- Don't forget that other queen, Zachary Quinto.
- [quote]And a higher “fun quotient” this coming season than last, which has been set in an asylum. The fun quotient, he said, “might be a little more welcoming to an audience” than last season.
This scares me, and not in a good Horror Story way.
- I used to live catty-corner from the LaLaurie house, buggy drivers stopping all day long.
- I can't wait for this.
- This is gonna be the show to watch this fall...
- I gave up on last season about six episodes in. It was so gory and over the top. I love stories set in New Orleans and especially if they involve witches. I'll give this season a go.
- Last season's finale was beautiful, esp. Sister Jude's story. Left me in tears.
- R8, I agree. I hate Murphy's work--usually--but he's delivered two really good seasons of horror, which is a difficult genre to do well. I'm excited for the new season.
- I hope Jessica Lange gets another big fantasy song-and-dance number like last season's "The Name Game". New Orleans is such a musical city, how could she not?
- I strongly hope she doesn't. If they do that every season it's going to be a camp schtick, and it will ruin the horror element.
- Hold me, R2, I'm scared, too.
- The anthology set up of AHS is ideal for Murphy because his shows usually go to shit in the second season.
- They should try and get Nicholas Cage as a special guest star.
- This is gonna be a great season. I love real history mixed into supernatural story lines.
- I can't wait for Lange.
- Christine Ebersole has just been cast. So now you have Lange, LuPone, Bates, Bassett, Frances Conroy, and Ebersole representin' the ladies of a certain age.
- Very excited for this.
I loved the first two seasons.
- All of those musical actresses are not there by accident. There will be singing in this for sure.
- They've been shooting in the French Quarter for the last few days -- the crew has brought in a lot of dirt to cover part of Chartres Street and non-period details have been removed from the block (which looks like this).
- Tacos, tacos everywhere, and not a sausage in sight.
- Interesting. I have been fascinated by that story since I was a little kid. I may actually have to buy into the hype and start watching.
- Wonder WTF they will find for Gabourney Sidibe to do in this show?
- R23 Think Gone with the wind.....
- Is Casey Wyman going to be in it? He was so hot last season.
- [quote]Don't forget that other queen, Zachary Quinto.
He's not in season 3.
- You never know, R26. He may pop up as a guest star in season 3.
- Pins & Needles
- What about the blond kid?
- Evan Peters is in the new season.
- Confirmed Coven Castmembers:
Jessica Lange as 'Fiona'
Kathy Bates as 'Delphine LaLaurie'
Lily Rabe as 'Monica Startville'
Sarah Paulson as 'Cordelia,' Fiona's daughter
Angela Bassett as 'Marie Laveau'
Patti LuPone as some religious right-wing frau
Emma Roberts as 'Madison'
- Gabourey Sidibe will play the important role of "Bossie," a prize Holstein owned by the coven and taken to market.
- Grey Damon is in this?
I thought he was on that horrible show Twisted?
- A bit short on the male eye candy.
- If Dylan McDermott isn't in this, naked, masturbating and crying, then I'm not watching.
- ....people responding to help discovered bound and tortured slaves inside ....
So, Kathy Bates is playing Paula Deen ....
- Pic of Jessica and Gaby on set
- Ugh, r40. I would fuck Jessica Lange like a steam piston if I got her alone in that suit with those black gloves.
- Hell yeah, R41 Jessica Lange is sex. She just is.
I felt the same way when Frances Conroy was made up as the angel of death last season.
- Lily Rabe about to be Rabeing her ass off
- Another Jessica pic
- [bold] 'American Horror Story: Coven' Adds Funnyman Leslie Jordan [/bold]
- I cannot wait for the new season!
- Leslie Jordan is icing on the coven cake!
- [bold] 'American Horror Story' Taps Danny Huston to Join 'Coven' [/bold]
FX's American Horror Story continues to add star power to Coven.
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'American Horror Story': Ryan Murphy Teases 'Coven' Clues in New Opening Sequence (Exclusive Video)
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'American Horror Story': Five Things to Know About 'Coven'
Showrunner Ryan Murphy took to his Twitter page Sunday to announce that Magic City alum Danny Huston has joined the ranks of the third season of the anthology series.
Coven stars Jessica Lange as a witch named Fiona; Kathy Bates plays historical personage Madame LaLurie, a Louisiana-born socialite and serial killer who kept slaves bound in her home; and Angela Bassett portrays voodoo expert/cult leader Marie Laveau. Coven tells the secret history of witches and witchcraft in America. More than 300 years have passed since the turbulent days of the Salem witch trials, and those who managed to escape are now facing extinction. Mysterious attacks have been escalating against their kind, and young girls are being sent away to a special school in New Orleans to learn how to protect themselves.
Wrapped up in the turmoil is new arrival, Zoe (Taissa Farmiga), who is harboring a terrifying secret of her own. Alarmed by the recent aggression, Fiona (Lange), the long-absent Supreme, sweeps back into town, determined to protect the Coven and hell-bent on decimating anyone who gets in her way.
AHS co-creator Murphy noted that Huston will play the boyfriend to Lange's Fiona and described him as both "sexy" and "dangerous."
For Huston, the AHS role comes a month after Starz canceled period drama Magic City after two low-rated seasons. Repped by ICM Partners, Huston's credits also include X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Children of Men and 21 Grams.
Huston joins a female-heavy cast that also includes Sarah Paulson, Denis O'Hare, Evan Peters, Lily Rabe, Patti LuPone, Emma Roberts and Gabourey Sidibe. Coven premieres Oct. 9 on FX.
- The story sounds fabulous. Anjelica Huston better have a cameo as The Grand High Witch.
- New teaser trailer
- Best one yet.
- Evan Peters looks like he did in season 1. Can't believe his vampire girlfriend is in this.
Anjelica Huston would have been a knock-off! She wouldn't even need makeup this time.
- Addie is back!
- I hope they burn a poster of "Hocus Pocus" in effigy.
- I love this show so much.
I'm glad Evan Peters is back. No Zach Quinto though -- that's too bad.
- Jessica Lange singing "The Name Game" last season was the highlight in all of television the entire year. It was the best.
- Episode 3.01 – Bitchcraft
(Airs October 9, 10:00 pm e/p)
A young girl, Zoe (Taissa Farmiga), is shattered to discover she possesses a strange genetic affliction tracing back to the dark days of Salem. Zoe is whisked away to Miss Robichaux’s Academy for Exceptional Young Ladies, a mysterious school in New Orleans devoted to safeguarding the few remaining descendants who share this unique bloodline. Harboring a secret agenda, Fiona Goode (Jessica Lange), the most powerful witch of their generation, returns to town, reigniting old rivalries with the Coven’s deadly enemies, the Voodoo.
Written by Ryan Murphy & Brad Falchuk; directed by Alfonso Gomez-Rejon
- That always ales me smile, R56.
- Keck's Exclusives First Look: A Coven of Divas
Sep 16, 2013 07:01 AM ET
by William Keck
Despite what you may have heard about Patti LuPone, the Broadway star won't be playing a witch on American Horror Story: Coven, which premieres Oct. 9 on FX. "Patti will be playing someone who will go up against [Jessica Lange's supreme witch] Fiona and her daughter Cordelia [Sarah Paulson]," says executive producer Tim Minear. LuPone's Joan Ramsey becomes a thorn in the women's sides when she and her sexy son move next door to Fiona's boarding school for young witches. "Patti's character is a bit of a holy roller who has recently lost her husband under suspicious circumstances," Minear says.
Lange has known LuPone for years and is excited to go head-to-head with a fellow larger-than-life diva. "I love her dearly," Lange says. "We almost share a date of birth." (Lange was born April 20, 1949, and LuPone the day after.) But which woman should we put our money on when the spells start getting cast? "Oooh," Lange says. "I'm in awe of Patti, but that's tough to call."
- LOVE this new promo teaser, I've watched it several times. Can't wait!
- Kathy Bates seems TOO famous to be in this.
- Whoops, sorry; that promo was posted above.
R56, I totally agree. That single scene made me a fan of the series.
- So looking forward to this, and the Donna Summer remix album, and my annoying sister moving to the other side of the country, all happening around the same time. It's going to be a great October!
- [quote]Kathy Bates seems TOO famous to be in this.
I thought that about Jessica Lange at first, too. But I suppose the unfortunate reality is that women their age take juicy roles where they can get them. And there's certainly no shame, or shouldn't be, in doing quality TV. FX dramas are some of the best series right now.
- [quote]Kathy Bates seems TOO famous to be in this.
- Boys, here's a cast member for you.
- One more.
- Trailer for the first episode!
- CANNOT WAIT
- Is this not going to be available on iTunes? It was available last season, but I can't find it on there and it starts in 2 days.
- Sarah Paulson's character will undergo a "dramatic evolution" this season.
Ryan also already knows the setting and storyline for Season 4 and has offered a role to SP.
this info from tweets
- First episode entitled "Bitchcraft." They're going for the campy jugular right out of the gate!
- Premieres tonight bitches! Grab your brooms.
- [quote]Kathy Bates seems TOO famous to be in this.
Have you seen the state of her career, hon?
- Washington Post review says that show is awful.
‘American Horror Story: Coven’: It’s witches this time, but the spell is wearing off
When FX first announced the title of Ryan Murphy and Brad Falchuk’s third iteration of their deeply disturbing yet undeniably tempting “American Horror Story” series (“Coven,” premiering Wednesday night at 10), I’ll admit I had to stifle a yawn and a complaint: Does it have to be witches?
We gotta lotta witches these days — some in pre-production, some in post-production and some already outstaying their welcome on other networks. The problem is, your modern TV witch is usually about as scary and/or interesting as a picked-over Halloween aisle at Walgreens; she’s all sexy spells, smoldering glare, plunging neckline, designer jeans and tousled mane — and sometimes she’s all that in the package of a sullen teenage girl. (Come back, Samantha Stephens, with your twitchy nose and immaculate living room!)
Watching the first episode of “American Horror Story: Coven” (which is all FX would let critics see in advance), I began to wonder if, during our nation’s shameful history of witch persecution, any of them were ever charged with the crime of being boring?
It could happen here. “Coven” is the first time “American Horror Story” gets started with the unmistakable feeling of timecards being punched, as an ensemble of big-name stars dutifully carry forward the show’s trademark fixation on style over substance. On “American Horror Story,” a specific brand of camp works best, but the tone is always hit or miss.
Jessica Lange has adeptly revivified her career by giving herself over entirely to Murphy and Falchuk’s most primal urges to build a high-end replica of the Hits-97.5 Fear Factory down at the mostly abandoned strip mall. Lange first played a scary next-door neighbor in 2011 and then, in last year’s “Asylum,” a sadomasochistic nun straight out of the worst Catholic-school stereotypes.
This time she’s Fiona Goode, “supreme” witch of a New Orleans-based coven that operates Miss Robichaux’s Academy for Exceptional Young Ladies, a boarding school for witchy teens. Though it has a storied history dating back to the 1790s, the school currently has only three students — make that four, as sad-eyed Zoe (Taissa Farmiga) arrives, having just literally sucked the life out of her boyfriend during a heavy-petting session. Zoe’s mother, aghast that witchcraft still runs in the family, has packed her off to Miss Robichaux’s.
“American Horror Story’s” most devout fans probably have stronger opinions than I do about whether the show is better or worse when it’s set in the present day. (“Coven” is set in the present, with flashbacks to the past.) Murphy and Falchuk clearly treasure a retro-historical feel, reaching for a ready archive of nightmare fodder that includes old-fashioned sanitariums, asylums, convents, rectories, orphanages, laboratories, boarding schools, jails; they fetishize any place where one can imagine unmitigated misery dealt by authority figures and secret psychopaths. The show is always better when it resembles a scratchy print of “Rosemary’s Baby” instead of some forgotten season of “True Blood.”
For that mood, “Coven” opens with a deeply disturbing scene set in the French Quarter of 1834, where the evil Madame LaLaurie (Kathy Bates, clearly eager to have some of what Lange has been having on “American Horror Story” these past few years) washes her face in the freshly harvested blood of the slaves she keeps in an attic torture chamber. That’s right — mere minutes into the show, viewers must take in the awful sight of slaves in variously gruesome straits.
“Bonsoir, my pets,” she greets them, while preparing a special punishment.
“Why are you doing this to us?” one of her subjects moans.
“Because I can,” the madame replies.
What better way to explain why “American Horror Story” is the way it is, shows what it shows? Because they can, and because we allow it to be. We reward its unhinged provocation and grisly depictions with the delight of our tweets and shrieks. As far as Murphy and company push things, we seem incapable of pushing back, or pushing the off button.
I confess that last season’s “Asylum” tested even my lapsed-Catholic tolerance with its endless church-themed deviance, although I did enjoy Lange’s over-the-top portrayal of Sister Jude. I came back several episodes later, in time to savor the scene where Lange performed “The Name Game,” a novelty hit song from the 1960s, but, overall, I just thought the show had become too pleased with its own sickness. Which is precisely the reaction Murphy and Falchuk desire; they seem to think that overdoing it is the only way to do it. And the minute you express your revulsion, you’re instantly not cool enough to watch the show.
On Wednesday’s episode of “Coven,” for example, Zoe and another student (Emma Roberts) sneak off to college fraternity party. After a few drinks, what’s the worst that could happen to these girls? Does your answer include “rape”? Then you, too, are onto “American Horror Story’s” favorite compulsion; the show seems to always be in search of a new way to depict sexual violation.
On the plus side, “American Horror Story’s” cachet continues to draw a dream list of talent, especially with this season’s demand for strong women. It’s as if two gay movie and Broadway buffs were sitting in a room shouting out random names of actresses they wish would do (or return to) “American Horror Story,” and, lo, it comes to pass: Kathy Bates! Angela Bassett (as voodoo legend Marie Leveau)! Gabourey Sidibe! Patti LuPone! Frances Conroy! Sarah Paulson! Christine Ebersole!
I’m sure they’ll all have great fun horrifying it up and pushing our limits, but to what end, really? At some point, a discerning viewer needs something besides repeat trips into a bad dream.
(one hour) premieres Wednesday
at 10 p.m. on FX.
- Okay, this is the GREATEST SPOILER OF ALL-TIME. See the second paragraph. This is going to be the campiest show of all-time!!!
- SO SO PSYCHED!!!
- [quote]Washington Post review says that show is awful.
You clearly don't understand the meaning of the word "awful."
- I'm sad there will be no Teddy Sears this season either...I want to do unspeakable things to him and have him to equally unspeakable things to me...
Having said this, I am so looking forward to tonights premier, critics be damned!
- "Lethal vaginia" sounds terrifying.
- Here we go. Five minutes in and I think the shock value from last season has already been upped.
- Wow. NOBODY'S watching?
- I'm watching! Jessica's bringing out the bitch and I love it.
- Evan and Taissa reunited. Fangirls must be spazzing.
I'm not loving it so far. This feels like a more hardcore YA novel so far.
- r84, most people are watching and are away from their computers. Wait until the show's over.
- Please disregard the redundant "so far."
I did LOL @ Jessica Lange's line about a sabbatical with Shirley MacLaine.
- Not liking it at much as the last two season premieres. Frances Conroy had like 2 lines - she'll no doubt be in it more, but it feels like they've just forgotten about her already, barely explaining who she is.
Gabourey's talent as a human voodoo doll is great.
- Alot of stuff was crammed into this jambalaya of an episode...looks like a season of fun to me! I'm in !
- The preview for the next episode looks amazing.
- I was pretty disappointed. I liked the first season and really loved season 2. This just felt kinda silly, not really any horror.
But I'll stick with it for a while.
- I think that was actually a preview for the entire season, r91.
- Best line..
"when are you going to die?"
- R84, it hasn't aired yet out here in the West Coast.
- No LuPone in the preview though, but it probably does cover the next few episodes at least. I hope Jamie Brewer gets more screen time. Loved her in season one.
Was anyone else thinking of Miss Chiquita or Carmen Miranda when Bassett first spoke? So much channelling! She'd make a great Aurora in Kiss of the Spiderwoman.
- It's over the top but fun.. Kathy Bates is going to give Jessica Lange a run for her money this season.
This show has become a lot more camp than it was in season 1.
- Agreed...the camp level is amped up in a fun way...and the look is way more glossy and colorful...all 3 seasons seem to have their own look and " feel"
- I love Jessica Lange snorting coke dancing to In a Gadda da Vida...on and the rosemary's babyish original music is cool.
- I'm a fan and will watch every episode But
I hate the Msdidon character and her storyline. Way too YA for me. This isn't the CW or the WB or whatever.
- "Eat shit, Kyle!"
We get it, Ryan. They're meatheads...
- Lange is really bringing it. And I love La Bassett as the voodoo queen. The students are meh so far, but Lange, Bates and Bassett more than make up for it
- Even the glorious Majel Barret was brought down by having to act with that horrid kid who played Worf's son
- I'm not sure how I feel about this one yet, but that's how I felt at the end of the first episode last season — which I wound up loving.
I'm on board. It does have a twisted YA feel, but I can get down with that so long as it stays unexpected and horrible and true to its own internal logic.
Am I an old pervert for sensing some lesbian tension between the girl with the killer vagina and the headmistress?
- Oh, and Kathy Bates is definitely giving Lange a run for it this season, r97. She was terrific.
Those two will carry the whole show on their backs.
- What is YA?
- Brilliant camerawork.
Murphy has said this season is intentionally campy and infused with lots of humour. To the naysayers, let go of the first two seasons and just enjoy it as great television. So far, it's the best offering I've seen yet of the new season.
The president of the Jessica Langa Fan Club
- Young Adult, R106
- More Sarah Paulson and less Emma Roberts please
- I laughed at Jessica's lines. You dropped your cocktail, and then that laugh. She's playing her perfectly.
- Emma Roberts was arrested for biting and assaulting Evan Peters during this. Remember that.
- Total setup episode, but I'm loving it.
Is Lily Rabe in more episodes, or is that? What about Frances Conroy? I really wouldn't mind her absence.
A human voodoo doll. THAT is awesome.
The potion thing is a total homage to "Death Becomes Her," which by the way is being made into a tv series for Bravo.
- Does Evan Peters cry?
- I want to pronounce this "Coh-van" like the dudes in"American Movie".
- This is going to be good. Jessica, Kathy and Angela amazing. Ryan Murphy adds a certain something different to each season. If this season allows Jessica to be a smoking, snorting, drinking,sassy cunt, then I will be in delighted.
- One thing has been overlooked in the history of witches. It was always women accused of witchcraft. This was very convenient for in a male dominated society, accuse a woman of having power beyond that of any man, caused panic in all the right people.
However, I submit that if witches do exist, they were/are mostly male.
- I'm going to have nightmares tonight.
- welcome to Hogwarts, can't wait to see the next episode!
- [quote]One thing has been overlooked in the history of witches. It was always women accused of witchcraft. This was very convenient for in a male dominated society, accuse a woman of having power beyond that of any man, caused panic in all the right people.
- why isn't Angela Bassett in the opening credits?
- I was kind of bored. And the way they played fast and loose with the LaLaurie legend was a real turn off. And, I may be wrong, but I believe there are no tours of the LaL house. I get it-it's a show, but it still irks.
- [quote]Is Lily Rabe in more episodes, or is that?
I'm assuming with her abilities as a necromancer, she might be able to resurrect herself. But then I figured she would be the one to resurrect Bates and Peters but it looks like Bates cannot die and Peters will be a zombie.
In any event, what I expected to happen was 100% off and that is why I love AHS so much.
Who was the hot asian scientist?
- Do you think any conservative Christian groups are offended by AHS? I hope so!
- my Jenny Craig group was deeply offended by Gabby Sidibe
- The scientist was one of the leads from that NBC series The Event. Ian Anthony Dale is his name - he is also reoccurring on Hawaii 5-0
- [quote] it hasn't aired yet out here in the West Coast.
I'm on the West Coast and was watching it when I posted. That's the beauty of satellite TV vs. cable.
- How'd I miss this story?
- Yes, R125, and he also played an Avatar in Charmed. He totally shoulda seen the witch thing coming.
- When will Lupone be on?
- Last season was too dark for me, but this season looks like it'll be fun. The young witches are pretty boring, but the rest of the cast I'm excited about. Lange, Bates and Bassett!!
- Did I miss something or was there a huge, gaping plot hole in the premiere? Wouldn't Lange be able to control the doctor's mind into giving her more drugs, like she did to get the free tour?
- Someone put R131 in a time-out.
- [quote]Wouldn't Lange be able to control the doctor's mind into giving her more drugs, like she did to get the free tour?
She needed the kickstart to juice up her powers, like when she sucked the life out of him.
- Fantastic first episode. Loved it. And it does seem to have a lighter tone, which is a relief after asylum. Kathy Bates was really great.
This season's premiere was much, much more exciting than the premiere of season 2.
- I just found season 2 so so harsh. I don't think I made it a third of the way through before I bailed on it.
- Wow, are you like, a fucking genius, R116? Like, who knew? It's been soooo overlooked that females were killed for being "witches."
- I enjoyed it. I still don't like Emma Roberts, but at least she's playing herself, more or less. I suppose there are things one can nitpick, but it's better than any of the new network crap by a wide margin.
Pearls are being clutched on ONTD because of the rape and slave torture scenes. Hello...it's horror, and camp horror at that. Apparently it's ok for the show to torture and kill straight white cisgendered men in their eyes, but everything else is "going too far."
- I loved it. I am so excited for the rest of this season, it looks so promising.
All the cast were great, Emma Roberts grated a bit but hopefully something will happen to her character to tone her down somewhat.
I was pissed when Angela Bassett's character just poisoned Kathy Bate's character in such a quick and easy way. So it was delightful to find out that she'd been buried alive for hundreds of years. I cannot wait for next Wednesday.
- Liky Rabe is a regular this season. Perhaps she resurrects ya Evan Peters' character.
She was great in her flashback.
Kathy Bates was amazing. I guess I've just seen so much of the same from her more recently I was excited to see her play such a nasty character.
- R131 Ryan Murphy and co. are known for their gaping (plot) holes.
- Is the character that Kathy Bates is playing based on a real-life person? If so, did Nicolas Cage really own her house?
- Yes and yes. But there are no tours of the LaLaurie mansion.
- Was LaLaurie really practice witchcraft? Was she killed by LaVeau?
- [quote] I was pissed when Angela Bassett's character just poisoned Kathy Bate's character in such a quick and easy way
I don't think that she was really "poisoned." I think that she was give a potion to make her into one of the "undead."
- [quote] Liky Rabe
- Though r140 definitely has a point, plot holes and inconsistencies are a RM trademark. I also, couldn't figure out why, as r131 said, Lange didn't just mind control the doc into doing her bidding in the first place? I also wondered what prompted her to suck his life force at that point in time. Was it out of anger, because she was sufficiently "juiced up" on the research drugs and coke, or because she needed his life force to remain youthful or powerful? I'm guessing this will be further explored as the series continues. . . At least, I hope it will.
In any case,I hope she was both smart enough or powerful enough to have covered her tracks.
- They've given Lange's character too many powers. This season will no doubt be filled with deus ex machinas because of this. Last season used the aliens in a similar way.
- No gays this year? That's disappointing. And I can't stand the teenage romance BS. Evan Peters was the most interesting in season 2, where he didn't have a teenage love interest. Heck.. he was interesting in season 1 too, before he and Violet got together.
- Man, the gals over in the formums at twop.com are NOT happy about all the rape on this show.
(Not that I think rape is fun or not awful, but c'mon, this is AHS--everything is awful!)
- There HAVE to be gays. Also, one of the witches must be a lesbian. My vote is Conroy's Grace Coddington creature.
- I loved how much Frances Conroy brought to her scene. She seems to be wallowing in the camp of it all. I also love how she puts her beauty aside for a good character role, she obviously is not vain at all.
Jaime Brewer is the best of the young witches. I'm calling it now. She was the most natural in all her scenes. And, she played Jessica's daughter in season one as though there was nothing to it.
Jessica Lange killed me in her coke scene! She's just too much and Sarah Paulson could not keep up with her at all!
Love Kathy Bates! I just do in general.
- [quote] No gays this year? That's disappointing.
Leslie Jordan shows up starting in episode 4.
- I know, R149. I just wonder if these people have any experience with the horror genre. Gory murders, torture, etc. are par for the course but a non-graphic rape scene (which is also a very common horror theme) is somehow worse? I'm sure they'll watch all season so they can complain and scold some more.
- Have it on DVR to watch today. Hope we get some Evan Peters ass and feets!
- [quote]I gave up on last season about six episodes in. It was so gory and over the top. I love stories set in New Orleans and especially if they involve witches. I'll give this season a go.
Oh for Heaven's sake it's make believe. Do yourself a favor and rent it. It's AMAZING and Lange's "The Name Game" is pure brilliance and only one highlight.
[quote]Jaime Brewer is the best of the young witches. I'm calling it now. She was the most natural in all her scenes. And, she played Jessica's daughter in season one as though there was nothing to it.
That kid is incredible.
- If Jessica Lange's character has all the powers, R147, which is what was said during the show, why does she need to Jaime Brewer's character's intuition abilities?
R149, I get what you're saying and agree for the most part, but the first episode did have four rapes. That seems extreme.
- R149 I just had this same conversation on lchat. They're up in arms over there. Can't we just enjoy the show? Triggers. For God's sake, it's a tv show. They raped her and she killed 7. I thought that was justice, but I like revenge. So sue me.
- Leslie Jordan will play a Truman Capote-type who's literary success is the result of witchcraft.
- People are outraged that no one is outraged that a guy was raped in this.
- Did we see any nudity? I can't tell.
- 'American Horror Story: Coven' Debut is Most-Watched Ever
"AMERICAN HORROR STORY: COVEN" PREMIERE EPISODE CONJURES UP RATINGS MAGIC
Most-Watched Telecast Ever of the American Horror Story Franchise
Critically-Acclaimed Miniseries Records 5.54 million Total Viewers and 3.87 Million Adults 18-49 Which Are Gains of +44% in Total Viewers and +39% in Adults 18-49 Over AHS: Asylum Premiere
3.5 Rating in Adults 18-34 Topped All Broadcast Competition in Primetime (8:00-11:00PM) on Wednesday It Could Rank as the Most-Watched Program in FX History When Live+7 Data Becomes Available
The Premiere Telecast and Encore Runs Combined to Deliver 7.78 Million Total Viewers and 5.36 Million Adults 18-49
NEW ORLEANS, October 10, 2013 - The premiere episode of FX’s critically-acclaimed miniseries American Horror Story: Coven (10/9/13, 10:00-11:12 PM) was the most-watched telecast ever of the American Horror Story franchise, recording 5.54 million Total Viewers, 3.87 million Adults 18-49 (3.0 rating) and 2.34 million Adults 18-34 (3.5 rating), which ranked #1 for the night in Adults 18-34 against all broadcast competition in primetime (8:00-11:00PM), and it ranked #2 in Adults 18-49 behind Modern Family. (Cable program rankers for Wednesday will be available later this afternoon.)
On a Live+Same Day basis, last night’s debut episode of Coven, “Bitchcraft,” posted all-time AHS franchise highs across the board for the American Horror Story franchise and marked gains of +44% in Total Viewers (5.54 million vs. 3.85 million) and +39% in Adults 18-49 (3.87 million vs. 2.78 million) compared with the debut of American Horror Story: Asylum, and an astounding +74% in Total Viewers (5.54 million vs. 3.18 million) and +90% in Adults 18-49 (3.87 million vs. 2.04 million) compared with the premiere of American Horror Story: Murder House. Coven also scored franchise highs in Women 18-49 (2.36 million) and Women 18-34 (1.47 million).
The premiere telecast and encore runs (11:12 PM and 1:25 AM) of Coven combined to deliver 7.78 million Total Viewers and 5.36 Million Adults 18-49.
Furthermore, if the time-shifted viewing for American Horror Story: Coven is in line with that of its predecessor American Horror Story: Asylum, last night’s debut of Coven could rank as the most-watched telecast in FX history, surpassing the sixth season premiere episode of Sons of Anarchy (9/10/13). The average Live+Same Day to Live+7 percentage increase for American Horror Story: Asylum was +67% in Total Viewers and +75% in Adults 18-49.
In Chapter 2 of Coven - “Boy Parts” (Airs Wednesday, October 16, 10:00 pm e/p) - Fiona helps Zoe and Madison deal with a horrible tragedy. Delphine LaLaurie struggles to adjust to modern life. Cordelia faces a dark decision about her family. (Written by Tim Minear; Directed by Michael Rymer)
American Horror Story: Coven tells the secret history of witches and witchcraft in America. Over 300 years have passed since the turbulent days of the Salem witch trials and those who managed to escape are now facing extinction. Mysterious attacks have been escalating against their kind and young girls are being sent away to a special school in New Orleans to learn how to protect themselves. Wrapped up in the turmoil is new arrival, Zoe (Taissa Farmiga), who is harboring a terrifying secret of her own. Alarmed by the recent aggression, Fiona (Jessica Lange), the long-absent Supreme, sweeps back into town, determined to protect the Coven and hell-bent on decimating anyone who gets in her way. American Coven features an extraordinary cast including Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Sarah Paulson, Evan Peters, Taissa Farmiga, Emma Roberts, Gabourey Sidibe, Frances Conroy, Lily Rabe, Denis O’Hare, Patti LuPone, and Danny Huston. Ryan Murphy, Brad Falchuk, Dante Di Loreto, Tim Minear, James Wong, Jennifer Salt, and Brad Buecker are Executive Producers of American Horror Story: Coven. It is produced by Twentieth Century Fox Television.
FX is the flagship general entertainment basic cable channel of FX Networks, a business unit of 21st Century Fox. FX Networks is comprised of FX, FXM, and FXX, its newest channel which launched in early September 2013. Launched in June of 1994, FX is carried in more than 98 million homes. The diverse schedule features a growing roster of critically acclaimed and award-winning hit dramas series, including Sons of Anarchy, Justified, The Americans and The Bridge; the miniseries American Horror Story: Coven; and the acclaimed hit comedy series Louie, Archer and Wilfred. The network’s library of acquired box-office hit movies is unmatched by any ad-supported television network. FX’s roster of acquired hit series includes Two and a Half Men, Anger Management and, coming in 2014, Mike & Molly.
SOURCE: The Nielsen Company, Live+Same Day
- So was it a "Death Becomes Her" tribute?
- Kathy Bates surprise introduction for American Horror Story 3 at PaleyFest 2013.
Geez, they announce that she was giving everyone a free car?
- I really don't understand these rape people. I'm friends with a few on Facebook. They want more open dialogue about rape, but no depictions of rape in media?
- Go to youtube and put in: american horror story coven interview
There's all different interviews of the cast.
- Gabourey Sidibe interview. OMG, she's going to die of a heart attack.
- Here are some of my favorite Q&As from Kathy Bates' interview with HuffPo. I like these first two because I think it shows a lot of maturity and class for one legendary actress to be so complimentary toward another. The next one is interesting because of the witchcraft vs. voodoo element that's going to develop throughout the season. I also think she does a great job addressing the racial element in the plot. And she'll be back! Love this woman!!
[bold]Between your costumes and Jessica Lange's, it's awesome.[/bold]
Oh my god, and isn't Jessica fabulous in this? Oh my god. She's completely done a whole other fabulous character for "American Horror Story" that's so different from her other characters. Ugh, love it. Love the high heel that comes out of the car -- what an opening! And in the rain with the umbrella -- just loved it!
[bold]I know you're friends with her. Does that chemistry translate on screen? Your characters are enemies.[/bold]
Yeah, we've been in things with each other. We did a movie together -- I did a small part in a movie called "Men Don't Leave" she did back in the '80s and we did a movie that we shall not mention [laughs] not too long ago. I like her so much and we trust each other. I love working with her and I feel so ... I don't know, I feel really proud to be in her presence because of the filmography she has. I've been a fan of hers since "Frances." They don't make them like her anymore. She's one of the real glamorous movie stars of all time. I was there when she got the award at the New York Film Society and she shares that award with icons like Claudette Colbert. I mean, come on, she's amazing.
[bold]What can you preview about the dynamic between your character and Angela Bassett's?[/bold]
Well, as you can imagine, we're off to a really ignited start. I think the battle lines have been drawn and you'll certainly see more in [Episode 2 and Episode 3]. Tim Minear had said in some press recently that the witches from Salem came down to the South and there's been an enmity between voodoo and witchcraft since then. It's important to note that I'm not a witch, so I don't know how I'm going to fold into all of this.
[bold]Is there anything too heinous you won't do? After last year, Jessica said no more caning scenes.[/bold]
Well, I've done some pretty heinous things so far. I guess I'd have to reserve judgment on that. I know there was one particular scene that I can't divulge that really made me weep. It was very upsetting. To think these kind of things actually went on, I mean people were tortured in those days. Horrible things were done, that's why they call it "American Horror Story." Part of the show is about race and I hope people don't feel it's trivialized because it was a heinous part of our culture and we're still fighting battles over race. It's a very serious and difficult subject to talk about and I hope that our show can do its own small part to foster conversation about race. It's entertainment, it's a fun show, it's a horror show, it's all those things, so I don't know if people will feel like it's not weighty enough to take on race. But I hope we can. I hope we can. Anyway, that's how I feel about it.
[bold]Ryan often brings back actors. Would you do another season?[/bold]
Oh, absolutely. I would love to be part of his company. I think it's doing exciting work. I love the people. You bet, I'd like to stay on the team.
- Do the "triggering" people have problems with shows like Law & Order: SVU? How about Criminal Minds, Hannibal or any of the other serial killer shows on tv? I'm pretty sure nobody complained about the innocent people who were killed in this episode. Just the rape.
- This season is a mix of The Craft, The Skeleton Key, and Suspiria.
Please, oh, please let Jessica Lange use her powers to throw Patti LuPone up against the wall. All of Broadway would stand up and cheer.
Jessica: "Does the world really need more assholes dressed up in Ed Hardy t-shirts?"
- [quote] we did a movie that we shall not mention [laughs] not too long ago.
What's the story with Bonneville? Is it terrible?
I wish Lange would do a really long in depth interview. I would love to hear about All That Jazz.
- I looked up Bonneville too after reading that. I've never seen it. Joan Allen also starred, so three amazing actresses. I guess they just all needed work.
- Is there any--ANY-- size meat in this (and I'm not talking about Sidibe.
- Not yet, but Evan Peters has a gorgeous ass. However, he's completely miscast as a frat-bro. Then again, he broke up the rape so maybe he's meant to be an atypical frat type.
- He probably won't be a frat-bro type of boy any more once they somehow bring him back to life.
- Yeah, the rapists clearly got what they deserved, especially the lead one who was also raped (albeit not very violently) and killed (violently). I actually felt the scene itself was kind of tame in the way it was filmed, by AHS standards.
As for the torture, it reflects real life atrocities (as does the rape, I suppose). That's the scariest part.
- [quote]Love the high heel that comes out of the car -- what an opening! And in the rain with the umbrella -- just loved it!
That was fabulous.
- Thanks goodness for this season. I couldn't watch the other 2 season, I just couldn't get into them.
When it comes to witches, then I'm all ears.Angela Bassett as Marie La Veau,omg she is gonna kill it.
I also like Lifetimes The Witches of East End, its really good.
- [quote]Thanks goodness for this season. I couldn't watch the other 2 season, I just couldn't get into them.
Alright asshole, we fucking get it already.
It was too intense for your delicate little self.
This is like the 4th goddamn post you have made stating this.
We fucking got it the first time you posted.
That wasn't me, this is the first time I posted on this thread.
- [quote]I also, couldn't figure out why, as [R131] said, Lange didn't just mind control the doc into doing her bidding in the first place? I also wondered what prompted her to suck his life force at that point in time.
This is not a plot hole she's a powerful witch and power needs a source - youth. She was old and weak and desperate for a cur.e. When she couldn't get it through legit means she sucked it out of a dude and killed him. That wasn't her preferred method, but she was desperate. So she recharged and now had stronger powers.
- R170, The actual quote was, "The world's not gonna miss a bunch of assholes in Ed Hardy shirts." Heh.
R171, "Bonneville" wasn't terrible, as in embarrassingly bad terrible. It was was simply forgettable, standard issue best-friends-on-the-road-to-find-themselves movie, and not worthy of the talents of Lange, Bates, Allen, and Baranski.
- I loved it and can't wait for next week.
- I found my new "MARY!" moment when KB's character put the bull head on the slave. Given the look of head, it was still warm. When she put the hard on that guy I damned near lost my dinner (broiled skirt steak). Changed the channel right then and there to Top Chef.
I will try to watch it again this weekend.
No Bull Head For Me, Thanks
- makes sense r181. thanks.
New question: Did the slave who was forced to wear the bull's head just really swollen from a beating or did he have his lips sown shut? He seemed to moan a lot, but didn't outright scream or yell, which I would think he would be more likely to do considering the circumstances.
Also, how fucked-up do you think the slave kid that had to do all Bates' bidding must be!? Yikers!
- Not impressed, but not ready to give up.
- I loved it and immediately recognized the real life person Kathy Bates was portraying, some crazy bitch who performed extremely gruesome "experiments" on slaves in her attic. But I hope we won't have to see a lot of torture this season, unlike season 2 which was too grim and ugly. The first season was fun, and they seem to be back on track this season.
- I'm looking forward to watching, and am hearing good things, but I hate how FX declines to make anything available "on demand" until about a week after it was originally broadcast (on my cable system, at least--I wonder if this is universal or just a local problem).
Almost all major cable and broadcast networks make programming available the next day, or maybe after 2 days, if they're going to offer it. Why wait a week, except to piss off viewers?
Sure, I could program the DVR, but that could mean erasing stuff I haven't watched yet, and anyway, why?
- I don't even have cable, I go to a friend's house to watch tv live, or more often, just download the episodes. AHS is very popular so you can get the episodes quickly, a matter of hours, and in HD.
- I found it interesting that Kathy Bates's character spoke Creole in a couple of scenes and not French. I guess I always assumed Creole was a "black" language, with its African substratum, and that the white population spoke French. Maybe by the 1830s, after decades of Spanish rule, French was no longer the vernacular in Louisiana except among the recent arrivals from Acadia; maybe everyone in New Orleans spoke Creole at that time.
- r190, I think they were showing that in public she puts on airs (French) but in private she's crude (Creole).
That daughter's remark about her talents in the bedroom would have gotten her completely shunned from society back then - immediately.
- Would you dried-up old ladies PLEASE stop bitching about how you couldn't handle last season?
We heard you then, we're hearing you now, and we think you are just pussies who should shut the fuck up.
The show's name is American HORROR Story, bitches.
- It's not American UGLY Story, and season 2 was aggressively ugly. Season 2 wasn't a complete failure, there are good episodes here and there, and I like the final 2 or 3 episodes a lot. But overall it was overly unpleasant. Most people I know think season 2 was off, deal with it bitch (speaking of "pussies" who can't handle something.)
- [quote]Most people I know think season 2 was off
Most people you know are fucking retarded.
- R193 is one of those people who rents an apartment above a busy bar and then complains about the noise.
- [quote]Season 2 wasn't a complete failure, there are good episodes here and there, and I like the final 2 or 3 episodes a lot. But overall it was overly unpleasant. Most people I know think season 2 was off, deal with it bitch (speaking of "pussies" who can't handle something.)
Not one person I know thought it was off. We thought it was brilliant. American Horror Story: Asylum was nominated for 17 Primetime Emmy Awards, more than any other show. Maybe The Disney Channel is more you and your friends speed.
- There were far more complaints about season 2, and you all know it, which is why you're so touchy about it. Boring stans are all the same.
- Season 2 was far better than the first season.
- I liked season 1 better than season 2
- More underwhelming Paulson.
- Sarah's face is pretty much too distracting to even notice her acting at this point.
- The doctor (scientist?) was played by Ian Anthony Dale.
- Sarah looks beautiful! ... From a certain angle
- This is a man hating show.
- No gayness yet.
- [quote] I guess I always assumed Creole was a "black" language
Why? Creoles are mostly white.
- Why'd you put black in quotation marks?
You think of Cajun / Creole alongside things like Black and Voodoo because of Hollywood.
The percentage of black people in New Orleans dropped after Katrina. Many decided to stay in whatever city the government sent them to, such as Houston and Atlanta.
The hispanic population got a boost after Katrina because they did a lot of the clean up work and stuck around afterwards. Also, there's a sizable Asian community in New Orleans that seems to surprise some people. It has a large Vietnamese contingent. New Orleans is a very diverse city. A total shithole. Rotten weather. Huge roaches. Tons of poverty. A lot of uneducated folk. Buildings falling apart. Very diverse though.
- Wow, I really loved the premiere. This season feels so much better than the last.
Last season got off to a rocky start, but this season feels very "cool." I love the New Orleans vibe, and the writing seems to be much more focused than last year, which was my primary complaint.
And how could you not love these GRAND DAMES on screen together? Lange, Conroy, Bates, and Bassett? C'mon, now! It's especially nice to see Cathy back on screen.
Oh, and PRETTY GIRL!! I love the (formerly) Addie character, and boy did the hair and wardrobe people "do her up" nicely! This season is really hearkening back to season one for me, which is a good thing. I hated season two.
When Jessica Lange told Sarah Paulson that she'd better be careful before someone drops a house on her, I LOUDLY snapped my fingers, and didn't even miss a beat, bitch!
I'm getting such a diva-esque vibe from this season, and I absolutely LOVE IT! The storyline also seems sufficiently creepy.
My expectations for season 3 were quite low, especially on the heels of "Asylum," but S3 Ep1 really blew me away.
- Agreed that so far Season 3 is looking better than Season 2. I'd say it has the potential to be better than Season 1.
- Season 4's about mummies.
- I liked it but am withholding jdgment. Seasons 1 and 2 were so gruesome, i had to stop watching them. Very bleak. I just couldn't tolerate watching them.
- Season 4 is about the Tea Party. Jessica Lange plays Michele Bachman.
- I thought Miley did an OK job with that role actually
- [quote]Seasons 1 and 2 were so gruesome, i had to stop watching them. Very bleak. I just couldn't tolerate watching them.
I bet you can't even wipe your own ass after you take a shit.
- Denis freakin O'Hare
Apparently his character looking a bit like Riff Raff isn't an accident.
- I thought Asylum was an awesome season, far superior to season one - don't know what you all are on about.
- I thought the first ep. was great and I'll be watching more. Kathy Bates is a sick, sick bitch and I am LOVING it!
- If you watch the preview for next week it shows Denis O'Hare character young, with short hair cutting his own tongue out. I think he's going to have an interesting back ground story.
- The most grotesque thing so far is that the LaLaurie character actually existed. Kathy Bates is great in that revolting role. Jessica Lange is having fun.
Can't stand Emma Roberts, Sarah Paulson annoys me less than she did in Asylum. I love the Taissa and Evan characters. Glad to see Jamie Brewer back, hope she doesn't get killed off too soon as she is obviously going to be the only nice person in the story (again).
- It's cool that the Jamie Brewer character isn't treated or acted as "special."
- [quote]Season 4 is about the Tea Party. Jessica Lange plays Michele Bachman.
You joke, but a sort of supernatural HOUSE OF CARDS with Jessica Lange as a witchy political fixer sounds like heaven to me.
- [quote] I bet you can't even wipe your own ass after you take a shit.
Let's not project your own shortcomings onto others, dear.
- Most are of mixed race, R206.
From your link.
- Does Ryan Murphy have a family member with Down Syndrome? It does seem more than coincidental that all his shows feature actors with Down's.
- I'm wondering if season two was too much for some of you old ladies to handle. I feel like this is a topic we haven't discussed here yet.
- [quote]When Jessica Lange told Sarah Paulson that she'd better be careful before someone drops a house on her, I LOUDLY snapped my fingers, and didn't even miss a beat, bitch!
This is the gayest thing ever written on Datalounge, and that's saying a lot.
- R208. Is that u dwayne?
- [quote] Does Ryan Murphy have a family member with Down Syndrome? It does seem more than coincidental that all his shows feature actors with Down's.
I have wondered about that for the past couple of years and I have seen posts on different message boards in which people ask about it. I also recall some article mentioning the Down syndrome characters in all his shows. I recall on Nip/Tuck, there was only one episode that featured a Down syndrome character and The New Normal had a guest star with Down syndrome.
I like Jamie Brewer on AHS. She is a better actress than Lauren Potter on Glee. I also liked the actress who played Sue's sister on Glee.
- I read somewhere that Jessica Lange requested that Jamie Brewer be cast in S3 because she enjoyed working with her on S1. She was also the one who suggested that Ryan Murphy hire her friends Sarah Paulson (for S1) and Kathy Bates, and that he write more scenes with her and Frances Conroy (S1 & S2). Lange IMO is a class act.
- That's the kind of thing that shows someone's a real friend, R229.
- Lange is a goddess.
- Is Pepper still in the bathroom? She went to the bathroom in the first episode of season 2 and never came back. What's she doing in there?
- I think Pepper came out of the bathroom and spoke beautifully and was some kind of alien. I could be wrong last season felt like an acid trip on occasion. I liked it but the whole alien thing was bananas.
- Ryan has admitted that filming in New Orleans was Jessica's idea! I love it.
- Yeah, Pepper was the midwife to one of Peters' character's babies.
Also, Consuelos filmed a nude scene that was never shown during Season 2. Mildly disappointing.
And while Season 2 meandered, I thought it had some excellent moments and an amazing ending.
- Leslie Jordan said he had a good time filming. He wrote on FB that hisr character is not a silly nice queen like we are used to seeing, but an evil and conniving person.
He also shares that he and Gaby sat around on the set and told each other dirty jokes.
- [quote]I think Pepper came out of the bathroom and spoke beautifully and was some kind of alien.
She was "cured" by the aliens and also revealed that it was her brother-in-law that murdered the baby and cut off its ears but it was easy to blame it on a pinhead.
- Pepper Pepper Bo Bepper.... Naomi Grossman was amazing as Pepper. She's going to be at Chiller the largest east coast autograph show in two weeks and I'm going to get my "American Horror Story: Asylum" Blu-ray signed. I'm going to ask if she appears in Coven since it's still filming and what did she think when her agent sent her up for the role of a "pinhead".
- Can't wait till tonight's new episode....
- I didn't really like the first episode but I'll stick with it.
I wish they had got an Emma Stone type for Emma Roberts part. Roberts has no flair.
- I wish I could go, R238.
Of course, I'd spend the whole time lusting after Milo Ventimiglia, Peter Barton, Zack Ward and Joe Zaso.
Make sure you get an autograph from Rutanya "Carol Ann" Alda and ask her how much of a cunt Dunaway was.
- First episode may have been rather chaotic, but tonight episode has pretty much set a standard for the best season of AHS to date
- Loved the 2 Stevie songs (Edge of Seventeen and Rhiannon).... Angela Bassett is killing it... as is Kathy Bates....as is Jessica Lange....Lily Rabe. What a great cast!
I do believe this just might be my favorite AHS this far!
- I liked this episode much more than last week's. Next week we get to see Patti Lupone as the fundamentalist Christian neighbor.
- r116 is taking a gender course taught by a feminist lesbian professor whose course syllabus is full of self-published works.
- Jessica Lange can do no wrong. Before Series 1 who knew she was funny? I laughed out loud with her an Kathy Bates, two old broads doing what they do so well.
"I'm sorry for your loss. Wanna bite?"
- Lily Rabe as a witch in drapes with Stevie Nicks as her hero -- that is just so perfect and wonderful.
Was she about to get to lezzing with the little girl in the cabin?
- Taissa Farmiga is around 18 or 19 so why do they insist on making her look 12?
- I LIKED AHS 1 & 2, but I LOVE this season already. I'm kind of upset that the episodes are only 1 hour long and that I have to wait a week between them :(
- Why didn't they show discarded cock?
- Patti was just shown in the preview for next week.
- Who plays Patti's hunky son?
LOVED LOVED LOVED Sidibe's Detroit chicken joint scene.
I hope the Minotaur doesn't kill her off, especially since she is not in the main credits. Same goes for Brewer.
- Great episode. Love Lily Rabe!!!
And nest week we get the meanest woman on Broadway (she pinched all those little kids in GYPSY so they'd be afraid) as Lange's neighbor!
- [quote] Patti was just shown in the preview for next week.
STOP STOP STOP!!!!
Preview?? I should slap your fucking face right now! This episode is being billed, "PATTY'S FUCKING TRIUMPHANT RETURN TO NETWORK TELEVISION!!"
And those goddamned sponsors had better pony up the dough to promote MY episode or there will be HELL TO PAY!!!
Be warned that if I see even ONE FUCKING CELL PHONE on set during my taping... MOTHERFUCKING HEADS WILL ROLL!!!!
DO YOU PEOPLE UNDERSTAND ME???!!!!!
- Who is Lily Rabel?
- She's a rouser.
- Is LuPone's hunky son going to be the gay character? He looked very clean cut, but that just might be the fundie thing. It'd be fun to watch LuPone trying to pray the gay away.
There has to be one. I thought it might have been Cordelia until her hot husband showed up. Misty Day is the other main candidate.
Lange and Bates have amazing timing together. I hope they're a double act for series to come.
- "Are you in charge here?"
"I'm in charge everywhere."
- r247 i thought the same thing: they looked like they were about to kiss for a second. I am LOVING Rabe this season! I hope she comes to live in the witch school.
- "Ryan and Stevie are e-mailing"
- "and yes, you will see shawls."
LOVED THAT thanks r260.
LOVE Lilly Rabe as the witch with the Stevie Nicks obsession! This episode just KILLED--literally! Angela Bassett is owning her role as Marie Lavaux. I wish I could see all of the episodes NOW!
Question: If Kathy Bates' character has been buried alive for almost 200 years, wouldn't her coffin be full of shit? Can you imagine spending eternity in a shit filled coffin?
- well, after she'd pooped out her last meal, there would be nothing to produce MORE shit, silly.
- Fantastic episode. Absolutely fantastic. This cast is incredible. Kathy Bates is doing one of her best performances since Misery. Stevie Nicks, Minotaurs, Angela Bassett...this is going to be one hell of a season.
- So is Jessica Lange officially a gay icon now?
- [quote]So is Jessica Lange officially a gay icon now?
She has been since she played Big Edie.
- ...she has been since she played frances farmer...
- Emma Roberts is the perfect example of an actress we wouldn't ever have heard of if not for her family connection. She is borderline homely.
- "It's nice to see you're doing so well after all these years. Maybe in another century you could have two shithole salons."
- I am loving the dialogue this season! Especially between Bates, Lange and Bassett.
And I did see the tension between Misty and Zoe, that was pretty obviously intentional.
- I'm loving Gabourey. She was hilarious last night.
"Sabrina, the Teenage Cracker"
Kathy Bates: "Get out of my way, SLAVE!"
"Who you calling a slave, BITCH!"
- "Come on, Mary Todd Lincoln. I'll buy you a drink"
I fucking love this show.
- [quote]"Come on, Mary Todd Lincoln. I'll buy you a drink"
Last night it was Miss Pitty Pat.
- Did Bates character cut off the slaves head and replace it with the bulls head? Why is he a real Minotaur now?
- Why is Lavoux buried in St. Louis and not New Orleans?
Is Anne Rice going to make an appearance this season as a witch?
- The "St Louis Cemetery" is in New Orleans, R275. Also, the house they were sitting outside at the end was NOT the LaLaurie house and it is not a museum in real life (it is actually a corner house on it's street-not in a row like they showed). I wish they didn't do shit like that.
- [quote] Also, the house they were sitting outside at the end was NOT the LaLaurie house and it is not a museum in real life (it is actually a corner house on it's street-not in a row like they showed). I wish they didn't do shit like that.
Perhaps they couldn't get permission to film at the actual location.
- Did Madison's spell work at last or was it something else that brought Kyle back to life?
- That was a pretty dark spell.
- [quote]Also, the house they were sitting outside at the end was NOT the LaLaurie house and it is not a museum in real life (it is actually a corner house on it's street-not in a row like they showed). I wish they didn't do shit like that.
It's on Chartres Street, a block or two away from the real Lalaurie house. In fact, I think it's on the same block as Barbara Stanwyck's whorehouse in "Walk on the Wild Side." (The real Lalaurie house is catercorner to the Verti Marte deli, and just down the street from the French Quarter wrinkle room The Golden Lantern, where the patrons are about Mme. Lalaurie's age.)
There have been some CGI scenes of the city, but Bates and Lange actually shot that on Chartres Street one afternoon, and not that long ago... four to six weeks or so.
- It may have been the kiss R278, it would fit with Zoe being able to kill people with her pussy and heal them with her kiss.
Also I read that Stevie Nicks and Lindsay Buckingham are reworking one of her songs specifically for the show since she is apparently friends with Ryan!
- It was Lily Rabe that resurrected him.
- [quote]Apparently his character looking a bit like Riff Raff isn't an accident.
That's him as the butler?! I didn't recognize him. I was still waiting for him to appear.
- I believe the Lalaurie house is a private home, so perhaps the owners wouldn't give permission to film there.
I read a recent interview with Jessica Lange, who said she wanted to "do" Marlene Dietrich playing her character this season, and after reading that I could totally see it.
- I saw photos of the inside of the Lalaurie house when Nicolas Cage owned it. He had it decorated in a modern style. I didn't like it at all. Who would want to own a house with such a tragic past?
I hope they set a couple episodes during Mardis Gras. That would be fun.
- Nicholas Cage is a total fucking weirdo, r285. Bizarre man.
- Nicolas Cage was obsessed with Elvis. And then he married Elvis' daughter. Hmmmm...
- Am I the only who thought Misty is totally going to kiss Zoe?
Cordelia is so giving birth to Antichrist, too.
- The way Misty was leering at Zoe makes me thinks she's one of those scissor sister-type witches.
- I loved how Misty deliberately evaded answering Zoe's query regarding whether Stevie Nicks was really a witch ...
Stevie so should have had a cameo this season.
- I'm not a fan of Sarah Paulson, but that baby-making scene was hot!
Hope there's more hot, sweaty butt cheeks grinding - with or without the blood & snakes.
- Any info on the guy who plays Paulson's husband?
- The billing is strange - Frances Conroy is considered main cast, but has only been seen once - briefly - through two episodes; Angela Basset is considered recurring/supporting and does not get main title billing, but has been prominently featured through the same two episodes.
- So boring. NO horror. I haven't been scared once. Weakest season.
- Boooo! Now go fuck off.
- Ryan said he won't repeat the "demon/alien" baby storyline since it's already been done on AHS.
- I don't like Emma Roberts in the role, but I think she's very pretty - much more so than aunt Julia.
- r294 - too bad you just go for momentary sensation after momentary sensation. There is character-driven story in all this madness.
- I'm loving this show, but the girls sewing together the cute frat boy was a little over the top absurd AND unnecessarily macabre.
And where the hell did they get all those supplies? Salt, candles, knives, etc.? Neither was wagging around a witchy tote bag when they went into the morgue.
Still tuning-out when I see Gabby Sibede's scenes but I hope they get better. The writing will have to carry her since the acting won't.
And Patti Lupone? Theater queens will be swooning but the rest of the planet watching the show will just want to know who she is and why they had to hire some hammy old actress for that bit.
- I've not seen the first two seasons, but I'm a sucker for a good witch story, so I tuned in to Coven. I'm liking it a lot. I have to say, though, that I can't wait for Lange, Bassett, and Bates to be on screen. The younger actors just pale in comparison. I am rather intrigued, though, by the character of Nan. I wish she had more screen time.
Last night, Lange and Bassett just chewed up the scenery. I hope we have more of them together.
So should I check out the first two seasons? I've read that Ryan Murphy wanted to make this season lighter. I've heard the first two seasons were pretty intense.
- I also thought the sewing bit was very silly and too much.
As for Patti LuPone, lots of people would recognise "Corky's Mom".
- Paulson such a bore. Out of her depths so far.
- [quote]but the girls sewing together the cute frat boy was a little over the top absurd AND unnecessarily macabre[/quote]
Gurl did you forget what show you were watching? This is AMERICAN HORROR STORY bitch!
- [quote]Paulson such a bore. Out of her depths so far.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't like her, we get. Sarah was AMAZING in "Asylum" more than deserving of her Emmy nomination and actually deserved the award. It's episode two and her character is just beginning. Unclench.
- Is that some kind of rule that La LuPone can only be a regular on a series that has a Down Syndrome kid as a cast member?
- I thought the idea of sewing together the perfect frat boy was HOT.
I hope later we find out how big they made his dick.
- Becca. Tie my shoe.
- [quote] I am rather intrigued, though, by the character of Nan. I wish she had more screen time.
Her name is Jamie Brewer. She's a member of the Groundlings and was in the first season of American Horror Story as Jessica Lange's daughter. She was astounding.
- This thread has one fanatic fan loon.
I hate threads like this. People can't "discuss" and bitch about the show while still liking it without one or two delusional fans who've lost track of reality and are taking any critique of characters as some sort of personal attacks.
When did these people become the norm on Datalounge?
- I like the new theme song that accompanies this season... it's a woman's voice la la'ing. Anyone know who it is? I've searched and been unable to find...
- Someone called Marni Nixon, apparently.
- It has always been like this on AHS threads, r309. Bitch about the show and expect someone to come hurling at you. It's ridiculous.
Anyways, I noticed this season it's Chinese herbs, no more Koh-ree-an. I swear that Paulson and Lange were suppressing giggles at their dialogue.
I am loving Lange's character so far. Bitch is fierce.
And love the black attires.
- R312, I'm loving Lange's witch also. She's fierce, and a bitch but there's something oh so slightly endearing about her.
I love how she barely flips her fingers upward to throw people against the wall.
I suppose Marie Laveau is supposed to be an equal rival but I'm not seeing any competition there yet.
Speaking of the Laveau character - considering she's survived 180 years and has immense power, allegedly, why isn't she living more grandly? Wouldn't she have a nicer home/shop? And why would the bull lover still have the bull head on his shoulders, wearing the same pants?
- [quote]Speaking of the Laveau character - considering she's survived 180 years and has immense power, allegedly, why isn't she living more grandly?
Maybe she doesn't want to call attention to herself.
I confess I'm completely confused about the minotaur. Maybe they'll explain later.
- I wonder about the "two shithole salons" part too. I am guessing she's supposed to be dead and has to live a low profile life. It's a front.
We really have not seen the extent of her powers or "richness" as yet. Maybe she's an underground godfather type in New Orleans.
I am not sure if Lange's witch still aligns with the good. She knows what she wants and gets it, sacrificing a few along the way.
Have we seen anyone who is really evil as yet? Does Bate's character count?
No idea about the minotaur. Perhaps it's part of the stylish presentation with no explanation given, as usual.
- [quote]I wonder about the "two shithole salons" part too. I am guessing she's supposed to be dead and has to live a low profile life. It's a front.
The real Marie Laveau was a hairdresser by trade.
- Tee-hee ... no, r301, only Patti's fans will recognize her from a show called Life Goes On.
- [quote]I hate threads like this. People can't "discuss" and bitch about the show while still liking it without one or two delusional fans who've lost track of reality and are taking any critique of characters as some sort of personal attacks.
Poor baby. If you hate threads like this, by all means, don't read them.
- Surely Patti's fans recognise her from her musical theatre work.
- I really can't warm up to that Roberts girl. Is she Eric's daughter?
- Ryan should create a role for Chris Burke. I don't think he's doing anything else these days.
- About Marie Laveau's lifestyle: I imagine that if you're immortal and eternally young you really have to keep a very low profile so as not to call attention to yourself. If she lived in a grand fashion people would notice her and start to have questions about her.
- I'm a gay man and I had to ask my roommate (who is also gay) what the hell a Patti Lupone was.
- R323 Turn in your card!
- [quote] I'm a gay man and I had to ask my roommate (who is also gay) what the hell a Patti Lupone was.
You couldn't even tell that "Patti Lupone" is the name of a person rather than a thing? O...K....
- [quote] Ryan should create a role for Chris Burke. I don't think he's doing anything else these days.
Knowing Ryan, he will probably create a role for Chris Burke on Glee. Chris can play the older boyfriend of that awful Cheerio Becky.
- [quote] I really can't warm up to that Roberts girl. Is she Eric's daughter?
Yup, she is Eric's daughter.
- Eric is prettier, oddly enough.
- r325 - you are joking right?
- [quote] You couldn't even tell that "Patti Lupone" is the name of a person rather than a thing?
Have you seen her out of makeup? "Thing" may not be an inaccurate description.
- [quote]I really can't warm up to that Roberts girl.
She's playing a spoiled murdering movie star brat. You're actually not supposed to warm up to her, that's what Taissa Farmiga's character is for. So she's doing a good job.
- Was this youtube Tony Awards done during Patti's coke period?
Jesus Christ but she reminds me of how Joan Crawford looked (the mouth, the eyes) in that 1920's clip from THAT'S ENTERTAINMENT! The one where Joan performed a very heavy footed Charlston.... badly.
- Patti's coke period covers a long time. I would guess from 1979-1989. Basically from Evita to when she got married.
- Patti LuPone's face looks like it was pumped up with air and then deflated all the while viewed from a fish eye lens.
- Am I the only gay man who doesn't get Lupone's appeal to gay men. And yes, I watched that clip at r332. I still don't get it.
- Are there many witches in New Orleans today?
I saw Anne Rice leaving a restaurant in New Orleans and she was dressed all in black. She looks like a witch when you see her in real life.
- [quote]Are there many witches in New Orleans today?
Probably. Witches live everywhere.
- R314 the minotaur is Laveau's husband/lover/whatever, he was a slave of Bates' character. The horses head was punishment for touching her (LaLaurie's) daughter (which he didn't do). I assume Laveau gave him the same elixir she gave herself and LaLaurie.
- "Bitch, I will EAT you!"
- In the credits, they have those black-hooded witches, but to me what's scary about them, and this was probably intentional, is that they look like white-hooded KKK hicks. Freaky.
- Spoilerific question:
I read somewhere that one of the girls is going to be killed in one of the next episodesbut I've forgotten if it was Fiona or Laveau who did it?
Any idea who's going to bite in the grass? From the look of next week's promo it might be Queenie, I think.
- The Stevie Nicks tribute act is one of the few people Zoe could have sex with and not kill them (for good) so I'm thinking that's on.
Jessica Lange is about as cool as it gets in my book. Cannot wait to see Kathy Bates as the maid!
Have seen Emma Roberts in the flesh and you wouldn't look twice at her on the street.
- I read it somewhere that Fiona is going to kill one of the students because she believes that the student is going to be the future supreme. r341.
- R310, it's called "Lala Lala Song" by James S. Levine, but I don't know whose voice it is.
- They kind of hinted that Stevie Nicks/Lily Rabe is into Taissa's character.Can Stevie/Lily have sex with her? Maybe even her magic can't protect her.
The character with Down's syndrome seems to be the most knowledgeable about magic on a primal level. She might be fingered as the Supreme. Jessica's character is the one that will do the killing.
- Ugh...Patti Lupone..
Yes, I am one of those who've heard her name bounced around by the Theatre Queens, but never knew who she was...so I youtubed this clip, figuring I knew the song and wondered how she did it..
Good Lord she is awful! Shatner-esque staccato rendering of the sond, Vader-esque breathing techniques...
I've seen better High School renditions...hell, better karaoke renditions.
Is this what you queens are on about?! Jesus.
What's a Corky?
- There is a clip of upcoming scenes in which someone is being burned at the stake...JL is walking away looking like the one who set the fire...they are surrounded by other witches and the girls from the school are there looking on...the only one missing is ER. Since there seems to be tension between JL and ER characters onscreen, Im going to go with ER being offed.
- Lily Rabe's character's name Misty.
- R347, Hmm. I thought that initially, but ER's name shows up in the main opening credits (as opposed to, say, Chloe Sevigny's last year), which would indicate that she is a main player and will be around for several more episodes (Although in the AHS-verse, death doesn't necessarily mean the end of the actor's run).
I'm going with R345's prediction. As one recapper pointed out, when Cordelia first explains what a Supreme is, the camera cuts to Nan (Jamie Brewer), who, while sipping tea, gives a self-conscious "don't look at me" look. If it is Nan, the AHS fandom is going to be upset.
- Thanks for the answers.
I'd be so pissed if they kill of Nan. Jamie Brewer is the best one out of the younger actresses, let's be real.
I have to say Taissa is the weakest link as of now which may be due to her character.
I'm interested in the dynamic between Misty and Zombie!Kyle. Rabe talked about this in some interview and she seemed very fond of Evan and his acting. I'm quite positive it's Misty who resurrected Kyle and not the two amateurs in the morgue, so basically she's his mistress and can order him around. Hmmm...
- Thank you, r346, for providing your useless, redundant commentary on the merits of Patti LuPone's style long after the discussion ended.
Some people like Patti LuPone. Some people like the Real Housewives of wherever. If you don't understand her appeal, then please just move on with your life. She's an actress and she's appearing on a tv show. It's nothing out of the ordinary.
- Yeah, I think Taissa's character sucks. Maybe she'll become more defined as the season progresses. Such a vibe with Lily's character, I hope they pursue it. She resurrects Kyle only to figure out she likes girls. Also Misty has the power of life and Zoe the power of death, so there'll doubtless be conflict there.
- Maybe Jamie Brewer can't work many hours. Like Susan Boyle.
- Zoe is so far the least interesting, weakest character. But I also happen to think that is what we are led to believe about her. I think she's the next supreme. We have seen her able to start fires, cause death by "sucking" life out of someone through sex, resurrect with a kiss and reaching into the space between life and death and thus made connections with Misty.
The other girls seems more sure and aware of their powers, unlike Zoe, who is only discovering herself. There's more room for growth for her.
- R338, no, we know all that. But the Minotaur seems to be "real" now. Whereas before I was just a man with a bull's head stuck over his own head.
- Where are Zachary Quinto and Dylan McDermott?
- R356 - crying and masturbating at the same time somewhere
- He could be a member of the infamous witch counsil.
Speaking of Quinto, is there even a hint of a gay witch storyline for Coven?
- They killed Jamie Brewer's character early in Season 1 and it gave JL's character an indelible moment in the morgue as she put makeup on her pretty girl for the first and last time. However, I have a feeling that Murphy will want to keep JB around longer in some fashion in this season because she was universally loved in S1. I know that her character's friendship with GB's character and budding friendship with Lange are two of my favorite parts of the show. She has killed every scene so far.
- [quote] Where are Zachary Quinto and Dylan McDermott?
Zachary is currently on Broadway with Sarah Paulson's ex in The Glass Menagerie.
- Who is Sarah Paulson's ex?
- r300 [quote]I've read that Ryan Murphy wanted to make this season lighter. I've heard the first two seasons were pretty intense.
This season is so fucking boring. Emma Roberts and Taissa Farmiga get too much screen time. Farmiga's character is ruining almost everything. All she does is whine. She's so immature.
- [quote] Who is Sarah Paulson's ex?
- r303 [quote]This is AMERICAN HORROR STORY bitch!
So where's the horror? I haven't been scared once. Boring as hell.
- r302 [quote]Paulson such a bore. Out of her depths so far.
- It' stupid to say Paulson is out of her depth when she's hardly had any screen time, and no big scenes apart from the snake scene.
- I'm not sold on this season yet (it's early days of course), but Lalaurie's slave attic was pure horror, e.g. the slave with most of the skin gone from their face.
- R364, they're making the mistake of confusing grossing people out with scaring them. It's an unfortunate part of the modern horror genre.
Your comment reminded me of a line that was actually funny from The Soup a while back:
'This week on Ghost Adventures, which in 7 seasons has shown us neither a Ghost nor an Adventure'...
That pretty much sums up what all of those paranormal investigation shows are like.
- r368 [quote]they're making the mistake of confusing grossing people out with scaring them. It's an unfortunate part of the modern horror genre.
Yes. Why should it be so difficult doing genuine horror?
- Define genuine horror. I'm not really a genre fan.
- If Fiona is the Supreme, why did she need Nan to locate the grave of LaLAurie? Isn't the Supreme also clairvoyant?
- But people aren't watching AHS for it's "horror" content, at least not since season 2.
- [quote]Define genuine horror.
Being genuinely scared, not just grossed out.
- When the concept of the Supreme was exposited somewhat clumsily it was said that the Supreme *may* have all powers but definitely has many.
- Jaimie Brewer (Nan) is a better actress than Emma Roberts and the other one. I love that Jamie Brewer because she is truly a natural actress.
- JL's character looked directly at Zoe when she was uprbraiding her about talking to the cops. During the tirade she said (paraphrasing) "even the weakest witch could turn out to be the strongest of all, and is far stronger than any non-witch." I'm betting on Zoe or Misty being the next Supreme. I'm edging a bit more towards Zoe because of how that scene was shot.
- R371, I just assumed the Supreme is the condensation of all the witches' powers, while the individual witches might posses greater skill at their own individual ability.
I maybe read too much into it.
- I realize now that that sentence is a mess. Hopefully it still makes sense.
- I like the theme, setting and casting of this year's iteration of AHS, but thus far the writing in terms of story continuity has been severely lacking. The episodes have memorable scenes and the shade that is thrown between the female leads pulls in the ratings but I have had a hard time getting invested in the characters as the show just jumps from one random scene to the next. It would help if they would produce an episode where all of the actors go do something together (i.e. a trip to Diagon Alley or something equivalent) and intersperse it with flashbacks and plot development as necessary. Last year they did a better job immersing us into the world of the mental hospital from the beginning (although there were some pointless and undeveloped tangents like the aliens, Dr. Arden's Nazi back-story that were never fully fleshed out) and the mere fact that all of the actors were confined to the hospital so it just made for a more naturally organic story. This year it just feels like Murprhy and his writing team are just writing random scenes that have catty one-liners with no real concern for telling a story at all. We have yet to be introduced to an overarching goal for the season (escape from the hospital, find the girl, etc) just a vague idea that random girls are supposed to be getting trained to realize their power as witches. And there has been no training thus far and we are going into week 3 of a 12 week series.
- If you want teal horror, just let Uncle Ryan babysit you.
- R379, you sound dim. Fiona's quest for immortal life will be the plot engine of the season. They've set that up since Lange's first scene.
- Count me as another gay who never heard Patti Lupone "sing" before this thread. I wish I could go back in time and never clicked on the Youtube links. Seriously, THAT's what some of you queens cluck about? She sounds like she can barely get her words out.
- I just hope when Patti Lupone arrives on the show, the Theatre Queens don't turn this thread into a Patti thread and ignore the show. I'm only aware of her in passing, and really can't say I'm impressed.
- [quote]If you want teal horror, just let Uncle Ryan babysit you.
If I want teal horror, I'll watch [italic]Duck Dynasty[/italic].
- "Have we seen anyone who is really evil as yet? Does Bate's character count?"
You really have to ask?
- 'I couldn't toast a piece of bread with the heat they were putting on you'. Bwahahaha!
- Every time I see Jamie Brewer on screen, I sing to myself: "Who's that girl? Who's that girl? It's Jess!"
- Jessica Lange's delivery is exquisite. She is hilarious.
- The biggest weakness of this series is the manic, choppy editing, especially when cutting between characters during dialogue. I just don't get it. I know it's something of an AHS trademark now, but it looks so amateurish to me. Anyone else bothered by it?
- R389, the show is shot and edited to convey a fever dream -- disorienting camera angles, tilting, swaying, warping, and disjointed, choppy editing. My friend, whose on antispychotic medication, watched the first episode of the new season and told me he didn't think he would continue watching because the camerawork was making him feel like he was really going mad.
- Why not r385? I am not feeling the evilness yet despite the sadistic showing. I also doubt the truly evil one will be Bates.
- The truly evil ones will probably end up being Paulson and Rabe.
- [quote]Count me as another gay who never heard Patti Lupone "sing" before this thread. I wish I could go back in time and never clicked on the Youtube links. Seriously, THAT's what some of you queens cluck about? She sounds like she can barely get her words out.
Thank you, no go back to your Myley Cyrus album.
- Oh please, r393. I haven't heard Patti Lupone sing either.
But I have heard her murder some songs.
- R392 Yeah Paulson will give birth to Satan's spawn and he will be 20 by the end of this season! Lily will fuck Franken Evan Peters and piss off little Miss Zoe(Taissa Farmiga).To be honest it would be great fun if Lange was really the big bad.Her downfall/comeuppance will be all the more enjoyable. Especially after killing a potential Supreme. I was leaning towards Ms Brewer getting killed but Ms Roberts seems the more likely candidate now.
- I loved it when Lange called Bates "Miss Pittypat," a reference the Bates character would not get.
- You people criticising Patti LuPone have obviously never heard "Heaven Is A Disco".
- It was funny, but it should have been "Aunt" Pittypat.
- Hey, is Jessica's character bald? When they mentioned how expensive her weave was it made me think of the Angelica Huston character in "Witches" who wears a wig that itches.
- R399, they weren't talking about Fiona's hair. The other salon girl pointed to the weaves on display and said, "Most of that is real hair -- more precious than gold. We buy it by the pound."
- R400 you just know there's going to be some gruesome backstory to how they get that hair.
- Oh, and why the fuck did she keep a bull's head on her lover all these years?
- Coz she a stone cold freak.
- Good Lord!!!! How has this lady not been arrested for the crimes she has perpetuated?
- In that witch burning scene that shows Fiona walking away from a burning witch, it looks like the only witch that isn't there to watch is Madison.
It also looks like Leslie Jordan in front. So this can't be occurring until mid-season.
Scene at :03ish
- I just watched the first episode on demand - it was inept beyond belief. Terrible direction and writing - Lange is recycling her performance from AHS1. The tone is all over the place.
But then Ryan Murphy shows do generally go to shit after a season or two.
- I love the camera work. It's as if I'm eavesdropping/spying within the scene.
- Do us a favor R406, stop watching. We don't need you to come here week after week shitting on our good time.
- People like R379, R389 and R406 are truly tiresome.
- Stop overanalyzing every goddamn scene, for Christ's sake! I'm enjoying it so far for what it is - a fun supernatural show. And Lange, Bates and Bassett are camping it up wonderfully.
- Haven't read most of this thread for this weeks episode because Time Warner Cable NYC kept freezing during the broadcast rendering my DVR recording unwatchable (other friends bitched about it on FB, so I know it wasn't just me) Not to mention that it's not on demand yet, nor does the episode air again until the 24th! WTF?! I refuse to pay to watch it on Amazon or another service, but it's killing me to have to wait an entire week to watch it.
- r411 - for the millionth fucking time on Datalounge - go to a STREAMING SITE to watch it if you don't want to wait.
- [quote]Oh, and why the fuck did she keep a bull's head on her lover all these years?
If you watch the previews for next week you can see that it is like the bull head has become a part of him. Not just a head resting on his shoulders, but it is now his head. He can move the mouth, eyes, etc...
Probably a result of some voodoo ritual. We don't know if she gave him that eternal life potion before he was taken in by LaLaurie and had his pancreas cut out by Borquita.
[quote]It also looks like Leslie Jordan in front. So this can't be occurring until mid-season.
Episode 5 (Nov. 13) is titled "Burn, Witch. Burn!"
- So what do you think, R413, is he more man or beast? She has to chain him when she's not there.
- I think maybe Angela turned him into a real minotaur and she will try to have him kill LaLaurie. We'll see!
- r411, I had the same problem with Time Warner NYC. It was marginally better during broadcast watching it on the "non-HD" channel. Ended up nabbing it on torrent just to watch it again uninterrupted this weekend.
Time Warner sucks.
- I'm sorry you are not enjoying it, r406. But I am.
... and the world keeps on turning ...
- [quote]I think maybe Angela turned him into a real minotaur and she will try to have him kill LaLaurie.
LaLaurie WANTS to die.
Marie WANTS her to live forever and suffer.
Judging from the preview, it looks like the Minotaur goes after Queenie. Not to kill ker but more likely to bring her back to the voodoo fold. Queenie is a direct descendant of Tituba and Tituba is the ultimate supreme to Marie.
- "Tituba is the ultimate supreme."
I call bullshit on that!
- r410 [quote]a fun supernatural show
It's supposed to be horror.
- r406 [quote]I just watched the first episode on demand - it was inept beyond belief.
- Yeah, totally fails in comparison with high art like Modern Family, huh?
- You can tell that Kathy Bates is a great actress because she totally sold this line: "I'm not hungry."
[quote]She might be fingered as the Supreme.
It certainly happened to me! That Smokey Robinson was a dog!
- The TWOP recapper who writes about "Glee" always called Finn Hudson "FrankenTeen." I guess now that he's gone for good, the title can be transferred to Kyle.
- "People like [R379], [R389] and [R406] are truly tiresome."
Quite the contrary. What's tiresome is all these silly queens creaming over this pile of shit. TRUE BLOOD at its worst was never this awful. The first season of AHS was the only one that was any good, though Paulson and Quinto did manage to make something of their roles in that ASYLUM train wreck.
"Do us a favor [R406], stop watching. We don't need you to come here week after week shitting on our good time."
Oh please - it's just a TV show.
- R425, what sort of shows do you like?
- apparently we have a few flies posting here since they think they see a pile of shit and keep coming back for more.
- R425, you really sound like an asshole.
- [quote]Quite the contrary. What's tiresome is all these silly queens creaming over this pile of shit. TRUE BLOOD at its worst was never this awful. The first season of AHS was the only one that was any good, though Paulson and Quinto did manage to make something of their roles in that ASYLUM train wreck.
And YET you're STILL here. You sound unhinged. Perhaps Asylum hit too close to home. Now begone.
- I'm not loving Coven so far, but I'm not going to post that in this thread nonstop. Because after all, I'm still watching. And it absolutely is negative, asshole behavior.
I enjoyed the second season and remember well all the annoying pearl clutching going on in those threads.
- Anyone watching?
- This show is toooo much! Where has it been all my life??
- Stay away from my family. In Jesus' name.
- Whoa, what the hell?
- Oy! FrankenKyle's mom...
- you vicious gash...
- Hmm, so Fiona's getting weak because one of the girls is the new supreme.
- Sidibe is masturbating on my TV screen!!!!
- Lawd, this is the craziest shit I've ever seen on TV.
- Mare Winningham is fucking her own son!
- This episode is...
- Voodoo and Angela Bassett
- this is no mystical mumbo jumbo, this is real....
- Oh shit! Jessica Lange just killed Diana Ross....
- Fucking fantastic episode tonight.
"This coven doesn't need a new Supreme ... it needs a new rug".
- Looks like it is time for Lily Rabe to raise the dead again.
- The Minotaur is enchanted! Just like My Little Pony
- Everytime you think they just did the craziest shit they could do, they top it. Jessica said next season will be her last. I can't imagine it without her.
- The only good scenes this episode were the Jessica Lange scenes. Everything else is feeling a little mailed in, and I'm a big fan of the show.
- I can honestly say I'm shocked and speechless after watching this episode. And I've never said that about a tv show. Brava!!
- They have to save something for the halloween's Eve show, R451
- So let's see, in one episode we have Incest, Bestiality, Arson, Voodoo, Slavery, Devil Worship and Patti Lupone!
- Would kill to be at that Monday morning script table read, Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, Angela Bassett, Sarah Paulson, Christine Ebersole, Patti Lupone & Lily Rabe.
- loved the cigarette lighting scene between Madison and Fiona.
- ...and Christine Ebersole getting her throat cut open!
- DAMN … didn't see ANY of that shit coming tonight.
I wish each episode were 2 hours long. Brilliant.
Fell in love with AHS season 1 after a friend told me about it - Loved last year (can't believe Jessica didn't get the Emmy) - Am loving COVEN!
Can't wait for the Halloween episode next week.
- Give Jessica Lange, Kathy Bates, and Angela Bassett a show. Kind of like the Golden Girls, but witches (and Bates) in New Orleans. Queenie and the Down Syndrome girl as the wacky neighbors (in very small doses).
Yes! I knew this show would kick in hard once they had the characters and conflicts established. But never in my wildest dreams did I imagine that Precious would be fingering herself to some man/beast. Patty Lupone did look frightful too. Anyone remember the funny line Jessica had about the bible beaters being kinky or perverted?
- I loved the overdone CRRRRUUUNCH sound effects when Gabby Sidibe was eating potato chips.
- Jessica Lange vs. Christine Ebersole was some Little Edie on Big Edie violence!
- I couldn't watch it.
When they kidnapped that journalist and were going to do electric shock treatments, I couldn't watch it.
- Jessica Lange in a black nightie, Jessica Lange in a red dress, Jessica Lange slitting Lindsay Hilton/Paris Lohan's throat, Kathy Bates horrified by black power, a full-blown voodoo ritual, mother-son incest and the following matricide, big black girl masterbation and the following bestiality ... all made Patti Lupone's much anticipated appearence pale a little in comparison.
- [quote]What's a Patti Lupone?
It's a floor cleaner AND a desert topping, Rose.
- This show is unhinged. I love it.
- Kathy Bates watching Obama's inauguration, saying, "That magic box lies," give this show an Emmy already! You don't get better than this!
- IMDB in meltdown over Fiona voting for Obama twice.
- What did we think of the new neighbor boy? I still prefer Evan in all his fucked-up-ness, but I'm all for more male eye candy. Loved Nan baking a cake for him.
- Damn, that was good television tonight.
- Love this sick fucking show! I don't get squeamish easily, but the incest scene made my skin crawl. Yuck! Like the above poster, I also loved Kathy Bates calling the tv "that magic box." Can you imagine being a person from the 1830s and then suddenly finding yourself in 2013? It would almost be like going to another planet and living amongst an alien civilization. I don't think Emma Roberts will stay dead - the Stevie Nicks tribute act will revive her, I'm sure.
Again, this show is so sick and wonderful and I love it!
- Madison in the preview for next week seeing her feet sticking out of the carpet like that focusing on her silver high heels... is that an homage to "The Wizard of Oz"... The Wicked Witch of the East's feet sticking out from under Dorothy's house? If it is, it's a good reference!
- Ryan Murphy said in an interview that Emma Roberts does some pretty out there scenes in upcoming episodes including one of the most disturbing scenes the show has done yet. We have yet to see Emma do anything "out there" or be in a really disturbing scene.
Interview was after the gang rape scene aired so I think you're right R472.
- Should have said there are spoilers at the link I provided. Sorry. I need to go to bed instead of staying up to watch this show again.
- Wow! Great episode! In Jesus' name!
I've been wanting an Evan Peters' sex scene, but incest wasn't what I had in mind, lol!
Lily Rabe twirling around like a maniac reminded me of Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs. Why doesn't that Farmiga character bring Lily Rabe back to the witch house? I want more Lily Rabe, Lily Rabing about!
- [quote]I don't get squeamish easily, but the incest scene made my skin crawl.
- BORING!!! What a fucking camp shitfest. I don't know why I bother watching.
- I just spit out my water watching Kathy Bate's character becoming traumatized by seeing a black president on the "magic box," only to have Lange's character tell her she was then going to be a maid to a black girl. Hilarious!!
- r477 = Bible-thumper.
- It just gets better and better doesnt it. Loving this show.
- The show opened with Fiona discussing the power of the "dance" or enchanting men. Is that a Supreme's power?
If so, then Madison couldn't be the new one because that hot neighbor practically ignored her.
However, he had eyes only for Nan. Nan also said she has no trouble having sex with men.
Could Nan be the real new Supreme?
Fiona: That girl's smarter than the 3 of you put together.
- I really, really hate to give any praise to Ryan Murphy, but this type of show may just be perfect for him as a writer and producer. He gets to work with extraordinary actors, write horrifically graphic and campy scenes, as well as preachy over the top shit (veiled and/or blatant). Best of all he can completely alter the storyline and cast every year, so he doesn't have to worry about continuity in any sense. Each year is like a brand new show. With his A.D.D. writing and temperamental relationships with actor, this type of show is a great fit for him.
I will be interested in seeing how it fares after Lange's departure, though.
- I really like the message of this season about how the old sometimes refuse to relinquish their power to the young. It's very current.
- I fucking love this show.
- "This coven doesn't need a new Supreme. It needs a new rug."
Jessica Lange's line deliveries are perfect. And I'm sorry, but I found the 64 year-old Lange to be far sexier than 22 year-old Emma Roberts. Those stems are killer!
And did we really need that image of Gabourey diddling herself?
- I died at Delphine thinking Dr. Phil was an actual physician.
- Anyone here have Time Warner as their cable provider?
I missed last week's episode, I put the TW OnDemand FX channel on, hoping I could catch it before tonight's episode, there was only the first episode of "Coven"listed. WTF?
I rebooted both of my cable boxes, that didn't help, only the first episode was listed.
- Jessica looks good this season.
Third episode went to far you can tell they are making it up as they go along...
A good horror story is based in reality...
Where the hell is the male nudity?
- Kathy Bates hissing, "Liiiiies". Can't top that.
- "So let's see, in one episode we have Incest, Bestiality, Arson, Voodoo, Slavery, Devil Worship and Patti Lupone!"
Each more horrible than the last!!!!
- AHS is not available on TW inDemand. I'm not sure how long it will take for new episodes to appear. We ended up buying last weeks episode on itunes.
- Where did Queen Lange say next season would be her last?
- [quote] Sidibe is masturbating on my TV screen!!!!
Lawdy, MY EYESSSS!!! That was so wrong. I don't even get why she was doing that? Why not just have the Minotaur fuck you?
I have to admit, Gabourey is a HORRIBLE actress. She just doesn't get into a character. I feel like I'm seeing Gabourey Sidibe playing Gabourey Sidibe.
[quote] Kathy Bates hissing, "Liiiiies". Can't top that.
My FAVORITE scene of the show. Kathy totally gets the show, and she played her role to the hilt. She absolutely flourishes in every scene, with the exception of her scenes with Sidibe.
[quote] This coven doesn't need a new Supreme. It needs a new rug.
Another actress who "gets" the camp factor of the show. Lange is really getting into her groove, and she'd BETTER get an Emmy for this season, because she's really delivering.
And Riff Raff in the background? Sheer perfection.
[quote] Madison in the preview for next week seeing her feet sticking out of the carpet like that focusing on her silver high heels... is that an homage to "The Wizard of Oz"... The Wicked Witch of the East's feet sticking out from under Dorothy's house? If it is, it's a good reference!
So many references in this episode.
I got Wizard of Oz, Carrie, Rocky Horror Picture Show, Frankenstein... it's like a conglomeration!
[quote] What did we think of the new neighbor boy?
Fucking hotness. I hope he turns out to be gay, just to spite his mother! That's totally something Murphy would do.
- Lange retiring:
- Neighbour boy has to be gay - he didn't look twice at Madison. That, or Murphy is going to try a forbidden love story between him and Nan.
"Ms Goode, please tell your little "special needs person" to stay out of my yard."
"Mrs. Ramsey - we don't call her "special" ... we call her Mongoloid."
- she is a GODDESS. if she only does one more season of AH so be it. she is allowed to go out on her own terms.
- Lange is a class act. Go out on top before the show goes down, I say. I only hope they give her a character and story that will somehow eclipse her previous incarnations, which is a tall order. Fiona appears to be a culmination of sorts of the last two, Constance and Jude wrapped into one "Supreme" being. But Lange has contributed much to the storytelling, giving Murphy some ideas and suggestions that he has followed up on. Hopefully, they'll both come up with the best way to end this journey.
- How the fuck did she lose the Emmy for Asylum? That fact alone speaks volumes for the Emmy organization.
- "Don't you wanna love me?"
- I don't think the new guy is gay. He's like a wolf in a hen house next to the coven's school. There are so many sexual opportunities for him there that a gay storyline is not really feasible. Not to mention the fact that there is only one other male in the series more or less. Oh and Jamie Brewer is the only student who hasn't had sex on screen yet. That has to change,people with Down's syndrome need some too.
It would be a better story point if Nan is the real supreme. In her fucked up/sloppy state,Fiona reading the signals incorrectly would be rich. That and the fact that she doesn't know about the resurrection spell they used on Evan Peters. Miss Roberts days are probably not done just yet on Coven.
- Ryan explains it all
- Queenie was diddling her button to arouse the Minotaur. Her human voodoo doll power inflicts pleasure just as it does pain.
- Great episode but I could have done without that scene where Precious is pleasuring herself.
That being said, Lily Rabe is awesome!
I cannot wait for LuPone to get hers!
- My God, but this show is good! This is just great television. Totally over the top and crazy, but not stupid or cheezy. Sexy, violent, horrific, spooky, but incredibly funny and ironic.
And the cast is AMAZING. Jessica Lange blows me away. Angela Bassett is at her crazy best and Kathy Bates is brilliant as always. Those actresses must love doing this crazy shit. This is Bette Davis-level stuff on steroids.
The younger actresses are less than impressive, unfortunately. With the exception of Nan, they all act like they're going to the mall. There's no guts. No poison. Are there no young actresses in Hollywood who can keep up with Lange, Bassett, Bates? Even at there age Jessica Lange was acting circles around Hollywood.
Gabourey Sibididibby is a terrible, terrible actress. It's become painfully obvious that her performance in Precious was a total fluke.
- Kathy Bates hissed "Lieeees" the exact same way when a crew member told her the craft service table was closed.
I'm sorry I know it's mean and stupid but somebody had to say it.
- Kathy Bates: "Lieeesss!"
That was the highlight of the episode. God, I Love her!
- I'm loving Gabby. Her acting is so bad that it makes for high camp.
Sarah Paulson, who was the star of Asylum, is just an afterthought this season.
This episode was tied for best ever, along with the Halloween episode from the first season.
- [quote]I like the new theme song that accompanies this season... it's a woman's voice la la'ing. Anyone know who it is? I've searched and been unable to find…
Who the fuck do you think it is? Jesus Christ, the stupid questions people ask...
- And yet so far no one has mentioned that FrankenKyle's mom was Mare Winningham?
- [quote]I'm loving Gabby. Her acting is so bad that it makes for high camp.
Her acting isn't really bad. It's her face. She is so heavy in the face, it doesn't move. She is expressionless. I'm liking her character.
- Mare was a LOT better in this than she was in mega-turd, "Under the Dome." It's interesting to compare fine actors like Mare and Dean Norris in shit like "UTD" versus their performances in quality projects such as AHS and "Breaking Bad."
I think she actually got more screen time in "UTD," though. Poor Mare. She barely gets her face on camera before she gets snuffed in both shows.
- [quote]I really, really hate to give any praise to Ryan Murphy, but this type of show may just be perfect for him as a writer and producer.
I agree with everything you say -- although some of his worst traits still show up in these one-season stories. Like making characters act like complete and total idiots to advance the plot. To wit: Zoe bringing Boy Frankenstein, who's very clearly not in his right mind or body, to see his mother. She'd have to have a sub-literate IQ to even entertain that notion.
- Ryan's the definition of hit-and-miss. When he's good, he makes some of the most entertaining tv ever...when he's bad, he gives us shit like Glee and The New Normal. I can't hate on him, though. He has the balls to go where very few writers/showrunners would ever consider going. I admire that in a person.
- Well, r512, can you make a suggestion as to what to do with Frankentard? Dump him by the side of the road? Return him to the morgue? Take him back home to Miss Whatshername's School for Wannabe Wayward Witches?
Perhaps it might make sense to leave him with Stevie WitchNicks, but it was obvious she was hot for him, and Zoe liked him, so leaving him in the swamp was a no-go.
She'd met the mother and based on what she'd seen of her and his home life, it made more sense than the other alternatives.
- Oooops, I got my seasons confused but frankly...the show is just too dark.
- My take is that Zoe is so new to being a witch that she doesn't act "witchy" like the other girls. She's still insecure and figuring herself out like most teens her age. Bringing Kyle to his mom was her way of trying to ease her guilt over his death. Also, she's trying to be a good person but doesn't really know how to that yet.
- [quote]Oooops, I got my seasons confused but frankly...the show is just too dark.
STOP WATCHING IT, THEN.
The show is called American HORROR Story. It's so tiresome when you pussies come here and whine about it being too horrifying.
- [quote] It's so tiresome when you pussies come here and whine about it being too horrifying.
That hardly happens often enough for you to be "tired" of it, idiot.
- I JESUS NAME STOP TAKING PICTURES RIGHT NOW!!!
- The first two seasons were more creepy/scary, but this one is more FUN. Camp to the heavens. Jessica, Kathy, Angela...sublime, and they 'get' it. It was cool seeing Christine Ebersole (hopefully not for the last time) and it's kind of funny seeing Patti LuPone playing that religious nut.
I don't mind Madison, but Zoe is a bore and Precious--lord help her, she can't do anything convincingly other than crunch chips.
I forget Sarah Paulson is on this season until she pops up whining about getting pregnant. I did LOVE seeing Josh Hamilton as her naked hubby. I've had a crush on him since All My Children.
Mare feeling up her zombie son is one of the creepiest things ever on this show.
Lily Rabe is fucking amazing. She is going to be TROUBLE this season.
- [quote]I really, really hate to give any praise to Ryan Murphy
He's an openly gay man in the entertainment industry who goes out of his way to cast openly gay actors, as well as a number of other minorities.
- In Jesus' name, how on earth were they allowed to show a big ol' jar of "baby gravy" on national TV?
I hope that "vicious gash" Emma Roberts stays dead and buried. I don't want her coming back like that girl in season one who was buried and then came back to life. Like Fiona said, "Bury her deep!"
- The girl in season 1 died in the murder house and her ghost was stuck there.
- [quote]I agree with everything you say -- although some of his worst traits still show up in these one-season stories. Like making characters act like complete and total idiots to advance the plot. To wit: Zoe bringing Boy Frankenstein, who's very clearly not in his right mind or body, to see his mother. She'd have to have a sub-literate IQ to even entertain that notion.
First, she's a kid and had great guilt about what happened to him. Second, the Mother just sat there and told her she was in the process of killing herself when she called from grief. Third, it's a fucking TV show about witches and the living dead.
- Evan Peters has a hot little body on him.
- I hate Ryan Murphy too. With a passion. But I've been LOVING this season of AHS. As much as I dislike him we seem to share some of the same fetishes.
- Boring season. I've yet to be scared. It's just camp and badly written.
- If Emma Roberts character was such a big star, wouldn't the papparazzi constantly be dogging her?
- [quote]I hate Ryan Murphy too. With a passion.
Wow, you're life that much of a failure, huh?
- [quote]If Emma Roberts character was such a big star, wouldn't the papparazzi constantly be dogging her?
Is there an active, working paparazzi in New Orleans?
- [quote] Zoe bringing Boy Frankenstein, who's very clearly not in his right mind or body, to see his mother.
I can't tell if Evan Peters' character is supposed to be based on Frankenstein, or Rocky from The Rocky Horror Picture Show.
On the one hand, he's like Frankenstein because he's made up of body parts, and on the other hand he's like Rocky because he's beautiful and blond and dumb. Maybe he's a mix of the two.
Oh, and I too loved seeing the jar of semen. Although I don't think it's possible to collect that much of it and have it still in liquid form. It's kinda grossing me out just thinking about it!
- Yes, r525, but it isn't as nice as it was before those little witches decided to make it better. Before that, it was juuuuust right.
- [quote]If Emma Roberts character was such a big star, wouldn't the papparazzi constantly be dogging her?[/quote]
I think it has been stated a few times that she a "big star" in quotes because while she was one, she hasn't done a film in a while. Plus, I don't think it's public knowledge that she's there.
[quote]Zoe bringing Boy Frankenstein, who's very clearly not in his right mind or body, to see his mother. She'd have to have a sub-literate IQ to even entertain that notion[/quote]
I hate Zoe with a passion because she is boring and dumb. I cut her some slack because she was a normal person who didn't know any of this stuff existed a few weeks or even possibly days ago. Her blabbing to the cops was a normal reaction but she didn't know Fiona could wipe their minds. Her taking Kyle to his grief stricken mother was a normal reaction, she didn't know she was having sex with him.
However, the fact that she goes to a school for witches but still hasn't bothered to take Misty to them since Misty wants to meet people like her is pretty stupid and the most obvious thing any normal person would do. That is lazy writing. They could have at least had her make it clear she didn't trust her or some other random excuse. The only reason Fiona came to the school was because of Misty's death.
- Will Ryan try and resurrect Finn for a big finale?
- Zoe is horrible. Fsrmiga was great in series one, but here her performance is very similar to what she did in the truly awful The Bling Ring.
I think Fiona's interpretation of how a Supreme works, with energy sapped by the next in line, is based in paranoia. It's strange how there's a subjective element to who the Supreme is as well, suggesting that Fiona isn't even meant to be the Supreme.
I hope that not every character who dies is resurrected. Lowers the stakes a bit. I predict a Nan vs. Fiona rivalry. Or it turns out that Nan is all-knowing. Like Pepper.
- r528...Madison stated in ep 1 that when her powers started getting stronger, her "team" sent her to the school so she could harness them while telling the public she was in rehab.
- I've watched the show. It's entertaining enough, but nothing great. The New Orleans locations are well-used.
The greatest hiss(sssssssssssssss) ever on television.
- Emma Roberts is hot.
- Was Christine Ebersole playing Lange's character's mother or was she just her mentor? My dog started barking at something she saw out the window during that scene and I missed some of the dialogue.
I do hope we see more of Christine in flashbacks, she was very good.
- Ebersole's character was the supreme witch, whose powers were fading as Fiona's were growing. Fiona didn't want to wait for her turn, so she killed her.
- "...suggesting that Fiona isn't even meant to be the Supreme."
Interesting theory, r535 - that may explain why Fiona needed Nan to find Delphine for her.
Maybe we're all being guided in the wrong direction. Maybe since Marie Lavreau has conquered immortality, she's supposed to be the real Supreme.
- While I love Lange, if she wants to leave, I think I'd be happy with Kathy Bates taking her place.
- I'm available.
- Still don't get the main credit billing for this show. Angela Basset has been featured prominently in every episode and is a "Special Guest Star" billed in minor credits; Frances Conroy has been on once briefly and will be on next week, but has been billed as a main cast member from the beginning. Strange.
- Watch this clip of a tour guide's exposition on the Lalaurie legend. It ends on a very strange note.
- I wonder if there's a lot more in store for Sarah Paulson's character. So far, it's a real comedown from Lana Banana.
- [quote]Still don't get the main credit billing for this show.
It's billed as a series, not per episode. It doesn't occur to you that Frances Conroy might be featured more than Angela Bassett for the remaining episodes?
- Two things from last show:
1) Witches often exhibit more than one power but have to have all seven before being the Supreme (so perhaps Madison wasn't the Supreme-in-waiting)
2) Did Minotaur have a hooved hand first then a human hand as he started to take Queenie? Queenie is the direct descendant of Tituba.
Best line of the night:
Joan: That girl threw a knife at me! It barely missed my head!
Fiona: She needs to work on her aim.
- [quote]It's billed as a series, not per episode
Yes it is, honey. It's per episode. Go back and watch.
- Ryan knew we wanted to see Evan's ass, so he gave it to us. Okay, why not have him portray a gay character next??
- [quote]Emma Roberts is hot.
For a sociopath. She was arrested to beating and biting Evan.
- Murphy said that Paulson's character is not named Cordelia by accident.
Think King Lear.
- Cordelia's a pretty thankless role.
- Murphy on next week's Halloween episode of a two-parter:
"Cordelia has a horrible, horrible event that may be one of the hardest things Sarah Paulson has ever shot, which is saying something on this show. It’s plucked from the headlines!"
- r472, and it will be a homage with a Ryan Murphy twisted twist since it looks like the witch's corpse will be molested in some way by the mute majordomo.
- I am eating this show up with a spoon. It's the best thing Ryan Murphy has ever done. ZOMG, the actresses! Totally queening out over every amazing, campy scene.
- They're considering spinning this show off, with a totally new AHS in addition for 2014. Ryan says he already knows the plot of the next season.
- [quote] may be one of the hardest things Sarah Paulson has ever shot, which is saying something on this show. It’s plucked from the headlines!"
I hope it's not Gabby Sidibe in a hoody getting shot by Cordelia.
- The part of this episode that I really didn't understand is why Queenie did what she did.
- She saw dat torso.
- Opinions please, So who here thinks Spalding is going to sleep with the dead body or young Fiona...or maybe both?
- I love the fact that after the brutality towards women in the last season that we are seeing the men in this universe are pretty much completely voiceless.
- R560, Queenie was a virgin and wanted to get some dick.
- [quote]Queenie was diddling her button to arouse the Minotaur.
This might be one of the funniest things I've ever read on Datalounge.
Thank you, whoever you are.
- Where can I get a bottle of Evan Peters' baby gravy?
- You're all just jealous because my new boyfriend is a Minotaur.
- Queen Marie is gonna be none too pleased that Queenie has been messing with her ManBeast!
- My partner thought that the Minotaur killed Queenie....he didn't right?
Queenie is a "human voodoo doll"--what she does to herself manifests itself on her victims. She was masturbating herself in order to get the Minotaur sexually aroused so he would get hard and fuck her.
If Queenie is a direct descendent of Tituba, perhaps Marie Laveau IS Tituba?
Just LOVE this season of AHS! Soooo totally off the hook!
- Marie's "decayed chic" funky salon/crib is so punk grunge who gives a flying fuck cool looking. The dingy, scuffed up walls that haven't see a paint roller since 1960 are to die for, and the gaping holes of exposed wood slats where the plaster has collapsed really makes a bold statement I do declare.
- R571, Would you like a Coca-Cola?
- Why yes I would thank you as long as you serve the Mexican variety.
- [quote]Queenie is a "human voodoo doll"--what she does to herself manifests itself on her victims. She was masturbating herself in order to get the Minotaur sexually aroused so he would get hard and fuck her.
Ah! I totally didn't get that. I am clearly an idiot.
- That fat girl is SO fat, it just grosses me out, dude.
- Who, though, wouldn't want Quuenie's power? I'd be masturbating myself in front of Matt Bomer and Luke Macfarlane every chance I got.
- [quote] If Queenie is a direct descendent of Tituba, perhaps Marie Laveau IS Tituba?
I'm wondering about that too. But it seems Marie Laveau knows about the witch coven and if she was Tituba, I think she would have recruited Queenie to be on the voodoo side right away. Maybe it will be revealed later on that she is Tituba.
- Emma Roberts will rise again as the bride of Frankenstein....but will she have the aphro?
- Ryan has said that there's much in store for Cordelia.
Yes, I love this show. I wish more people I knew in the RW watched it, though. I'm surrounded by Big Bang and Top Chef fans. Sigh.
- Marie is not Tituba as Tituba was part of the witch tribe and learned necromancy from shamans while Marie is the "Supreme" for the louisanna voodoo tribe.
Random things that I NEVER expected to see: Precious getting fucked by a minotaur.
I FUCKING LOVE IT!
- [quote]I'm surrounded by Big Bang and Top Chef fans. Sigh.
Are you also surrounded by people without DVRs?
- Jessica Lange is giving one of the best performances of her career here.
From the subject matter she's tackling head-on (age and the desperation one exhibits to remain young - from botox to plastic surgery), to the way she is looking (natural and more beautiful than she's looked in years), to her battles with some of the finest titans to ever grace the big or small screens, to her majestic performance - and it is majestic, and darkly funny, scary and riveting, even wrenching - she has already, in just three episodes, topped the work she's done in the last 15 years in film and television (yes, even"Grey Gardens").
I've rewatched "The Replacements" (one of AHS's finest episodes) and have been floored every single time.
She is on an entirely different level, pouring her heart and soul into this character, and out for all to see. She literally needs to prove nothing else now. The season and her character could all go downhill from here and this would be some of my favorite work from her since "Titus".
- Seriously the show is simply too gross and too dark. It's not really watchable.
- Thank you, r584. Now let the ones who like the show enjoy it and you can go watch the last remaining episodes of Sean Saves The World.
- Oooooohhhh, Precious, child .... you in danger girl ..... that's Angela Bassett's man... minotaur.
- I can't be the only one hoping for a Luke and FrankenKyle hook up ....
Each season has been great thus far. Love the different tales each season with the 'repertory' cast.
- Your not r587
- Will this be the first season with no Zachary Qintp and Dylan McDermott? I know the season is still filming so I guess there's hope.
I thought they were both great last season. McDermott was really twisted and sad as Bloodyface Jr. and the final scene with him and Sarah Paulson is masterful.
- Quinto is on Broadway at the moment so I doubt he'll have time to be on it.
- Was Jessica Lange kind of lacking work for a period because she was too difficult to work with and no one would hire her? I remember hearing something about that.
- I liked it when Fiona said that she hates racists. Fiona's cool, but it's too bad that she's also pretty evil.
- no r591...she just got older and films roles slowed down. She's worked pretty steadily most of her life.
- IMDB hates Fiona because she voted for Obama.
- Jessica said that when she did "Grey Gardens," that reinvigorated her love for acting again, and that AHS has revived her career. Now an entirely new generation knows who she is.
- The BF and I have started calling the tv "that magic box."
- I love how Kathy Bates said "lies, lies, lies" when Lange told her all the jobs black people have held.
- R591, it was a combination of growing older and no longer being in demand, and not being terribly ambitious careerwise. Lange admitted this in the past, and once said in an interview that she'd rather be back on her farm in Minnesota with her family than be on a set in some far off location. I remember reading, perhaps in the same article, her agent at the time lamenting that he has a hard time getting her to say 'yes' to anything. You say 'no' too many times and people stop asking.
- Did they do something to Jessica's face in the first ep making her look younger?
- "LIES!" is already an internet meme.
Kathy is rekindling her career now. All these kids are looking up her old work. Honestly, older actresses should beg to be on this show.