Attention: Superman and Batman crossover movie announced to be released in 2015!
Christian Bale won't be returning as Batman, no real loss there.
Henry Cavill, however, will be returning. And Christopher Nolan isn't directing, Zack Snyder will be directing. Pity, because Snyder is a terrible director; I wish Nolan can direct it.
How amazing would it be if Jake Gylenhaal became the new Batman?
I'll never ask for anything else again. EVER.
Great. More comic book hero bullshit.
It's what makes money, R3.
Yeah, if people like you stopped going to these stupid movies, maybe we could see some grownup films instead.
Calm down, R5. You'll get your grown-up art-house oscar-bait at the end of the year. Jeez, as if they don't make those kinds of films at all anymore.
Which guy will bottom? That's all I care about from this story.
Or are we supposed to believe that all superheros are versatile?
How the fuck do you know what I watch, R5?
I've got news for you: I don't go to superhero movies - I catch some of it on cable, that's about it.
I don't see the problem in other people wanting to watch it; it's escapism. Do you expect every movie to be some avant-garde film about Soviet-era Russia?
I was stating a fact about studios and why they do it. It's the same reason we're cursed with Adam Sandler.
The dumbing down of movie audiences continues.
Batman is all bottom, he has to give up control somehow
BTW, my post @R2 has NOTHING to do with wanting to see Jake as Batman and everything to do with those two and their supposed history.....
I love a good popcorn movie. I just wish we could have more that don't involve people in capes. I guess I should be used to Hollywood laziness by now.
I'll only see it if I like the cast. Lately the action movies have had pathetic casts.
Nolan is a lousy director...he has become lazy, relying on convoluted plots and deus ex machina plot holes.... most of his heradled movies, while innovative, were created in the editing room and not on the set. He's a gimmick hack as much as M. Night Shamalamdingdong
It seems that Hollywood studios are taking inspiration from internet fandoms/geekdoms so much now that they decided to make a slash fiction movie.
R1, no it won't. The director and script writer are both big-time homophobes.
Link to their homophobia, R16.
They have a gay guy as Superman, don't they? Granted, a closeted one, but still gay.
People are so over Nolan, but here we go again, Nolan will produce, and Goyer will write a shitty script for this.
[quote]The dumbing down of movie audiences continues.
Meanwhile, you applaud television for airing such educational shows as "RuPaul's Drag Race."
Nolan wasn't innovative. He just took Frank Miller's crap, sucked any comic book element out of it, and put it up on the screen.
I will not be watching, especially if Nolan and Bale aren't involved. Henry Cavill can't carry a movie by himself.
They're trying to compete with "The Avengers" one of the biggest and best films of all-time. They don't understand that people took to "The Avengers" in big part because they were sick of Nolan's dark, gritty, realistic comic book film world. "The Avengers" was bright, campy, humorous, and had everything that was missing from "The Dark Knight" series.
[quote]I will not be watching, especially if Nolan and Bale aren't involved.
You actually thought Bale was a good Batman? What was with that ridiculous smoker's voice when he put the cape on?
Nolan's films aren't the comic book. He couldn't put the majority of the comic's villains into them because they wouldn't work in the environment he created. A film that was based on comic would have been able to.
That's why they're adding Batman in this movie, r21, so that Cavill doesn't have to carry the whole thing by himself.
r22, the last time people wanted to inject "campy humor" into Batman we got Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.
Batman is not supposed to be campy. It's supposed to be dark, gritty and gothic.
If you want cheese go watch Captain America or the Fantastic Four. Leave Batman to his gloomy self.
[r19] Where the hell did you get the idea that I watch the RuPaul show? Reality television is just as bad as these fucking comic book movies.
I enjoy a good popcorn movie as the next person but I don't want a constant diet of it.
The films that come to the art houses/oscar bait are the kind of movies we would see ALL year, so anything intelligent or "good" has been pushed out by endless loud, CGI pieces of shit that offer only explosions, gun fights and mindless action.
[quote][R22], the last time people wanted to inject "campy humor" into Batman we got Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.
"Batman Forever" was a hit, as were Burton's films, which were also camp.
[quote]Batman is not supposed to be campy. It's supposed to be dark, gritty and gothic.
How many comics have you read? Do you realize how many eras, how many interpretations of Batman there are?
The dark, gritty, gothic stuff started in the '80s thanks to Frank Miller.
r27, Burton struck just the right amount of grit and camp. "Batman Returns" is my favorite in the entire franchise, for example. But you cannot defend Batman 3 and 4 to me. Just because something is a commercial hit does not make it inherently good.
Honey, there are millions of films that are "intelligent" and "good" produced every year. They're just not made by Hollywood. Honestly, do you just rely on your local AMC to see movies?
Film is better than ever today, it's just not made by Hollywood. Hollywood buys up the independent features and distributes them.
People have been brainwashed into think that every film that is made, or is going to be made, is going to be made by Hollywood. Hollywood is only good for CGI films.
Talking about Oscars -- "The King's Speech" "The Artist," "The Queen," were not produced by Hollywood.
You really should make use of the internet and find amazing new films to watch.
Batman is about darkness and pain. Always has been, always will be. Cavill was laughable as Superman, they need to recast.
r28, I agree about Burton, and that was actually what I was originally referring to. Take note that I said 'camp' among other things. It's one element that should be added to the bunch.
People bring up the commercial aspect, and I was pointing out that the third film did actually make money, in fact, "The Avengers" is sort of like the third Batman. "The Avengers" is fun and bright. It's not pretentious. I love Batman having a social-tone to it, and I do love the gothic element, but Nolan's were not gothic, and they were pretentious as hell. It's as if he didn't want to make a comic book film, it was beneath him.
I want a cerebral "Batman" movie, but for Christ's sake, remind us that it's based on a comic book, and lighten the fuck up a tad!
How much you want to bet James Franco auditions for Batman?!
Cavill could be good under the right role and right direction. Being Superman was too obvious of a choice. Just because someone makes the spitting image doesn't mean it's right for them. He should have done some indie films and build up his reputation beyond The Tudors.
R30 = Brandon Routh
Brandon, we have discussed this before. You need to step away from the computer and go on some auditions, son. That is the only way you'll ever really get over this.
Well Brandon Routh was a better Superman, if you want to know the truth.
Henry is going to be full-on bald then. I looked at his hairline in the Comic Con pictures and it's deteriorating quickly.
[quote]Well Brandon Routh was a better Superman, if you want to know the truth.
Yes, Brandon, we get it already.
[quote]Henry Cavill can't carry a movie by himself.
I didn't realize he was ever expected to. I mean wasn't he surrounded by Oscar winners/nominees specifically because he himself is there just to look pretty?
Man of Steel may have made a lot of money, but the movie sucked beyond belief. It got nowhere near the amount of positive reviews batman did.
And Cavill again? Even people who liked it thought he was nothing to write home about.
[quote]Great. More comic book hero bullshit.
Exactly. How much more of this shit do we need?
Man of Steel has barely broken even. They still haven't recouped the advertising budget yet.
[quote]Henry is going to be full-on bald then. I looked at his hairline in the Comic Con pictures and it's deteriorating quickly.
Such bullshit. You can go after the guy's acting and lack of charisma/personality and have a valid point, but this nonsense about going bald?
The shit he puts in his hair will inevitably reveal more scalp, but his hairline is fine. This was taken today (Stop acting like he looks like the guy on the right):
[quote]They still haven't recouped the advertising budget yet.
Brandon, the film has recouped its budget in product tie-ins before it even hit theaters.
You are just being silly now. No wonder you can't get hired or anything. You have no idea how this industry works.
It did so horribly that now they've announced a second one.
Why exactly do people want it to fail?
R43 = Henry, on minute ten.
You know what this means? More beards for Henry!
R45, as I've just told you, he's going to be in another Superman movie. Will also be filming Man from UNCLE with Armie Hammer. He's now got a sizable following.
Get used to it.
R47 = Henry, still on minute ten.
Arnie's on number twelve.
All of Synder's films include homophobic content. He said, in Premiere magazine, that he purposely tried to create a gay panic reaction to the villain in 300.
Goyer is the 'writer' who's turned DaVincvi into a ladies man, while including a gay pedophile in his story.
R41 is right. The studio considered MOS not to have met their expectations.
Henry isn't even at five r48. You might want to get used to seeing his face.
I'm not Henry, R48, just stating a fact.
He's going to be in yet another blockbuster in the future and he's been discovered by people who are now obsessed with him and downloading The Tudors and every shit movie he's done prior to MoS to see what they've missed.
Better add some minutes to that timer.
[quote]Nolan is a lousy director...he has become lazy, relying on convoluted plots and deus ex machina plot holes....
And how does this have anything to do with direction? Seems to me like the writer is the one responsible for plot and any resulting plot holes.
The budget was $225,000,000.
It has made $280,888,962 so far in the US alone.
[quote]Henry is going to be full-on bald then. I looked at his hairline in the Comic Con pictures and it's deteriorating quickly.
You weren't joking! My goodness!
R57 Keep telling yourself that. Pictures like the one at R55 don't lie.
Maybe he can get a toupee when it gets too bad in a few years.
Superman and Batman together? OK, talk about jumping the shark.
Time to let these silly comic book movies lay to rest.
Ironically, I remember hearing that Christopher Reeve also had problems with thinning hair and had to wear a wig for Superman and its sequels.
I thought Cavill WAS wearing a wig in MOS.
Uh, Superman and Batman have teamed up before r59. This doesn't come close to jumping the shark. Not that I really give a shit about this movie, I'm just saying.
Oh dear r54. That was the production budget. Add another 100 million for advertising. A sequel has been greenlighted in the same way Green Lantern 2 was greenlighted, it is all done for legal reasons.
His hairline may recede a bit, but he won't go Jude Law bald.
Here he is with his brothers, so you get an idea of how far back it may go. He'll be OK. Maybe a little added here and there, but nothing major:
R63, link please.
[quote]His hairline may recede a bit, but he won't go Jude Law bald.
What do you know? We have a psychic fangurl who thinks she can predict the future!
I'm no fangurl. I haven't even seen the movie, but I think to say he'll go completely bald like Jude Law is ridiculous. And even if he did, it won't happen for a good ten years.
I don't know, but the one on the left and the second from the right in r66 look like they'll be closing in on "Jude Law bald" fairly soon. But maybe Henry will take after the other brothers.
The one thing that got me when I was trying to find the picture of his brothers was the look of the mother. My aunt has five boys and has that same look: Utter Exhaustion.
R29, just to clarify - are you saying that the best films around are NOT made by Hollywood?
Snyder is quoting Frank Miller's DKR as the inspiration for the characters. That book has the WORSE depiction of both characters, and they're enemies.
WB is destroying these characters.
Will Henry Cavill let rip some eye-watering Super Farts in this film? Preferably into Batman's hungry mouth.
R72, are you one of those who thinks Henry has a womanly butt?
I wonder which high profile British or Australian actor will be cast as Batman? A given being they won't cast some lesser talented American.
I certainly am, R73. Henry Cavill has a delicious womanly butt, through which he lets rip some unholy stinkers.
R75, why do you bring up such a disgusting topic in relation to his beautiful butt?
Is love of flatulence really a fetish or is it just the ass from whence it came?
R76, I like the thought of the vile, sizzling gas bombs being pinched off through the lips of Henry's lusciously round and muscular butt. Occasionally he apologies for his farty transgressions: "Excuse me Sir!" he often exclaims in his clipped, posh British accent, right as he cracks a string of bubbly rippers into the well-filled seat of his pants.
I'm both disgusted and intrigued by R78.
Cris Nolan may be the better director, but Snyder is the most fuckable. He is one hot piece of fuck.
Wow, none of those Cavill brothers look alike at all. It looks like a pic of a frat house reunion.
Get laid, r79, and then you wouldn't.
They do all look different, but all appear to have their mother's jawline. I wonder at what number delivery, she just said "For fuck's sake! Another one!?!
Are my posts posting?
R79, he does this in all threads about guys with womanly asses, like Henry's, and talk to another poster (perhaps himself) who also shares the same proclivities. It's not pretty and distracts from the specimen itself: the body of Cavill and the other celebs.
"Are my posts posting?"
At least on, R84.
We should all be so lucky to be this "bald" unless he's wearing a piece:
Yeah, he is totally losing his hair. They probably had to put in a bunch pieces for the film.
Henry was fat as a kid.
[italic]Snyder is quoting Frank Miller's DKR as the inspiration for the characters. That book has the WORSE depiction of both characters, and they're enemies.
WB is destroying these characters.[/italic]
The "Dark Knight" Nolan trilogy = Frank Miller. The look, tone, backstory, etc, are Miller's.
[quote]Cris Nolan may be the better director, but Snyder is the most fuckable. He is one hot piece of fuck.
Photo, cause I ain't finding any fuckable ones.
I wonder if he will pudge out for the next one. Not be so trim
Link to fat kid, please.
R100, here you go. His nickname was "fat Cavill" when he was quite young and, when older "girly arse".
Fat Cavill vs. Non-talent Routh.
I suppose one can always diet.
OK, now post the picture of him when he was actually fat. All I see is a kid who's built like a little rugby player.
R105, that's fat. Do you like bears and other fats? What I see is just a fat kid not a rugby player.
Cavill was the one who said the kids called him "Fat Cavill." Maybe he made it up in an effort to give himself some depth and gravitas, or maybe it's true, but either way, it's not the fans who first said he looked fat.
Then you've never seen the average rugby player. He's not even big enough to be a prop.
R107, I don't know whether he made up "Fat Cavill", but what I do know for certain that one of his former classmates said he was known as "girly arse". She posted that before he was very well known.
Cavill is attempting to create an image of himself so as to relate to the average Comic Con attendee.
Now Ryan Seacrest? He was a fat kid:
That's not a fat kid. He's not skinny, but he's not fat. He's a little block of a kid. And yeah, that's how rugby players are often built.
The 'fat cavill' thing is in his head. As a gay kid he was self conscious about his body.
He was a fat kid. He lost the weight. Big deal, who cares. Lets talk about his hairline and his lack of charisma in MOS.
I don't understand the fat apologists on DL. He was fat. It is wonderful that he turned out as he did because fat is one of the worst states of being. It is something we should strive to eliminate. Absent medical conditions it is something that is inexcusable.
Fat apologists? Did you see the picture of Seacrest as a child? That's fat.
There's a difference between chubby and fat. Even Cavill's face was normal-sized. He had thick thighs, that's about it.
He was fat. People have gotten so used to fat around them that they think it's normal. No, he wasn't chubby and didn't have rugby body. I've seen many rugby players, and they are fit. He was just fat.
[quote]Lets talk about his hairline and his lack of charisma in MOS.
Lets talk about his hot, sensuous farts!
Give it up, R119. It's tired and revolting.
[quote]I've seen many rugby players, and they are fit. He was just fat.
But clearly not all. Depending on position, you will find that some are not quite fit - more fit-fat to fat.
This is such a silly argument. We know he wasn't "fat" by today's standards, but he also wasn't fat for those days. He was a little chubby.
R115: I never saw MoS, so I can't comment on his charisma, but what am I missing with his hairline?
I highly doubt that Cavill will land Bond. He's fused to Superman now, though I doubt he'll be as strongly linked to the character as Christopher Reeve. I can't think of too many actors that were fortunate or talented enough to score two iconic roles and helm two wildly successful franchises.
[quote]Sorry if I sound cranky. I just really hate that suit for him.
You're apologizing for not liking a guy's suit?
R130, he's Superman for this generation. He was essentially anointed by the nerds/geeks/whatever at Comic Con with the reception he was given. He's got the perfect look for it.
It is not better in that picture, r129. He looks like a barrel-chested pinhead. It's a perfectly fine suit for someone with a different body, but on him, it's hideous.
Well, no, r131, I was apologizing for any rudeness resulting from my utter hatred of all of the suits he wore at the various Man of Steel premieres.
If Cavill made an impression as Superman it was only in the US because in the rest of the world I'd be surprised if he had any more name recognition than Brandon Routh.
He's just the guy in the suit. If they re-released The Cold Light of Day it would probably do worse numbers than it did originally. Henry Cavill will never be a superstar. He's just an untalented douchebag.
[quote]It is not better in that picture, [R129]. He looks like a barrel-chested pinhead. It's a perfectly fine suit for someone with a different body, but on him, it's hideous.
Agreed that it isn't the best look for him. If he either chucked the vest OR the jacket AND made his tie knot smaller and tighter, that would be all he'd require to carry off that outfit.
[quote]Lets talk about his hairline
You be the judge:
Forgive me since I'm not an expert on this genre: If there's already a Superman, what would be the point of Batman?
The issue with Superman is that he's not a particularly complex character (unlike Batman) so anyone who plays him will be unfavorably compared to those who play more interesting or witty superheroes.
Christopher Reeve was remembered fondly for his Superman (even before he had his accident) largely because he was the first one to do the part in the recent past. If he had been the 2nd or 3rd actor to play the role, he'd be torn apart the way Routh and Cavill are now.
But I thought this new Superman movie makes the character more complex. No?
It's going to be a thankless job for the actor who plays Superman. The good-boy-bad-boy dynamic is inevitable, which means the Batman is going to get all the good lines. Plus the writers will feel an obligation to make the characters somewhat equal in ability, even though Batman is a normal human with an expensive hobby, and Superman is a godlike alien. Superman's style is going to get cramped.
One thing I liked about the 3rd Nolan/Batman movie was that the showed how hard playing Batman is on a man's body. But we're not going to see anything that realistic, if he's going to play buddy cop with Superman.
The point of Batman is that Superman is in Metropolis and Batman is in Gotham City. Superman can't be expected to stop crime in the entire world.
Christian Bale was the perfect Batman for the Nolan films, but he's not coming back. Who will be the next Batman? I mean I wonder if they're going to go with a name equal to Cavill's or a lesser/well- known? Billing will be interesting.
I get the impression that since this is Snyder's baby, it'll be Superman feat. Batman, so it'll be a lesser known actor than Cavill.
R118 = Ashley Hamilton
Bale did nothing. He was boring as fuck, and added nothing. Anyone could have done that part.
[quote]I highly doubt that Cavill will land Bond.
As long as he's Superman, the studios will never go for it. They will not go for one actor playing two iconic characters. Not gonna happen.
Haven't they already filmed a bunch of movies where they had a bunch of comic book superheros in it...the avengers?
Up for original thread.
The point of Barman that differentiates him from Superman is his mind. t isn't about being able to physically hang, it's that he is supposed to be this very cunning genius which the Nolan movies completely failed to capture. That is one things I hope they get right here
Luke Evans for Bats. I am going to keep repeating it, he would own the role and play well off of Cavill.
Rumor: [quote]Tyler Hoechlin Up For New Batman; Screen Test With Henry Cavill;
Fuck the screen test. Can you imagine these two beauties getting it on?
[quote]Luke Evans for Bats.
How about a fucking American?
They'll get Bale back wait and see. They'll draw out all the endless speculation first, to keep interest going in the film. WB will open up the checkbook trust.
MOS just didn't do quite well enough to lay the entire next film on Cavill and another unknown; no way will they bank on that with all the money they'll be investing on the next movie plus the JL film after.
WB has already cut some of the financial backing on "Man from UNCLE," so they don't believe Cavill and Hammer can bring in enough money.
They're obviously going to have to throw A LOT of money at Bale to get him back because he was pretty adamant that he was done.
what about Robin?
[quote]They're obviously going to have to throw A LOT of money at Bale to get him back because he was pretty adamant that he was done.
That or give him other things he might want, such as backing smaller high-quality projects he might want do. He's never been the greedy type, has often said he doesn't choose roles based on $.
They'll need someone of Bale's caliber to carry the movie because lord knows Cavill can't. Even his most fanatical fangurls have to admit he doesn't have enough going beyond his looks to carry the story itself.
The very idea is ridiculous considering the Batman trilogy just ended. WTF would they immediately go back to the well?
Why not Superman-Wonder Woman if they're not going to give WW her own movie? Or have Superman fight other villains? Have a Superman trilogy before you try Batman... again.