U.S. soldiers in Afghanistan using Craigslist to have same sex hook ups with each other on base
American troops in Afghanistan are reportedly using Craigslist to solicit and arrange casual and discreet same sex sexual encounters, according to the Army Times...
"Sexual activities in a war zone are as old as wars themselves, but with the advent of Internet personal ads and social media sites, arranging a sexual encounter can become brazen, public and risky. Warnings from commanders, standard guidance for any unit headed to the war zone, appear to have fallen on deaf ears in many cases."
As a result, the Naval Criminal Investigative Service in Afghanistan is now having agents monitor such sites, and investigating any potential sexual encounters as violations of conduct. The Times told the story of one soldier:
"One Marine lance corporal...posted an advertisement on Craigslist for a sexual rendezvous. The guy he met at Camp Leatherneck, whom he thought was also looking to hook up, turned out to be an undercover agent with the NCIS."
The report then went on to explain:
"Online sex solicitation is technically not a crime under the UCMJ. However, commanders have the right to enact regulations that make it a punishable offense."
How so? While it may not be against any regulations to post a personal ad, "posting pornographic images on a public web or social media site is a chargeable offense," explained Erin Stattel, a press officer for International Security Assistance Force. "Adultery, pandering, and prostitution" are also on the list of violations. Commanders can also punish soldiers on a case-by-case basis under an article that bans conduct “to the prejudice of good order and discipline in the armed forces.” Take the above-mentioned lance corporal for example. Commanders charged him with three violations: "attempting to commit an offense in violation of the UCMJ; failing to obey an order or regulation, and pandering and prostitution." The soldier accepted the punishment gracefully, but did express some resentment to the Army Times:
"It was against the rules set forth by the base general, ... so they were doing their job, but what I don’t agree with is how they were pretty much searching for people to arrest."
As the report indicates, a majority of the Craigslist ads investigated by the NCIS are by men seeking other men. That does not necessarily mean that the agency is targeting gay soldiers. Retired Col. Dr. Elspeth Cameron “Cam” Ritchie, Army psychiatrist and chief clinical officer for the District of Columbia’s Department of Mental Health in Washington, offered a different explanation. She told the Army Times:
“When detached from home, without the ability to openly exercise relationships in a combat environment and with a fatalistic attitude, military members would be inclined to embrace risk-taking. These young men have high testosterone and, with the inability to quietly have a relationship, it is not surprising that they are willing to put themselves into that situation.”
UK's Daily Mail took it upon themselves to peruse many of the Craigslist pages in question, posting many racy screencaps on their site. The images depicted standard fare for any casual-sex-soliciting social network pages...disembodied torsos, genitals, and an overabundance of words such as "looking" and "discreet". Naturally, upon discovering news of these casual sexual encounters, conservative activists did not approve.
It never would have occurred to me that there was AFghanistan Craigslist.
[quote]the Naval Criminal Investigative Service in Afghanistan is now having agents monitor such sites, and investigating any potential sexual encounters as violations of conduct.
For many decadees, every gay man in the Navy and Marine Corps had to watch out for NCIS people everywhere they went. NCIS would follow every man they suspected of being gay. That all ended with DADT. Unless you were in the military you have no idea how welcome DADT was in view of what were the previous regulations. Thank you Bill Clinton for moving this forward. It was a major step toward what we have now with gays serving openly.
Why don't they just drill gloryholes like generations past?
How generous and enlightened of 'The Daily Mail' to promote this service in such detail.
Never mind Afghanistan or the US Military: CL's 'casual encounters' traffic in Middle England will soar! Grateful readers should express their thanks in letters to The Editor.
The ad they showed in the article with the BIG black box is still out there. And yes, the box had to be that big - what a fucking hog on that boy! Damn!
So they're setting up sting operations again? Wtf!
"Black Box guy" from the article. Nice meat indeed. Image link is NSFW, obviously.
If they can't get any cock or ass, the terrorists have won!!
This offends me. The military will turn over every rock to find a queer engaged in consensual sex that isn't hurting anyone. But what about all the non-consensual sex crimes bring perpetrated against women in the military?
So rape continues to be a significant problem that they somehow can't eradicate. But I bet they nip the gay sex in the bud. The witch hunts continue.
Next week on "NCIS", DiNozzo and McGee go undercover to smoke out Marine pole smokers!
I was stationed in Afghanistan and the only people I saw reprimanded/sent home for having sex were STRAIGHT. This is what equality looks like, folks. Gays aren't going to get away with hooking up when their straight counterparts are expected to follow the same rules.
I'm confused: are you supposed to be celibate while serving in the armed forces?
I think they said ads were OK but you couldn't have pictures showing genitals and other body parts. Although I also read sex for singles weren't allowed. There's some contradiction.
The dailymail rag tried to make it seem it's exclusively gay sex ads but there were also men seeking women and women ads as well.
link has some examples with pictures of ads.
The only place where celibacy is required is in deployed environments in which General Order 1 is enacted. GO 1 basically stipulates no sex or alcohol.
I wish there were more hot bi soldiers in the DC area.
And the Daily Mail is as pissed as ever that military gay/bi/curious or even straight and desperate men have a right to a CONSENTING adult sex life under extreme circumstances (AKA fighting a pointless war that politicians won't dare suit up for themselves).
NCIS were arrogant shits on that TV drama too.
Well, what do you expect in a place called Camp Leatherneck?
[quote]For many decadees, every gay man in the Navy and Marine Corps had to watch out for NCIS people everywhere they went.
I'm willing to bet that quite a few of the NCIS men were happy to hang out in gay bars while watching for gay sailors or marines.
Oh God. Learning your first three general orders is the first thing you do in basic training. You're supposed to have them memorized before you go. It's on the fucking back cover of your SMART book. Shit I remember being endlessly drilled on them. Has nothing to do with sex.
I still remember them today. General Order number one:
I will guard everything within the limits of my post and quit my post only when properly relieved.
It never has to be enacted. The three general orders are always active.
Having been recently discharged and home, never to leave my beloved home in Maine again, let burst your bubble and say this article is full of shit.
what do you mean r21? What do the general orders have to do with hookups?
It was a response to R15 saying this is covered by GO 1. And GO 1 needing to be activated.
[quote]I'm willing to bet that quite a few of the NCIS men were happy to hang out in gay bars while watching for gay sailors or marines.
So what's a guy to do when he's all "backed up"?
Americans are so sex phobic.
Bring all of our men and women home from Afghanistan and no one will need to worry about this.
Where is the link to Afghanistan m4m?
Since the WMD bullshit proves Bush (and Cheney, and Rice, et al) and congress LIED...
WHY is it so hard to believe that Obama (and Biden, and Clinton, et al) are also lying about Syria, Crimea, Iran...
Why? Why do we automatically believe one side and demonize the other?
[quote]Why do we automatically believe one side and demonize the other?
Because ONE SIDE is a proven pathological liar and sociopath, bigoted and evil... and the other side isn't?
I cant believe people show their faces on m4m Iraq.
Why not, some are really handsome
We need to set up a "welcome home" tour for the CL guys who return to the states.