NSA Spied on Senators Obama, McCain, Feinstein, Powell, Petraeus and a current SCOTUS justice
NSA whistle blower Russ Tice details NSA actions against politicians, cabinet members, and civil rights groups:
"The abuse is rampant and everyone is pretending that it's never happened, and it couldn't happen. ... I know [there was abuse] because I had my hands on the papers for these sorts of things: They went after high-ranking military officers; they went after members of congress — Senate and the House — especially on the intelligence committees and the armed services committees, lawyers, law firms, judges, State Department officials, part of the White House, multinational companies, financial firms, NGOs, civil rights groups ..."
The NSA is out of control and needs to be stopped.
Now the shit will hit the fan. They won't have cared about spying on everyone else, but on the elite themselves?
I call BS on this guy. Could he have access to some classified information...yes, but all of this? no way. When you get classified clearance it is specific to a certain set of information, not the whole shebang.
He said he had looked at orders to intercept those people. He hasn't said he looked at the material itself, has he?
"When it comes to respecting the Constitution and the privacy rights of Americans, for Sen. Dianne Feinstein, what's good for the goose is an outrageous violation of the gander's rights," said U.S. Senate candidate Murray Sabrin. "It's no skin off her nose when the National Security Agency does it to us, but when the Central Intelligence Agency does it to her, it's a constitutional crisis."
"Shouldn't the same rules apply to both the goose and the gander?" questioned Sabrin.
In the wake of revelations that the CIA may have rooted through U.S. Senate Intelligence Committee files as part of an ongoing congressional review of agency practices, Feinstein, a California Democrat and chair of the committee, took to the Senate floor on Tuesday to fulminate against it for violating "principles embodied in the United States Constitution."
In her speech she accused the agency of violating "Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable searches, as well as laws against domestic surveillance."
All well and good and, when the facts are revealed, perhaps entirely justified, but Ms. Feinstein sang a markedly different tune last month when she offered what one report called "a full-throated defense of the (NSA's) collection of data on billions of American phone calls."
"There's no question but what the NSA's monitoring of the private communications of law-abiding Americans is unconstitutional," said Sabrin. "And this view is shared across the political spectrum - even former Vice President Al Gore agrees with it."
"Yes, there are real threats, and we must be cognizant of them, remaining vigilant at all times. The best way to do that is to start in our own backyard by respecting and zealously guarding our constitutionally protected civil liberties, including the right to be free from unwarranted government snooping," said Sabrin.
"If the purpose of our national intelligence effort is to protect our freedom and liberty, it makes absolutely no sense to destroy them in the process. That thinking tosses the baby out with the bath water," he said. "My next door neighbor on her cell phone is no less deserving of constitutional protection than Sen. Feinstein."
Feinstein has a track record of double dealing on constitutionally protected civil liberties. For years, she's been one of the Senate's leading advocates of harsh and punitive gun-control legislation, never seeing a restriction on or the outlawing of a type of firearm she didn't like. But in the meantime, she didn't think twice about arming herself when faced with threats against herself and her family, a right she doesn't think Americans deserve as if they can't be trusted with it.
And what of New Jersey's junior Sen. Cory Booker, the politician Sabrin seeks to replace this coming Election Day - how has he weighed in on the important issue of safeguarding the constitutional liberties of Americans? Apparently, he's a complete MIA.
A search of online news sources revealed that Booker has been silent on Fourth Amendment and surveillance issues since last October's Senate Special Election campaign, where he was harshly criticized by fellow New Jersey Democrats who ran against him in the primary for being all over the lot on the issue in a seeming effort to please whomever he was speaking with at the moment.
This time around, he's completely silent.
"While issues of violations of our constitutionally protected civil liberties are being debated in the U.S. Senate and throughout the country, Cory Booker is dropping F-bombs on Twitter and talking about driving to Hawaii ," said Sabrin. "He's not even bothering to phone it in. Maybe he's afraid the NSA will listen in."
Of course they do.
It's so they can catch these folks doing something and then blackmail them with it so they don't get in the CIA's way or assist them with the power they have.
Not sure what they caught Obama doing, but they have to have something embarrassing on him for him to keep the turds like Clapper and Brennan in charge of things.
Where's all our little DL fascists tonight?
They are sucking Kerry's dick.
[quote] Now the shit will hit the fan. They won't have cared about spying on everyone else, but on the elite themselves?
Of course they will care when it might have been done to them, but they sure didnt' care when they approved the bill on allowing this in 2002
This is not new. And I'm sick of the media acting like this spying program was started by Obama
Now this is a great example of a thread that should be bumped. Perfectly timed with Feinstein's explosion this week.
That hypocritical CUNT Feinstein should be in jail.
She's made millions off the laws she has helped pass, and then supported spying Stasi-style on citizens of the USA--- and has the audacity to bitch when it turns out the NSA was also spying on her.
I hope they release every embarrassing phone call and email that CUNT has ever made, and follow it with every call and email from McCain, Kerry, Biden, Clinton, Bush, Bohner, Graham...well, every fucking thug in the congress.
Our government is evil.
How can anyone that isn't a moron justify this shit?
I LOVE that Cuntstain, I mean Feinstein, is being hoisted on her own petard!
It’s a dark and quiet night on the University’s campus, until all computers flip on and their hard drives are erased. All research files and information incriminating several companies have disappeared. Sound crazy? The way you feel reading this is how Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif., felt when the CIA hacked and deleted some of her committee’s files.
Last week, Feinstein — chairwoman of the Senate Intelligence Committee — made a speech on the Senate floor condemning the CIA and demanding an apology for the CIA hacking into Senate computers to delete incriminating evidence against the agency in regard to the Bush-era torture scandals.
Feinstein has been a staunch defender of the intelligence community for years. When Edward Snowden leaked the NSA’s PRISM program, Feinstein was quick to defend the NSA and condemn Snowden’s action.
It is only ironic how upset Feinstein is that her Fourth Amendment right to privacy was violated by the CIA, the agency she defended, yet she had no problem with, and in fact supported, the mass Fourth Amendment violations of hundreds of millions of Americans by the NSA.
Still no reply from the people who defended McCain and Feinstein?
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Please give it up.
Are you one of the people being paid by the CIA to post pro-government propaganda?
Please come out, come out wherever you are...since you are obviously in DC.
You're just another government drone.
Why aren't more people pissed about the NSA spying on every phone call, every email, every purchase?
[quote]Why aren't more people pissed about the NSA spying on every phone call, every email, every purchase?
What type of stuff are you buying that you feel a need to keep it a secret? Do you have a trunk filled with dildos?
Perhaps the non-pissed people have nothing to hide.
I'm so PROUD of you!
[quote]What type of stuff are you buying that you feel a need to keep it a secret? Do you have a trunk filled with dildos?
He's an expat living god-knows-where, so if I had to guess I'd say hundreds of gigs of kiddie porn.
So, government officials shouldn't be spied on, but "the little people" are fair game.
[quote] and a current SCOTUS justice
OMG! I hope it wasn't Mike Branson!
OK, uh, why would the NSA need to spy on other politicians? Sorry if this is a foolish question, but why would the NSA waste their time to spy on all these different people when it would provide no intelliegence on any possible terrorism?
[quote]OK, uh, why would the NSA need to spy on other politicians?
The spying is NOT to "stop the bad guys and terrorists" but to keep anyone from revealing information that would expose the evil rot at the core of our government. That is why they spy on everyone.
[quote]Sorry if this is a foolish question, but why would the NSA waste their time to spy on all these different people when it would provide no intelliegence on any possible terrorism?
Since the internet has exposed how dangerous and sick and disturbed our government is, anyone who dissents is de facto an "enemy of the state" and must be monitored lest they expose even more evil behavior by the government.