Saddest things closet cases did to remain closeted
Let's name them!
Raymond Burr - invented a bunch of fake ex-wives and fake kids for himself. He even received sympathy notes from fans for the death of his imaginary son!
Liberace - sued a paper for saying that he was gay (and he won!)
Randy Travis - marrying his old lady manager after a tabloid outed him
John Travolta - entered into a sham marriage after being outed. Sued Gawker for printing the truth about him
Ted Haggard became a preacher and built a mega-church while delivering anti-gay sermons.
Congressman Aaron Schock votes against equal rights and protection for gays so people in his district won't suspect that he's gay.
Lindsay Graham, ditto.
Plus unrequited love for John McCain.
J Edgar Hoover - persecuted and prosecuted gays in witch hunts.
George Rekers testified against gays in court cases attempting to overturn bans on adoption by gays. He's the guy who got caught taking a twink/rentboi to Europe to "carry his luggage."
"J Edgar Hoover - persecuted and prosecuted gays in witch hunts."
And his "friend" Clyde Tolson also helped him with the witch hunts!
Raymond Burr should get a pass. Liberace should get a side eye, but forgiveness.
There's being in "the closet" and then there is DENIAL. Being in denial means not even being able to admit to yourself that you have same-sex attractions. I think J. Edgar falls into the latter category. He was so fucked up by his mother.
Kevin Spacey's 1999 interview in Playboy, in which he discusses the Esquire cover story that implies he is gay. In the Playboy piece, Spacey claimed that "...there are a few women who think the article might be true. It’s a challenge for them: They want to be the ones to turn me around. I let them."
Better to just shut up, Kevin. You protest too much.
Kristen Stewart "came out" about a heterosexual relationship with her costar, got photographed fooling around with her married director, then made a bizarre public announcement that she loves her costar.
I wonder how much of a payout he got, R15. I don't think he married that bitch to stay in the closet. He married her for her money. When he got arrested for cruising at 3 a.m., she had to bail him out of jail. The marriage ended shortly after that. She probably paid him big bucks not to write a book telling the truth about their time together.
Hugh Jackman continues to give interviews in which he highly protests that he's gay . . . usually with his wife sitting next to him . . . a woman thirteen years his senior, who looks like Sophie Tucker.
Ron Liebman married Jessica Walter. 'nuff said.
Henry Cavill dated Kaley Cuoco by taking her to the grocery store.
What does that say about his marriage to Linda Lavin?
...perhaps she likes the ladies?
R22 is funny because it's true.
People may remember me from my anti-gay voting record as a senator and my, ahem, wide stance. I also, surprisingly, sounded quite a bit like a woman when people got to hear me deny my toilet tapping in the national media.
Let's not forget about the huge box office action star who climbed deep into that wardrobe closet, killed the magical lion and renamed his new hideaway AssLand.
He dressed up as a policeman and prowled the area shooting young heterosexual couples just to see how it felt! I, I mean, He was sick sick sick!
Moved to New Jersey
My friend is the only male hair stylist at a salon in Midtown and all the women there are constantly hitting on him, completely unaware that he's gay gay gay. For him it's the thrill of the fact they think he's straight and he's determined not to do anything to ruin that fantasy, even saying he may "switch" and start dating women just to keep them from ever finding out the truth.
It doesn't help matters that my friend is also very lonely, due to the fact he hasn't had a boyfriend in over two years, so he thinks dating women may be the only option he has left at this point (he's 42), plus with a mother (back in his native country) who has always pressured him to "find the right girl," get married and have a family, his resistance to the lure of a straight life is simply breaking down. And though I told him that "no matter what, you're a gay man and always will be," he's just not hearing me right now. But hey, whatever makes him happy I guess.
Got a job in an AIDS hospice.
"Saved" a woman pregnant by another man by marrying her.
And the all time worst: married a woman named Gay
[quote]Lindsay Graham, ditto.
[quote]Plus unrequited love for John McCain.
Miss Graham must see this when looking at decrepit McCain:
No one has mentioned that supposed closet case Bobby Deen got married last weekend. Tried to post a link but it was rejected.
Changed his last name from Gay to Gaye.
A right-wing religious nut killed Harvey Milk to stay closeted!
A major star who sued a tabloid, but there is gossip about the star here on DL that contradicts that. Will the truth ever be known?
R37, No you didn't Miss Tammi. He was all man!!!
Gale Harold = Walked away from the love of his life and former co-star Randy Harrison for a chance at stardom.
So many named Tammi...
Who is r28 talking about?
Barricade the closet door with his kids and a butch Pinkett fence.
R41, you are delusional
Jim McGreevey -
While in office, he said that as long as he was governor, he would not support legislation legalizing same sex marriage.
Some of us moved to France.
I liked the way Charles Nelson Reilly and Paul Lynde did it. They were closeted, but they weren't closeted at the same time.
We were flamingly closeted.
He really was a major jackass, R46.
Matt Drudge - used his site to shill for fundie/freeper homophobes
Ken Mehlman - used antigay rhetoric to help Republicans
Seriously, these two queens can fuck off and die!
Marry Liza and then get brutalized by flying pieces of Halston furniture during one of her drunken rampages.
Thank you r52, couldn't have said it better.
R17, LOL @ "Approximation of Simon Halls as a child." He really us fugly.
[quote] Liberace should get a side eye, but forgiveness.
Yeah, well Liberace got his in the end. Get it? In the end!
I don't get it. :-/
From today's NYP . . . so pathetic.
Hugh Jackman: I have sex dressed as Wolverine
Hugh Jackman has opened up on his marital relationship in the bedroom, saying he enjoys wearing the full Wolverine costume (blades and all) to bed.
Jackman made the admission during an interview with The Sun.
"The sheets we go through..." Jackman joked.
The Aussie actor's wife Deborra-Lee Furness said the costume had some uses outside the bedroom too, including the kitchen, where it’s ideal for making salads.
"Oh my God, it’s dreadful! Always with the claws. I’m like, ‘Mix the salad. Put them to use, come on!'"
The interview was part of Jackman's promotional tour of the UK to celebrate the release of the iconic character's latest outing The Wolverine.
He married Furness in 1996 before adopting two children with her years later.
Didn't she sell refrigerators in the 50s?
Is this a mommie complex?
Who in the wide, wide world of sports would ever want to know of much less think of Jackman und the missus in the bedchamber.
I quite like the idea that she gives him a good seeing to.
[quote]Ken Mehlman - used antigay rhetoric to help Republicans
He claims that when gays see him walking down the street they spit on him. I could never do that. No way would I stop with just spit.
Move to Lake Como.
Go on "The Bachelorette" as an eligible bachelor.
Move to the Vatican.
What about that blonde haired guy who was on the Bachelor and who was on Dancing With The Stars dancing just wearing his undershorts while Bruno went berserk?Isn't he spouse to be in the closet? I forgot his name.
Oh! The grammar trolls on DL fits in this thread to a tee.
R41 Looks like things might be changing a little...
That's cryptic, R65!
He knows he has a wonderful female fan base.
Jake Pavelka R64
R21: Ron Liebman? really? OMG, where has my gaydar been; I had a HUGE crush on him, 20+years ago. Are you sure?? Sightings? How could I have missed??!
R38: really? I am SO clueless; was living in SF then; horribly tragedy. White was a closet case? Wow; would explain a lot.
Christ, R57! "In the 'end'" - the back end? Ass? Got it in the ass? Got AIDS? HEllo?!??!
Keep up, darling.
Julaine Appling, unmarried fundie cunt from Wisconsin, lives with her fellow unmarried female friend in a house they co-own.
But she HATESES the gays and lesbians and was instrumental in WI being a state that passed a gay marriage ban.
^ I'm sure she just hasn't met the right guy!
R65 What did u mean exactly?
Randy Travis, OP? If that's true, my gaydar needs a major overhaul. I suppose every else already knows this? (In my defense, I'm not into country music/life.)
Saddest things out gays did that cause closet cases to remain closeted.
Richard Simmons absurdly claimed that he didn't think he'd ever get married (to a woman) because he was too busy with his career. This was on like ET in the early 90s. I think he really believed someone would take that seriously. He still storms off talk-shows to this day, if he thinks his homosexuality might be acknowledged. He personally deleted a post I wrote on YouTube, for a campy video he just put out a few weeks ago. All I asked is if he's finally out now. I think he's a delusional freak.
r77 LOL. I think he knows people know. He is just joking. Especially now.
R77 agree on the delusional freak
Considering the outrageous eye makeup he wore on camera, Raymond Burr was a closet case hiding in plain sight.
Neil Patrick Harris telling Jay Leno how kinky British girls are in 2005! (when he was already with Burtka)
Issued a papal rebuttal of his personal bum fuckery (the first in a thousand years), and banned artificial birth control for good measure, while blissfully sinning in his private apartments with actor Paolo Carlini - amongst others.
R74 stay tuned.
I am a devout Catholic and a news personality, so getting married at age 40 was something I had to do
I'm not gay, mate. Now, don't talk to me. I'm diving.
Christopher Lowell went on Jay Leno in 2001 and early in the interview claimed he was straight and married and that his persona was an "act."
Here's an interview with the Chicago Tribune where he says the same thing (except without the wife part):
[quote]When he first approached the Discovery Channel with the idea for his show, he told them that comedy and a flamboyant decorator persona were necessary to set him apart from the rest of the decorating shows. They agreed, but as time passed, he says the network wanted him to bring it closer to the mainstream. "We started out very over the top, because we knew we needed to get the Saturday Night Lives of the world spoofing us," he says. (They did in May 2000.)
The heterosexual Mr. Lowell:
Got George W. Bush elected twice.
Didn't stand on stage with mom and dad and the rest of my family at the Republican National Convention.
I wonder what it must have felt like for Mary Cheney watching her family hug and cheer as she stood on the sidelines, not included. Her family ignoring her and agreeing with her that she should stay off stage. Must have been a really empty feeling.
[quote]Raymond Burr - invented a bunch of fake ex-wives and fake kids for himself. He even received sympathy notes from fans for the death of his imaginary son!
He invented two wives who died as well as the son who died. The first wife, a made-up British actress named Annette Sutherland, supposedly perished with Leslie Howard on BOAC Flight 777, shot down by the Nazis during WWII; however, there was no one by that name on the passenger list. The third wife, the fictional Laura Morgan, was the mother of his fictional son, Michael; both supposedly died of cancer. He was married to starlet Bella Ward, his only documented wife, for three whole months in the late '40s.
He also claimed to have been madly in love with Natalie Wood.
[quote]When he first approached the Discovery Channel with the idea for his show, he told them that comedy and a flamboyant decorator persona were necessary to set him apart from the rest of the decorating shows.
I remember the "flamboyant decorator 'persona'", but where was the "comedy"?
I think we forgot Miss Elton's marriage to Kiki Dee. I think he did too.
He didn't marry Kiki Dee. He married some Dutch (I think?) woman.
Elton John married a German woman named Renata.
Luke Evans going back in the closet after he was out and proud.
Saw a therapist who witch-doctored him into believing he could fix himself and be with women- blaming it all on his Mother.
Allowed Victoria Principal to take credit for "curing" him.
Got married, had kids, but still deeply loathed his homosexuality. Got high to live in denial, got sloppy, got AIDS.
I think he truly loved his wife and kids but I don't think he ever truly loved or forgave himself for being gay.
[quote] Randy Travis, OP? If that's true, my gaydar needs a major overhaul.
And so it does.
That being said, there was a thread on here asking for gay-anecdotes or gossip specifically about him and no one had anything. He might fall in the 'denial' category.
That or he's a pedo and no one is talking.
R77: Several years ago, Richard Simmons appeared on Live with Regis/Kathie Lee and emerged from Kathie Lee's clothes closet. He repeated LOUDLY and ad nauseam he was coming out of the closet. I think that was his way of telling us something.
As for Hugh Jackman, how much longer can he keep up the act before someone really blows his cover (Palermo/rent boys etc.)? He is officially in Cruise/Travolta territory now.
I find what Raymond Burr did to be fucking hilarious. The husband that wasn't there.
Thanks for the correction re Elton's marriage, R91 and R92. Here's an article about it in the off chance anyone still gives half a shit. And oh yeah, remember how he first came out as bi, then gay, but is that still considered more of a rite of passage for some guys than "sad"?
Hasn't Kerry Rhodes claimed to be the real father of Kim Kardashian's baby?
r88, not only that, but Natalie was genuinely madly in love with him, too. She was very impressionable teenager at the time and was dating Burr as a form of rebellion against her mother.
r98, yes he did.
R83 Are you talking about Gale and Danielle getting hitched?
I'm the faggot called Boise O'Grady
Squandering his youth,beauty and sexual peak just so he can remain a virgin until "the right girl comes along".
They can't ALL be dissolute whores Tim!
Do they all have to be famous?
What about a closeted gay guy who stood by and watched a gay man get jumped and beaten by a group of men, and did nothing to help the man because people would think he was gay.
In my opinion, this is the lowest form of humanity I can imagine.
R104, a lot of openly gay men would have done the same. Gay men are wimps
For R104 and R105
There used to be a very small restaurant in the West Village called The First Bite. The chef was gaybashed right outside the restaurant at about 10:30 PM. The hostess, who was about 98 pounds and 5', the waitress, good Irish peasant stock, and me, never lifted anything heavier than a knitting needle, were the ones who rushed to his defense. The muscular Chealsea boys all cringed in the corner and whimpered.
"a lot of openly gay men would have done the same. Gay men are wimps"
You sound very stupid and homophobic. Take your trolling elsewhere, please.
R105, absolutely not. I have been defended by a gay man who got the face of another guy who was harassing me.
I also no longer talk to the guy at R104 I described. I have respectfully disappeared from his life.
Isn't Gale Harold coming out yet????
There's no reason NPH wouldn't have known all about it, r81 - that bisexual has happily banged more women than most straight guys.
Gale will never come out!
The problem with Tim Tebow is that he's afraid of his fundy mother. His father was a preacher, but so was Jessica Simpson's father.
Pretended to date Sandra Bullock...and continued to milk that "relationship" 20 years later!
Troy Aikman, heterosexual quarterback
How come there's no discussion about Rock Hudson on here?
Become involved with a woman old enough to be your mother, and if she's terminal you can become very melodramatic and then after she has died, you'll endear yourself to your public by claiming that you'll never love again the way that you did with Diana.
Introducing Idina Menzel as Adele Dazeem!
Now nobody will believe John Travolta is gay!
'dating' Cameron Diaz and then dedicate his Spirit Award to ''all the womwen he has slept with''.
Marrying an obvious lez then immediately taking off on a years-long world tour without her
Did a radio interview interview saying I really, really like women!
Gave my boyfriend the boot
Aaron Rodgers, heterosexual quarterback
Can't believe no one has mentioned Justin Bieber and the "sex pictures" of him and an equally gay looking young guy rather tentatively licking the nipples of some woman with a rather obvious boob job. I'm a woman, and my female friend sent them to me. We both had a laugh and figured no one has ever gone to such lengths to in himself as this kid. We both agreed neither guy looked like they had any experience with the real thing, or, as my friend put it, "they didn't look like they'd touched a nipple since they were last breastfeed." We also agreed that Justin and his friend probably fucked when it was over to get over that whole nasty girl cooties feel.
Then there's Tom Cruise and that ridiculous couch jumping on Oprah, which actually had the unintended side effect of actually calling to question his sexuality among a lot of regular Joes and Janes who never thought about it before, even with the rumors that ran on some internet boards. His career hasn't been the same since.
Rock Hudson had an entire fake marriage,arranged by the studios, to some woman whose name I can't even remember (nor is it even important).
^ Phyllis Gates
^ Thanks! Wonder whatever happened to ole Phyllis?
r126, Phyllis died a few years back. The gossip is that she was as gay as her husband. Some guy mentioned her in a divorce suit - he said Phyllis was having an affair with his wife!
Had my boyfriend airbrushed out of a Fourth of July party, and had him removed from another series of photos walking with our BFF on the beach, so it could look like the girl and I were on a genuine date. Unfortunately my minders forgot to airbrush out my boyfriend's shoe in a few of the photos from that set.
^ So long as the shoes weren't a pair of Mary Janes, you should be OK in getting away with it.
Who is r128?!
Mystery shoes, "different day" photo shoots released by P.R.
if you want to get A-list in Hollywood: push your long term companion into the shadows while you overcompensate over your hyper-hetereo broman schtick by bearding and breeding with a vulgar bachelor party entertainer/glamour model more than half your age. And make sure you remind everyone that you started career as a makeup artist because it was a great way to pick up chicks.
Mr. Cee Hot 97 DJ admits to oral sex with gay prostitutes. Still professes he is not gay, because he has never penetrated another man.
"Absolutely not," he told GQ when asked point-blank if he's gay.
"And it's nothing — it's no offense to transgender women, but I only get with transgender women for one thing and one thing only, and that's for oral sex," he said. "Like I said: I never had sex with a man. I never had sex with a transgender woman."
The beloved 47-year-old deejay, whose real name is Calvin Lebrun, said he's remained single since a video of him soliciting sex from a man in drag surfaced online last September following multiple arrests for solicitation and public lewdness.
Frankly they should have not been put in the position to fight. Everyone has the right to come out at their own time, when it is right for themselves. People should mind their own business and worry about what's happening in their own bedroom and not others. We will have true equality when sexuality is no issue and people can be out and proud or private if they prefer.
"We will have true equality when sexuality is no issue and people can be out and proud or private if they prefer"
Sad that some people still can't tell the difference between being private and being a liar
I've heard about closet cases committing suicide to prevent discovery.
r126, Darwin Porter has a complete account of the real Phyllis Gates in "Hollywood Babylon; It's Back!"
Get engaged to a woman after less than a year of "dating", while having PEOPLE document your every move with her despite being notoriously private about your previous "romantic" relationships with females.
[quote]Get engaged to a woman after less than a year of "dating", while having PEOPLE document your every move with her despite being notoriously private about your previous "romantic" relationships with females.
Well, you're being glib and know nothing about love!
It's pretty sad that my post applies equally to Tom Cruise in 2005 and George Clooney's current situation. I doubt Clooney would appreciate the comparison, especially when he doesn't even have the excuse of belonging to a brainwashing, anti-gay cult.
All of these examples should show you something - these people believe they have a lot to lose if they come out of the closet. And they are right.
I believe the vast majority of "outs" who are so critical of those who are not are people for whom the great announcement was no surprise to anyone.
R150 No, it's just that not every gay man is a self-loathing closet case. John Travolta is gayer than gay, but he's not out so how does that fit into your asinine assumption?
Every gay man is taking a risk when he comes out, being able to take that risk is deserving of respect. Closet cases don't deserve anyone's respect.
R151 I really shouldn't bother to answer your post, but I will this once.
Travolta is a poor example for your case. Had he come out, he would never been able to get all those great movie roles. And he may be gay, but he has not announced it and the general public can easily believe he isn't. They are happier that way.
The only person I can think of who recently took a risk by coming out is Luke Macfarlane. Unsuspected at all, on cusp of a big career, etc. Virtually everyone else on the list is either an athlete, or an entertainer who didn't surprise anyone.
True: "No, it's just that not every gay man is a self-loathing closet case". But I suspect you believe that every closet case is a self-loathing gay man.
Troy Aikman seems to be the saddest.
Recruit a pretend 'girlfriend' - Louis Tomlinson
Recruit several 'girlfriends' in quick succession - Harry Styles
Posing for sad-looking "romantic" pictures with a beard and pretending they aren't staged
They went on the Match Game or Hollywood Squares.
Didn't read all previous posts, but how about Rock Hudson's very arranged marriage to the equally lesbionic Phyllis Gates?
"I believe the vast majority of "outs" who are so critical of those who are not are people for whom the great announcement was no surprise to anyone."
Just keep telling yourself that, George Rekers.
"We will have true equality when sexuality is no issue and people can be out and proud or private if they prefer."
We will have true equality when homosexuality is not treated like a dirty secret.
[quote]Saddest things closet cases did to remain closeted
Remain closeted just to upset the self-loathing out ones.
Have every article/photo about you remind us how you are single, but have a baby with an ex girlfriend.
Mention the wedding date over and over. We get it Mr. Clooney, you really are going through with this!
r160 = trying to justify being in the closet
To me it was really sad when Spacey tried to beard during his Oscar acceptance speech...that was really embarrassing.
Fuck Clooney...what the hell is his problem? He's like 52. I swear, it's crazy.
r163, are you referencing the "I love you, Dianne!" moment?
I really think someone from the press should ask George Clooney to just come out because at this point, no one is respecting him and if he really wants to get involved in politics...he better take a good look at Charlie Crist.
[quote]To me it was really sad when Spacey tried to beard during his Oscar acceptance speech...
It was pathetic and really made him look stupid. After all, was there anyone in showbiz at that time who didn't know he's gay? At the post-Oscar parties, it gave everyone something to laugh and joke about. He really made a fool of himself.
The best closet case is Keanu Reeves. He never does the girlfriend thing. He'll pose with some of his many female friends but he never treats them as girlfriends. I saw him beard one time...for the romantic film he did with Bullock but I'm sure the only reason he did it was to please Sandra.
The woman who said she was having his baby? Dead.
"Oh my God. I'm back. I'm home. All the time, it was... We finally really did it ... You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
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