Joni Mitchell ***SLAMS*** Canada Province Saying "an extremely bigoted community."
Joni Mitchell says she doesn't want anything to do with a museum or tribute in her hometown of Saskatoon.
"Saskatoon has always been an extremely bigoted community. It's like the deep south."
Joni Mitchell left Saskatoon more than four decades ago and has never been back.
You have to admire people that tell it like it is.
Uhh, Saskatoon is a CITY.
It's in the PROVINCE of Saskatchewan.
And you should've said "Canadian", not "Canada".
And why did you capitalize "province" and "saying"?
the horror! but but but I thought in CANADA, according to some posters here, there is NO bigotry and it's just a big garden of eden with snow on top?
Saskatoon is a cold, violent shithole.
I worship Joni but she seems to be losing it in her cranky old age.
Joni has been cranky for years but but I have to agree on her with this one.
Good for her! Most celebs eat that shit up, without any such concerns.
[quote]Joni Mitchell left Saskatoon more than four decades ago and has never been back.
Bullshit - I ran into her in the lobby of the Delta Bessborough Hotel in 2004 when I was in Saskatoon on business.
I kinda like it that bitch tells it like it is.
R10 what was she doing there?
You are close personal friends with Joni?
Nobody throws down like Joni. Nobody.
[quote] what was she doing there
She was saying:
You know you ain't bad looking
I like the way you hold your drinks
Come home with me honey
I ain't asking for no full length mink
Hey, where you going
Don't go yet
Your glass ain't empty and we just met
You're mean when you're loaded
I was raised on robbery
Oh come on, her comments are extremely cunty and reek of somebody who thinks VERY highly of herself. If Madonna, DL's favourite punching bag, made these comments, you'd be all over her like Joni on a pack of ciggies.
"I feel that it's very isolated, very unworldly, and doesn't grasp the idea of honour …There are so many things I want to do, that I should be doing, without getting sidetracked into these dubious and eventually nonexistent honours."
How did I miss THIS gem?:
"the museum was one thing I thought would be beneficial for people."
Never let the truth get in the way of a good story. That journalist seems only intent on pushing his readers' buttons.
R24, she thought a museum would be "beneficial" because, according to the journalist, she had asked for a cultural centre for the indigenous peoples to be included:
[bold]"At one point, there was a museum proposed to recognize her work. Mitchell had suggested it have a First Nations component. The idea eventually fell through.
"I feel that it's very isolated, very unworldly, and doesn't grasp the idea of honour …There are so many things I want to do, that I should be doing, without getting sidetracked into these dubious and eventually nonexistent honours," she said in an interview with the Saskatoon Star-Phoenix.
"Saskatoon has always been an extremely bigoted community. It's like the deep south, and the museum was one thing I thought would be beneficial for people."[/bold]
Reading between the (sloppy journalistic) lines it looks like that First Nations component was controversial, which would explain her comparing the locals to bigots in the deep south.
She appeared to be receptive to the honour at first but is now disenchanted after all the wrangling and false promises. Who can blame her.
She's just pissed because she could never find a word to rhyme with Saskatoon.
What's up with the growing number of dumbbells here?!
Read the fucking thread. Read the links,and if you don't know what you're talking about, don't post.
Thank You, R25, for literally spelling it out for R24.(MOOO!).
Was it going to be a Tree Museum? I hear you'd have to pay a dollar and a half just to see 'em.
Saskatoon is bitchin cold but sunny!
Like Winnipeg, Saskatoon has too many Injuns.
No wonder she slammed the shithole!
R25 are you saying her words were taken out of context?
That she was mis-quoted?
She was the only Canadian performer to REFUSE to perform at the Olympics in 2010, despite being in her home country.
How very DARE her, R31!
Here's an interview with Joni where she speaks about misunderstanding and fame. I love her. I agree with her on many things. I would like to hear her tell some stories, unlike Jian who missed many chances for an excellent follow up question.
Joni Mitchell is a nasty piece of work. No wonder her abandoned daughter abandoned her.
[R26] gifted us with:
"She's just pissed because she could never find a word to rhyme with Saskatoon."
and then we have:
what a maroon
Moon, June, spoon.
In a recent poll 100% of the population of Saskatoon said "Who's Joni Mitchell?"
I can fully understand people resenting this comment coming from a probable millionaire who has not lived in Saskatoon for decades.
Unfortunately, bigotry, public or private, exists in every community.
All her life Saskatoon was the dump she outgrew. Now they want to claim her and put her in a little box to justify their ways, and all she did was suggest they include some First Nations elements in it and they reacted in a racist manner, so she bitched at them. She's right, she is bigger than they are, and there is something deeply disturbing about their attempts to own her now, to reduce her to their size. It's like putting a David Sedaris Hall at Liberty University.
Or having a Jesse Helms and Armistead Maupin statue in Raleigh.
She's right. The prairie provinces are full of fucking ignorant whities of Scots, English and Ukrainian descent, who all feel comfortable sharing the racism openly, even in work environments.
Joni is awesome. The prairies suck.
[quote]You would be grumpy, too, if you had Morgellons.
She had it for a while, then it went away.
She seems quite close-minded. She doesn't believe that the town might have changed since she left?
And I think she lives in LA, you know where there are race riots all over the place. LA is such an non-bigoted place.
She is dumb.
I don't think her Morgellons "went away" so much as the intensity of the symptoms diminished.
I love that Joni really knows how to throw down. Not indiscriminately, but when she sees a falsehood. Then she lays waste.
She's coreect, I know some gays that had to flee from the shit hole because of intolerable bullying and abuse.
The chick is twisted.
No regrets, Coyote.
[quote]I don't think her Morgellons "went away" so much as the intensity of the symptoms diminished.
Which would mean that there were fewer brightly colored fibers inexplicably growing underneath her skin than before. So she can handle a few of them in there, just not a whole lot.
But why the fuck would a museum dedicated to Mitchell have "First Nation components"? Or is she one of those people whose great-great grandmother was an Indian Princess?
She thinks she's a Swedish Sami, that's why.
Oh, isn't that that rapist piece of shit interviewing her?
Yet when she was a kid in Maidstone, she went to every wedding in that little town.
Joni wrote many great songs; I'm a fan of her work, but she's a stuck-up, egotistical diva.
She should think highly of herself, she is extremely gifted musically and artistically.
I had a date with a gentleman with anger management issues who was Joni's #1 fan. I guess they deserve each other?
She also nixed a biopic in which 3 female singers would have been profiled; she was just one third of the subject matter, yet she demanded the project be abandoned because they wanted to hire Taylor Swift to portray her. Who the fuck does she think she is? The queen of fucking everything? Good Lord woman, get over yourself already.
And frankly, though I love her 1970s songs, all of her work after the 1970s ended was disappointing.
If anyone needed to be criticized here, it's the OP. Not Joni Mitchell, not even Saskatoon.
There are far more bigoted cities in Canada than Saskatoon, believe me.
As a fan of her since the 1970s I do have some perspective, R66. I have all her albums on vinyl from her peak period, I've seen her in concert, studied her compositions and watched her interviews. You may now die in a cold blue steel and sweet fire.
Name one R69. And don't say Thunder Bay. I've been there and I know you're lying.
We hate the bitch too.
How exactly is it that she manages to be so self loathing and STILL holier than thou at the same time?
Now that's a pure talent.
[quote]She's right. The prairie provinces are full of fucking ignorant whities of Scots, English and Ukrainian descent, who all feel comfortable sharing the racism openly, even in work environments.
R46 is an Injun.
[quote]But why the fuck would a museum dedicated to Mitchell have "First Nation components"?
Because the fucking Indians want to get in on everything, that's why!
"We were here first! You stole our land! Now you owe us five billion dollars a year to make up for it, and everything has to be for us, waaah waaaah waaaahhh!"
It's fucking sickening.
Amen, R76. So over their bitching and moaning. And now in cities like Saskatoon and Regina you have to worry about gang initiations where they kidnap and kill white people. And yes - it's happened. The police won't admit the linked case is gang-related, for example. More recently a truck driver was kidnapped, robbed and beaten with a hammer. It's a growing problem - one no one seems to acknowledge.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks she's full of shit.
I think she's tremendous!
[quote] She demanded the project be abandoned because they wanted to hire Taylor Swift to portray her. Who the fuck does she think she is? The queen of fucking everything?
She clearly knows that Swift is a talentless, tone deaf cunt and shouldn't have a career as a head waitress at Denny's, let alone be a famous singer.
And yet she did a song with Janet Jackson...
She let JJ sample her. And Janet has actual talent.
She sang on JJ's song.
No, R83, she did not.
JJ **sampled** the existing recording of Mitchell song "Big Yellow Taxi" (played at a slightly faster speed than the original) and built "Got Til It's Gone" around it.
Both Jackson and Swift are examples of the talentless hacks clogging up the industry. I'm not a fan of Mitchell's, really, but she has always been outspoken about the deplorable state of popular music, and I agree completely.