Most gay porn is so vanilla. Lousy camera angles, boring models, no sensuality. The worst is when it's 20 minutes of passionless banging and asshole closeups. Oral cumshots are extremely rare.
Straight porn actually shows of the girls, and the girls act just so much more into it.
Gay porn is fucking hot. Especially gay4pay dudes banging each other. Fuck yeah.
More competition in straight porn
I blame hiring all the Eastern European guys who, while hot, are not into it and make it so boring. They think wagging their tongues at one another is kissing and licking a buttcheek is rimming.
It's really, really dull.
There was one video somebody posted on here a few years ago of a French kid who was being digitaally penetrated. He had curly hair and he was so into it (or being such a damn good actor) that it was incredibly erotic.
Straight porn can be the same way. I watch a decent amount of it and there are lot of girls in straight porn who aren't really into the sex and just seem to be going through the motions.
The simple truth is you gotta find the guys that are good. Some people in porn can get into and have hot sex on camera, a lot don't.
And yeah the Eastern European guys tend to suck, they are hot to look at but have no passion in the sex, I avoid that shit.
Endless fucking is very, very boring to watch. It's the foreplay, undressing, and sometimes dirty talk and kissing, that make the whole experience much more watchable.
Oral sex and facial cumshots are the hottest. Endless fucking and focusing solely on close-ups of a guys hole is boring.
Jizz on the face and mouth is hot. Uncut cocks are also a hell of a lot hotter than the boring, chopped versions.
R1, you describe yourself as "non-gay" but you love gay porn? You need to stop kidding yourself, dude.
Poor R7, born without a sense of humor.
Try "Enlusted Soldiers" 1, 2, or 3 from Active Duty
Pron needs to cultivate storytelling. Not talking Tolstoy...just a little plot. I'd like to see things like: guys getting caught by mom/dad, cops 'n' robbers, something that leads to the sex.
I disagree - I hate porn stars trying to act.
The actors don't look like real men. They are the equivalent of Barbie.
I would rather watch real people do most anything. I am so turned off by professional porn. I seek out flabby asses, pot bellies and love handles.
I just like it when the two guys seem like they are into one another.
Can-Am has those "wrestling" videos that are sex with very fake wrestling thrown in. Not all are hardcore but I like the hardcore ones because the guys are good looking but not plastic, are really getting turned on and can barely wait to get through the fake wrestling bits and have sex. So much hotter than fake Eastern European porn.
You people are watching the wrong porn. The problems with porn are easy to identify. Here's the official list of things directors should avoid:
1. Unnatural bodies. The chunky, steroidy look is really a turnoff, and getting that way inevitably gives you a fat-faced look even if you aren't actually fat.
2. Orange skin
3. Tattoos, piercings, and other effemo-drag accessories.
4. Long scenes. There should be a cum shot at least every 4 minutes.
5. Stationary cameras. There should be a variety of angles. Start with perspective where we can see all actors and faces then get closer, but don't linger at any one place too long.
6. Bad cum shots. Directors need to teach the idiots how to jack off. Don't sling your dick back and forth in a wild blur so the cum is barely visible. And for facials, aim it on his fucking face/mouth, not his shoulder or the floor.
7. That inexplicable put-on effemopriss accent. Do not hire anyone who insists on talking like that.
8. Gimmicky add-ons. No leather getups, paddles, chains, duct tape, etc. Get as kinky as you want with actual sexual activity, but no silliness.
9. Foreskin - should be obvious that this is a negative to anyone but the shrieking politically obsessed types.
8. Gimmicky add-ons. No leather getups, paddles, chains, duct tape, etc. Get as kinky as you want with actual sexual activity, but no silliness.
some of us find it hot
OP, What are you fucking talking about?
"Women are so into it."- Yea. They are "into" the paycheck that helps support their families and dwindling income.
Why don't just jack in-front of a mirror because apparently, if it doesn't reflect your desires it can't be "good" porn.
Get a grip, dude. Seriously.
r15, there's always therapy, I guess.
[quote]because apparently, if it doesn't reflect your desires it can't be "good" porn.
Why would anyone watch porn that didn't reflect their desires? You sound like a loon.
My problem isn't that he has preferences and taste of what he finds hot-just that it is the ONLY standard for judging quality. Like other peoples desires and wants don't exist. He sounds self absorbed.
If he doesn't like the porn, then don't watch it.
And if he is compelled enough to complain-then maybe he should work in the industry to create the kind he wants to see.
We have enough whiners in the world, not enough people doing something about it.
R18, that won't be necessary, prissy-missy. don't you have some runny mascara to attend to?
Ignoring your bullshit comparisons to straight porn, I'd say the transgressive element has died.
Performers are no longer breaking taboos by appearing in erotica meant to be viewed by a select audience of closeted individuals.
Viewers now have the option to post pictures and videos of their own performances online so professional performances have lost their mystique.
The money aspect has also disappeared. While producers look to obtain performances audiences will pay watch, actors look to obtain still photography for use in personal ads. Per DL, these performances now serve as advertisements for private 'shows'.
r16/17/20, seriously, just shut up. You're making a fool of yourself.
I didn't say women are into it, I say women ACT like they are into it.
Let me guess, you're a failed gay porn star.
Visit Fleshbot or Banana Blog or other blog/sites that showcase hot amateur porn.
It's more interesting, more surprising; "quality" cinematography is irrelevant.
Standard cliche situations are dumb. The hot new trends are public sex, amateurs, hidden cameras, etc.
The antiquated, false top/bottom equivalent, (wrongly) stiff direction and cheesy production values of the "Porn" era are as dead as its stars.
Like with regular movies, porn that looks staged, posed and "acted" makes the viewer constantly aware that there's something unreal about it. That's why homemade porn is often hotter even though the video/lighting quality is usually very bad.
R14. You are so wrong with your #9 statement. Foreskin is huge fucking turn on. Bring on the Bel Ami and Kristen Bjorn boys. Their all-natural cocks make them even hotter.
small red inflamed looking dick heads? No. Uncut should be a niche, especially in the US.
OP straight porn is rape porn. It is made to make the watcher feel powerful. Gay porn is designed to make the watcher feel wanted. Wanted as a top, wanted as a bottom, wanted as a man.
Love gay porn. Straight porn leaves me cold without the beef curtains.
OP-- Camcorders are cheap. Get one and see if you can do better.
Gay porn is boring because 90% of the performers are gay4pay/bi with wives/girlfriends/children to support. Some guys find this a turn on, it has the opposite effect on me. I don't want to watch guys go through the motions. I prefer to watch str8 porn because I like seeing men actually enjoy themselves.
Maybe like Hollywood movies and endless rehashes of classics, the thing just literally wears itself out after time?
Porn has made gay and straight sexual voyeurism accessible to pretty much all, and maybe it's become stale for it? Maybe it's become boring for many because there are only so many things the human body and brain can do and people know what to expect? Once you've seen one, you've seen them all kinda thing?
R14, that is the dumbest list ever.
I think R14's points are all well taken.
Apparently R33 is a steroid queen with orange skin, tattoos and piercings.
Because we're all desensitized.
The more you watch, the more you get bored by it. People want variety and newness.
r7 Gay guys watch str8 porn. But they're gay? Who the hell are they trying to fool? They're not gay if they enjoy watching str8 porn.
If you like watching str8 porn, you can't be gay. Quit this marriage equality bullshit. Find a girl and settle down. You're clearly not gay if you like watching str8 porn.
Gay porn is shit b/c it's made for self-loathing fags who get off on the idea of 2 straight guys being forced to have gay sex. They don't want to see passion or chemistry they just want to see two straight/bisexual guys look like they are going to puke.
The guys in straight porn seem to enjoy themselves more.
Anyone else notice that?
why is there so much hate here? i don't get it.
[quote]they're not gay if they enjoy watching str8 porn.
Gay guys have been watching straight porn for years. I guess this is news to you. Gay men often watch straight porn because of the hot guys in it. It's pretty common.
Suck, fuck, jerk off separately.
Suck, fuck, jerk off separately.
Repeat ad nauseum.
Why do guys almost always jerk themselves off? What happened to letting your partner do it? It would be much hotter.
1. They need more diversity! Most of it is white or mixed latin guys. We need more black, asian, indian, middle eastern, native american/amerindian guys.
2. More guys who at least can PRETEND they're into each other. I despise the porns that have no kissing or hugging.
3. Cameras need to stop focusing on the dick in the ass close up for 20 minutes.
I need at least a modicum of plot, plus disrobing and foreplay. Not just suck, rim, fuck, cum like automatons. And it helps when they don't look bored!
i love a good spaghetti western
I prefer amateur porn. The men are real, natural, and are actually enjoying the sex. There's something titillating and voyeuristic about it too.
r41 Who do you think you're kidding? Gay guys don't enjoy jerking off to str8 porn. If you like watching str8 porn, you're not gay.
[quote]Gay guys don't enjoy jerking off to str8 porn. If you like watching str8 porn, you're not gay.
You couldn't be more wrong. I love straight porn. There's something incredibly hot about watching a straight man fuck a woman.
And I'm as gay as Christmas.
See what a big, diverse world human sexuality can be if you open your little mind a bit?
r48 is correct. Women in the porn is a turnoff if you're into guys.
r49 [quote]And I'm as gay as Christmas.
Yeah, you're not gay.
[quote]Yeah, you're not gay.
r52 = delusional.
If gay guys can jerk off to str8 porn and still be gay. Str8 guys can enjoy j/o to gay porn and still be str8.
[R48]I love straight porn. I don't know if I am gay or not. At 67 years old I have had about 1000 men and 20 women. I had my first dick at 9, whatever that makes me
NOT ENOUGH CUM EATING!!
r55 Agree. Love watching guys eating their own cum. LOVE IT!
[quote]If gay guys can jerk off to str8 porn and still be gay. Str8 guys can enjoy j/o to gay porn and still be str8.
That's completely illogical.
Straight porn has men and cocks. I'm sorry you're too dense and closed-minded to understand this, but watching a man fuck a pussy is fucking HOT.
Gay porn has ONLY men and cocks. No pussy. Therefore a straight man would have no interest in it.
I can't believe I actually had to explain that to you simpletons. What are you, 13?
"If you like watching str8 porn, you can't be gay. "
You must be Catholic.
Any guy who enjoys straight porn is either, straight, bisexual or wants to be a woman, end of.
A lot of gay porn is so fake. I only watch if the bottom has a great ass and pretty face or if the top is really hot.
I mostly watch hidden cam porn, 70% of it is straight because I do like looking at vagine and Im bi leaning. Not into masculine bottoms either, that really puts me to sleep. I like guys that are bitches. That limits my options. When people dont think there is a camera recording them they really let go and thats what I like, the voyeuristic part.
I like to see guys make out. I mean make out, not bat tongues around, but KISS. That to me is the greatest turn-on. I find so little of that. Occasionally I find clips of a guy kissing and jack'n his "buddy" off and that is my definition of great porn.
[quote]Most gay porn is so vanilla.
Because most gay men prefer vanilla.
Like some others, I like watching some straight porn. Hot guys, who enjoy kissing...not enough kissing in lots of gay porn. Plus there needs to be some gay parody porn. Ever seen some of the straight stuff...pretty silly, but kinda fun.
I've just never gotten the gay4pay thing, I want to watch two guys who are really into each other have sex not some guy who needs a pill or an injection to get hard who looks bored and/or uncomfortable through the whole thing. Is there a list somewhere of guys who do gay porn who identify as straight so I can avoid their videos?
"I'm not like other gay people" is a mindset among many gay people. Many gay people live life under the impression that they somehow will be looked at differently from heterosexuals compared to other gay people. Their focus is on what heterosexuals think, therefore they want to get away from anything typically gay. For some two men having sex is too far, it's too gay.
There is a problem with heterosexual and heterosexual-pretending gay porn stars ruining videos. I love seeing men kiss. There is a lack of passionate kissing in gay porn. R69 There is a lack of kissing in straight porn. You're more likely to see a guy put his hand around a woman's throat than kiss her.
OP is nuts. The women in straight porn are always fake screaming. It gets annoying. Maybe you think gay porn is boring because it is what you are used to? Straight porn/sex is a taboo/strange thing.
[quote]Most gay porn is so vanilla? Lousy camera angles, boring models, no sensuality. The worst is when it's 20 minutes of passionless banging and asshole closeups.
It's because there is no artistic value to much of what turns you off. If there was, there would be an art to the productions. There would be story. The porn would be provocative and exciting. And it would get you off.
[quote]Straight porn/sex is a taboo/strange thing.
I always loved the [italic]Taboo[/italic] straight-porn films. (Some more than others.) Just nasty -- in the mind -- to have consensual and blissful incest sex.
I haven't seen anything in gay porn, and it doesn't have to be twin brothers (like the Peters), which does a good job with the shameful material. That art work which told the story about a father and son getting to know each other came close.
Why do straight male porn stars usually enjoy sex more than gay porn stars?
I wonder if drugs are a big issue in straight porn like they say it is in gay porn?
Drugs are an issue everywhere.
It is hard to know r70 because a lot of gay porn studios try to get their guys to say they are straight. Basically if it looks they are really into it...they probably are. You can't have hot sex you clearly enjoyed on camera with another guy and then tell me you are straight, if so the concept of being straight has no meaning. Part of the issue is a lot of those guys also lie to themselves.
This is the hottest thing on tumblr right now.
Anyone know where this came from?
Hot Hot Hot!
I have never understood the appeal of porn. It seems fairly ridiculous to me. The first time I saw it, when a friend showed me videos his parents had, it just seemed ludicrous and funny. I laughed. There was nothing faintly sexy about it. To this day, I just don't get it.
Because it is not real. My sex partners don't look like that nor do I want them to. I dislike porn so much I prefer the most ordinary of people having sex. If a guy has a pudge or titties or something physical that makes him less than perfect can make be hot.
Interesting question, OP. Thankfully, however, for you, there are thousands upon thousands of gay porn videos to choose from and I'm sure you can find a few things that get you hard and get you off.
Which brings up the question: is porn like a nuclear arsenal? How much porn does the world need?
Porn generally has gotten so boring. Perhaps we have seen too much of it? I was moving and found and old stash of porn, ie. some Matt Sterling classics, some old Jon Dough straight films, etc. They were fun to watch but they were not a turn on any more.
My biggest pet peeve in porn is that oral sex is reduced to just being foreplay. Blow jobs are an art. Getting a guy off with a mouth, watching his face, watching the cocksucker enjoy the intensity of it all! That's magic.
A few slurps, put on the rubber, close-ups of a cock in and out of a butt....that's just a big old snore.
I guess chubby people like watching other chubby people have sex?
Porns should be done like soap opras. Hard core but a believable story line, maybe romance.
Little minds don't need a lot of variety and stimulation.
Just a side note:
Believe it or not, a few female friends of mine are turned on and into gay porn.
About half of them are willing to pay for gay porn.
What R5 and R6 said. Also, R14, point 9.
Much prefer straight porn. These days the guys are much hotter, much more diverse in body and appearance, the dicks seem to always be huge, the sex has a certain abandon that gay porn doesn't have, and the guys seem really into it. The guys in straight porn have definitely become hotter though.
I prefer straight porn because I hate homosexuals and the act of homosexuality of unnatural and disgusting.
Everything that is so damn casual is boring sooner or later...
I know, it sucks.
That's funny, R93. I always think those people are that way because they are young.
Less than 1% of this site is young, R95. The majority are 40 and older.
..and they are still in the closet, R95. 1/4 are closeted. If that tells you anything.
Wow. Matthew Rush has debulked!
Oral cumshots are now hot? Gosh, it was only a few days ago someone was bitching that the only thing you see in gay pron was oral cumshots and why couldn't they show some anal cumshots...
Studio porn is definitely formulaic, but that is how it is. The "stars" who go to the major porn studios (or studio, as it is quickly becoming) are of a specific type as defined by what the studio head thinks will sell. Or, orange steroided muscle queens covered in tattoos, who, due to years of drug abuse, can't get hard without "enhancements."
There's plenty of good stuff out there. Maybe if viewers would *buy* some of the good stuff, more of it would be made.
The only thing that interests me lately is live cam porn such as Cam4 and Chaturbate. When I look at a recorded porn with porn actors it just makes me bored. Sometimes the cam sites have "porn star" performers but they leave me with the same feeling as recorded porn. The best ones are the horny guys who just love being watched especially the str8 ones.There are many hot East European guys that are incredibly hot, they usually turn into cam whores and get that same blank look as typical "porn stars" though.
[quote]The only thing that interests me lately is live cam porn such as Cam4 and Chaturbate.
Unless the guy is exceptionally hot, I can't be bothered with these idiots who just sit there begging for tokens. And even when a guy is exceptional, there's no guarantee he knows how to play to an audience. Overall, Chaturbate and its ilk are more boring than any porn could be.
Not enough good directing.
Is Payton of Sean Cody gonna spear a dude?
Maybe because most gay porn is gay for pay, made for self hating closet cases?! The gay for pay porn is so mechanical and robot-like, they're just "there", they're not enjoying themselves at all. You can tell they're faking it. Gay porn made by gay men however is totally different, it's hot and the guys actually look into it too.
too much of the same thing
I just watched the last season of Torchwood.
There is a scene where JB seduces his BF for the first time. It is so erotic. I couldn't believe how it was getting me worked up.
It's like that hipster vid ....
Porn, in my opinion, should be a detailed fantasy. Porn is film. Films tell a narrative. The problem is that too much porn is just about basic sex, as though written for a teenager. Sometimes when I watch porn all I can think is wow when I was 15 or 16 this stuff would be enough to make me come. But as an adult, with experience, I know how the act can go. I am paying for the fantasy. A storyline, with expressive, believable dialogue and chemistry would make an average porn film better. If there was a seduction, an anticipation, a dance between the two men before they start doing it. Here's a thought: instead of focusing on the suck and fuck let them go by quickly. Old gay porn spent less time on the suck and fuck. Show me how to turn on a man without his cock in a mouth or ass. You get some youngster in bed and he thinks it should be like a porn movie. And that is because they are meant for quick jack offs. But why spend 20 minutes trying to get worked up over boring sex. A good porn scene should make me want to come within the first few minutes because I am so turned on by the possibilities. White, over muscled bodies with dim minds and a paycheck on the brain is like watching paint dry. I would rather see my relatives fuck- and they are one ugly bunch of people.
Drunk sex, vampire sex, drunken frat boy vampire sex, hypnosis, library sex, sex on a boat, sex at a wedding, sex at a prom, sex with a neighbor, sex with with your first love-after you have grown up, sex in a church pew, sex between country performers, sex on a bus, politicians having sex, spy sex, sex from another time period: 16th century, the Civil War, the Roaring 20's, WWll sex at Guadalcanal, sex in suburban 50's America. So many different ways to film porn and add a detail of exoticism as well. I would pay $100.00 a month if the porn I was watching were that good. At my age,49, porn is like Geritol.
Too much ass. Not enough face. And when they do show face, a lot of the guys are ugly.
Straight porn features guys who might, you know, actually exist, not items ordered from the Ken Doll factory.
lack of genuine, mainstream masculinity and athleticism. you can't cast a feminine twerking dude into the role of a fantasy football player or military dude. it doesn't work.
Do you guys know of any porn made by and for gay men? Because I'd watch that. I don't like gay for pay porn. It's so not sexy. You can tell the guys don't enjoy it at all.
Speaking just of Sean Cody -- too much smiling. What the fuck is up with that? The guys are so bland and boring, smiling at each other the whole time like they're robots. Not sexy, not to me. The fact that they're barebacking and breeding each other doesn't even matter -- still so unsexy.
Sketchy Sex is sort of hot, because there's a real life sleaziness to it that doesn't reach Treasure Island Media-levels of diseased depravity. FraternityX actors are way too annoying and immature to be sexy, although it wasn't always as bad as it is now. Michael Gilbert, are you reading this?
ChaosMen is actually the hottest of the no-frills reality porn sites. Broke Straight Boys needs hotter boys.
The best porn is indeed that which features a storyline with seduction. But those videos tend to feature condoms. Blah.
aLL the models look the same to me
[quote]All the models look the same to me.
Especially the case at BelAmi.
r14 is correct in everything. Fix all that and gay porn will be awesome.