Why does everyone hate it? Granted, Kate Bosworth was terribly miscast as Lois (and her lacefront wig was unforgiveable), but Brandon Routh made a formidable Supes, in my opinion. He was just awkward enough as Clark, and he was dashing as Superman (nevermind his uncanny vocal and facial resemblance to Christopher Reeve). Kevin Spacey was a good enough Lex, and Parker Posey was awesome as usual.
It as too much like the first two Superman films without re-capturing their magic.
People were sick of Luthor as the villain.
Kate Bosworth was a terrible Lois & had no chemistry with Routh.
Routh had no chemistry with Spacey.
It was conceived as both a continuation of the 1980s films, and an imitation of them. It's supposed to take place several years after "Superman II", but has almost the same plot as the 1980 "Superman".
So the film was based on a bad idea, and was then badly executed. The actors were apparently told to imitate their predecessors, but the script gave them nothing to work with. The best part of the film is the title sequence, talk about damning with faint praise.
Bryan Singer wanted to make a Richard Donner Superman movie, but he did not actually understand them.
I think he ended up making a film about his parents.
The plot was lame and non-sensical.
Lois Lane was horribly miscast, just awful.
And the whole "Kryptonite robs Superman of his powers except apparently when it doesn't" crap at the end... and the ridiculousness of how hard he tried to save the plane at the height of his powers, yet after being stabbed with Kryptonite, he can somehow lift an entire continent infused with Kryptonite and thrust it into space.
There's no conflict in someone that powerful, and where the "rules" that are set up are so easily ignored. It was BORING. And the plot didn't make any sense anyway... it was ridiculous.
Brandon Ruth was great with what he was given. It's too bad this movie's failure reflects on him in any way. It shouldn't. He was the best thing about it.
They should have just made a Smallville theatrical film.
Kate Bosworth. Terribly unfortunate miscasting.
Kate Bosworth sucked ass and Brandon Routh just did a Christopher Reeve impersonation.
Ow wow... Bryan Singer was adopted.
Well, that explains "Superman Returns." Supes is the real father of the boy... adoptee wish fulfillment.
Routh was wooden, inept and entirely void of sex appeal.
I thought the opening bit where he's floating in space and then wakes up to save the airplane from crashing into the baseball game was brilliant. He just nods to Lois Lane and then walks off the plane. It went down hill from there.
What is wrong with adults who love comic books and superhero movies? DId puberty pass them by? Are they emotionally retarded? DL armchair shrinks, your diagnoses, please ....
R12 is headless and mental.
[quote] Parker Posey was awesome as usual.
Thank you, 1991.
The movie might be more fondly remembered today if Singer had bothered to get Brandon to doff his top for a decent amount of time.
Kate Bosworth must have pretended to be a twink the day that casting happened because Bryan Singer must have been blindsided by her formidable oral skills. Brandon Routh was a lither ,less effective version of Chris Reeve. Spacey was good as Luthor BUT Gene Hackman was better.All in all, it was an unnecessary redux of the original Superman movies.....
Its main problem was that it didn't have the biggest opening ever.
I loved how no one acknowledged the sexy sexagenarian at R14. I have a message for you, though, Depends: times and tastes change.
[quote] I have a message for you, though, Depends: times and tastes change.
And rarely for the better, semi-literate trog.
I have another message for R14:
Superheroes are nothing new.
Was that the best you could do, R21? Go replace your catheter, and then get back to us with more of your scintillating wit.
Why is R21 talking about himself that way?
R6, I agree. Brandon was the best part.
In the meantime, "I know you are, but what am I?" stands as comic nerd's best comeback. Congrats. Now go drain your all that cystic acne and perhaps you'll get a date some day.
I think that Parker Posey and Kate Bosworth should have switched roles.
Hmmm. Perhaps there IS a connection between comic/superhero fandom and low levels of literacy, r21.
R22, I asked what's wrong with adults who love comic books and superheroes, not how long superhero-esque figures have been around.
And r20, yes, times and tastes (sometimes) change, but superheroes and comic books are hardly a product of changing times--they've been popular in certain segments of American culture since well before I was born, and that would be true even if I were a sexagenerian (not yet). It's true that they used to be more of a kids-only thing, as they should be--but their current popularity among adults is more about infantilization and stunted maturity than changing tastes. People have the same tastes they've had for ages--they just don't grow out of their childhood tastes the way they used to.
So, as with r22's, your post has little relevance to the question of what the hell is wrong with adults who are into this shit.
You should really learn how to spell, R26/R28.
[quote]Routh was wooden, inept and entirely void of sex appeal.
Are you sure you didn't just describe Henry Cavill? Because that's exactly what I think about him.. horrible acting, handsome, but no charisma or sex appeal what so ever.
IMO Brandon Routh was a better Superman. He looked like Superman, he wasn't just a man with a cape, he actually was him. Unlike Cavill.. who just looked fake.
Excuse me, sexagenarian. Now, r29, do you have anything relevant to say?
I'm not r26, btw, nor are there misspellings in his/her post. (Errors of another variety, yes, but everything is spelled correctly.)
Yes, that was relevant, R31. We were discussing literacy; it is difficult to take you seriously if you can't spell correctly.
R14's message made me laugh, not just because I agree with it, but because in my head I heard it delivered in R. Lee Ermey's mocking gunnery sergeant voice from FULL METAL JACKET:
"What's your major malfunction numbnuts? Did PUBERTY pass you right by? Are you an emotional RETARD? Did mommy and daddy not...."
In other words, r32, ya got nothing.
It had no action. It was a all annoying soap opera-ish melodrama. The subplot of little super boy was dumb.
And then weird non-sensical moments - like Parker Posey's character in the runaway car, screaming her head off as she goes plowing into everything.
Total mess, the whole thing.
What is wrong with Supes Returns is what is wrong with every comic book movie with maybe the exception of Batman both burton and current incarnations.
There is s huge rich history in comics from which to pull but Hollywood in it's arrogance thinks they can ignore all that and create bullcrap..bullcrap the fans will call bullcrap when they see their crappy movies.
Singer is doing Days of Future Past right now and having seen all the casting news flying about I am pretty sure it is going to suck hard.
The plot is pretty simple and done since Terminator. Person goes back in time to stop event that causes Armageddon. Kitty Pride, in this case, her older self's mind goes back in time and takes over her younger self. There were X-men and Mystique and her Brotherhood of Mutants. They stop the murder Kitty goes back to future..
Then you read the casting news...I just cast quicksilver....uhhh he was never in it...I just cast Puck...uhh again...never in it. You know who was in it? Cyclops...oh wait that's right they killed him in the movie version.
Superman same thing. Did they have to do a Lex Luthor story? Lets see...Brainiac, terrifying computer from krypton, Doomsday freaky science experiment that kills superman, Parasite, villian that can drain his powers and use them, Toy Man even....come on. No in returns we get Luthor, in MOS we get ZOD.....jesus. They don't need to reinvent the wheel - or even slap dubs on it and call it a day...the gift of a great comic book movie is the script is pretty much written....like RuPaul says..don't fuck it up
In other words, R34, you were shut down.
In your imagination, perhaps, r37, but in this actual thread you have yet to offer a response to my initial post at r14, let alone shut anyone down.
Now, then, do you have any thoughts as to what ails adults who love puerile shit like comic books and superhero movies? Maybe if you take your cue from r33 and imagine my questions posed in the Full Metal Jacket voice, it will stimulate your wee little brain.
Did you really just waste that much space with such inane commentary, R38? ("Full Metal Jacket"? You really must be a sexagenarian.) You're boring, and even worse, you foist your tastes and beliefs on others. You must be a Republican.
Full Metal Jacket? Is this an elder gay crypt? Damn.
[quote]Are you sure you didn't just describe Henry Cavill? Because that's exactly what I think about him.. horrible acting, handsome, but no charisma or sex appeal what so ever.
Yeah, I'm just going to have to completely disagree with you there. His acting was fine, he's drop-dead gorgeous, and sexy as hell.
"Now, then, do you have any thoughts as to what ails adults who love puerile shit like comic books and superhero movies?"
I have a lot of thoughts about what ails adults who like to shit on people who like a bit of harmless fun. Stick up the ass a little scratchy today, Hon?
Still not able to respond to a simple question, eh, r39? Pray tell what taste or belief I have foisted on you?
Why is the pedantic moviegoer from "Annie Hall" now infesting every thread?
I echo R42's sentiments wholeheartedly.
I liked it a whole lot more after the second viewing, primarily due to Routh.
BTW, Routh and Justin Long made a really cute couple in Zach and Miri Make a Porno.
R46/Brandon... you still posting on here?
Parker Posey was best thing in the movie.
Brandon did a good job with the material he was given. If he'd had better direction and a better script, he could likely have done so much more. I've seen him do good work with good scripts. He was great in his story arc on TV series Chuck.
Kevin Spacey just kept chewing scenery. They gave him a whole continent full of scenery and he chewed every bit of it. And still wanted more.
And Kate Bosworth. Did Singer go straight for five minutes? Casting couch is the only thing that can explain her being in that movie.
[quote]Ow wow... Bryan Singer was adopted.
Yep. He was adopted into the Singer family (he's Lori and Marc Singer's adopted cousin).
Also he is the nephew to Mario and Ramona Singer.
"Parker Posey was best thing in the movie. "
For what that's worth! Sure, she had a few amusing moments, but like most of the cast, she came off as a weak echo of her predecessor (the warm and funny Valerie Perrine, in her case). Kevin Spacey, of all people, suffered the most by being compared to Gene Hackman, they both chewed the scenery willingly but Hackman was hilarious and Spacey was just dull.
As for Bosworth, her casting is still a mystery. I did hear that every major actress in Hollywood turned it down, she was the only one desperate enough to take such a badly written role.
Spacey and Bosworth had co-starred in something before SR, and I believe are good friends. She was likely cast on the strength of Spacey's word.
This man is so hot! It still hurts that Brandon wasn't given a second chance as Supes. Fuck the SR writers, fuck Bryan Singer, and double fuck Warner Bros!
Even so, I wish the very best for Henry Cavill. He experienced heartbreak after heartbreak (turned down for Superman once before, turned down for James Bond, etc.). It's his time now. May he rise to superstardom!
Nevertheless, I still strongly hope for the day Brandon Returns to star on the silver screen!
This was on last night. I saw it in theatres and thought it was so-so, but I enjoyed it. Beautiful set. It reminded me of Batman '89.
I also saw Batman Returns and found to enjoy it more so than Batman '89. It was darker.
It was dreary.
Saw this recently. Shockingly slow. Routh has zero charisma and seems like a flaming queen. Writing is vacuous.