I've read of this being very staged, so the BF and I have been crawling the web for many of these people after being frustrated is seeing so many people near or around our own ages being able to just pick up, leave jobs and buy fabulous homes in exotic places.
On one recent episode, we're treated to the house hunting of Paul Sloan and his wife Suzanne, (she's originally from Tahiti). We're shown that Paul has had enough of his hectic lifestyle as a marketing exec. in Los Angeles. And, being told by both the narrator AND Paul Sloan himself, he's decided to quit his job, pick up the wife and son, (Maui. Yes, their kid's name is Maui.) and move them to Tahiti... to find a house with a budget of $700,000.00 Paul states that they'll be living solely on their savings and that he has no job. It even shows him coming home for allegedly the last day of his job. The wife is over-the-top high maintenance, and they eventually settle on a home within their budget and are shown to be living happily ever after on the island.... Only, it isn't true.
Digging up information on this guy, (we used Lexis and Google as well as FaceBook and LinkedIn), we found out he never actually left California and is the director of sales and marketing for the tourism arm of San Louis Obispo, California.
Paul Sloan Tweets under his own (@pstahiti1) name and it's clear from his social media postings he lives nowhere near Tahiti, or at least fulltime.
On his private webpage, his profile states he's operated diving schools in Mexico, the Caribbean and.... TAHITI!!
SO: The Sloans are apparently better off than we've been left to believe, they operate businesses in Tahiti after the show portrays Paul as a complete newcomer to the islands, and they live, at least most of the time, back in California.
Yeah, I know we knew these shows were heavily staged, I just thought we'd have some fun with getting the lowdown on some of their subject matters and finding out as much as we could on one of these couple, and of course I wanted to share it with my DL friends.
"...director of sales and marketing for the tourism arm of San Louis Obispo, California."
How much does one make when they do something like this for a living?
Not sure R1, but doesn't seem like it'd be a lot, and definitely seems a bit of a step down from being a "Marketing executive in Los Angeles"..
My guess is that he's had the same job all along and they simply played him up as a high flying L.A. marketing guy. They show him driving around L.A., on a headset in his car demanding someone on the other end book his flight to some place.. They never show any burbs or places outside of LA and we're told they live there.
We're also told several times on the show that he's just so nervous about giving up his job and living in Tahiti, but it's all for his wife and son, and how they'll have to live off his savings, etc. We're never told he owns diving schools or is a county marketing director or anything like that.
I don't even watch HGTV that often but after beginning to read here on DL a while back that a lot of what they produce is cheap, fake and staged, it made me curious during the weekends when we'd watch the HouseHunter shows while doing chores around the house.
I've posted here before about this, but a friend of mine was on some HGTV show about Decorating For the Sexes or something like that.
First: they weren't a couple, but just friends (he was gay). They showed up at a strangers' house and pretended it was theirs, then were taken to a furniture store and a patio store by the "designer" and a camera crew. At each place they were instructed what to say they liked and didn't like.
A couple of days later they went back to the house, where the furniture they "liked" was installed, and they were told to talk about how much they liked living there now. The whole thing was a sham.
I've read elsewhere that "House Hunters" starts with people who have already bought a house -- then they take them to other houses on the market, where they pretend they're thinking about them.
When I stop to think about it, the fact that House Hunters and House Hunters International are both run on continuous loops, especially on the weekend, (about 24/7 on Sundays), it would make sense they're all fake.
Seems like it would be difficult to find THAT many people shopping for 'fabulous' homes both domestically and abroad, or at least so many they're willing to film them. So I suppose it would have to be fake.
That's really shitty though. If you don't have your material for your concept, why produce a show that's 100% pretend, or at least without saying so? (Yeah, I know. MONEY).
That entire HGTV Dream Home thing I believe is complete bullshit as well. I remember a few years ago some newspaper in North Carolina (I think it was N.C. anyway) started doing some digging around and published a couple of stories on it, but then they were quickly stopped. I don't remember the details around it. Does anyone else remember that?
2012 article on a House Hunters family spilling their guts on what it was like being on the show.
Yep, it's all fake.
[quote] better off than we've been left to believe
It's "been led to believe."
That is why I loved the English version of House Swap, or what ever that decorating show was that two families would trade houses and decorate one room. In the US version it was so fake. In the English version it was quite possible that someone would look at the new room and call it absolute crap.
I honestly don't know why reality TV is not more regulated.
Can we please stop having threads that excoriate fraus on HGTV who want cherry cabinets, granite countertops and Jack and Jill bathrooms? And the "idiot pussy-whipped straight men" and "raging queens" who comment on the paint and light fixtures?
All of the shows are fake and scripted.
You're getting your panties in a wad over something an HGTV producer told a family to complain about. You're sneering at people "thinking they deserve a house way above their price range" when they never really considered such a thing. And then you are generalizing your incorrect sneer to the rest of the population. Yes, many of you are making sage pronouncements about the average North American population based on fake tv shows.
It's like making generalizations about the North American public based on something said on an episode of The Family Guy.
The fake thing sort of annoys me, but what really annoys me is that almost every goddamned show is set in Cananda.
Wow - R5 - that was an amazing article. Why doesn't somebody sue HGTV for this fraud?
R8 hon, is the irony of your ranting post lost on you?
Yeah, we thought it was. Take your pills baby and get back to us later. You've obviously had a long night. Or bad psych visit.
I am surprised HGTV hasn't enforced some sort of non-disclosure.
We’ve learned that the pursuit of the perfect home involves big decisions that usually take place over a prolonged period of time — more time than we can capture in 30 minutes of television.
However, with a series like House Hunters, HGTV viewers enjoy the vicarious and entertaining experience of choosing a home — from establishing a budget, to touring properties and weighing the pros and cons of each one.
We’re making a television show, so we manage certain production and time constraints, while honoring the home buying process. To maximize production time, we seek out families who are pretty far along in the process.
Often everything moves much more quickly than we can anticipate, so we go back and revisit some of the homes that the family has already seen and we capture their authentic reactions.
Because the stakes in real estate are so high, these homeowners always find themselves RIGHT back in the moment, experiencing the same emotions and reactions to these properties.
Showcasing three homes makes it easier for our audience to “play along” and guess which one the family will select. It’s part of the joy of the House Hunters viewing experience. Through the lens of television, we can offer a uniquely satisfying and fun viewing experience that fulfills a universal need to occasionally step into someone else’s shoes.
R13's post is from HGTV's response to the scandal about their staged shows, I think specifically regarding the article @ R5.
Notice they didn't deny it.
I suppose you have to put HGTV in the same category as Bravo, it's all, 100% "reality television) (i.e. stage, scripted trash television.), only they don't want you knowing that.
Totally staged. One of my sister's best friends was on it recently with her husband. They had already bought the house. They were told to move the furniture. And they were told to squabble.
[quote] is the irony of your ranting post lost on you?
No, hon. There's no irony. Those of us who know the show is fake don't go making sweeping pronouncements about the American and Canadian public based on this fake show. But Dataloungers? Even after being told that everything about the show is fake will make statements like these.
[quote] The most annoying ones are the parents of little Dakota and Madysen who say shit like "oh, there's stairs and I'd worry about the kids" or "a pool? what if the babies fall in?". What on earth did my parents do before all this hovering and over the top safety consciousness? Maybe they let us fall down once in a while and watched us around water? Amazing that whole generations of kids grew up without helicopter parents.
[quote] The idea of a first or second house as the 'dream house' is a reflection of society. In years past, people understood the idea of a 'starter' house and upgrading over time.
[quote] Rich people concede things from their wish lists when they buy houses, yet people stretching to buy a modest starter home evidently feel they are immune from such indignities -- and want it all, now.
Comments from Dataloungers after they've been repeatedly told that the prospective buyers never considered two of the houses -- including the one that is way over their budget -- and who have been told to criticize things like a stairway if they've bought a ranch. But by all means, keep making generalizations about humanity based on this fake show.
R16, but it is presented as reality, and the behavior is presented as acceptable. People watch the show and mimic the behavior. They think it is what they are supposed to do. The majority of people do NOT see these shows as being fake. They see then as a blueprint for what they should do when they look for a house.
Having known several people associated in various ways with HGTV and its parent Scripps Interactive Network, all left in something of a hurry, appalled not by HGTV's fakery but by the network's overriding cheapness -- about everything.
Churning out so many episodes of their various house hunting shows, it shouldn't be a surprise that the programs are produced with an eye to economy, with shortcuts and a certain dishonesty at the core of things.
Even though House Hunters loves the scenario of someone who blows into town and has to find a house in one afternoon, that's a highly unusual thing -- and all the more unusual to be able to coordinate filming of such a buyer. Typically, house hunting requires days and weeks, even months -- just to find the right property, never mind submitting a successful offer and going to settlement on the place (which House Hunters rarely touches on.)
Even all-cash transactions at full asking price rarely move as fast as HGTV would imply, let alone repainting and renovations and moving and unpacking which are accomplished in the magic of the "six weeks later" follow-up footage.
I suppose some people look at just three houses and make a decision: one house lacking major requirements, one wildly in excess of stated budget, and the third meeting all on-paper criteria except that it's dreadful AND 35-miles in the wrong direction. Most people, though, look at far more properties over far greater a period of time.
And if HGTV were responsible for so many pregnancies in the midst of house searches, they would chuck it all in for big bucks and become infertility specialists.
Of course House Hunters doesn't send out teams of producers and camera and sound people and electricians and lighting experts. They rely exclusively on cheap, contract film crews who work from written stage directions that follow a formula more rigid than Law & Order ever was.
The result are shows that exhibit the full range of shows from the "conveniently" edited to the outright faked, where realtors hungry for business team up with lazy contract producers. HGTV wants contract footage that is formulaic, and can be easily, economically cobbled together in its own studios, and, at the end, a voiceover -- from the ghost of Suzanne Whang (who left House Hunters five years ago.)
It's a highly engineered, carefully orchestrated "reality"/"documentary" hybrid with a fair dose of fiction introduced "for the benefit of the camera." Barring the now ridiculous scripted House Hunter-isms, it's also sometimes entertaining and sometimes entertaining in a love-to-hate- it way. In short, it's like a lot of TV that's neither expressly fictional drama nor expressly fictional comedy.
I remember watching one of these house hunting shows that was set in the UK. The wife's mum was moving in with them, so they needed "more space."
They looked at the requisite 3 properties. One was a derelict slum house with a soggy, weed-strewn and board-littered "garden." The house itself should have been condemned. It was filthy, dark, dank and scary inside.
Of course, they picked the awful slum house. The narrator said they "picked the larger fixer-upper, which has room for mum!" They "returned three months later" and it was exactly as bad as it had been before, right down to the weedy, puddled yard. I realized there was no husband. I think the family had to sell the house after a divorce and this slum dwelling was all they could afford. But of course, House Hunters would never propose such a sad story for their show, so they dressed it up as "moving to a larger home " ( which wasn't larger than their original home).
HGTV has a "diversity goal" which I think exceeds the national average for black/white couples by far. It is usually a black male with white wife. What is the purpose of this? To encourage mixed couples? Their representation does not align itself with the national averages and makes it seem that there are many more than the census count.
I still don't understand why so many of you give a shit about the people. I watch for exactly the reason HGTV describes--vicariously house-searching in any given area. I could give a shit about who the homeowners are, what they say, or what they think. The only thing I want accuracy about is the cost of the home, and the budget.
Well, R20, it's a TV show and I doubt they consult the national averages. I've seen black females with white or Hispanic males. There are more than a few gay couples presented as well. Either way, I certainly don't have a problem with it. I think it's great.
R21, we still don't understand why you give a shit about this thread.
Move along, toots.
Get over it, R23.
I agree with R21 The fun of the show is looking at the interiors and backyards of random various homes in relation to location and list price. All the other crap - the couples, realtor -is extraneous.
They used to do a lot of AZ and CA tract homes. I was really surprised at how little land comes with a house out there. And I was shocked at the dirt-trampled tiny CA back yards. Nobody had a garden or nice area out there. Lots of cement "patios"
Saw one with ex military couple who were spending a million on a new place in Florida and the frau had the nerve to say that it would take a lot of work and money to remove some wallpaper. Also hate it when they say that the powder room is too small! So lame. At least you get a good geography lesson watching the international shows.
R27: I saw that episode, too, but was more amused at how the whole move was predicated on the ex-military couple being near another couple and their desire to live within absolute spitting distance of one another.
There was something more than a little louche about the house hunting couple, something that smacked of Swingin' Seventies key parties, and a retirement built upon cheesy double entendres and wife swapping.
Please, more people watch the show to hate it and the people that appear on than to "enjoy the vicarious and entertaining experience of choosing a home." The HHI episodes that take place in European cities are the only ones that are actually interesting.
Another show that is hate-watched is "Bang For Your Buck," where nit-picky designers and real estate "experts" bitch and moan about countertops, vanities and flooring choices while the homeowners seethe as they watch on a monitor. That blond mother-daughter team that started the show were the worst.
My point on "diversity" is they promote some forms of diversity over others. Why not let society develop without targeting a type of diversity?
OP, Nobody gives a shit.
Nobody cares about the buyers. Their backstory is nothing background noise. Their commentary is nothing but dead air filler.
The house is already bought, yes we know.
The shows are nothing but real estate porn. And that's what people are watching for.
The only other thing is to try to guess which house they already bought. See if they give it away while trying to act unimpressed.
On the domestic front, they seem to be moving away from tract houses. BORING!
And on the International program they seem to be moving away from tourist condos. BORING! Switching it over to "rentals" so we can see some real houses.
[quote] Nobody cares about the buyers
How wrong you are.
Datalounge has for years had threads devoted to nothing but the buyers on this show.
I love House Hunters but my favorite is HH International. Not so fond of tropical HHIs but love European, Asian, and other international locales.
I don't care if they are staged, I like seeing the local color, the houses and landscapes. The people can be interesting too. One family toured a Harry Pottyish Tudor relic outside Paris. It was wondrous.
It's amazing how many Americans are moving abroad for adventure. I'd like to see some follow up on them. Did Paris live up to their dreams or are they the same boring slug they were in DC? Nosy parkers want to know.
this is why they are now airing "HH - Where are they Now"!
Damage control for being exposed as fake a year ago. So they can prove the couple actually bought the home.
But the fraud is that the homeowners are selected becuase they already have a home in escrow. And offer has already been made. Then they go look at the house (as if for the first time) and two others. So they really DO move in to the homes. But I love trying to figure out which one it is that they've already made an offer on. Sometimes the amatuer acting is so bad, it's obvious.
I think at least some of these are fake. There was one, this VERY high maintenance chic who just had to have her $300k getaway in,I think it was Bali, becuase she was just sooooooooo stressed in her career selling her custom made jewelry. The showed her hard at "work," we were supposed to believe that people paid her thousands of dollars for some plastic beads that she would string together. I mean come on, plastic beads on a string???? This was either fake, or she had inherited wealth. There are indeed people,who have been very successful with custom made jewelry, using precious and semiprecious materials, but all she was doing was stinging plastic beads!!!!!!!
I've done the same double takes r35.
The true dubious show with fake buyers and sellers is Million Dollar Listing New York (and LA)!!!
I can't even watch it anymore. It's fakeness is too irritating.
Is Love It or List It a fake show too? My roommate watches and I'm always surprised at how terrible that English lady is. There's always some big issue they didn't foresee that involves drama and more cost. How come they didn't see it?
[quote]But the fraud is that the homeowners are selected because they already have a home in escrow
That's only for the domestic HH. The International HH is worse fakery. They have already owned the home for many years and are picked because they are Americans living abroad, usually with something to promote (see OP's example).
[quote]Is Love It or List It a fake show too?
Yes, see above links. They always film 2 endings, where they chose both options, and the producers decide afterwards which one to use. They NEVER actually list their home in reality, they all use the show to get discount redecorating done.
[quote] It's amazing how many Americans are moving abroad for adventure.
It's pretty easy to figure out that a good deal of those on the show doing so are religious fundies no doubt being sent to some godforsaken hellhole in service to their religion to convert the heathens.
R30 obviously society *is* developing, and this is reflected on the show. These people exist. Gay and "mixed" couples remain a small subset of the couples shown on HGTV, just like in real life.
Of all the things to complain about, really.
r41, I was simply making an observation, not necessarily a complaint. I object to the promotion of a particular demographic whether gay/straight, interracial, mixed, etc. I cite statistics that the actual numbers of specific couples is less than the tv show projects.
And since it's all staged, the "characterizations" play into gender stereotypes about women and men. Of course she wants the perfect kitchen, and all he cares about it finding the ideal "man cave" to watch sports, drink beer, and play poker with his bros.
R42, You call it "promotion", they likely call it reaching their audience. I mean, what would they have to gain by promoting such a thing?
But let's go there. What are the statistics about gay couples and interracial couples, and what is the percentage of such couples shown on HGTV?
P.S.--An objection is a complaint.
People are such stupes.
Literally, I was channel surfing as I brought up this thread and came across Long Island Medium. I thought, "Ha! Talk about a fake show!" So I left it on and within 10 seconds, this fake convinces someone she's psychic. They're in an acupuncture office and the medium is going, "Someone has a stomach problem?" no answer. "Maybe pregnancy?"
Well, this sad sack woman says yes, she has fertility problems and is trying to get pregnant. "Did your grandmother knit or crochet?" No response. "Because I sense a lot of folded baby blankets."
"I had a lot of miscarriages," the sad sack lady says.
"Ah. So these are the spirits of your children," says psychic lady.
Later, the woman says, "It's amazing that she knew I had all these miscarriages."
Uh, no. She didn't know about the miscarriages. You TOLD her you were having problems with pregnancy, you TOLD her you had miscarriages. The psychic woman had been blundering around talking about stomach problems and your grandmother, trying to hit on something you could respond to.
Plus, the director didnt show the entire time they were in the office waiting area. For all we know, psychic lady could have been asking, "Is anyone having a problem with their mother? Their daughter? Their son, uncle, grandfather? Anybody die lately? A relative, friend, neighbor, teacher...a dead pet? Did a neighbors pet die? Did anyone run over an animal? Anything? Bueller?"
I wouldn't mind if the fake psychic lady did her thing for free and just got paid by the show. But she gets paid $400 for a half an hour by grieving people. And she gets thousands of Lola's for appearances where desperate people pay to see her and they never get to talk to her. I don't like that shit.
I think she's worse that HGTV. It doesn't take money out of my pocket when they air their fake shows. But LI Medium is little more than a pickpocket as far as I'm concerned.
I just read a thread on TWOP for Househunters where someone said $4000/month is not unusual for housing costs. Is that true? I'm not in the highest cost areas like NY, LA or San Fran... but still, I pay about 30-40% of that in the suburbs. Do that many people really spend $50,000 annually on their housing?
OP, I know Paul Sloan. He worked for Club Med for several years as a dive instructor, then worked in Club Med Corporate I think, then got recruited to work for the Tahitian office of tourism in LA. His tahitian wife wanted to raise their son back home near her family, and he worked for a resort while there. After the economy plummeted things got tough in Tahitian tourism and he had the opportunity to move back to where he grew up near San Luis Obispo. What's weird is that they lived in Tahiti for a few years, so I don't know if they fake reenacted their move from years ago or what.
The husband of a friend of mine works in the reality TV business. She says that 99 percent of the conflict you see on these shows is scripted or created in the editing room. Editors spend hours and hours joining random bits of tape together to create tension and drama.
[quote]All of the shows are fake and scripted
Of course they are. Can you imagine trying to get someone to actually pick out furniture, much less a house in a few days?
Anyone watching right now? Helicopter mom married closet Gaysian!
[quote]Plus, the director didnt show the entire time they were in the office waiting area. For all we know, psychic lady could have been asking, "Is anyone having a problem with their mother? Their daughter? Their son, uncle, grandfather? Anybody die lately? A relative, friend, neighbor, teacher...a dead pet? Did a neighbors pet die? Did anyone run over an animal? Anything? Bueller?"
Great post, r47
detailed and accurate inside information!
I recently watched HHI where a het couple moved from GA to Blackburn, UK (Alas, no legendary 4,000 holes).
The wife was the most snippy, miserable mental case I think I've ever seen on that show. Her voice was maniacally mean. When shown the kitchen without a dishwasher, she snottily declared, "This is what we Americans call roughing it." I wanted to light her head on fire like a Halloween pumpkin.
Then there was Canadian gay couple Gordo and Nicholas on Love it or List It, who showed it is possible for two people to live together while dwelling on differing points on the autism spectrum scale.
The 2 shows I watch are Curb Appeal the Block and Candice Olson.
What's the lowdown on those 2 shows ?
I knew this house hunter program was a fraud the very first year. They had that druggie Corey (Haim?), the Corey that is still alive. Now, this is an ex-child actor that hasn't worked in, what, 30 years? He can't even get arrested.
So he is in NYC looking at enormous lofts in Tribeca, I mean 2.5 million dollar lofts. He hammers and haws and looks around and then his girlfriend talks him into it because "he deserves it!".
The guy can't even afford subway fare. It was hilarious.
The worst episodes are in Atlanta, where housing is super cheap and the homebuyers are ghetto as hell with unrealistic expectations and "knowledge" they clearly gained from watching hgtv shows. One woman with a 150k budget was looking at a huge bedroom and complaining it didn't have tray ceilings. I mean WTF.
I enjoyed HGTV so much more when they had lots of TV shows. Now it's only the 2 versions of HouseHunters and Love It or Leave It.
I actually learned some things when they had all the different shows.
Why did they limit themselves ?
of course theyre fake-did you ever see anyone on House Hunters that didnt get the house they decided on-and, who buys a house based on 3 choices?
I really miss the programming that got me interested in HGTv in the first place. ROOM BY ROOM, ROOM FOR CHANGE, DESIGN ON A DIME(the Lee Snijders years), CAROL DUVALL, and especially DECORATING CENTS.
I don't know how anyone can watch Love It or List It. That camera pan and voiceover: Will they love it (agonizingly long questioning grimace) or LIIIIST it!!!!
Like nails on a chalkboard.
John Giddening is my reason for watching HGTV.
Hottest thing on 2 legs.
Who owns HGTV now? Who owned HGTV in the 1990's?
All of cable tv was better in the 90s. Nick at Night, CNN, HGTV.
[quote]One family toured a Harry Pottyish Tudor relic outside Paris. It was wondrous.
Holy shit, that's my favorite episode EVAR!!! I even saved it on my DVR rather than delete it like I do all the others so I can watch it again. And as an added bonus, the realtor on that episode is DL-favorite *Adrian Leeds*!
Have you seen the redneck renovation show on BIO? They use $20,000 and sears products and renovate maggoty hovels to make them less maggoty. You won't get granite countertops and cherry cabinets, but you will get stainless steel appliances from sears and something to go over the plywood floors.
open concept, stainless steel appliances, kitchen island, granite countertops, soaking tub, 2 sinks, man cave, hardwood floors, zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
boring straight people and their bark-o-lounger lives
It pains me to watch shows with people buying million dollar homes. My partner and I both make over 100k, yet we can't imagine going for such extravagant properties. I just can't find any pleasure in watching this, and I can't understand why people who are worse off enjoy those shows either.
Hideous Houses, that's the name of the BIO redneck version
One constant that ran with just about every couple was room for entertaining. Now how often do people entertain outside of the holidays? And I love that "Selling New York"..quote "she wanted a terrace and views and her budget was two million" the other broker "get real, does she know this is Manhattan."
I watch both House Hunters and House Hunters International mainly for some of those husbands..lucky wives indeed.
HH used to have a dramatic call from the realtor at the end letting them know their offer was accepted. That was always so badly done.
The narrator ruins the show for me. Years ago there was a show called Buy Me that had a host who just enough sarcasm to make the show fun. He was also kind of creepy, also fun.
I like "For Rent." The host is cute and fun and the apartments are usually shitholes, so you get to see them transform one room of the shithole into something nice.
"All of cable tv was better in the 90s. Nick at Night, CNN, HGTV."
We had fewer channels, but more original and inventive product. Only premium event channels like HBO, AMC and Showtime have improved their original programming. I think it was the advent of 1) the internet, 2) digital mutichannels, 3) media consolidation and 4) reality tv that contributed to the decline of cable quality.
There was a HHI show recently where a young couple got a great apartment in a Spanish town near the beach for something like $500 a month. I think it was furnished, too. I want to move there.
So why did HGTV change their format from a large variety of interesting and helpful shows to huge marathons of only a few shows?
I've gone to the HGTV message boards and the posters there are very unhappy with programming. It'd 80% Love It of List It, House Hunters and House Hunters International.
It's now even hard to find the shows of HGTV break out stars- Candice Olson and Color Splash.
I miss little Lisa La Porta.
God, I watched a Househunters tonight with this girl from Connecticut who was whining and bitching about all three properties they showed. She was looking for a starter home for $200k so it's not like she could get everything she wanted. Of course by the end she picked one, and it was just perfect for her and she was soooo happy!
I'm a greeter at Walmart now.
Fuck. My. Life.
R71, I used to love that show "Buy Me" also. It had a dry wit to it and not all the stories ended the same way. Did you notice it was a Canadian produced show, perhaps that is why it had a different spin to it.
[quote] So why did HGTV change their format from a large variety of interesting and helpful shows to huge marathons of only a few shows?
Because people still watch it.
They put it on as background noise. Especially in doctor and dentist offices. People at home still watch it, too. If they'd stop watching, it might change.
Frankly, I really don't care if the scripts are made up or even half made up. I am more interested in seeing the houses on the show and learning about different cities. And I don't understand why others are upset that the show is possibly scripted. What difference does it make to your life? I think we should all just sit back and enjoy the show and if you are upset that Mr & Mrs Too Perfect can up and leave their lives in LA and move to Tahiti (even if they really did NOT move to Tahiti) then I suggest you get a hobby.
Just watched a HHS International episode where a couple wanted to move to the Italian countryside with their *nine* children. (By the way, it needed to be under $1000 a month, furnished, and close to town because they don't have a car.)
When they started bitching to the realtor about the size and location of the places, and how they weren't "practical", I wanted the realtor to tell them what really wasn't fucking PRACTICAL about this scenario.
Do the producers not like women very much? Because about half the women on the shows are total flakes or greedy bitches.
[quote] So why did HGTV change their format from a large variety of interesting and helpful shows to huge marathons of only a few shows?
Because networks like this have just become places where shows are played as bumpers between advertisements.
They probably lost a shit-ton of money and decided to rerun stuff generated by other networks (ergo the reliance on Canadian content).
R84, apparently you haven't been around married women very much.
Are they still hiring actors to play couples looking for homes? There was a couple on last night's HH Renovation that had the gayest "straight" husband I've ever seen. They met doing musical theater. He insisted on having a bathtub in the master bath. They host poker parties where the wife is the only woman there.
He was very cute in a Jake Gyllenhall way but I didn't believe for a minute he was straight. They were much more like fag and hag couple. At least she wasn't hinting about kids every 30 seconds like most HH newlyweds.
There is an honest version of HH International on the BBC called Escape to the Continent about house hunters from Britain looking to move to Spain, Cyprus, France, etc. I have yet to see an episode where somebody actually buys something. That's real life, honest, unlike House Hunters which is a fraud.
[quote]They host poker parties where the wife is the only woman there.
R88, I loved the British version of the decorating show where people switched houses. In the USA, is was all lovey dovey, this is Wonderful. In the British version, people would call the new decor crap, and cry because the design painted over an Edwardian stenciled frieze.
UK tv has several great house hunting type programs. Homes Under the Hammer is my favorite, love to see what people do with shitty run down properties
The Flip It or Keep It format is time worn. The female Brit always runs into a structural horror story which uses up 90% of the couples' money.
r87 was this the couple who live in a New York walk-up and bought a house in the Catskills?
Any UK'ers can you answer a question for me? Sarah Beeny - does she actually have any DIY skills? I know she did that show where her and her husband were redoing that mansion, but it rarely showed her actually doing work. Then there was that show about houses that were falling apart and she'd show up, spew a bunch of DIY terms and then take off to let someone else do the work. Is she just a talking head?
HH Int'l is awesome. I travel a lot, but as a tourist. As such I never really get to see the inside of homes. There are some cultural things that would never occur to me, like the importance of a huge BBQ grill in an Argentinian apartment, or running water in Nepal. I have not been to Mongolia and was surprised by how modern some of the apartment buildings were, right next to the traditional yurts. I liked seeing how apartments in Thailand be modern yet very Thai in decor. I liked seeing the options three American girls have in Australia. Perhaps not the options these particular girls really had, but options nonetheless. It was interesting to see couple of musicians who were looking for a house in France and what factors they had to consider. It was interesting to see the family who moved to Belgium and had a very generous budget but still had to grapple with commute and driving children to school. I don't care if the people are real or if the situation is real, I get to see that in Nicaragua a house is almost open to the street and I know I would never be able to live their on the proposed budget. How is all that NOT interesting?
R83 - I saw that too. One house was amazing, but it was like $100 or $200 over budget. Fuck - if you can't find another $100 a month, your budget is way too fucking tight and you can NOT afford to do this.
They were from some hick town in Indiana - sold all their things and moved to Italy. These were not sophisticated people. and like 8 kids.
The mind reels. Are they eating grass by now?
I just wish these shows had some more realistic stories - more background and houses that are more modest.
Fraud and fakery are the backbone of American culture. How can any adult person be offended buy fairytale TV?
r93, no this couple was from Culver City, CA and moved to Lake Balboa. She seemed to think her manly-man husband could handle doing much of the renovation. He bashed a hole through the living room wall and immediately discovered electrical wiring. Who on earth would start trying to tear down walls without consulting a contractor?