Baby Formula, Razors, and Cigarettes locked behind glass cases
I was visiting friends for dinner. Anyway I stopped at a grocery store in their neighborhood (a very nice neighborhood) and noticed that the cigarettes, baby formula and razors are in locked glass cases in the front of the store.
Now, I understand that it is probably to prevent theft, since razors and cigarettes are pretty damned expensive. But, baby formula? From what I can tell the cans are pretty big. How does one steal a big can of formula? And isn't it cheaper to just breast feed?
Numerous reasons why formula is used - like the baby rejecting mother's milk.
It's pretty expensive and lots of low income people have lots of babies, so it's one of those things that is more likely to get stolen. Even if it's hard to hide, they'll still try to steal it.
Diapers also are often locked up, along with deodorant/antiperspirant and Tide detergent (but no other brands).
Many items are now locked away, especially in drug stores such as CVS, Rite Aid, Walgreens, etc. because these items are now popular currency in drug transactions. Drug addict steals some Tide with a retail value of $20. Trades it for $10 worth of drugs. Drug dealers sell it to a guy who has a stand at a flea market for $12. Guy sells it at the flea market for $15. You and I wonder how it is that the fellow at the flea market can sell $20 Tide for $15.
R3, are you saying there's an underground economy in which laundry detergent is accepted as a form of currency? Because that sounds a little crazy.
Don't you queens always bitch about women breast-feeding in public?
I think this says something about life in the U.S.
r4 - that's exactly right, but not all laundry detergent -- just Tide is used as currency. No kidding.
It is a meth precursor.
What is? Tide??
R4 - yes. Tide is especially popular. Just Google "Tide as currency" or check out the link.
The one I hate is the razor blades locked away in a cabinet that is in the aisle. You have to track down an employee and then they act like it's a complete chore and you're wasting their precious time to have them unlock the cabinet for you.
Sounds like a shitty neighborhood. Glad I live in the burbs where I've seen people leaving their car windows OPEN on a hot day.
Actually, that was too much said, R5.
Shut the fuck up, you homophobic piece of shit and get off of the DL. We don't need your kind around here.
Honey, I been here forever, and I ain't leaving for you.
The baby formula is a precursor, which blows my mind.
Like I said this is a very nice neighborhood, great schools, all that jazz. Not that rich people don't steal, but it was surprising to see this stuff in glass cases.
Also, I didn't know that some babies will reject their mother's milk. Thanks for the information, not that I will ever need it, but it is nice to know. -OP
[quote] Sounds like a shitty neighborhood. Glad I live in the burbs where I've seen people leaving their car windows OPEN on a hot day.
I live in the 'burbs too. Where they still lock up the formula, razors, condoms, Nicorette and the like, etc.
I read somewhere that when stolen credit cards are used at a supermarket, the most commonly purchased items are beer, razor blades, disposable diapers and formula. Makes sense in a fucked up way.
[quote]I read somewhere that when stolen credit cards are used at a supermarket, the most commonly purchased items are beer, razor blades, disposable diapers and formula. Makes sense in a fucked up way.
Makes sense to me. If I had a baby, I'd need to anesthetize myself before slitting my wrists.
There are factors which impact theft rates that have little to do with how much money your customers have.
1) How much the item costs and how frequently the thief purchases the item.
2) How easy would the theft be.
Tactics stores use to prevent shoplifting are based upon the expense of the tactic and lose of sales. Razors, baby formula and cigarettes need to display cases. A locked display case is actually not that much more expensive considering how long it will probably be used.
With baby formula, razors and cigarettes the likely hood of the customer finding getting a clerk to assist them enough to make them walk away is low. All three are things you will have to purchase somewhere. Easier to get a clerk than drive to another store.
On the other hand - put candy under lock and key will discourage almost all impulse purchase. The theft you wold prevent would cost you less than the lost sales.
Finally - grocery store displays and fixtures are usually determine at the corporate level. They are also usually the same for all locations.
When I moved from SF in 2008, a lot of Walgreens had Robitussin cough syrup locked up. Seriously.
Air fresheners and over the counter pain reliever medicines go missing apparently at my local Walmart. The air freshener sections buzzes and I have actually heard people rattle as they leave the aspirin section.
Those two sections are often empty of a lot of products.
I've never seen any of these things locked away but I've seen cough medicine and condoms locked away.
There are no locked cases in any stores where I live. Of course, it's an all-white area in Connecticut so that's probably the reason why.
Because of SIZZURP, R22.
r21 has the most fractured writing. The first two points are lost on me.
I'm really stunned about the Tide economy.
Note to self: if I am ever shopping for baby formula, razor blades, or cigarettes late at night or in a hideous neighborhood, don't waste time browsing the aisles. Ask for help.
I recently bought a couple of cans of air duster from Target, and they fucking ran my license like I was buying a controlled item. It surprised me, but the kid who was ringing me up claimed it was because people were using the cans to break locks???!!!
r30, people also inhale that duster. There was an Intervention episode about a female med school student who was completely strung out on it 24/7. It was the most disturbing episode I've ever seen (besides the one where the woman cradles and guzzles bottles of mouthwash in front of her kids).
The Tide economy article in NYMagazine (link above) was a revelation. It was so interesting to learn the WalMart doesn't give a shit if it gets stolen. That's because WalMart doesn't actually "own" anything on their shelves until it is purchased.
So, Proctor & Gamble owns the Tide until the split second the register rings it up. Then ownership is transferred from P&G to WalMart and then to the customer. WalMart could care less if you steal it - it isn't their problem its P&G's problem. So interesting and so telling.
I used to work at Shoppers Drug Mart, where we kept baby formula locked in cabinets as well.
At the time, my manager told me that baby formula is the #1 most stolen item in Canada. Linked article mentions it is used to cut coke and heroin.
When I was out of work for a while raising my daughter I can clearly remember what a budget-buster formula was. And diapers.
I had a very difficult time breastfeeding and trust me it would have been a hell of a lot cheaper so I would have if I could have. I never got desperate enough to steal it, but I sure thought about it. There are so many people with less than me - I couldn't blame them if they did steal it. I believe it is artificially priced so high. Formula should be affordable for everyone.
Drug addicts also steal baby formula and return it elsewhere because it's expensive and gets them a lot of cash back. It was discussed on a relatively recent episode of Intervention.
Is this your first time out of Mommy and Daddy's Gated Community, Jayden?
[quote]I've seen cough medicine and condoms locked away.
What Bible Belt shithole do you live in where people are forced to ask a clerk for condoms? Is it 1982 where you live?
R17, because they don't. However, unless a working mother wants to pump milk, she will not produce enough for a baby once she is back at work.
Oh, wow. The first page of the NY Mag article had me cracking up. I have a hard time picturing how someone can abscond with one of those huge, heavy Tide containers let alone many of them. And it has to be Tide. What a revelation the article is after just one page.
What a depressing thread. People have to steal food for their BABIES?
Ugh. I hate this world.
Desperate people do desperate things. Massive numbers of poor people are a threat to our national security. So up goes the gated communities and here comes the hummers. Pass the CCWs around...
How can people shoplift one of those big gallon bottles of Tide? How do they hide it?
I've known about the Tide thing for years, but have never understood it. I have always HATED Tide, and groaned whenever my parents bought it (I preferred Cheer, Wisk, Gain, All & others).
Tide makes laundry smell like cat pee. Especially Tide powder. And the smell lingers and increases if you iron your clothes.
Never got the Tide love. Makes sense if it's a meth precursor, since I understand methmaking smells like cat piss, too.
I think all laundry detergent is basically the same, I've used them all. I currently use the ghetto Xtra detergent, with Spanish written all over the bottle, that's $4 a gallon and it's exactly the same as the Tide I used to use.
There was a Cracked article about this stuff. Apparently socks are used to sniff paint trough them, shoe laces used by people who shoot to tie their arm and crack heads love little glass tubes where they sell plastic roses in.
okay kids..this is the lowdown. people are stealing formula to feed their kids. they sell it in the ghetto for less than it costs in the stores so that the seller can get fast cash. the same goes for chewing gum, razors, etc. chewing gum in particular is very hot right now.
whoops, sorry. i am typing from my phone and that meant to say they ARE NOT stealing baby food to feed their kids..but they can buy it from the person who did steal it on the street for much less than they can in a store. the person selling it needs hard cash and the person buying it usually gets it for less, unless they're on welfare and use food stamps. or they use food stamps for other things and buy it cheap off the streets. sometimes it's used in drug transactions.
What happens to the Tide? Does it wind up on the shelves of inner city corner stores?
Its getting to the point where I can't relate to you in the USA.
Why don't you gays find a nice Continental man and move over here? Seriously.
Straights, you can stay right where you're standing.
I seem to remember reading that baby formula powder can also be used to dilute cocaine.
r47, r34 here. Just so you know, there are mothers really struggling to feed their kids. I WAS tempted to steal the formula. But I didn't. It is way overpriced. And I wasn't on welfare or anything. Just out of work on short term disability (making 90 bucks a week - thanks New York State) while I cared for my newborn. This system we live in hurts people badly.
Why do poor people who can't even afford to take care of themselves have children? I will never understand it.
What's the ingredient in Tide that's used by drug dealers? Something that isn't in Cheer, Wisk or other brands - never heard of this.
I know Tide is more expensive because it's supposed to be a "premiere" brand among detergents (I don't like it personally) but never knew it had a different ingredient composition.
Totally with you, r45. I actually like the smell of the detergent in the dark and light green bottles. It gets stains out better than Tide and is super cheap.
I don't care who sees the bottle in my recycling bin.