I'm almost finished all three James Bond films but not quite so no spoilers please.
Anyway, all the way through, I thought Daniel Craig was miscast. I mean I heard Henry Cavill wanted the role but didn't get it because of his age. And I thought that if Henry taken his place, he'd be much more pleasing to look at. I didn't like Craig's acting and I think Cavill would have done a better job. Thoughts?
[quote]I'm almost finished all three James Bond films but not quite so no spoilers please.
Well, here's a spoiler anyway: there are many more James Bond movies than just three.
"all three James Bond films"
You are young and naive.
I haven't seen one since 1972. But I've listened to that Carly Simon song and the one by Paul McCartney.
Clive Owen would have been the perfect Bond so naturally they had to prove themselves "independent" by choosing against type.
The result has been mediocre at best.
I did not like Heath Ledger in his role as "Joker".
JUDI DENCH DIES. (Sorry, but your idiocy of claiming there are only "three" Bond films merited a spoiler...)
[quote]What are your reactions to James Bond films?
On the whole they leave me shaken, not stirred.
Clive Owen would have been excellent, but Ardian Paul coming off the Highlander series (the TV show, not the horrible movies) would have worked too.
Sorry, Daniel Craig is an excellent actor, but hes completely wrong for Bond. Put him in a tuxedo and he looks like a plumber at a wedding. Still better than Roger Moore, I'll give him that.
Bond is not supposed to be "pleasing to look at," you daft cunt. He's supposed to be believable as a cold-hearted secret agent who doesn't think twice about murder, even when not necessary. Daniel Craig is most certainly suited to the role, plus he's a considerably better actor than Cavill.
The only other actor who could've pulled off the new Bond is Clive Owen.
I've had a problem with the Bond movies since I learned that Cubby Broccoli and Wallace Beery beat Ted Healy to death in a brawl outside the Trocadero nightclub, and it was covered up by MGM.
[quote]Bond is not supposed to be "pleasing to look at," you daft cunt.
Yes he is. You know nothing about the topic, obviously.
This is the illustration Ian Fleming himself drew of James Bond. He was modeled in part according to Fleming on the young Prince Philip, who was considered very handsome. Fleming makes it quite clear in the novels that Bond is attractive and dashing.
[quote]Fleming makes it quite clear in the novels that Bond is attractive and dashing.
a) Craig *is* attractive.
b) The *filmmakers* made it quite clear that the Craig films are supposed to represent "early-stage" Bond, before he perfected his savoir-faire with the ladies. That's half the point of "Casino Royale," that he doesn't yet know how to wear a tuxedo or order a proper drink.
Fleming said that Roger Moore was the Bond he liked best and that Moore came closest to what he imagined for the character.
Personally, I like Daniel Craig's Bond. Clive Owen would have made a good choice, Henry Cavill would have been a disaster.
I take it that the Heath Ledger Troll has transferred his warped and unwanted affections to Cavill now? Poor Henry, poor us.
Clive Owen is too tragic; his wryness connects with depression. Craig is okay except he, too, is too serious and his apelike inexpressiveness prevents him from doing anything except grimace.
Moore's personality is perfect, except the man as an actor has no gravitas. Connery had gravitas and humor and detachment, but he lacked hair. Or a convincing rug.
Brosnan lacked seriousness, he has a lousy voice (mush-mouth) and he's innately pissy. Lazenby was a clod.
Cavill? No intelligence.
In short, no actor is right for the role. I would go for Cate Blanchett at this point.
Gwyneth could do it.
I like the third James Bond film best, Goldfinger. How about you, OP?
R14, I highly doubt Fleming said Moore was his favorite Bond since Fleming died in 1964 and Moore didn't play Bond until 1973.
However, Moore did play Simon Templar in The Saint starting in 1962, so maybe fleming said Moore would be a good Bond, and how he imagined the character.
In any case, the novels state more than once that Bond resembled singer-songwriter Hoagy Carmichael more than anyone else.
I think Craig is the best Bond so far, though Connery is a close second.
I will concede that Quantum of Solace was crap.
And Roger Moore was a horrible, campy in a bad way Bond.
"Bond is not supposed to be "pleasing to look at," you daft cunt. He's supposed to be believable as a cold-hearted secret agent who doesn't think twice about murder, even when not necessary."
That's the thing. Bond is a liar, manipulator, and hired killer, the only thing that separates him from his enemies is a veneer of civilization. That's why his good manners and upper-class polish are so important, they're what make him a gentleman rather than a career killer.
You do lose a bit of that with Craig's intrinsic roughness, but he makes up for it with sheer testosterone. The man is SEX-AY!!!
Erm, OP? Daniel Craig seems to have done quite well as James Bond, breaking all previous box office records in the franchise with Skyfall.
I guess you'll just have to get over it.
Was Die Another Day the first James Bond film edited using iMovie?
Stupid crap aimed at straight pre-teen boys?
Sean Connery is the only one that counts.
Craig is an excellent Bond, second to Connery and just ahead of Timothy Dalton. Bond is meant to be fucking scary. He's a government-licensed psychopath.
Moore was terrible, Lazenby not much better, Brosnan is a good actor but too smooth to be convincingly cold and deadly. Bond is meant to be someone who will kill you without a second thought. He is incredibly useful as an agent because he's a psychologically damaged orphan without a single person in the world to care about.
I loved Judi Dench as M. She was as detached and scary as Bond, absolutely single minded about the job. I will loathe it if they go back to soft-edged characters. That is not how it was written.
I heard somewhere that Jack Lord had demanded co-star billing with his name above the titles for his 10 minutes onscreen as Felix. Twat.
Don't like the physical look of Daniel Craig but he's easy going in this video on SNL.
I liked Moore as Bond. I don't think great acting chops are required to play Bond, it's not exactly Shakespeare.
I only know the pre-80s ones I watched as a kid. The movies don't mean anything to me now. I'm not into the stereotypical action movies men are supposed to like, just like I don't like watching sports either. Bond is supposed to be an icon for straight guys, and they're welcome to him.
Although I don't think Craig is traditionally handsome I do think he has sex appeal and magnetism. I think Cavill would be a complete dud in the part. I don't find him a bit compelling nor a very good actor. I'd like to see Michael Fassbender as Bond when Craig's time is up.
The product placement has become very, very obtrusive.
Cavill is currently filming "Man from UNCLE" which is pretty much his screen test for Bond.
My parents, who were born in the 1920s, always thought that the notion of secret policemen being heroes a rather sinister and odd idea. Mention the word "spy" to them and it conjured the images of the secret police forces of the totalitarian regimes reigning terror throughout the 20th century.
Not to mention our current FBI, CIA, FEMA and a host of other alphabet agencies. The Bond films glorifies the joys of a police state, which is why TPTB promoted them during the Baby Boomer generation.
So here we are today, worshiping a hero who has the license to kill each and anyone of us at any time and anyplace since the Patriot Act has declared all of us potential enemy combatants.
R34 what has the patriot act got to do with a British agent?
The US and UK are tightly connected in that regard, R35
I'm another one for Sean Connery. I couldn't watch Roger Moore. He was out of shape. Connery set the tone for what I expected. Daniel Craig fills the bill.
I really miss the scary Russian ladies with daggers in their shoes.
The weapons SUCKED in the most recent one. A hipster Q also seems ill-advised.
FEMA is the Federal Emergency Management Agency. It's job is disaster relief. It has nothing to do with spying or law enforcement.
I want Daniel Craig to fuck me raw.
...and stockpiling creepy plastic coffins for future use, R39.
I'm only interested in the opening titles
r34 NAILED it. Thread closed. His critique is EXACTLY why I would NEVER play Bond regardless of how much they BEGGED me to.