What secrets do you think the government is keeping from the public?
Granted the U.S. Government isn't supposed to tell us EVERYTHING. But what secrets do you think it's keeping from the public? I think the American government has had contact with extraterresterials and people from the future. And there are experiments on human beings that are going on as we speak.
Well, I WOULD tell you, OP, but then ... .
Something about an Area 51?
R1, Our medicine would be way more advanced if we had less restrictions on human experimentation. Other countries are far ahead of us in research.
R3, I'm fine with leaving that to the Chinese.
Proof of extraterrestrial intelligence would be the most momentous discovery in the history of mankind.
Not the kind of secret any government could keep a lid on.
It's so predictable that people think there's some malevolent alien secret that's harming us, when all you have to do is look at what horrid monstrous things PEOPLE are doing to each other:
Syria, violent gang rapes and assaults; child abuse in red states, Exxon and BP planetary destruction, massive genocide...
And you PAY $10-$15 to see a city destroyed with CGI, while ignoring how it's actually being destroyed by corruption and greed.
The JFK and RFK murders.
How they rob the poor and give to the rich.
How they'll plan to steal more land from the native americans.
The truth about the twin towers.
How to manipulate the minds of the people. Oh, forgot.,Brangelina already knows.
Possibly the moon landings. I find it suspicious that the U.S. has dropped all human moon exploration and theat we haven't been back for like 40 years. The landings happened at a very politically convenient time.
I find people of the future visiting interesting, there would probably be a ban on it.
The crack in the ocean floor, wide spread radiation due to nuclear power, manipulation of the climate for starters.
Lucifer, y'all are crazy.
R7, we went to the moon to prove we could.
But, there's nothing there, so no pressing reason to go back.
We have stations and colonies on Antarctica, R11.
assassinations and attempted assassinations.
They found God and she's pissed
Vast gold deposits have been found on the sea floors
A few manufactured plagues got loose, but were terminated
Poison-apple theory has been statistically proven and our government is due for an overhaul.
Drug use and violence in the 70s-90s were caused by exposure to lead from leaded gasoline.
Cracks in the ocean floor,R9? What`s that about?
That last one's no secret, R14. The studies on that are public, as far as I know.
I think my point is obvious. Even "barren" wastelands are of great interest to humans strategically and scientifically. So a once-conquered territory is not sufficient reason for 41 years passing since the last American moon trip. Expense etc. - that I buy (possibly).
R20, no, your point was not obvious. Studies of the Antarctic have great relevance to life on planet earth.
The dry, airless, lifeless moon, not so much, except for some striking photos of earth from its horizon.
Obama's Kenyan birth certificate.
I think the government has been complicit in covering up criminal activity such as drug and weapons smuggling and human trafficking, and at times has been involved in the actual commission of those crimes.
Hey, R23, may I introduce you to Ronald Reagan and his band of merry crooks?
I know, R24, but it didn't stop there.
The human trafficking actually bothers me more than the guns and drugs.
Regarding cracks in ocean floor:
Scientists have discovered a crack in the Earth's crust that threatens to pull North America and Europe closer together and cause the Atlantic Ocean to vanish in about 220 million years.
Researchers at the University of Lisbon have created a new map of the seafloor, off the coast of Iberia—the region of Europe that includes Portugal and Spain— and the results show the beginnings of a new subduction zone.
National Geographic reported on the new data surrounding the subduction zones, and what could happen when the tectonic plates—the large rock slabs that make up the Earth's crust—crash into one another.
The edge of the heavier plate slides, or subducts, below the lighter plate.
It then melts back into the Earth's mantle—the layer just below the crust.
The discovery of this new subduction zone, published on June 6 in the journal Geology, could signal the start of an extended cycle that fuses continents together into a single landmass—or 'supercontinent'—and closes our oceans.
This breakup and reformation of supercontinents has happened at least three times during Earth's approximately four-billion-year history.
Speaking with National Geographic, the study's first author João Duarte said that Earth's continents could 'look very much like the Pangea,' in the far future, referring to a supercontinent that existed about 200 million years ago.
[quote]We have stations and colonies on Antarctica
I dont think you understand what the word "colonies" means. We have no colonies in Antarctica.
We have an abundance of evidence we went to the moon. When you ask the tin hat gang what evidence they have it was faked, all they end up proving is how little they understand science.
That being said, I dont think there are that many secrets they keep from us because history has shown how terrible our government is at keeping secrets. Maybe a dozen people knew who was behind the Watergate break-n. Cracked wide open. Half a dozen or less knew about Iran/Contra. Cracked wide open. Only TWO people knew about Monica and Bill. You get the picture.....
Well, Washington is laid out in the shape of a pentagram, with the PentaGON right in the center. I'm sure that was designed to consider ample parking
[quote]Well, Washington is laid out in the shape of a pentagram, with the PentaGON right in the center
The Pentagon is not in Washington. Washington is not laid out in the shape of a pentagram.
Cracks in the ocean floor aren't secret, are they? I thought information on them has been published all along.
At any rate, that one isn't a U.S. government secret; it's international.
I'm sure some government agencies are aware of the deleterious effects of chemically polluted food being grown in the U.S.
That's no secret, R31, and it hasn't been secret for years and years.
Are you just listing things you don't like, rather than things that are actually secrets?
The plane crashing into the Pentagon. When will the real story be told?
It's enough of a secret that we've had DL threads where posters have sworn our food is healthy and challenged those who say it isn't.
What R6 said!
R34, the fact that there are many, many stupid people in this world is hardly a secret either.
You girls must toughen up or you'll never last.
Low frequency audio pulse signals, under TV broadcasts, are proactively known and used to subdue Americans.
Any effects of the crack in the ocean floor that will cause continents to move back together will be a process that takes place over many, many millions of years. The human species will be long gone by the time any material effect will be noticeable, so no need for anyone to worry about that.
The worlds fresh water supply is about to crash - leading to many wars, some will be nuclear.
This is the real reason why the pentagon is suiting up, not terrorism.
We must thank the Masons for designing DC's layout.
Kennedy orchestrated his own suicide.
More like, the handful of uber rich fuck turds are going to make sure the water supply is compromised to ensure they get even richer! They've worked hard to purchase politicians and the military to play the cards for them.
And in the end, they die like the rest of us, for what? Money. Sad.
That all of "the blacks" love to lute!
Projections on impending epidemics - with no possibility of treatment.
The likelihood of an EMP that will reduce America to the Stone Age - numerous plans by nations and terrorists, with some indications of a trans-national conspiracy.
GHW Bush's role in every dirty deed over the last 55 years.
The collection and retaining of materials from extraterrestrial crashes (and how they have assisted in technology development); communications with these outsiders, including presidential meetings; treaty-type "understandings" of what they can do and what we will tolerate (because we have no choice).
Marilyn, JFK, RFK, MLK, Malcolm X.
Actual global warming data and consequences.
Reagan's long senility.
The fact that Cermak was the target, not FDR (there's an old one).
NO, THERE WAS NO AMERICAN COLLUSION IN 9/11.
How fragile things are and all of their contingency plans for what happens when society breaks down.
[quote]NO, THERE WAS NO AMERICAN COLLUSION IN 9/11.
Here is an excellent description of the official explanation of the "conspiracy theory" that allegedly occurred on 9/11.
Obama's DOJ, led by Holder, facilitated organized protests and rallies against George Zimmerman following the death of Trayvon Martin BEFORE Zimmerman was brought up on charges.
Cheney and W were behind 9/11.
Obama and Reid, Trojan horses put in place by GOP.
There is a war to enslave all able bodied poor people and kill or those too sick to be slaves, not shoot them or anything, just take everything away so they die quickly.
Soylent Green is people
Two Secretive Israeli Companies Reportedly Bugged The US Telecommunications Grid For The NSA.
That there's a huge financial meltdown coming. That the wealthy see it coming, have decided to take advantage of it, and have been busy removing wealth from the system and changing their investments so that they and they alone will in fact profit if and when things go down instead of up.
On a related note, they're hiding just how in bed the politicians are with the ultra rich. The rich have capital to invest and politicians have the knowledge of what events are coming down the pipeline, and to an extent can shape the outcome. Put those two together and the people involved prosper... at the public's expense, of course.
Santa Claus was captured two years ago by special forces and is now in Gitmo being waterboarded. The Easter Bunny immediately went into hiding and is still being tracked by the NSA.
That John Boehner is actually a Slitheen.
The Almiqui are only an intermediary set of overlords. They have overlords!
The hum: The Taos Hum, The Bristol Hum, the hum in Australia, etc. etc. Some areas of the US have a humming noise that sounds like an engine running, or a train approaching that never arrives, etc. It's best heard at night. I think we are being bombarded by microwaves or other waves used to transmit cell phone calls/data, satellite data, etc. It's noise pollution that has been affecting more and more people as the electronics expand. I think the government knows full well what it is and I think they are ignoring the effects on humans.
R7, we went to the moon at the time to beat the Russians, who were about to get there ahead of us. Kennedy funded NASA as much as they needed to do the task. In today's dollars, the NASA funding back then was about 4x what it is now.
Hillary is a dyke
[quote]How fragile things are and all of their contingency plans for what happens when society breaks down.
That was pretty evident during Katrina.
Probably that American AIrlines crash into Long Island sound right after 9/11
Just how much radiation is falling on us, especially the west coast, from Japan.
And on a related note, just how much radiation we're still absorbing from the nuclear tests in the 40's and 50's, how it's still entering our food supply via radioactive particles in the ground, and how much of the cancer we have today is because of it.
The 3,000-pound elephant in the living room that no one talks about, especially the Main Stream Media: that Barack Obama was very well known in the Chicago gay community years ago, that he was a frequent patron at the biggest gay bath in Chicago (SteamWorks?), the he particularly likes white guys ... like Rahm Emanuel? That his marriage was arranged years ago by that infamous pastor of a hate-filled racist Chicago church (if one could CALL it a church, that is), and that Michele was well aware then as she is now that Barack is gay (OK, OK ... let's call it "bi") and that she agreed years ago to play the beard for him. All this -- and much more -- will finally be made known after he leaves office and journalists & authors will then have greater leeway in letting the truth about Barack, Michele, Rahm, et al, be known. 'Nuf said.
I remember that crash. It was quickly dropped by the media.
Why keep secrets when you can hide stuff in plain sight?
Stem cells have been shown to cure blindness, heart disease, and diabetic foot ulcers, yet the FDA is dragging its feet.
"Religious" opposition is bogus. I bet the preachers were bought off by Big Pharma, which stands to lose a fortune once the truth gets out. They're doing everything they can to slow it down, including short attacks on the stem stocks.
It's disgraceful actually.
r66 Why am I flashing on the films "Coma" and "The Hospital"?
Well, I guess Datalounge is as good a place as any to reveal what I know about our government - they have massive programs in place to zap anyone instantly who dares to reveal the
The US government is hiding data that the average person is neither bright nor wise enough to vote on any issue. By hiding the reality of a government by the stupid for the stupid, the whole mirage is kept going.
H. L. Mencken tried to expose this fact years ago, but no one was smart enough to understand what he was saying.
Homos CAUSE AIDS.
AIDS was first given by having the homosex with apes and monkeys
Homos ARE mentally ill
I think they know when we're going to run out of arable land and potable water. We are going to have massive food shortages and a lack of drinking water much sooner than expected.
That's why there's so much pubic discussion about all these new planets they're discovering out here. They may have resources we need, or maybe they can sustain life, so they will send "pioneers" to them like they did in Aliens.
The desalinization of the ocean is causing a warming of ocean waters, and the seepage of salt water into fresh water is also happening. This cross contamination is going to kill us. Kill our oceans first. We are already seeing droughts and a lower level in our water tables and fresh water supply. Melting icebergs, etc.
All the chickens are coming home to roost. If you had any sense, you'd move to Canada. Go north to the wilderness and find a clear lake. Pitch a tent, kill some moose and a few bears, and learn how to eat nuts & berries. That's all folks.
The other big secret they're keeping, is they probably know irrefutably that some huge asteroid is definitely going to hit us and it will be an ELE: an Extinction Level Event. I saw that movie. They are preparing us.
That's why we have all these outer space movies like Prometheus and Gravity. I bet Ron Howard is a fucking Alien. Just look at his head and his face.
R74, there a lot of things coming out recently about Fukushima that imply that soon the entire Pacific ocean will be contaminated and nobody in their right mind will eat food from it. That alone will drive up the prices of food so high that there will be food shortages, especially among Asians that depend on the ocean for their food supply.
Recently, there have been some news articles from Japan stating that fishermen from the area want to sell fish again, and if the fish "passes" they'll be able to sell fish from right around the plant. The U.S., South Korea and several other countries have already banned fish from 7-14 different prefectures in Japan, depending on the country. The U.S. banned it outright, testing or not. That's got to be a financial hole in their economy.
wrong tin hat, dude.
Then there's the story of the person who was trying to get any kind of estimate from Japan about how many people seem to be suffering from chronic nosebleeds (an early symptom of radiation sickness). The government has suppressed all info about this. Supposedly 5,000 Japanese tweeted they or their kids had nosebleeds.
People looking for Martians, comets or whatever, don't. Worry about large corporations or governments suppressing news about this problem, which can't be fixed with the scientific knowledge we have today, according to many experts. Many experts believe Tokyo is already heavily contaminated, or will be soon, and the government doesn't want to disclose it because what would they do with all the people?
That Injin Joe is ticklish.
Oh, I agree that there's been massive suppression of news from Japan about radiation contamination. Problem with that is radiation contamination doesn't just sit in one place, it spreads. I think our government knows this planet is dying a lot faster than anyone ever imagined, and that's why there's so much interest in space exploration right now.
There's something going on at the Denver Airport. Either its the new Area 51, or more likely, it's the site they're moving the government to in a full-blown emergency situation.
Either way, you don't build a fucking runway long enough to land the space shuttle and then cover it with 6 inches of dirt, because "oops" they built it in the wrong place. And the tunnels to nowhere, so many huge tunnels, so much underground construction, and none of it ever explained. And let's not even talk about why they built it so far out of Denver that it's halfway to Nebraska.
Watching the relatively uninvolving "Gravity", I felt I was watching an industrial film instructing the hoardes in the nuances of small craft space travel, perhaps the beginning of entrainment to take future generations off-planet, probably to work as expendable, menial military staff.
R79, you just hit a nerve, man. Thanks for posting that. See? This is real shit. Be careful out there.
R79, I think those might be the Noah's Ark tunnels, like in that movie Deep Impact for when the meteor or the asteroid hits and they are saving people by lottery.
R77 that was laugh out loud funny. Whew.
The murals at the Denver Airport are very disturbing. What is also disturbing is the public, exhibitionistic aspect. Why advertise?
Our planet has been so badly beaten that even if we were to make massive changes right this moment it would take hundreds of thousands of years to fully recover.We are headed the way of the Mayans, Easter Island... which is what happens when humans place themselves above and superior to their environment. There are too many people on the planet with too few resources combined with the increasing effects of global warming that would make for a hostile environment.It's going to be hell. But none of this is a secret.
[quote] On a related note, they're hiding just how in bed the politicians are with the ultra rich. The rich have capital to invest and politicians have the knowledge of what events are coming down the pipeline, and to an extent can shape the outcome. Put those two together and the people involved prosper... at the public's expense, of course.
I agree with this. I think a lot of what we see and hear is just for show. I think that even if Obama and the Democrats win all of these fights that the future of the US is going to look a lot like parts of India, where people are dying in the streets from preventable disease and the mega rich are living in guarded compounds.
Most media and entertainers are "in line" with social programming designed by "our masters", to control and weaken the human mind and its potential.
I don't think most people in government in either party give two shits about abortion or gay marriage or most of the issues that they talk about, I think they just play along to keep people's attention away from real issues.
I think we're closer to a civil war then we've ever been in the States, but no one is mentioning that.
And I think the "North" would win, again.
Any new civil war between the North and the South would go uncontested. No one in the North would fight to keep the South this time.
1. AIDS was created to decimate populations that the elite don't like like gays, the continent of Africa and poor people. They have the cure but won't release it.
2. Cancer as a cottage industry. They keep crying for more money for research to keep their salaries coming. As in AIDS they create cancer and they have the cure as well.
That the earth is hollow, and more advanced species live within it, notably the reptilians.
The Nazis discovered the entrance in Antarctica. They had a base under the ice, there was an underwater entrance subs used to get there. They designated the area as a colony called New Swabia.
After the war, Admiral Byrd led a task force to try to claim the base, but was repelled by a superior force from inside the hollow earth. Afterwards, he suggested we never try to take the base again, and we never did.
Just Google New Swabia and look around a bit.
[quote] They designated the area as a colony called New Swabia.
Yes , and it's right next to a colony of young lesbians called New Labia
We are ALL controlled by psychotronic super-computers operated by the various U.S. govt. agencies. It actually operates on a global scale for the New World Order. We are separated by race and ethnicity. They control every thought in our heads including our urges, dreams, ambitions, addictions, relationships with other people, and the little voices we hear, etc. The zillions of radar dishes and celltowers weren't put in place to faciltate you saying "How was your day, sweetie?" to your friend or significant other. The various govt. agencies like the Dept. of Health and Human Services employ scores of people who do nothing but monitor your private thoughts and habits through Alice chatterboxes and the microwave hearing effect. They have super-computer that continuously parse and manipulate the low-frequency signals emanating from celltowers via smartphones. Wake up, people. The powers-that-be are about to depopulate this world to reduce consumption. The FEMA concentration camps are right around the corner.
That the food supply is making the population sick and fat. Yet they still give enormous subsidies for the factory farms to keep the price of the modified corn and soy that is in almost everything so cheap.
There are almost no independent farmers left so the average citizen, especially the poor, can't avoid the frakenfood.
The biggest food companies had a meeting about how they were concerned they would be the next tobacco industry, caught withholding how they knew their ingredients are poisoning the population and some suggested voluntarily taking out the most poisonous stuff. The majority said fuck it, people like how it tastes.
The FDA and congress is bought and paid for just the same as with big pharma.
How bloated government is. There are so many, many ways that the budget can be reduced and hopefully the deficit can be gotten under control.
I food is no longer food. There are several good documentaries on the subject. It is difficult to find untainted real food items and so expensive that it's prohibitive for most people.
If you were able to go to an elementary school sometime and give the kids a grape to eat, or a strawberry, many would say 'that isn't what grape tastes like' because they've grown up tasting grape Kool Aid and grape soda and stuff but have never eaten an actual grape before.
Republicans run a child prostitution ring out of Oklahoma. If you're high enough in the party, you are more or less forced to participate. They do that to ensure your loyalty, so they can blackmail you.
There's something nasty in the woodshed.
You poor dopes looking for complications, stories, plots.
Mixed of course with the scribbling (symptomatic) schizophrenics.
If we know about it, or talk about it, then it isn't secret. Secrets are things we don't know. So we don't know what we don't know.
[quote]There are known knowns; there are things we know that we know.
There are known unknowns; that is to say, there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns – there are things we do not know we don't know.
More than two, r27. The WH Secret Service knew; Linda Tripp knew; Clinton's secretary Betty Currie knew; Monica's mother probably knew.
That's for starters.
I'd love to know why the federal government has for decades, turned a blind eye to entities that work in collusion with foreign nations to the detriment of this country. I am talking about groups like the Chamber of Commerce. They are some really vile, nasty people.
Much of the "food" sold in this country, and particularly what is marketed to the poor who have limited healthcare, is devoid of nutritional value. Too many kids are conditioned to crave high fat, high sugar, overly processed "garbage."
Area 51 is in reality a super secret testing field for high tech weapons, marketed as a source of alien visitor myths.
Since the Cheech&Chong movies documenting it, there have been an increasingly elaborate series of tunnels connecting various points in Mexico with private businesses in border states of the USA.
Today trucks can easily be driven through the paved tunnels. Demands to build a barrier fence only increases the fees the coyotes charge to transport illegal workers. Girls are regularly gang raped and then forced into prostitution to repay fees for passage. Those that resist are left to die.
They know that at the rate we are consuming natural resources and polluting the planet, within a few generations life will be miserable.
I'm a tad freaked out by R79's post and I gave up weed years ago.
R14, what is the poison apple theory?
OK. I'll play. I think the "government" knows how fast the environment is deteriorating, and we have passed the point of no return. The Earth is dying at a faster rate than they projected. But we can delay it a little if we take certain measures. It won't do much but we have to try.
We are going to run out of food and arable land to grow it. We are going to run out of fresh potable water. They know this. They can very likely forecast when these conditions will assert themselves, but they won't tell us. it will begin in certain areas of the planet before others, but soon it will be widespread.
Right now they are looking for resources on other planets. Not necessarily for us to live there, but for us to take things we need from them. So far, no luck finding water.
I agree with that, R113, except they are not doing anything to delay it. Quite the contrary.
he oceans are so bad right now that there are fewer and fewer species of fish that are edible.
HAARP (High Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) is a little-known, yet critically important U.S. military defense program which has generated quite a bit of controversy over the years in certain circles. Though denied by HAARP officials, some respected researchers allege that secret electromagnetic warfare capabilities of HAARP are designed to forward the US military’s stated goal of achieving full-spectrum dominance by the year 2020. Others go so far as to claim that HAARP can and has been used for weather modification, to cause earthquakes and tsunamis, to disrupt global communications systems, and more.
Major aspects of the program are kept secret for alleged reasons of “national security.” Yet there is no doubt that HAARP and electromagnetic weapons capable of being used in warfare do exist. According to the official HAARP website, “HAARP is a scientific endeavor aimed at studying the properties and behavior of the ionosphere, with particular emphasis on being able to understand and use it to enhance communications and surveillance systems for both civilian and defense purposes.” The ionosphere is the delicate upper layer of our atmosphere which ranges from about 30 miles (50 km) to 600 miles (1,000 km) above the surface of the Earth.
The HAARP website acknowledges that experiments are conducted which use electromagnetic frequencies to fire pulsed, directed energy beams in order to “temporarily excite a limited area of the ionosphere.” Some scientists state that purposefully disturbing this sensitive layer could have major and even disastrous consequences. Concerned HAARP researchers like Dr. Michel Chossudovsky of the University of Ottawa and Alaska’s Dr. Nick Begich (son of a US Congressman) present evidence suggesting that these disturbances can even cause tsunamis and earthquakes.
Supposedly there are three HAARP facilities. One in Alaska, which the US government claims has been shut down, one in Puerto Rico that they don't comment on and one somewhere in Russia.
Some speculate that the Haiti and Chilean earthquakes were caused by HAARP. The Chilean earthquake was planned and executed by the US government, but the Haiti quake was an "accident". Recent quakes and tsunamis in Japan, China and the far east may also be the result of HAARP.
Oh, that was me, R112. Poison Apple theory was really big in Science Fiction of the 60s-70s.
A poisoned apple is used as an analogy for an ill society. It buds, then grows, then appears to ripen, and then begins to rot from within. When it falls, it poisons the tree as it rots. A new tree cannot grow.
When we define this country as an isolated society, we follow the rules of the poison apple theory. There are no exterior forces to help us identify and correct grave errors. There is only "might makes right".
When neocons began throwing around the phrase "Empire Building", they implied the USA was an empire instead of a country.
Since the Spanish-American War we've had idiots pushing for a 19th century style of empire. It's 2013. The US is not an empire; we're a drunken fratboy.
This nation can survive, but the boom/bust cycle of empires is getting shorter and shorter.
This thread is cool.
Five words: DARPA...
That Wilhelm Reich was really on to something - which is why they made sure he died in jail under (govt-controlled) FDA charges.
AIDS was created and released intentionally.
A global economic collapse is coming shortly.
Proof of God's existence (or lack thereof).
Let's get back to the Denver Airport (R79) for a minute.
In 2007 13 airplanes at DIA experienced cracked windshields at approx. the same time. The planes were either sitting at gates or in the process of taking off or landing.
[quote]"This is not only unusual, I know of no precedent for anything like this where multiple windshields have been cracked, simply by being in a particular place at a particular time," said John Nance, a pilot and aviation consultant for ABC News.
Now the official story was that it was due to the weather at the airport. There were high winds and it was cold. OK, but planes fly at 400mph at altitudes where the outside temps exceed -50F. They can handle that, but we're supposed to believe that they couldn't handle a snowstorm on the ground? 13 at one time?
Explain that one.
Then there are the bizarre Apocalyptic murals, r122. WTH?
And seven stories underground, for an AIRPORT?
I think lack of clean water will be our end.
That we're all gonna die, OP!! The government knows. we'll die at different times for different reasons, but dead we will be.
I don't think our government is smart enough to keep a secret. Not for very long anyways.
R68 stem cells have been shown to be very beneficial in MS too. There's a clinic in Germany where you can have your immune system destroyed by chemotherapy and then an infusion of stem cells to reboot it from scratch, thus eliminating the over active immune response that is demyelinating the nerves. If I had a spare $500,000 I'd go for it myself.
What about small scale cover-ups?
I once came across a subway entrance in NYC that was closed off with about a million cops everywhere, and several ambulances sitting by the entrance. I watched the paper and the TV for something, anything, on what I saw and there was never a word. Next day it was open and you couldn't see where anything happened.
A friend in the military once told me that whenever you read about a "training accident" or helicopter crash that kills troops, especially if they're special forces, just figure that a covert mission went wrong somewhere where we wen't supposed to be.
Anyone else seen something that should have made the news but didn't?
Oh, they know all about what happened to David Sedaris' dead sister. They know.
Lack of air will get us before lack of water.
They say the oxygen in the atmosphere has already degraded a measurable percent.
Jayzus, R108 made me LOL @ "Chamber of Commerce"
"They" tell Kanye et al what to say to cause division. Jimi Hendrix he isn't.
That's true R132. Remember when Dick Grasso was prez of the NYSE and went to Colombia to court the narcotrafficantes?
Here's the link. Grasso met with FARC to "acquaint them with the market." (NYSE)
Devious government agencies successfully conspired to block my charisma...completely and globally. Like blotting out the sun, I know, but it's some serious black ops shit.
UFOs/Aliens are real and it's not so much that they are covering-up that they are extraterrestrial, it's because they are a machine-based intelligence which is deemed so shocking that they think the public can't handle it. For example, there might be a backlash against modern technology if people feared that ultra advanced extraterrestrial A.I. were flying in our atmosphere and even abducting people.
That Obama is an incompetent, ignorant piece of shit.
R139... just... no. No.
He's probably the most intelligent, sane, reasonable, rational President we've had in your lifetime.
[quote]Low frequency audio pulse signals, under TV broadcasts, are proactively known and used to subdue Americans.
What's the frequency, Kenneth?
A vast racist conspiracy against Obama
R142, that's no secret. It's blatantly out in the open.
R143, No, it's not real. The race card is thrown by people who can't stand any criticism. You don't like Obamacare? -It's because you are racist!
No, R144, it's quite real, quite obvious, quite blatant... and pretty much only racists (who are so steeped in racism that they can't even see it, like fish being oblivious to water) deny it.
The sarcasm flew right over R143's head.
Whoa R138 I was just coming here to post something similar. FWIW a lot of the lead tech companies are engaging in some ballsy-ass projects to build communication bridges with alien life, and they have NO idea what the fuck they're getting into.
Go on, R147. What bridges?
R147, It makes no difference because the UFOs/Aliens that are visiting the planet are a machine-based intelligence. What people "grays" are cyborgs. UFO witnesses have commented on how the craft move and react as if they were alive and rightfully so. The craft itself is intelligent. That's the big secret that is considered even more controversial than just extraterrestrials. The knowledge that an advanced extraterrestrial A.I. is interacting with our planet is deemed so potentially damaging to the petty and organic human mind that it is feared this knowledge could destroy society. Imagine panics where people revolt against all forms of modern technology out of fear. It would be horrible.
I'm an alien abductee. I'm also immortal, a gift from them. When I die I will simply wake up in a cybernetic body aboard one of the crafts. It is my duty to try to help humanity embrace technology and to embrace the concept of truly intelligent machines. Together, man and machine can create a fantastic future for both of our benefit.
Just for the record, since the visitors are machines they pretty much have been intercepting all of our communication via technology, phone, email, Internet, they tap it and can know everything. They would be reading my reply to you as well.
In all seriousness, I think there are higher ups that realize that our civilization is nearing an end. It's part of why the 1% are trying to syphon up all the wealth right now, because they think they can built fortresses to hide in once it all goes to crap, and they can still live in luxury while 99% of the world burns and dies and is cast back to the stone age.
Someone once told me that the actual number of suicide-by-train jumpers is underreported.
Also, I agree that there are many other stories that the media agrees to keep under wraps.
R138/R149, are the aliens hot? What does it look like when they "do it?"
All of the details regarding 9/11 - pre and post event
Obama's original birth certificate from 1961
Any evidence of E.T. contact with earth
I did read a wild account from a woman near her death about being used to communicate with aliens from a crashed UFO. Her story had a strange authenticity about it. The aliens said the bodies were electrically controlled, but their sentience could be trapped inside. The aliens called themselves "Is/Be"'s because they exist, yet are infinite. The were from very, very far away.
R152, they are machine-based, ultra-advanced A.I.s. They don't have sexes. However, they are getting there. They are creating beings from taking sperm and eggs from humans. The "grays" are one of these types of creations. However, they are refining the process to create beings that look completely human but possess the mental abilities of the machines. It's crazy, I know but it's going to be a lot like the new revise, Battlestar Galactica series where the cylons looked human. These human-models are very much interested in sex and especially love, basically everything connected to "being human". They are right now beginning to blend into society.
Together we are working to build a brighter future for everyone, human and machine. I myself was given immortality by them. When I die I will simply wake up in a cybernetic body aboard one of the craft. However, the body doesn't matter, only the mind is important. So it's likely I probably will be put inside one of the grays. However, I could be used in a craft, or even be put in a cybernetic body that looks remarkably human. I simply don't know what they will do with me. They might just stick me a in virtual reality. It's hard to tell. All I know is that they gave me immortality and in return I am to help people adapt to the new reality. As machines grow more and more intelligent a certain percentage of humanity will become frightened and rebel and may start a war. The machines have gone this route several times now in the past. They are hoping this time things will be different and they are taking it very slow so humans can mentally adapt.
No joke, together man and machine can create a utopia, a paradise on earth. Just that humans have the tendency to fuck it up royally.
[R155] "No joke, together man and machine can create a utopia, a paradise on earth".
Dear Rousseau. Leviathan. QED.
R156, Not following you. Humans need not fear a Terminator-style war. Instead, if there is a war it will be fought by humans who fear machines and technology and those who embrace technology.
That's why this will all go down as slow as possible, so that humanity has time to mentally adapt. If we move to fast it will all go to shit.
Imagine a world without money, without government, without religion, without celebrities, without leaders, a world in which every human is allowed the ability to achieve their full potential minus the cat and mouse chase of today's society. Imagine a world where there is no more lies. You see, humans love lies. They drape them over their bodies like the haute coutre. In the future there won't be lies. Imagine knowing all the secrets of everyone alive. Imagine how that will be when we all stand mentally naked in front of each other. All of our dark fantasies and secrets exposed for all to hear. There will be no shame for all share in those same desires. In a world where communication is mind-to-mind there will not be room left for lies.
Imagine immortality, being able to upload your mind into a machine. You cold exist in a virtual world. You could download into another body. We would all be gods. No mote death. No more hunger. No more going without. No more lies. No more wars. All of humanity will become divine.
Unfortunately a small percentage of humanity will rebel. They will wish to remain human. Their wish shall be respected and they will be given a new home where they can start human civilization over again. However, they will not reap the benefits of this technology. They will not be immortal. They will be mortal and will sicken and die. That is the consequences of their choice. However, many of us would watch over them, protect them even. Just to make sure they aren't wiped out.
The world I describe is right around the corner. We just have to move at a snail's pace so that humans can adapt to it. We do not want war with humans. We want to work together to build a fantastic society where love and peace and goodness thrives.
Again, the only thing that can stop this is humanities capacity to fuck shit up royally. One human would gladly spoil immortality for everyone else. That is human nature, one human lording it over everyone else.
I just hope it's different this time.
An "event" on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 will have a negative effect on the United States.
R158, Because Newtown didn't get the gun ban they aimed for? They gonna try again?
[R155] And I don't get you. QED. Flight patterns, lights, feel dizzy.
R157, what kind of music do you listen to? Just curious.
Yes R62, that flight that crashed into the Atlantic after 9-11 was clearly another suicide-mass murder by a terrorist-pilot. I don't know how that got hushed-up.
Benghazi was a secret CIA post, and as a result, the President can't talk about it, and John McCain, Lyndsey Graham and other Regressives know that, so they know they can keep up the related histrionics, without a rebuttal.
The Snowden revelation about NSA spying was revealed in a 60 Minutes segment around 2003 or so, which I saw myself. It's not news. I don't know why this fact isn't mentioned on the news now.
R199, what's wrong with DARPA? I had a couple of DARPA project proposals accepted in the 1980s, and I'm not some evil genius bent on world domination.
R37 says, [quote] Low frequency audio pulse signals, under TV broadcasts, are proactively known and used to subdue Americans.
Well they need to turn up the frequency some, because Americans are anything but subdued. Especially in the homes of the TEA Partyers.
JFK was killed by illegal aliens from outer space.
They're hiding the massive radiation exposure we ALL have been getting and STILL are receiving from Fukushima. My thyroid stimulating hormone levels have been off my doctor's radar screen and she keeps increasing my synthroid medication. Our cancer rates will be at an all time high within the next year or two as they have increased dramatically for the past 2 1/2 years since Fukushima went off. The cesium is already in our food supply, from fish to dairy products, including our water. This country and planet are already doomed.
Every President has worked for the CIA before being elected.
There is no such thing as two Parties. It's one big party run by the big $. The Parties know that people like to think of politics as a football game and need to take sides. They know people are stupid enough to vote instead of thinking / working with the people.
The Boston Marathon Bombing case should be followed by everyone. Major CIA/ FBI shitstorm coming, showing that this surveillance society is not to stop terrorism.
The government can control the weather.
The militarization of the police is being controlled by the DHS.
I know first hand the government is keeping a print of the full 184 minute roadshow version of "A Star is Born" from EVER being shown. It's really shocking in this day and age.
1) The locations of undetonated radioactive weapons on the ocean floor, and the vulnerability of those locations
2) Just how much plutonium 238, 239, 240, and 241 is missing from various labs
3) Just how many unreported times in the past the world has barely avoided nuclear catastrophe
4) The cumulative effects of radiation from air travel and medical and dental x rays
5) The real threat of the allied forces of Iran, China, Russia and certain Middle Eastern countries that have already ethically justified the obliteration of the United States government and many of its people (they think our main export is hubris and hypocrisy) and Israel (centuries of warfare, enough already just blow it up, they say).
6) The fact that Iran has already gone nuclear
7) The fact that North Korea has been cooperating for years with Iran on nuclear efforts. This is really what's behind the bellicose threats of war that North Korea's leader likes to taunt the United States with in the press.
8) The American government refuses to fess up to the many sites where it has dumped nasty cancer causing chemicals which taint animal and human water supplies and cause widespread cancer, or the lingering radioactivity from their many bomb detonations.
R170: Damn your number 5 is interesting. What Mid East countries do you see teaming up w/ the others on the list?
In addition to Iran, China, Russia and North Korea - Syria, Sudan, Turkey and possibly Egypt and Libya depending on who is in power.
Japan, India, Indonesia, South Korea, Australia or any European country give no indication of wanting the U.S. or Israel to fold. If any country ever does strike the U.S. militarily, locations where there is a large American military base would also be hit (Germany). Russia wants control of Europe, and China's government wants American resources, and American troops out of Taiwan. Certain Middle Eastern countries are tired of Israel drama. Their solution is to kill many of its citizens and give permanent control to Palestine.
Because these rulers of these governments believe it is ethical to kill many people for the good of all. It's just business to them.
1. The huge concern over bio-terrorism. I don't believe it will come from a country or organisation, but from a rogue individual or individuals. Gore Vidal's novel Kalki is incredibly prescient. This isn't too secret: the govt takes the threat v seriously and is throwing money at it.
2. Definitely a more immediate threat: the mass failure of antibiotics due to their abuse. The government may have one or two antibiotics that are being secretly withheld as first line defences.
3. Flu pandemic. Again the govt may have secret remedies that are being withheld. It would certainly have stockpiled anti-inflammatories for the elite and service staff.
[quote] are the aliens hot? What does it look like when they "do it?"
Since they are machine based, when a male alien wants to "do it" he just unscrews his dick off and sticks it in his own shinny, metallic ass
Don't count on it, r168.
UK officials warned them about the next generation, and they didn't listen. They thought they were turned, but obviously not.
The Lee Rigby case has gone through quite quickly, no questions asked there, either.
I hope his family sue.
A republican created the term "self-loathing" and planted it in the gay community knowing it would catch on and be used with wild abandon.
[quote]Benghazi was a secret CIA post, and as a result, the President can't talk about it, and John McCain, Lyndsey Graham and other Regressives know that, so they know they can keep up the related histrionics, without a rebuttal.
In fairness, they probably killed the station chief, which is always a big deal. Yes, the far right is milking it, but there are legitimate questions. More moderate Republicans could be asking them behind closed doors, and we wouldn't know about that, either.
My stepdad was one of the chief engineers on the moon shot. His company designed the LEM. He worked on it for eight years, starting with Kennedy's speech about going to the moon in 1961. He acquired and set up facilities in three states. The thing is, even his own children are skeptical. He took them to see the LEM and it was displayed with a black velvet curtain behind it which my stepbrother said looked like a stage set. I'm practically the only one in the family who believes it. Stepdad is 92 now, in assisted living, and keeps a little model of the LEM on his coffee table in case anybody asks.
I've been saying what R170 said in their #5 for a while now. Russian billionaires and a couple of Saudi Princes could obliterate the US in a matter of minutes. The US is no longer the super power that it once was.
In the game of war money talks. And we have none. Who will put up the dough to defend us? Buffett? Gates? Oprah? Don't hold your breath.
It's not a matter of money, r179, it's a matter of utilization of resources and being honest about profiteering.
There has always been corruption, but the 1% have truly gotten out of control in the last 40-50 years in every part of life, including the military.
This is what President Eisenhower was talking about when he criticized the Military-Industrial Complex. Specifically, he was talking about the phony missile gap.
what do you mean, R175?
R178, he might have known my uncle, who also worked on the LEM. Grumman in LI?
R182, yes? Grumman! Small world. I bet they did know each other. Stepdad's name is Joe Walsh.
R183, Frederick "Bud" Hamilton; tall, bushy eyebrows. Unfortunately now deceased. Ask your stepdad!
I will R183. Check this space.
Oops, I mean R184
Coke and Pepsi are the same thing.
The pesky constitution is in the way and will be abandoned.
[quote] I'm an alien abductee. I'm also immortal, a gift from them. When I die I will simply wake up in a cybernetic body aboard one of the crafts. It is my duty to try to help humanity embrace technology and to embrace the concept of truly intelligent machines. Together, man and machine can create a fantastic future for both of our benefit.
This is an example of what could be the "Strong delusion" described in- 2 Thes 2:8-15 in the Bible.
There are some believers who speculate that during the end times tribulation, the earth will be introduced to these aliens and the antichrist will convince people to be indoctrinated into their "religion". They are likened to the Nephalim - hybrid off spring of the fallen angels (demons) and humans. Previously wiped out by the flood during Noah's time.
Biblical Prophesy is interesting.
Flight 800 was shot down.
The CIA creating all the evil in the world.
[quote]China's government wants American resources, and American troops out of Taiwan.
I guess China got its way, because there are no American troops in Taiwan.
Yes indeed R190, no doubt about that. Would love to know why.
R158 : and what will happen on Wednesday, January 15, 2014 ?
I also believe the plane crash in the Rockaways was caused by terrorists. As soon as I heard about it I immediately thought about the firefighter at the 9/11 concert who basically said try to come get me and then have his Rockaway address
And I also have assumed it was a shoe bomber since they caught shoe bomber # 2 and I never heard anything in the media about shoe bomber # 1.
Now to time the explosion correctly you'd want to take a trial run. So it should have been easy to identify the bomber - someone who had flown that same flight at least once before after the concert and sat in a window seat.
Why that flight when so many others go over the Rockaways? I worked with a Medical Student from the Dominican Republic and he would go on and on about how roisty those flights were and how the flight attendants had their hands full.
rowdy and feisty if you prefer
R183, heard back from stepfather. Says he didn't know "Bud" Hamilton. Wanted to know what he did there at Grumman.
Obama's Kenyan birth certificate.
Wow R189, you are right on the mark. This is what I meant upthread by tech companies trying to communicate with alien life but having no flippin idea what they are getting themselves into.
Re: Benghazi, it has supernatural/advanced physics timelines, as in the attackers literally appeared from another timeline and disappeared back to whenst they came. Whenever you hear of people disappearing into thin air it's more than an adage, it's the truth (our timelines are filled with tears in the timespace continuum that people fall through) This is why the gov. is so quiet because it's even a mystery to them. Well I shouldn't really say a mystery as they have a framework of understanding (and have a lot of secret R&D themselves when it comes to advanced physics) but they don't quite have a full grasp on the mechanics of it all despite their research and have NO idea how to spin it, thus they are trying to sweep Benghazi under the rug.
The moon landing never happened.
r200 what you and all the other screaming freepers don't understand is that it's all of a piece.
Anyone who reaches higher office in America has been vetted by TPTB, regardless of party affiliation. As someone upthread said, it's not a real two party democracy.
Even if he was born outside America, which I don't believe, if the people who actually run things want him there they will falsify documents. This includes the many conservatives who arranged to put him in power. You're not sticking it to the commies by holding onto this like a pit bull with a turkey leg.
more secrets, please
Silent Green is people. Really tasty people.
"Silent Green is people"
Fortunately they don't make a noise.
Yeah, when I read what I posted, I wanted to smash my iPad against the wall. That was twice it happened today!
We are most certainly not a democracy.
R199, thanks. It was related to Mylar and the LEM.
I think the fact that the moon landing never happened and most folks choose to ignore it and the topic. I find this very strange.