufficiently profitable--nothing more, nothing less, usually because it isn't patentable.
When certain drugs go off patent drug companies have been known to actually buy other drug companies that were planning on making the generic version of the drug. They pay tens of MILLIONS of dollars just to stop any type of competition
omg I just lost an hour of my life down that rabbit hole link...totally fascintating, OP!
I believe most of it too...the things I have knowledge of all rang true.
wtf is r63 talking about?
been to the Oscar rehearsals. now thats weird. nobody actors posing as famous ones while the real ones watch.
R37, Many hungry wannabes would sleep with anyone for $10,000. What determines who gets the money? Gorgeous hungry talent sleep with the powerful for work? Who just gets screwed; who actually gets the promised work?
More fun Reddit secrets:
"The majority of 'scandals' which come out about a celebrity are in fact fabrications created to cover up even more despicable behaviour.
Put it this way, if you think a certain shouty celebrity chef and various British comedians trying to 'break America' are in any way decent, then you've been had. Most of them are fucking freaks.
Don't even get me started on some well-known American Christian celebrities."
[R8] I sort of believe the China thing and here's why. Someone in the business told me all those blockbusters with special effects are made for 15-year-old boys in Taiwan.
[R64] I've known about that for years, but that's because I was involved in opera.
So true about the drugs thing. I'm on Dexilant due to ulcers. No health insurance will pick it up, it costs $107 for a 30 day supply. There is no generic. It's been out for years. I really don't want to be on it and want to get off of it, but am scared to because I still have some really horrific ulcer attacks.
Diet Coke is addicting as fuck. They know it too. They also know how it rots your insides. Everyone knows business is more important than people in 'Murica though.
[quote] Diet Coke is addicting as fuck. They know it too. They also know how it rots your insides. Everyone knows business is more important than people in 'Murica though.
You know they sell Diet Coke in every country in the world?
I think Katy Perry is a nasty cunt with no talent..so this is not true?
The Sara Lee Cherry Pie's aren't made with cherries, its really cranberries.
[quote]We're still waiting for some real gossip here.
You mean all that dirt about olive oil wasn't good enough for you?
All those cool indie movies with comedians? They're studio movies paid for through complex subsidiaries;
The only 2 "indie" movies I saw in the past years were Martha Marcy May Marlene (Fox) and The East (Fox). Both movies were similar. Obviously being Fox they are basically B-movies with a strong emphasis on photography and character development. Both I found very well-made, but in intent I would probably diverge, from both.
Cosmopolis probably was a true indie. It was produced by Paulo Branco.
all these super hero films are aimed at China
Just like Life of Pi was made for Asia in general. And won best picture (or was it best director? Can't remember).
Scientology are far more ingrained than you dare to imagine;
Do tell us more
Every studio is planning a kickstarter project;
Haha. The new indie. Why not, if Kickstarter is basically pre-sales + building an audience way ahead. I'll say it's mostly excellent marketing.
World War Z (the book) has the virus origin in China. (Three Gorges Dam)
The movie changed the origin to North Korea so as not to piss of the Chinese and possibly ban the movie from showing there.
North Korea buys zero movie tickets.
More from reddit:
I know a guy who owns a construction company. He hired a girl whose sole purpose on the company is to have sex with some of the personnel. Officially she's a secretary, but she doesn't have a boss, or responsabilities or anithing like that. She just sits at the office, chatting and viewing things on youtube... but some times the boss calls her and tell her to "go with John Doe to see some customers" and all the other employees really knew that he meant that she should go to motel with him. One day i visited this guy (i'm from anocther city) and he offered her as a city guide. Then he revealed her true functions on the company... and said that she loved her job...
This is truly, truly, truly depressing:
Hello! Cam girl here. I have a retail job, and am also a cam girl. I get treated better at being a porn star then working retail. The majority of my customers are very nice and very respectful. The regular job? Not so much. The retail is more demeaning then taking off my clothes for money.
OP here. I found the info about the funeral industry to be incredibly depressing. Most of us probably suspected much of what's discussed-- i.e. preying on the grieving-- but it's pretty mindblowing reading it all laid out in such frank detail.
I love this one:
- And I would do the same if I were in a position to. I try, in my own job. And from reading this, it has become pretty obvious that this is what some of the retailers did with my mother (we were struggling, and raising three kids wasn't that easy)
At one store I was authorised to give a "you look poor" discount of up to 20%. I was especially instructed by my amazing bosses to give this to people who looked like they might be students who are struggling.
I carried this policy with me to another store, and it became my own secret policy. If you were nice to me, I might give you the "you look poor" discount, especially if you had a bunch of kids with you, and your shoes looked old, because then I knew it would matter to you. I would chat with the customer and figure out if the "sale" price would benefit them and/or their kids in a meaningful way.
I am very, very good at figuring out if you are struggling financially without asking any pressing questions and without embarrassing either one of us. When you are paying $140 for a snowsuit for your kids and you have four kids with you, and you clearly get them what they need and neglect your own needs, I can tell, and you will be receiving a little unexpected help.
No one I worked with ever questioned me about this. If the customer asked why they were getting a discount, I would say that I had seen an upcoming flyer and the item was going on sale soon. That might or might not have been total bullshit. A lot of the time, sale prices are programmed into the computers the night before, so that's something else I would tell the customer: oh, it's coming up at 20% off! Lucky you! -even if it didn't.
If you were kind to me and you were a reasonable person, you would get exceptional service. I would hunt down that item you wanted, I would get it shipped from another store, I would even call the competition to find it for you if we didn't carry it, and get it held for you there. If you had an honestly heartwrenching situation, I would go to bat for you. If you had a genuine need, I was your guy. Retail is about 50% therapy, and I knew that, and the best part of my job was helping people who genuinely needed help (parents of autistic kids who needed clothes without scratchy seams, people who had recently lost everything in a fire or theft and were starting over, people who were buying clothes for a relative to be buried in). I would not leave you. I would make sure you walked out happier than you were when you came in. It was the only way to make that job something bearable, because it was a total shit job unless you made it matter.
If you were an asshole, I wasn't exactly mean, but you wouldn't get tomorrow's sale price today, and I wouldn't tell you it was going on sale tomorrow, either. Bare fucking minimum service. Nothing. A blank stare and a minimal exchange.
I didn't give the discount very often but I did see people get tears in their eyes when they saw they had money left over. Good enough. Maybe someone will say that this was "shrink" but I don't think so, I think it all evened out. You have to know that the prices in the computer are often different from the tag. And half the store was on sale at any given time.
If you tried to haggle with me, and you were pushy about it, you were not getting a discount unless the item was going on sale the next day, and I would make a fuss and call the manager to authorise it, even though I didn't need to do that. People who asked for discounts rarely needed them, they think they are playing a game, and that's not offensive in itself, but I can play too, and I will not give in easily, and the pushier they got, the less amenable I'd be.
Bikers (like motorcycle gang members) were the best customers in the posh department store where I worked. They had lots and lots of money and they saw through bullshit, so you didn't have to upsell them on anything, you just gave them options and they would buy things, often expensive perfumes. They just wanted to know where things were, and what was popular or what was best
Haha! This one made me laugh because I worked in a press-related business and most of what was happening around us was like this (drinking included, don't know about the sex - there was wishful thinking, that's for sure. didn't seem like the joy of sex). From the headlines I see, I believe more and more of the "news" is a mixture of what interests the individual reporter/journalist, what is actually happening, and most important than any other, what sells. The thing is that communication (why bother calling it "information"?) manipulates minds into actions (or even freezes minds into inaction), and that's not always cool. I'd love not to read the news, sadly I have to.
Journalist here (non-reporter). It isn't really a secret, but really more of a publicly-held belief that just isn't true.
We - as an industry and as individual newsrooms - are completely incapable of creating or maintaining any sort of cabal to systematically direct the news you receive. Seriously. Some people believe there's some giant national or local media conspiracy driving the news and there isn't, simply because our industry is too fucked up for that to ever happen.
Every newsroom I have ever been in is so disorganized that it is amazing a newscast or newspaper even gets out every day. Reporters do their own thing, editors/producers run around like chickens with their heads cut off, there's little planning and everything is getting in just under the wire. We seriously look at each other every day and say, "I can't believe we managed to get through another day."
And coordinating with other newsrooms to maintain some sort of business or idealogy-driven message? Please. The only time we talk to other journalists is when we are drinking or having sex with them (this happens a lot). We are incapable of talking about anything work-related because it brings out a bunch of white-hot hate between us. We'd rather be drinking or having sex. True story.
And this one:
-This one I know to be true because it happened to me, on the other end. I was making very little money and it wasn't always stable. Of course I was offered a "revolving credit". It was only for 750 euro (that's not a lot, right? Well it can be when you're barely making that same amount, each month - imagine what happens the month when you don't make anything), in addition to an 800-euro authorisation for an overdraft.
The guy at the bank took 2 hours (2 HOURS!!!!) of his time to sell me the thing. I didn't want to sign. He basically used menacing techniques and intimadtion to get me to sign. I was at a very vulnerable time, I had just moved from a different city several hundred miles away. Basically I was starting over and this was the right moment to go for the kill. In the end he left me alone in his office (I bet they do this to prisoners they are questioning) and when he came back I signed. I remember I wasn't signing, and when he left - when he came back I knew I would sign, not because I wanted to but just so it would end.
Some six months later I was owing 1500 euro to the bank. I remained in that situation for about 5 years before I was able to pay everything back. I wish for this guy to be in hell, but I believe he already is. He gave an online interview (with his pic!) detailing his personal finances and he vacations for something like 5k every year, to places like South East Asia. Whatever rocks your boat, dude. Just don't get arrested.
Here goes this, from another guy on reddit:
This is not going to apply to many people, but I hope it will help someone get out of the vicious cycle.
I worked at a payday loan company. You are probably thinking to yourself that you don't have any sympathy for the people who take these loans out, but elt me tell you that we PREY on the poor, disabled, and elderly.
What the payday loan companies want you to think is that if you don't pay then your check will be sent to the district attorney and you will be arrested. This is NOT true. This is a loan service and not for actual GOODS.
We charge 450% interest. Once you take out one you are screwed. The cycle is nearly impossible to break and if you are on limited income you can bet you will be a lifer.
State law says that after a certain time period we must take your check to the bank. We will watch your account like a hawk and be at your bank on your payday to get that check cashed.
If you are in the payday loan cycle then you go straight to your bank and stop payment on that check. A stop payment expires after 6 months. We know this. We save your check back and wait...on that first day after your stop pay is finished we are at your bank.
Even better than that close your account! Get a new one and that start making small payments back on your loan. They don't tell you payments are available, but it is required by state law.
People want to think that only the trash is up there getting loans, but NO. It's grandma, it's your wife, it's the 18 year old kid. Do them a favor, help them to get out of this. The loan company isn't losing. Don't let them scare you. Protect yourself.
I do not believe in god, but I know that there is a hell waiting for me for what I was forced to do to people.
Where is there an industry secret? I must have missed that. The recent blind item about Tom Cruise keeping a boyfriend hidden in his "study" sounds more reliable than any of this crap.
I don't think J-Law is as innocent as people think. She worked her way up the ladder really fast, and that included trading sex for parts.
Actresses who wear open-toed shoes on the red carpet (not counting the ones with no pedi/polish) are signalling a willingness to turn tricks and fuck for parts. Those who don't, aren't.
r32, I tried some CA olive oil, and I swear it was like grape seed oil. I don't think it had any olive oil in it at all.
Olive oil is gross, smelly old olives. Even if you do cut it with canola (rape seed, oh no I'm eating rape) it still tastes like smelly old olives.
So anybody know where to get real olive oil?
I bought some great olive oil from Trader Joe's. It was real. Strong flavor and smell.
R102 Mary, please.
Courtney Loves Dallas has nothing to do with Courtney Love.
Speaking of open toed shoes...I did an event a few years ago with JLo. Bitch has the most hideous feet I have ever seen. EVER.
I've said this a million times but can't say it enough.
Do NOT book hotels through contracted sites like hotels.com or expedia. Go ahead and look for the offered prices on those sites and then look for your desired hotels. If you see a great offered rate, call the hotel directly, quote the rate from the online site and see if they will offer it to you by booking directly. If you're paying Expedia $200 a night, the hotel may be getting only $120 or even lower. Even if the hotel's rack rate is $275 that night, you can bet they'll take $200 from you if they were only going to get $120 from you via hotels.com.
And there's no chance in hell that an online-hotel booker will walk into the hotel at check in and get any free perks like comp upgrades or anything. Why would you? You're not showing brand loyalty, and front desk agents see a lot of brand loyalty from regular guests and VIPs. And front desk employees are (or should be) very empowered to make their own decisions without being questioned by superiors. If I like you and I see you booked at full rate, I'll be happy to give you a comp upgrade if you're nice and it's available. If the hotel is slow, why not? Hotel employees enjoy getting the opportunity to go above and beyond anticipating guests needs. And hotel employees will as long as a) you're a nice person and b) you're not cheap, or at least don't act cheap.
I've been in hospitality for 15 years and you wouldn't believe all the stupid, demanding, cheap idiots I've seen who start out their stays badly upon checking because they choose to be idiots. I don't know why. Especially when "empowerment" is a term used constantly by hotel employees. We are empowered to make your stay better. But we pick and choose.
R111 what you say makes good sense, but there's one stumbling block, and I may be wrong about this. I was always under the impression the big booking sites like Priceline had a "reserve" of rooms, and the hotel has a limited supply, too.
So let's say I call directly to the hotel. They can say they are "sold out," but in reality, there are still rooms available that were reserved for Priceline. Do you know anything about how they operate in this regard?
Maybe I have it backwards. Maybe Priceline shows that nothings available, but the hotel "finds" something? I guess I'm curious as to how these hotels, and online booking sites handle the allocation of rooms.
Actors who wear bow ties on the red carpet are signalling a willingness to let their asses take part in a double penetration
Women's fragrance: the perfumed body cream is usually equivalent to the Eau De Parfum; perfumed body lotion is more like Eau De Toilette.
r112, hotels overbook if they have to. I have worked some absolutely terrible shifts when we were sold out and our in house reservationist was not there and forgot to cut off bookings from hotels.com. It was a holiday so about 20 people booked rooms at a cutthroat rate when we were already oversold by 10 rooms. There can be a lot of hands in the cookie jar taking reservations. Technically hotels are contracted to not walk a guest if they book through a third party because it becomes such chaos when doing the billing. What sucks the most about third party sites is that they "guarantee" a room. The word "guarantee" is kryptonite to anyone who works in hospitality because anything can go wrong (PS, they only "guarantee" rooms, not room types, so your king non-smoking with a view may actually be a parlour room with a pullout facing the next building).
Walking a third party guest is a nightmare and honestly they tend to be the worst, most demanding and cheapest guests. I'd rather walk a regular guest and bend over backwards to do anything for them to compensate for the mistake than a trashy hotels.com person.
Also, don't assume that since you prepaid that's the end of the cost. Yesterday I had to help a front desk agent with a trashy expedia reservation. We require a CC for incidentals, and sure enough her debit card declined (it authorizes $75 per night at our hotel). Also, our hotel is pet friendly, and her accompanying dog was cute but at death's door. She raised hell when we couldn't check her in and was pissed that we had to authorize so much money and she swore that she wouldn't touch the minibar or charge anything to her room. Meanwhile, her dog pissed on the lobby floor. That's why hotels need extra protection.
Also, don't forget, when you check in with a debit card, that money plus an extra $75 a day is held your entire stay and then charged at checkout. So if you use a debit card at a hotel when traveling, be very cautious that you have enough.
Working in hotels, especially my hotel, can be a really rewarding job. But I've worked in ostensibly nice hotels that are all smoke and mirrors. Many hotels are owned by real estate investors or property management firms who don't know FUCK about customer service and hospitality. When stuff goes wrong, it's a quick fix.
Hotels owned by actual hoteliers, i.e. Kimpton hotels (the best hotels in America right now) are always going to be the best because they are owned by people who started at the front desk or housekeeping and are now at the top.
I worked a year at a luxury hotel owned by a company called Hersha, and all the owners were Persian scumbags who demanded from all employees to be treated like high VIP level guests yet didn't know how to be hospitable themselves. I'm sorry if it's racist, but the fact is that a lot of wealthy middle Easterners are buying up hotels like crazy, jacking up roomrates, keeping employee wages low, not fixing problems and living in penthouses while rarely getting involved with the hotels they own.
Cunt, you work at a hotel in service. You can drop the attitude.
Hey hotel bitch - NEWSFLASH: Not every one can afford $200 a night. If you assholes are intent on assuming people who go to third party sites are "trash", why do your hotels choose to work with third party sites?
Perhaps you are wealthy (doubt it), but many of us are not, however, we still want decent accommodations. If I can get a 4 star hotel for $50 a night, damn straight I'm going to try. Thankfully, on the two occasions I've been able to, I was treated kindly and not made to feel cheap. Glad you weren't behind the desk.
I tried calling a hotel and asking for the rate I'd previously gotten through Priceline for the same hotel. They said no dice.
This thread deserves a bump. It could be fascinating if people would just apply themselves and be more forthcoming.
Come ON, DL! Be fascinating!
I've tried calling the hotel directly to get the Orbitz, Travelworm or Priceline price as well over the years. At least a half dozen times. It has NEVER. EVER. WORKED.
Do you have any idea how expensive it is to operate a hotel? People expect a clean, comfortable, bug free environment. They want the toilet and tub to be clean. They want room service. They want newspaper and magazines. They expect laundry service. They want a spectacular view and no noise. They want movies, minibar, free robes and slippers, fancy toiletries, and they never want to pay anything.
I can't even believe hotel guy would think calling and asking for the Priceline price would work.
All these hotels are under a CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION not to cut the third party out--just like talent agents, headhunters, or any other business where the middleman facilitates the deal. In showbiz, if you try to cut the agent out, you are blacklisted from every agency forever.
And the hotel people never know who's on the other end of the phone--is it a patron or a Priceline rep trying to test them?
R115 speaks the brutal assed truth. Bargain basement customers are the worst - they want to pay the least, expect the most, and leave a wake of misery behind them.
Fine. We've done hotels. Now, unless you can give me some scandalous, really cool information about some hotel, let's move on to another industry. 'K?
I like how no major Hollywood Stars get the AIDS anymore.
R12 Olive Oil is usually mixed in with hazelnut oil not rapeseed oil(canola)to create phony olive oil.BTW the Italians are not the only ones doing adulterated olive oil, you can include almost every other country that makes it!
R126 That pedophile opera person's initials are JL.As to why that fat fuck hasn't been arrested yet is a mystery to me.
R125 Who are the closet HIV positive cases? Joan Revolta has sucked more cocks than a glory hole fluffer,I wonder if he ever caught anything?
Not necessarily an industry secret, but any purchase over at least a few hundred dollars is highly negotiable. ANY purchase.
Who the hell is it, R84?
Even cars, R129?
Can we negotiate on a sticker price?
Is it expected?
I was a design & construction engineer at a submarine shipyard for 5 years during the Cold War. It's a classified secret as to why the USS Thresher went down in 1963; as is the depth, range, and maximum speed of a fast attack or ballistic nuclear submarine. And no, I will not tell you, you commie piece of shit traitor!
Challenger depressed me and scared me when I was a kid. I was about 8 when it happened. It just seemed like a horror story.
I thought the Thresher went down because a weld (braze?) failed on a pipe above a major electrical panel?
I've heard our subs can do in excess of 55 knots submerged. I've Russian subs are even faster, but they're noisy as hell doing it. Am I close?
There is nothing more insufferable than an opera queen!
r98's posting is true. Reporters can't coordinate a lunch for four, much less a wide-ranging conspiracy.
More media truths/secrets (nothing too exciting here):
Despite their Ron Burgundy reputations, TV reporters have a wide variety of intellects. Some are dumb as dirt and some are smart as hell.
Most of them under 40 are looking to move up to a bigger market. Most over 40 are just looking to hang on to their jobs and stay in a city where they've put down roots.
Some anchors really would read anything off the TelePrompTer ("stay classy") and news directors live in terror of the day there might be serious breaking news and one of these people may be on the air, forced to ad-lib for hours.
Many TV cameras are now run by remote control. A lot of technical glitches are the fault of someone who isn't even in the building.
In the past few years, Facebook has driven a ton of traffic to local TV news websites. Now Facebook has changed its algorithms (hoping to get business to pony up for more exposure) and it's really affected page views.
The biggest driver of traffic to a local TV news website is severe weather. A hailstorm or bad thunderstorm means $.
More meteorologists than you might imagine are skeptical of climate-change science.
The smarter sports reporters are looking to get into some other side of the business -- news reporter, general anchor, sales. Those jobs are disappearing. Before long the sports segments at the end of the show in many cities will just be clips narrated by the main anchor.
Your beloved local anchor who decides to retire around age 60 is actually getting pushed out the door because his/her face is getting to wrinkly and his/her salary is way too high. News directors know that it'll cause barely a blip in the ratings. People's TV habits are pretty ingrained.
R137, are you the same Ruski who is purportedly buying a Swiss watch on another thread? I thought so! You haven't tricked me! I will never tell!
I love hearing about the local TV news biz.
R133 - challenger disaster! What did the black box really say?
[quote] Not necessarily an industry secret, but any purchase over at least a few hundred dollars is highly negotiable. ANY purchase.
Reference books (many are well over several hundred dollars)
Almost any major purchase where the retailer is maintaining a slim margin doesn't have a negotiable price.
It was always my belief that the astronauts in the Challenger capsule were alive and knew they were dying as they plunged to earth. They were protected by the heat shield, and weren't burnt alive as we were led to believe. When they were finally found in the water, they were strapped in their seats, and had suffocated. Another line of thinking was that they were smushed on impact, but this line of thinking also had them alive as they plunged to earth knowing they were going to die.
They were alive until they hit the
water @ 200 mph.
Some of the stuff mentioned in that thread has been known for years. Current or former bookstore employees have talked about destroying books for years.
I'm still looking at that thread, but there are quite bit of secrets about the healthcare field that the general public doesn't know about it. To start off, medical malpractice incidents happen more than reported and many incidents are swept under the rug in ways in which the victims never realize it. Some hospitals don't do thorough background checks of employees. Many nurses barely made through nursing school and their academic records are often ignored by hospitals during hiring practices.
Keebler cookies are NOT made by elves.
[quote] What the hell is "fake" olive oil made from??
I find that one really hard to believe...
It was Tom Mueller of The New Yorker Magazine who first exposed the adulteration of olive oil in 2007. Here is a short article referencing the original article. If you want to read the entire original article, it is linked in the short article.
Most interesting point -- the profits from olive oil adulteration are "comparable to cocaine trafficking, with none of the risks."
[quote] checks of employees. Many nurses barely made through nursing school and their academic records are often ignored by hospitals during hiring practices.
Here's another one for you: nobody wants experienced nurses. Don't bother getting a master's degree in nursing; it's useless. Hospitals, clinics and agencies want wide-eyed inexperienced nurses. They can pay them very little money and bully them into working rotating shifts and into believing tales of "bonuses." Experienced nurses know how things are really run and nobody wants them around to explain to the new nurses how things are really run.
And: there's no nursing shortage and never has been one. There are plenty of nurses around but many are not working as nurses because they got wise to their employers BS and were replaced by lower-paid imported nurses.
Community colleges all want their own nursing programs because they make shitloads of money off of the people who take the pre-requisite courses needed for entry to a nursing program. For every 100 seats in a nursing program, there are about 800 people taking pre-reqs. That's a lot of people taking courses who will never be admitted to the nursing program. $$$$.
Never pay for an LPN program. The costs are not comparable to the money you will make. It will take you tears and years to pay off something that is not a college degree and which will most likely lead to part-time low-paid work.
Check and see if your public school district has an adult education program. They're a lot cheaper.
[quote] To start off, medical malpractice incidents happen more than reported and many incidents are swept under the rug in ways in which the victims never realize it.
Yes. It's because human error is the root cause and this is because hospitals are understaffed and everyone is harried. Also, hospitals will not support staff who report an MD with a bad attitude or who seems to be taking drugs. If you're a nurse's aide and someone reports they think you're taking drugs, it will immediately be investigated. If you're an MD who is reported because staff think you are taking drugs, just keep taking them.
We had one dr who quickly lost 40 lbs, had a profound personality change, was obviously high, sweating, talking gibberish and being a massive prick. We repeatedly told our superiors, both in nursing and in this dr's medical specialty. We got all kinds of excuses. "He took up running, that's why he lost weight. He's had family problems, that's why he seems nervous and preoccupied. He's been on call a lot."
One morning I woke up and picked up my local NYC paper which had the front page headline, "2 Docs from XXX Medical Center Found Dead Overnight." One was a suicide in a hotel room, the other was good old Dr Druggie Howser, who was found dead in the bathroom of the on-call room with a needle in his groin.
There was no investigation into all the complaints by staff about Dr Druggie Howser. It was just "a terrible tragedy."
Everybody uses Botox, fillers and gets plastic surgery in the entertainment industry. I worked for a Park Ave dermatologist who was very into publicity. He not only had local reporters coming in to do stories about cosmetic dermatology during sweeps weeks, he had reporters for national and international tv filing "reports" about cosmetic derm. He also did spits on shows like ET, Hollywood Tonight, etc.
What was so funny about it is that you would see a female (always a female) reporter doing a tease for the segment where she looks positively puzzled by all this newfangled facial chicanery. "People are PAYING high prices for someone to stick a needle in their face (or burn them with a laser). Can these treatments help you look younger? Is there a darker side to all of this face fiddling?"
The answer was always that there was no darker side unless you went to unqualified people for your treatments. But everything was fine of you stuck with the guys on Park Avenue!
The female reporter would talk wondrously wide-eyed about all of these unfamiliar procedures during her interview. When the interview was over, she got her free Botox injections, sclerotherapy, restylane injections, etc. The wide-eyed, child-like reporters were old hands at this.
[quote]he female reporter would talk wondrously wide-eyed about all of these unfamiliar procedures
Sounds like people Joan Rivers once described, feigning ignorance of the latest trends. "Well, that might be interesting to try, but I wouldn't know where to go."
Rivers said she always longs to reply, "Well, why not just go where you always go?"