KTVU Reports Asiana Air Pilots Were “Sum Ting Wong” and “Ho Lee Fuk”
KTVU Reports Asiana Air Pilots Were “Sum Ting Wong” and “Ho Lee Fuk”
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Bay Area news station KTVU just reported that the pilots of Asiana's disastrous flight 214 were the crack team of "Sum Ting Wong," "Wi Tu Lo," "Ho Lee Fuk," and "Bang Ding Ow."
Despite the names obviously being just a bunch of racist jokes, KTVU, which has since apologized for the report, claims in a statement given to Gawker—and read on the air—that an NTSB official confirmed the names to them earlier today.
EARLIER IN THE NEWSCAST WE GAVE SOME NAMES OF PILOTS INVOLVED IN THE ASIANA AIRLINES CRASH. THESE NAMES WERE NOT ACCURATE DESPITE AN N-T-S-B OFFICIAL IN WASHINGTON CONFIRMING THEM LATE THIS MORNING. WE APOLOGIZE FOR THIS ERROR.
Racism is awful and this is so inappropriate...
...but I have to admit, kinda funny.
The video at the link is hilarious. I can't believe the anchor could read those names out loud on the air and not realize they were being pranked.
R2, I don't think most of the blockheads who read the news even listen to what they're reading.
This is a much bigger coup than the airport paging system.
That is hilarious! How could someone not catch the joke before it went on the air?
In our defense, we didn't see it coming.
My last name should always be pronounce with a short vowel sound.
The tail was named Won Hung Lo
Yeah, try spending your whole career working with hordes of Chinese people (because Americans suck at math and science), and who we know white gay men don't find attractive, including me. Then you can laugh at jokes like this because you're just damn sick and tired of being surrounded by Chinese people - who, even though they're 10,000 miles from home, are surrounded by people who look, act and talk just like themselves. Ugh.
During the Viet Nam war, San Francisco Chronicle columnist Art Hoppe regularly wrote humorous anti-war pieces about enemy characters such as Hao Bout Dem (a buxom dragon lady). The few Vietnamese immigrants in California at that time had fled the communists, so no one was offended when Hoppe made fun of them.
The San Francisco bay area has been rife with jokes about Asian names since long before the Gold Rush of 1849. They're not uttered in public much anymore, but people do tell them to each other -- you'd think that someone at KTVU would have noticed how at least one of these names sounds when spoken. And what's with the NTSB confirming the names?
[quote]And what's with the NTSB confirming the names?
They didn't. Gawker says that the NTSB told them that they don't release the aircrew names. Somebody claimed that they were from that agency, but they lied.
Not appropriate. It's stereotyping.
Someone will lose a job over this. Who was supposed to check copy?
Do Asians make fun of Western names?
Something can be funny and racist at the same time. What probably upsets Koreans most is those fake names sound more Chinese than Korean.
Bwahhahahaha! That was fuckin hilarious. She sounded so professional and serious.
That poor reporter's one saving grace was her discreet pronunciation of "Ho Lee Fuk" as Ho-lee-fook. Good catch, on her part. I probably would have said fuck.
"Ho Lee Fuk" is even trending on Twitter
R10 has some issues he needs to work out.
Newsflash! It was a FOX NEWS AFFILIATE! This story is no different from anything else approved by their fact checkers :P
r10 (me) would prefer to work with the typical Datalounger - white, middle-aged gay man who can speak and write English clearly and concisely. Unfortunately, the typical poster here simply does not like the kind of work I do, or does not have the aptitude for it. Instead, I have to work with people I have absolutely nothing in common with, and have zero physical attraction to - and again, it has been made abundantly clear on this site that practically none of you are attracted to Asians either, so I'm not alone in that.
Also, why can't big, beefy, masculine, muscular sexy Russian, Greek and Italian dudes be good at math and science? Fuck, it's not fair.
Is R13 for real? "Not appropriate?" I'm stereotyping you, Missy Phat Gunt Sou.
lol. that's hilarious and i'm asian hahah
Girl, she should be just as embarrassed about the blush. What did she use, dry erase markers?
One of the best trolls ever!
I don't see what's the big deal. The joking names don't affect my opinion that drivers of oriental heritage are horrible drivers. Hell, insurance companies feel the same way. I don't know how many Chinese or Korean nationals are visiting in the US at any one time, but I doubt they are dedicated viewers of KTVU while on holiday.
I don't think Americans with some Chinese heritage will do anything but laugh with everyone else.
It simply isn't racist, it's a play on syllables that might be taken for an asian national's name.
Holy cow, that's hilarious! But what the fuck is with the reader - she couldn't look at that list and say "I'm not reading this nonsense?"
That newscaster must have the IQ of celery
they sound like manicurists.
"Oriental" R26? Really? And that's putting aside the rest of your idiotic post.
I'm surprised that other people in the TV studio didn't start laughing as the anchor was reading the names. Didn't anyone at the station realize those names were a joke?
It sounds like an intern at the NTSB was part of the prank.
From the LA Times:
Late Friday, the NTSB acknowledged that a summer intern confirmed the names to KTVU when a reporter from the station called about them.
"Earlier today, in response to an inquiry from a media outlet, a summer intern acted outside the scope of his authority when he erroneously confirmed the names of the flight crew on the aircraft," the NTSB said in a statement.
"The NTSB does not release or confirm the names of crew members or people involved in transportation accidents to the media. We work hard to ensure that only appropriate factual information regarding an investigation is released and deeply regret today's incident. Appropriate actions will be taken to ensure that such a serious error is not repeated," the statement added.
Summerville said the station didn't properly verify who at the NTSB was confirming the names.
[quote]and again, it has been made abundantly clear on this site that practically none of you are attracted to Asians either
That's an IDEOLOGICAL position adopted by the racially obessed loons here. They worship black people and resent asians. It isn't hard to guess why.
Yep, that's a perfect example of what PC is r51. If you hear those types gushing on about how terrible "racism" is, just stay with them for a while. It won't be long till the same people will start making negative comments about Asians. PC is all about a seething hate toward some groups and a fawning adoration of others.
I think this Gawker comment says it best:
I'm so torn here. Do not like racism. Do not like racist jokes. Do like mocking tragedy.
But I like this.
Fucking cognitive dissonance.\t
It's hilarious that some troll got this through to broadcast by a yet another vacuous teleprompter reader. Asian-name jokes have been done a million times though and are pretty lame.
The oh-so-serious woman reading, who no doubt considers herself a "professional" news anchor and broadcaster, will be remembered for this among her colleagues for years. She will not endure ribbing about it well and will call it an "affront to her dignity" while others snicker behind her back for being so stupid.
What gets broadcast as "news" in the US is a perfect reflection of corporate values.
That's bullshit, r52, and an excuse for your own terrible behavior. I don't tolerate racism about any group including Asians. And most intelligent people I know don't tolerate it either.
Last night's episode of "What Would You Do?" On ABC showed a stand up comic making racist comments about an Asian woman and two audiences stopped the comic in protest. It was fantastic.
You may be racist but not everyone around you is.
My issue is not with the racism, per se. It is with the selective approval of racism. It's ok to be racist against Asians, but never African Americans. If the flight had originated in Africa and the jokes had been skewed that direction, the outrage wold have been huge, rather than, "whoops, sorry. But you can understand how his could happen since they all have such funny names anyway."
Don't forget the person who typed up the visual.
I agree with you, R54. Any prank that exposes a TV "journalist" for the vacuous teleprompter-reading corporate-owned bozo they all are is OK with me.
r56 is right about the double standards. r55, that was what was being objected to in r52.
And of course note that r55 had to project and spew bullshit like "your own terrible behavior" and "you may be racist..." But really, that's all they ever have; creating fantasy enemies and putting words and ideas in the mouths of others so they can have something to trash.
R10 is all kinds of racist. Whites certainly can do your job. Chinese are not a gang.
[quote]I'm so torn here. Do not like racism. Do not like racist jokes. Do like mocking tragedy.
ANOTHER perfect example of a PC twat. Laughing in the face of other's pain = just fucking fine. "offending" a person not in pain by a racial comment = just horrible. There's no logic to it and certainly no caring. It's like blind fundamentalism.
If KTVU called the NTSB to confirm the names, they were doing their job. If you can't trust the official federal department, then what other official sources can you reach out to?
KTVU might be a Fox affiliate, but it is a fine local news station. Local stations don't play partisan.
I hope that intern will be blackballed. You get a golden opportunity to intern at the NTSB to further advance your future goal and return the favor by being a complete racist jackass.
Millennials are a bunch of jackasses.
r58 why blame the anchor? The station did their job and confirmed it with the NTSB. It's the federal agency in charge of the investigation. How else would you like them to confirm the names? It's not like Asiana Airline is talking to the press. The fault lies solely with the jackass intern and no one else.
Not solely no. The people who came up with the list in the first place are to blame.
It's called common sense, R63. Read the names out loud and the joke announces itself to you instantly. Unless you are one of the Ted Baxters whose job is to pretend to keep America "informed" while the Pentagon and Wall Street rob us blind.
r64 The list was obviously created by the intern, unless the NTSB knew about it. I doubt it because while most federal agencies has been subjected to criticism, the NTSB has been pretty stellar.
If you want to fault the NTSB for hiring another Snowden-like jackass, then that would fair.
[quote]why blame the anchor?
Because anyone with a brain can see those are fake names? Because you don't just repeat whatever nonsense you're handed as fact?
[quote]Read the names out loud and the joke announces itself to you instantly.
Not necessarily. As with the prank call in the link, many people don't get it.
r65 it's the NTSB. This is after a major crash. What kind of agency in the midst of all this chaos has the time to pull a Bart Simpson? A rational person would say that the NTSB is too busy with the investigation to pull racist jokes on the press.
Sorry that you no longer have any trust for the federal gov't. But if I was a news organization and I need to confirm names, I would call the NTSB.
It was hilarious. I nearly peed myself. It's as if a newscaster solemnly announced after the Challenger disaster, "It has just been confirmed that NASA Needs Another Seven Astronauts."
I didn't get either r68. I've known many Chinese where I grew up and live and some of the names can make a westerner giggle.
They said at the tv station that "the NTSB has confirmed the names." That means someone called the NTSB and asked if those were the names. It doesn't mean the NTSB intern made up the names.
So who made up the names?
People like R62/63/66 are why horrors like the Tuskegee syphilis experiment get conducted.
"Well, the government says it's ok..."
"Donald Rumsfeld says waterboarding isn't torture and he works for the government. OK!"
[quote]why blame the anchor?
It repeats what the government tells it to repeat or else it gets the hose again.
r73 you're a complete moron. Apples and oranges. Why don't you compare this to the Holocaust, too.
Don't worry R62 - you'll grow up some day.
Most of us got scolded with "If your friend told you to jump off a bridge, would you do that too?" in elementary school and got the point early in life.
You'll figure out someday that "someone told you" isn't an adequate substitute for using your own head.
The anchor should be fired.
I'll bet the intern who did this is some rich kid who did it for laughs and will now get a writing gig on SNL or some other lame show that's a bastion of privilege.
It's almost impossible to believe: Someone gave the list of names and their spellings to the TV station. Then the station called the NTSB to get the names confirmed. Then the names were loaded into the station's graphics system. And they were written into the anchor's script and loaded onto the Teleprompter. And then the anchor read them out loud on the air. And AT NO POINT in this long process did anyone realize that the names were a joke.
[quote] I heard that Ho Lee Fuk is an insatiable bottom.
And Bang Ding Ow is a nasty top who is absolutely brutal in bed.
[quote]The anchor should be fired.
She's a good anchor who has been there for years and has rarely made mistakes. This is not her fault and I hope they don't blame her. Who's reviewing what's fed into the teleprompter, they need to be fired.
R78 is right. What kind of news anchor goes on the air without looking over the news first? How could anyone miss those joke names?
There is no double standard here. This story is getting national attention. The NTSB is having to explain itself. The station was smart enough to apologize immediately for the error.
So when all sides immediately apologize and take blame, the story doesn't blow up. That's different than someone saying racist things, not apologizing or reprimanding those that did it and then expecting their business will no be impacted.
Trying to equate the two things is stupid and silly.
The names originated at KTVU. The station submitted them to the NTSB for confirmation. A summer intern confirmed them, then Tori Campbell read them on air.
The summer intern did not make up the names.
I have to admit that, initially, I didn't really sound out the names. I just thought that they were more Chinese then Korean but whatev. About the third time I saw the thread, I realized just what they were and had to laugh a little bit...
Ron Burgundy (Stay classy, Oakland!)
"Local stations don't play partisan."
What dreamland do you live in?
This is something like Ted would have read on the Mary Tyler Moore Show.
Seriously, R55? You're going to quote that staged piece of pussy shit "What Would You Do?" as an example of... anything? I am deeply embarrassed on your behalf.
By the way, if you are a shill and/or work for that show, could you please tell them to stop portraying gays as shy little lambs who need heteros to step in and defend them when they are abused? Pure victim class bullshit and I don't know a gay or lesbian who wouldn't fight back -- not whimper in humiliation like the bad actors playing us do.
The pussyfication of America continues. "Everyone play nice!" So over you PC cunts in your make believe victim world.
Not torn here. Every time I read this thread, I still chuckle. Sorry if I'm not being PC, actually I'm not! Fuck PC
Actually, people are standing up and not taking the kind of bullshit you seem to cling to like a fat pig in stewing in its own shit.
The fact that you're complaining about how the world is changing to be more aware and more tolerant of all people is proof that our side is winning. No matter how much you pretend "PC" is a bad word with weakening powers, it isn't. This news station realized right away that this stunt was inappropriate and they apologized for it. As they should, asshole.
r43, Is a PC loon
r90, a zipperhead
[quote]The list was obviously created by the intern, unless the NTSB knew about it.
R66, you're an idiot.
"In seeking to verify the names, an unidentified KTVU reporter called the government safety agency's public affairs office for confirmation, though did not read the names out loud, KTVU said. The station didn't clarify how the names were conveyed to the NTSB representative, who turned out to be a summer intern."
KTVU submitted the names to the NTSB and took the word of a summer intern as verification.
Journalism pro tip: You might want to ask for the job title of the person who's confirming your racist Asian names list.
[quote]I'll bet the intern who did this is some rich kid who did it for laughs and will now get a writing gig on SNL or some other lame show that's a bastion of privilege.
Let's hope so.
[quote]KTVU submitted the names to the NTSB and took the word of a summer intern as verification.
This doesn't make sense. Reading the names over the phone, one of the two would realize it was a joke unless it was two of the biggest idiots on Earth. Writing the names for an e-mail communication should have pointed the writer and the reader to a joke.
We haven't gotten the real story, yet.
[quote]Reading the names over the phone, one of the two would realize it was a joke unless it was two of the biggest idiots on Earth.
Maybe the KTVU person just spelled them over the phone.
Hoo Flung Pu all over this thread?
It seems unlikely that no one at KTVU ever said the names out loud before the anchor announced them. When you're given a list of (supposedly) foreign names, one of the first things you do is try to pronounce them, especially if you're in the TV news business, and you know the names will have to be read on the air. I can't believe that KTVU got the names, called to confirm them, wrote them into the teleprompter, and put them on a graphics slide without anyone ever stopping to read them or ask how they're pronounced. It makes no sense.
[quote]Maybe the KTVU person just spelled them over the phone.
IF that were the case, the KTVU person would have had them written out in front of him/her. It just doesn't make sense that the person wouldn't get it unless they were very, very dim. - close to retarded.
Somebody took the time to write that story with those names and that person still is being kept hidden from public view.
Was it e-mailed to KTVU or was it written at KTVU? I think they're worried about some kind of sanctions headed their way for allowing this to air.
Intern #1 at KTVU: Dude! I got a list of the names of the pilots. Here it is.
Intern #2 at KTVU: OMFG! That's hilarious. Dude -- e the NTSB. I swear -- do it! I dare you e NTSB for confirmation of names. Dude, I will give you a hundred bucks ritenow .
KTVU 1: Im doing it,
KTVU 2: You won't! I know you won't!
KTVU 1: Sends email to NTSB. KTVU and we'd like confirmation of the names of the pilots. The names are Sum Ting Wong, Wi Tu Lo, Ho Li Fuk and Bang Ding Ow.
NTSB: intern: oMG Dude! Yes!
I can't imagine that they'll just let this go without finding who came up with the plan.
Damn. I laughed until I cried when I saw this online earlier today. People are so sensitive.
I laughed so hard, I almost burst into flames.
It has very to do with race. What makes it funny is the way the person was able to get this through onto the air, how they did it, and how stupid the anchors are. People do this a lot, you know I P Freely, shit.
[quote]Millennials are a bunch of jackasses.
GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
[quote]Last night's episode of "What Would You Do?" On ABC showed a stand up comic making racist comments about an Asian woman and two audiences stopped the comic in protest. It was fantastic.
Anonymous was so totally behind this.
KTVU is a FOX affiliate and they air their programming but, the newscast is very respected here in the Bay Area and not a right wing station by any means and the anchor Tori Campbell has been there for nearly 20 years.
First and foremost -- NTSB and airlines NEVER release pilot names until after investigations are concluded, which takes months. How do people at the station not know this? Is there anyone there with any brains and experience?
Could you imagine Walter Cronkite reading that list on the air?
I can't wait to see KTVU reveal the names of the Zimmerman trial jurors.
Asiana reported that the actual name of one of the pilots is Lee Kang-Kuk. Well, at least he can cook and has something to fall back on.
Yeah, because people watching KTVU-TV out of Oakland were just gripping the edges of their divans, waiting to learn the names of the pilots of that ill-fated Asiana flight, and then they were LIED TO!
So, what WERE their names? We are STILL WAITING!!
Such vitally important information cannot be withheld from us! We demand to know the facts! Every last, least insignificant one of them, or else we will SUE your lame asses into OBLIVION!
I'm surprised nobody sued the station over this incident.
Frankly, I would've thought Bay Area lawyer Mi Su Yu would jump right on this case!
Producer at KTVU: Luk Fo Wok
"Who's responsible for this racist embarassment?"
"Probably some young guy."
"YOU'RE FIRED, TOO!"