Matthew Broderick as a hot male model in "Torch Song Trilogy." A rodent with eyes is hardly one to make a drag queen swoon.
He really wasn't all that, was he
My understanding is that Matthew was cast in that role because he created the role of David, the son, in the original stage production of the play. He may not have been model-pretty but at the time was considered highly fuckable.
IMO his looks have always been very bland, boring even
Blythe Danner as his Brooklyn Jewish Mama in "Brighton Beach Memoirs" was worse casting.
Diana Ross Double Feature: "Lady Sings The Blues" (she didn't look or sound like Billie Holiday) and "The Wiz", changing the classic story of a girl into that of a 30-ish school teacher WTF.
Matthew was cute back in the day.
The magic of theater seems to have escaped the OP.
I was dumped because my first boyfriend decided he couldn't be with someone who looked that different from Matthew Broderick after we saw 'War Games' together in 1983. It hurt like hell and I comforted myself by saying that Matthew Broderick would be forgotten in two years and my boyfriend would look back at what a total fool he'd been. It's a perpetual cruel twist of the knife in the back that Broderick went on to a fabulous career thirty years now and counting. I don't know what became of the boyfriend. I assume he's living with the alcoholic, doughy lookalike of his dreams while I've had to settle for a current state of living alone.
Colby Keller as a porn performer.
Summer is Sci-Fi time around our place and we were entertaining the kids with some old classics like the 1953 version of War of the Worlds. And Gene Barry was cast as some scientist. Laughably bad. BUT: I have to ask. Was he gay? Because he certainly pinged for me in the opening scenes.
Tom Cruise as Lestat. What were thinking? He looked awful.
Anyone who was ever cast in any movie as a dancer or a fashion model. The "dancers" are never muscular enough and the "models" are always short.
Bette Davis as a renowned beauty in Mr. Skeffington.
Mrs. Alfred Steele
Barbra as the highest priced call girl of the city in NUTS.
It's one thing to suspend disbelief, it's another to lose all sense of reality.
Kate Winslet as a slim, pretty romantic interest in ANYTHING.
Meryl Streep as Julia Child.
Jennifer Love Hewitt as Audrey Hepburn.
Sorry, but I thought Barbra was brilliant in NUTS.
I have to agree on Tom Cruise as Le Stat.
A little closer to now: Johnny Depp as Tonto. Sucked.
Tobey Maguire in everything except for Seabiscuit. He was good in that.
Jake Gyllenhaal in Prince of Persia. Really embarrassingly bad. Career destroyingly bad.
Gwyneth in any film in which she has had to play a human.
Julia Roberts as a person people would pay to have sex with.
When I saw "Nuts", it was all I could do to prevent yelling at the screen, "Who the fuck would pay HER for sex!?"
The entire film is an exhausting series of close-ups too. It's not a very interesting technique.
Don't hate on Matthew Broderick for being in "Torch Song Trilogy".
Not only did he play the role on stage, he did the film after he'd won a Tony and had major film successes with "WarGames" and "Ferris Buehler's Day Off". And this was a time when it was still considered very risky to play a gay character on screen.
In fact, he was one of the major reasons the film version "Torch Song Trilogy" even got made. He was bankable. And for all of us who were not living in NYC or LA, the film was our access to this great work. I am very thankful Broderick agreed to do the film. It was a rough time to be gay; I needed to see this story.
The more egregious performance in that film was that by Anne Bancroft, but that's another debate.
[quote]Sorry, but I thought Barbra was brilliant in NUTS.
I'd be sorry too if I thought that.
[quote]Don't hate on Matthew Broderick for being in "Torch Song Trilogy". Not only did he play the role on stage,
He didn't. He played the part of the teenage boy on stage, not the part of the model.
Barbra Streisand in "Dolly", of course.
Lucille Ball in "Mame", of course.
Cameron Diaz as Miss Hannigan in the forthcoming remake of "Annie".
Tommy Kirk is dubiously cast as a studly football hero in IT'S A BIKINI WORLD, one of the last Surfin' Beach Party movies from the sixties genre. Kirk's shirtless scenes on the beach only call attention to the absurdity of his playing a star athlete. His goofy sidekick, Bobby "Boris" Pickett of "Monster Mash" fame is rather more amusing but clearly he is closer to age thirty than twenty.
This low-budget flick was shot in December and everyone on the beach looks cold and embarrassed to be there, as well they should. You can see Christmas decorations all over town in the outdoor backgrounds. The film's saving grace is a collection of performances by authentic pop and rock bands of the era.
R26...Hysterically bad movie. I kept getting cold watching it. I would love to see it done MST3K style.
Winner and still champion: Denise Richards as nuclear physicist Christmas Jones in The World is Not Enough.
The Voice of the Night
"The entire film is an exhausting series of close-ups too."
That sums up every Streisand movie.
Katie Holmes in Batman Begins. Horrendous. She can't fucking act! Almost ruined the entire movie. Got the role as part of her deal after she married Tom Cruise.
"Tom Cruise as Lestat. What were thinking?"
Boxoffice, that's what. Cruise was still at the height of his popularity when that film was made, and he's one big reason it was a financial success.
Still, he's pretty bad in the part, and Brad Pitt is equally lousy as Louis (Pitt has no clue what to do with the part, which is admittedly very passive and underwritten in the film).
I recall being shocked at the good reviews Cruise got for this film at the time.
When INTERVIEW was first being talked about as a film, John Travolta was the first choice as Lestat. That would have been bad, though in a different way.
Kevin Kline and Ashley Judd in the Cole Porter bio. De-awful.
Whoopi Goldberg as the beautiful Myrlie Evers in "Ghosts Of Mississippi"
Melanie Griffith as a "hardened New York City homicide detective" who goes undercover in the Hasidic community.
LOL! R34, wins the jackpot. That movie was pure excrement. Melanie was pure excrement. And I'm not into scat.
R35 R34 Was that [italic]A Shiksa among Us[/italic]?
"This low-budget flick was shot in December and everyone on the beach looks cold and embarrassed to be there, as well they should."
I always thought LA was warm enough for beach weather year-round - is that not true?
R30 is wrong. Holmes had already made Batman before she hooked ep with Cruise. Part of why she was chosen was because she had a big movie coming out already and was expected to be getting lots of press for it.
Barbra was not miscast as Dolly Levi. Hello, Dolly is Datalounge's most beloved movie musical judging by the sheer number of threads devoted to the movie. Only Grease is aired more on TV, so it obviously has a huge fanbase.
If Barbra was not miscast, then there is absolutely no excuse for her performance.
"Hello, Dolly" and "Grease" are the movies aired most on TV? Maybe on the Old Movie and Theater Queen Channel.
(It's actually "A Few Good Men").
[quote]Hello, Dolly is Datalounge's most beloved movie musical judging by the sheer number of threads devoted to the movie.
By that idiotic logic, Gwyneth Paltrow is our favorite actress.
[quote]Dolly is Datalounge's most beloved movie musical judging by the sheer number of threads devoted to the movie.
No, it's discussed because people want to see a decent movie made of the show.
It did occur to me (late) that you're being sarcastic. If so, sorry. Reading it again, I can see that your post could be funny too.
Coming SOON to theaters everywhere:
Robin Williams as Dwight David Eisenhower
Liev Schreiber as LBJ
John Cusack as Richard Nixon
All in: THE BUTLER, BASED ON THE NOVEL 'PUSH' BY SAPPHIRE
Mickey Rooney as the Japanese neighbor in Breakfast at Tiffany's.
Audrey Hepburn was completely wrong, but created an attractive character. It should have been Marilyn Monroe. Or Elizabeth Taylor, playing it as a variation of her character in Butterfield 8.
Jennifer Jason Leigh in anything, rendering it instantly unwatchable.
Took this long for someone to mention the aged Kevin Spacey as the young Bobby Darin?
Christopher Reeve as the homicidal gay writer in Deathtrap.
Glenn Close in South Pacific. If I want to see skin cancer up close, I'll watch a medical drama.
[quote]Barbra was not miscast as Dolly Levi
She's have been fine if they had held off filming until 1995. If Dolly and Irene Molloy are played by actresses who are close to the same age, then at least one of them is miscast.
Not to get all Pauline Kael, BUT...
Meryl should not have played Suzanne in "Postcards from the Edge" though she WAS funny, she was ten years to old and comes off way too together for someone who just OD'd. Though I despise Melanie Griffith, I actually think Suzanne would've been a perfect role for her.
I also thought Diane Keaton wasn't right for "Baby Boom," at least the "Tiger Lady" aspect of it. Keaton exudes incompetence, which is why the slapstick sequences of her with the baby work so well. But I don't buy for a minute that she could ever be a cut-throat executive.
[quote] she was ten years to old
Oh my and oh dear
Lucille Ball wasn't actually miscast in Mame, apart from perhaps the lack of a Broadway-trained voice. She brought the requisite wit and upscale glamour the role required, but audiences were so used to seeing her play the scatterbrained Lucy character on television, that they were confused by the gloriously different creature they were seeing on the screen. No mind though, as time has been kind to her performance and the film, as it is now a celebrated Christmas tv perennial.
Bette Davis in that movie "All About ME".
I can't believe no one has mentioned this yet:
Russell Crowe as Javert (my ears are still bleeding).
Madonna as Evita
Lucille Ball as Mame
(I may be on a theatre roll, here.)
Keanu Reeves in Much Ado About Nothing.
I am on the Tom Cruise as LeStat train.
Will Ferrell in everything.
Brodrick was cast because he personified the boy-next-door.
You are saying she was wrong for All About Eve, I assume.
Perhaps. I have to suspend disbelief for that one too.
But it is worth it. What an amazing movie.
Mae West and Streisand got into an infamous brawl at a party right after "Hello, Dolly!" was released because Mae thought that Barbra was stealing her persona in the movie and she didn't like it.
OP, you may find this hard to believe but back then Broderick was widely considered to be extremely hot and no one thought it at all odd that he was playing a model.
Glenn Close in anything except when she plays a man.
Gwennie Paltrow in Shakespeare in Love she looked so disheveled in one scene it appeared like she had just serviced Heavy Whalestein!
Bette Davis miscast in "All About Eve"?
Let's see, she's playing an famous actress turning 40.
Davis: Actress, age 41 during shooting. Her performance is considered one of the greatest of her career and film history.
What drugs are you people doing?
Omar Sharif in "Doctor Zhivago"; he was about as "Russian" as Sidney Poitier. David Lean's idea of plucking back Sharif's "Egyptian" hairline didn't help.
Karen Cellini replacing Catherine Oxenberg as Amanda carrington, Robin Sachs replacing Gordon Thomson as Adam Carrington, and Emma Samms replacing Pamela Sue Martin as Fallon Carrington.
Sharif was as Russian as Tom Courtenay, Julie Christie and Geraldine Chaplin, R61.
"The more egregious performance in [TORCH SONG TRILOGY] was that by Anne Bancroft, but that's another debate."
True that. No debate!
In Just for the record... collection Barbra writes she felt too young to play Dolly. I don't think she wanted to do it, it was her contract for Funny Girl, which included other movies and HD happened to be one of them.
Kevin Spacey as a heterosexual man.
Uma Thurman in the Truth of Cats and Dogs.
Kristen Stewart in anything.
I *still* say my decision to cast Al Pacino in Revolution was groundbreaking.
The untold story of how direct descendants of Columbus won us our freedom by using their mob influence to shut down the NYC ports that were crucial to the British supply chain.
The ENTIRE cast of that made-for-TV Music Man. Not to keep picking on Broderick, but Harold Hill's defining characteristic is supposed to be charisma. And, well...
Tony Curtis in SPARTACUS.
Edward G. Robinson in THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
Kevin Costner in ROBIN HOOD.
Keanu Reeves in anything where he doesn't play a surfer.
Julia Roberts in MARY REILLY.
We can close the thread now.
Jada Pinkett-Smith as a heterosexual.
Jill Clayburgh and James Brolin in Gable and Lombard.
Today, no idea who could play Gable but Amy Poehler could pull off playing Carole Lombard.
Was Carole Lombard a butterface, too?
Russel Crowe as Javert.
Gerard Butler as Clive Owen playing Russell Crowe in "300."
[quote]Edward G. Robinson in THE TEN COMMANDMENTS.
I've always wondered what the hell he was doing in that movie!
William Holden as Hal in "Picnic." The character of Hal was 21 years old; Holden was 37. Holden was a good actor, but the dialogue, which had him saying "baby" a lot, sounded ridiculous coming from the mouth of a man pushing forty.
Holden was also too old for "Sunset Boulevard". He was supposed to be a young man getting involved with a much older woman, but if Norma Desmond was supposed to be fifty... he looked forty-five.
Didn't Montgomery Clift turn down the role? He would have been much better, much more believable.
Holden was too old for Sabrina too. Bogart was too ugly, but Holden was too old.
James Brolin wasn't a bad choice to play Gable, but Clayburgh was nothing like Carole Lombard, either in looks, size or personality.
Holden wasn't too old for Sunset Boulevard or Sabrina . . . but Gary Cooper was much too old for Love in the Afternoon, with Audrey Hepburn.
Tom Cruise is a double winner, having also been cast as Reacher, a 6'5, 240-pound, calm ex-military cop.
Faye As Joan C
I prefer laugh-out-loud funny miscasting. Sleek, suave Robert Vaughn as a teenage caveman in Roger Corman's 1965 Teenage Caveman. Or John Wayne as Genghis Khan in The Conqueror, with Susan Hayward as his Irish-Mongolian princess bride, and Agnes Moorehead as his mother.
Tom Cruise/Lestat owns this thread.
SJP in any movie she's she's not walking on all fours and eating from a food sack.
What are you suggesting, OP, that some young guy, popularly believed to be extremely cute to the point where he became, in that very era, a major heartthrob movie star (as Broderick did) couldn't possibly convince us that he had a career as a fashion model, and not even nec. a major career as a fashion model, or that, while he was highly attractive to millions (even if not to yourself), his charms would be lost on one particular man by virtue of that man being a drag queen? And that you have so much difficulty believing him in this role that you consider it the paragon of miscasting?
OP, you may want to consider taking a remedial course in logic.
R34, does this movie exist? Wait there was another thread about this on DL...
[quote]When INTERVIEW was first being talked about as a film, John Travolta was the first choice as Lestat. That would have been bad, though in a different way.
Should have been David Bowie.
Ellen DeGeneres in Mr.Wrong.
"Barbra writes she felt too young to play Dolly"
The film version is the only one I'm familiar with - I thought that Barbra was FANTASTIC.
But I realise that I'm probably reading too much imagined back-story into it - there's just something poignant about the YOUNG widow Dolly Levi becoming a yenta...
While I hardly think Matthew Broderick in TORCH SONG TRILOGY is among the worst examples of miscasting in movie history, it is true that while he was very cute and appealing in a very boyish way at that time, he never had the kind of model-type looks that the role calls for.
[quote]Uma Thurman in the Truth of Cats and Dogs.
Also in BEAUTIFUL GIRLS. The Andera character is supposed to be this drop dead gorgeous fashion model who turns the heads of every man in the small, sleepy town, but Uma is very strange looking. She almost looks like a praying mantis. Not to mention, she wasn't photographed well in this indie movie. I've always imagined Cameron Diaz in the role. At the time, she was still a knockout and had been a model, so it was more believable.
R78 & R79, Holden was also too old-looking for that Ginger Rogers flick FOREVER FEMALE. I recently watched it on Netflix. Rogers plays an aging Broadway diva who refuses to age gracefully. Holden plays a young aspiring playwright who works in the marketplace to make ends meet; still hopeful but not yet disillusioned by his lack of success. The way they kept referring to him as "the kid," the character should still be in his twenties. Holden was 35 in this but looked at least a decade older. He drank heavily, which prematurely aged him. Not only was he 15 years older than Pat Crowley (the young ingenue and eventual love interest), but he looked 25 years her senior. Ginger is the one who actually looked youthful, IMO.
The story plays like Holden is Rogers boy toy - he's 7 years younger than Rogers. Pat Crowley is 15 years younger than Holden so actually she's his girl toy more than Holden is Rogers boy toy.
Famke Jannsen as Jean Grey in the X-Men movies.
Jean Grey was in her 20's and younger than Scott Summers.
Jannsen was 8 yeard older than Marsden and 35 when they filmed X-Men.
I thought Broderick was kind of hot in the movie, but who the hell could be attracted to Harvey Firequeen?
Didn't he write the material?
Keanu Reeves in that Dracula movie. It was uncomfortable to watch.
Cody Horn in Magic Mike.
The part required someone who could act.
R104 I finally saw this the other night. I didn't like it much anyway but she totally ruined it. So wooden.
[quote]Also in BEAUTIFUL GIRLS. The Andera character is supposed to be this drop dead gorgeous fashion model who turns the heads of every man in the small, sleepy town, but Uma is very strange looking. She almost looks like a praying mantis. Not to mention, she wasn't photographed well in this indie movie. I've always imagined Cameron Diaz in the role. At the time, she was still a knockout and had been a model, so it was more believable.
Uma may be strange looking, but she *was* a model, believe it or not. I distinctly remember seeing her in the Victoria's Secret catalog in the late-80s. This was right around the time of her breakthrough role in Dangerous Liasons. The true "miscast" role in Truth About Cats & Dogs was a perfectly-normal-looking Jeanine Garofalo, who was supposed to be insecure about her looks (all she needed was a makeover). There were plenty of plainer character actresses out there, but I guess they needed to attach a "name" to the movie.
Many models don't look at all like what you think models look like when they are not on a shoot, styled and made up.
R102, that he wrote it doesn't make it any more plausible.
I guess we would all like to write a life where a bot guy breezes into it and we live happily ever after.
R101 nailed it. I spent the entire movie wondering why anyone would want to fuck him.
Meryl Streep in The Manchurian Candidate. Her only truly bad performance.
Some of these comic book movies just don't cast pretty enough women. I find it hard to believe that Maggie Gyllenhaal in "The Dark Knight" would tickle Batman's fancy or Kirsten Dunst could do the same for Spiderman. On that note, Tobey Maguire was terribly cast as Spiderman.
Seth Rogen as anyone's love interest is a joke.
Meryl Streep in Mama Mia.
Jessica Lange as Frances Farmer and Patsy Cline.
[quote]But I realise that I'm probably reading too much imagined back-story into it - there's just something poignant about the YOUNG widow Dolly Levi becoming a yenta...
Except Streisand isn't remotely believable as a young widow or as a matchmaker. She plays it like a drag queen doing a "Mae West goes matchmaking and discovers her inner Fanny Brice" routine.
[quote]there's just something poignant about the YOUNG widow Dolly Levi becoming a yenta
Yes, but there's just something tragic about her ending up with Walter Matthau. I wonder who got the pick of the litter.
[quote] Jessica Lange as Frances Farmer and Patsy Cline
You must be on crack. Jessica was FABULOUS in both roles.
Pretty much all of Hello Dolly
Michael Crawford as Barnaby
Walter Matthau as Horace
You know it's bad when Tommy Tune is the most believable character.
Winona Ryder as an android in "Alien Resurrection." Twitchy, tiny Winona Ryder in an action picture? She stuck out like a turd in a punchbowl.
Winona Ryder and Keanu Reeves as Mina and Jonathan in "Bram Stoker's Dracula." Those two as a proper British couple? What idiocy.
Olivia Newton John and Stockard Channing in "Grease." The All-American Girl Sandy was revamped into an Australian exchange student to make Newton-John more believeable in the role. Her being 29 years old didn't help. And Stockard Channing was 33; and looked 40!
Eva Longoria as a runway model
[quote]Jessica Lange as Frances Farmer and Patsy Cline.
I thought I was the only one who doesn't get into watching her talk like a little girl.
Since about five people have commented on Keanu Reeves in "F C's Dracula", I shall rebut.
Yes, he was ridiculous whenever he opened his mouth and tried to sound British, but there was more to his role. When he went to Dracula's castle, there was very little dialogue, and many scenes of vampires seducing and violating a beautiful young man. Those scenes were very sexy, and were presumably why he was hired.
Too bad he had to leave the castle, and start talking again.
R121, Oldman's hairdo was more of a distraction than Keanu's bad acting.
He was cute, but still awful, as if he might have been in that movie where he jumps through time.
In "Snow White & The Huntsman", the mirror tells evil queen Charlize Theron that there is someone in the land more beautiful than she.
Bitch, please. Not even if it was a comedy and the mirror was played by Paul Lynde.
[quote]Jessica Lange as Frances Farmer and Patsy Cline.
I thought Lange was perfect casting for Farmer. She even looked like her.
[quote]Some of these comic book movies just don't cast pretty enough women. I find it hard to believe that Maggie Gyllenhaal in "The Dark Knight" would tickle Batman's fancy or Kirsten Dunst could do the same for Spiderman.
HUGE NEWSFLASH: not everyone in the world uses physical beauty as their sole criterion in selecting a partner.
Tom Cruise as Lestat.
"I thought Lange was perfect casting for Farmer. She even looked like her."
She looked a lot like her. But she was nothing like Frances Farmer. Farmer had a very distinctive voice, very deep, almost masculine. And Lange has this whispery, lisping voice (she did in this movie, anyway) that sounded ridiculous. I didn't buy her as Farmer. She couldn't pull off Farmer's complicated, tortured personality at all.
The movie itself was mostly fiction. Sam Shepard played Harry, a reporter who falls in love with Frances before she gets famous and follows her around like a puppy dog her entire life, getting her out of institutions and being there for her whenever she needs him. The character didn't exist. I think it was the producer or director of this film that said "we didn't want to nickel and dime the audience with facts."
Patty Duke as Neely Ohara in Valley of the Dolls?
No R51, Lucy was too OLD for the part, ergo, she was miscast. Even Roz at almost 50 was pushing it, but Lucy was 62.
how can ANYONE not have mentioned this dog face who almost ruined an entire trilogy
Pauly Shore in everything. I never understood why he happened at all, I figured he had good connections
Obama as President
Total fucking embarrassment
Even worse, R132, is George W. Bush pretending he's human and not an ape subspecies.
Brad Pitt in pretty much everything.
Queen Latifah as a woman who sleeps with men.
Pretty much any TV show with characters that are supposed to be teenagers casts 20-somethings, some even pushing 30.
Daniel Pilon, John Bolger and Marj Dusay!
Jeanne Crain, in almost all of her films.
To think that Zanuck tried to force Joseph Mankiewicz to cast her as Eve Harrington in All About Eve is mind boggling.
Her amateurish performance in A Letter to Three Wives nearly ruined the movie.
Robert Wagner wrote in his autobiography that Zanuck would have a different Fox actress blow him every afternoon at 4:00 PM . . . Jeanne Crain must have been a regular.
Carrie Underwood as Maria in "The Sound Of Music"
Emma Thompson as the angel in Angels in America? Why her? Why a blithering, dowdy, British hag? I'm not a fan.
Hilary Swank in The Black Dahlia
Cameron Diaz in Gangs of New York (though her presence was kind of strangely interesting just because she IS so contemporary)
I found Jake Gyllenhaal in Love and Other Drugs and Jodie Foster in The Brave One as both just ludicrously unbelievable as heterosexuals
Stockard Channing (age 30) in Grease
"Skye" on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
Malin Akerman as Laurie Jupiter / Silk Spectre II in "Watchmen" ... she almost single-handedly ruined the movie.
r51 Lucille Ball was absolutely AND practically miscast as Mame. I can never forget for even a second that it's Lucy up there. No style, no grace, no subtlety. I believe I read she owned the property, is that why she was cast in the lead? I wonder if she ever viewed the rushes? Could she possibly have thought she was doing a good job? Love to know if anyone else was considered for the part. Rosiland Russell must've been cackling.
Carey Mulligan as Daisy Buchanan. Casting one of the Krankies to play one of F Scott Fitzgerald's classic characters was a big no no:
Josh Brolin in No Country for Old Men
Jake Gyllenhaal in Proof
Jennifer Lawrence in Silver Linings Playbook
Mark Wahlberg and Burt Reynolds in Boogie Nights
Scarlett Johansson in Avengers
Matt Damon in Behind the Candelabra
Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, George Clooney, Ben Affleck and Leonardo DiCaprio in pretty much every movie.
I thought Gary's hair was the best part of his appearance in Dracula. I agree with an earlier poster - too bad they had to leave the castle.
Hated Matthew Broderick in Torch (was like watching a teenage girl)
Mark Walhberg in most of his movies (don't mess with my super bad ass)
Stockard Channing was technically too old in Grease, but she was great in the part and it worked. That could probably be said for most of the cast and the movie as a whole.
Dracula could have been a much better movie had Kenau and Winoa (who looked great) not been blocks of wood, esp. the were supposed to be two parts of a (not needed) love triangle that was driving much of the story.