I don't even understand why America is into them. I looked at the British tabs, and they have Kim spread on the front page, even with her side-by-side Kate Middleton, saying that they're due the same date. WTF?! The new "Absolutely Fabulous" episodes even made fun of them. I don't understand the obsession with "Friends" or Miss Jennifer Aniston in Britain, nor Paris Hiton, who they gave a show to. They get "The Jersey Shore" in Australia. It's a hit there. Britain's got "Geordie Shore" (their version of "The Jersey Shore").
Americans really need to apologize for producing this crap, especially Ryan Seacrest who gave the Kardashians a show in the first place.
Kim's sex tape and big ass managed to make her and her family a global phenomenon. Who else was able to pull something like this off? They weren't even a famous rich family, unlike the Hiltons. They weren't not a family that was a household name.
[quote]They weren't not a family that was a household name.
I think they opened a store in the UK's biggest shopping mall and were mobbed. Anything American usually gets eaten up here.
I think there's just more homogenised globalization in the age of high speed internet and social media, like language becoming the same. The old ways and sayings are disappearing and being replaced. Any of these "stars" will be known.
Geordie Shore is kinda funny cause it is pretty much an exact approximation in terms of the area. Made in Chelsea though.. there are no words. An exact clone of The Hills.
The US took reality show ideas from the UK so now they take some back.
Just the US, the UK tabloids have a penchant for trailer park trash with money.
Britain still loves Paris Hilton & puts her in the tabs regularly. Britain loves chavvy chavs like the Kartrashians, they used to give this absolute no-talent SLAG so much ink - Jordan. So the Kartrashians fit right in.
The things that cross over from US to other countries just astounds me anymore.
The UK media has been overly interested in pointless celebrities for much longer than ours have in the US.
Years ago I used to hear that the UK would get whatever was going on in the US ten years later. So obesity wise, we're now the fattest in Europe, for example.
Now I guess with the internet and global communications it's a lot shorter than that.
Love, I never knew who the fuck they were until I found DL. I have never known anyone in real life who has spoken of this revolting phenomenon of a family.
I was surprised to learn that Seinfeld never caught on in the UK. Apparently it was scheduled late at night and came on directly after Larry Sanders. They would never schedule Seinfeld after Larry Sanders in the US.
What helped Seinfeld stay afloat during the earlier, iffy years was the Must See TV lineup. Good shows packed together from 8pm until 11pm. Well......except for the 9:30-10p slot which always had some half-baked show the network was trying to keep propped up by the stronger shows.
Here's pics of the Kardashians at their big mall appearance in Britain. If I didn't know any better, I would think it was a mall in Newark from looking at the crowd.
Let's just say there are no Sloane Rangers among their British fans and leave it at that.
I guess they are teen idols the way people like Lief Garrett, Bobby Sherman, Andy Gibb and other pretty boys who really didn't have much talent were back in the day. It's all packaging. Today's boy band music is forgettable; they're just as untalented as their predecessors. The kardashians cut out the middlemen --- songwriters, sound engineers, recording studios. They say, "What you really want is sex, fashion and wealth.. You don't want or need crappy music. Here we are. We'll show you our boobs, our asses, our coochies. We'll fuck sports figures and rappers and you can pretend you are us. Or you can pretend you are fucking us as you beat off. Now hand us your money."
What's even odder is that Honey Boo Boo is hugely popular in parts of the world. I can't wrap my head around that one at all, especially since it would be almost impossible to translate some of that slang to other languages.
They have no taste. Their celbs look and behave like requirements are to be like David and Victoria Beckham. Dumb people who promote dumbness to be fashionable.
Is Honey Boo Boo still not living in a mansion yet? She's RICH now!
r11 says the truth
Big Brother UK had the housemates discussing who looked like hot Kim Kardashian.
Britain is OBSESSED with ANYTHING American. They have no culture of their own anymore. It's really creepy. Just look at the stories on the Daily Fail - 80% of them are about American celebs.
Here in Britain we are force-fed cheap television. It's shit, but we can't do anything about it. Trying to find something good to watch is becoming impossible because the schedules are full of cheap reality programmes bought from other countries and expecially America.
It's also a backlash against the posh, middle class television of previous years. Programmes like 'Brideshead Revisited' would never be made today because they would be deemed too elitist, and middle class, and certainly too expensive. The Chavs have taken over and are being held up a role models. Everything is being dumbed down and it's worrying.
Chav culture took over Britain in the 2000s. I blame Labour honestly, and I'm not a conservative by any means. Labour catered to this shitheads. The London riots are part of the culture that has taken over Britain. It's never Chavs's fault, in fact, it's politically incorrect to call them Chavs, as they're classified as Working Class. Give me a break. Not all Working Class people act like that. That's actually insulting.
I can't believe the amount of fast food restaurants in the country either. People live off of it. That's a big part of the reason the country is so fucking fat now. It's basically America.
Yes, globalization hasn't helped, but still I blame government for catering to the lowest common denominator. The average Brit has now knowledge of history. It's cool to be a moron. It's like the Republicans in the US. Ignorance is bliss. At least Britain doesn't have the religious thing though.
It's frightening how Thatcherism is looked up to in the UK with the young Brits. They don't even know who the fuck she was. Geri Halliwell came out in support of that cunt years ago. That film with Meryl did damage. At least adults remember, but because of the Chavs, many people are siding with Conservatism. They're tired of the PC culture that helped create and promote these little hoodlums. Immigration hasn't helped. You can't say anything about these idiots who won't assimilate because it's deemed hate speech, which can and will get you arrested. It's just a frigging mess.
I do hope Britain gets marriage equality. That would be something positive, something that would make Britain standout. The country needs something to set itself apart from America, and hopefully America would take a cue from Britain and see that marriage equality didn't wreck the nation -- Chavs did that already.
[quote]I can't believe the amount of fast food restaurants in the country either. People live off of it.
Ah, but we don't have Wendy's, Olive Garden, In-N-Out, Chick-fil-A, Jack in the Box, Dairy Queen, Arby's, Pinkberry, Popeyes, Spaghetti Factory, Red Lobster.
Dunkin' Donuts kinda moved out of the UK market and I think Taco Bell briefly were here. Krispy Kreme is only select places. Heck, on the other side of the scale fucking Whole Foods only have a couple of stores.
[quote]I was surprised to learn that Seinfeld never caught on in the UK.
Oddly enough though, when I was in Amsterdam, Seinfeld was on every single night and sometimes during the day.
[quote]I have never known anyone in real life who has spoken of this revolting phenomenon of a family.
I agree. I live in the US but the only time I see the name is at DL. I don't watch reality TV or Hollywood gossip TV. I wouldn't know a Kardashian if I fell over it.
Seinfeld the show, and as a stand up comedian, was hugely popular in Norway.
r18, what sort of reputation did the show As Time Goes By have in Britain? It's actually quite boring but I have always found it oddly comforting and soothing. I can still find it once in a while airing on PBS.
All the hit US shows were on Channel 4. BBC2 were a bit sophisticate.. Seinfeld was revered by those in the know and Larry Sanders even more so.. but both only in a cult way.
I think the last time there were US imports on prime time on the main channels BBC1 and ITV was the mid 80s. The Who Shot JR episode of Dallas was one of the hightest rated TV shows in the UK ever.
Then the British soaps dominated again with Eastenders and by the late 80s Australian soaps got huge ratings on the usually dead 5-6 pm slot thanks to a young audience back from school. And AFAIK Aussie TV was heavily ruled by US and UK imports.
Channel 4 in the 80s - Cheers, Golden Girls, Roseanne
90s - Friends, ER, Will & Grace, Ellen - the latter two not having the 5 million ratings of the rest.
Now it's Big Bang Theory. I think the downmarket Channel 5 shown 2 and Half Men.
The average Brit doesn't even know who the Kardashians are. It's the media that's obssesed, and sections of youth that hang onto fads for a bit.
R17 "Just look at the stories on the Daily Fail - 80% of them are about American celebs." That's because the Daily Heil's biggest readership is in the US. I think the DM is the most-read online newspaper in the world, mainly because the US audience for it is HUGE. Not so much in the UK, where it's seen as the last refuge of the insane.
I don't know anyone who buys the print version and the online version is treated as a joke by most people. It's like the in-house magazine for UKIP. Nobody takes it seriously.
"Friends" is the biggest and most important American export to Britain of all-time. They work that show into almost every British show in creation sans "Downton Abbey". I remember Jennifer Saunders going on and on and on about how wonderful Jennifer Aniston was. I just started watching "Trollied," and bang, there's a "Friends" reference. All these British celebs work "Friends" into conversations. It's like "Seinfeld" in the 90s in America. They wouldn't shut the fuck up about it. It's funny that "Seinfeld" never caught on in the UK, but Larry David did. I'm actually thrilled about that since he was really behind the success of "Seinfeld". Fuck Jerry! I'm now watching "Law and Order: UK". It's alright. I like how Americans caught onto the new "Doctor Who". That's really cool. Graham Norton is big as well. The Beeb is still kicking themselves for passing on "Downton Abbey". They just renewed "The Blandings". What the hell are they thinking??! The only Americans I don't mind having careers in the UK are Gillian Anderson and Kim Cattrall, who has ties to Britain anyway. Britain is still good to actress past 40.
America has tons of trash, but it has such a huge amount of celebs, that the non-trashy celebs outweigh the trashy ones. Britain doesn't have as many. The celebs they come up with that aren't American are Big Brother-type rejects. I did see those "Teen Mom"s on the front of a US publication though. Fuck, society has just gone to hell.
McDonald's are all over the fucking place in Britain, as are KFCs. I have a friend who eats nothing by KFC. He's majorly thin. I'm awaiting his heart attack though. I keep telling him to stop eating that shit. He won't listen. I'm sure they put addictive ingredients in it. I can smell that shit all over the place. Britons went into meltdowns over the fact that they weren't allowing McDonald's into the Olympic games. Even America wouldn't do that.
You should see the American sections of Tescos. You would crack up when it comes to the food they associate with America. It's all crap like Lucky Charms. lol American chocolate is sweeter.
I can't go on the Daily Mail site and if I have to I cover the right hand column. I don't wanna know any more superfluous showbiz shit, don't tempt me to click on them!
It's not the reading of articles in the Daily Mail. They aren't accurate. The attraction is all the pictures. The DM always has the best photo coverage of all the people who are subjects of gossip on DL.
Look at the couple who is the most talked about of any couple on DL -- Anderson Cooper and Ben Maisani. Five years of Cooper-Maisani thread at DL. Now which US publication had the original breaking news on Maisani and the guy in the park? NONE!!!! All those photos were first published in the UK.
The Daily Mail's web site overtook NY Times. That's a disgrace. Isn't The Sun the biggest newspaper in Britain now? A Murdoch rag.
I bet the Fail deliberately puts in some mistakes to annoy people and get more attention.
I understand Breaking Bad had such low ratings in the UK that they dumped it.
Nope never shown I believe r32. Probably done for a reason as it has a big cult following who buy the just released Bluray boxsets. Yay.
R27 Friends was a long time ago and I haven't heard it mentioned by ANYONE since it ended.
McDonald's had a pop up restaurant at the Olympics, it was their largest ever restaurant and was only there for 6 weeks. That was still 6 weeks that had everyone angry that they were there at all. You've never been to the UK, have you?
[quote] Not so much in the UK, where it's seen as the last refuge of the insane.
There must be a lot of crazy people in the UK because that is where the majority of the commenters are from.
[quote] Nope never shown I believe [R32].
The first two seasons of Breaking Bad were broadcast in the UK on FX and Channel SUSA, respectively. Then it was dropped due to dismal ratings.
R26, you (and I) wish.. The reality is that the Daily Mail has the second highest circulation figures in the UK (see link). I see people getting it. Hell, my grandparents had a subscription to it (I know, I know, ugh).
While it's true that intelligent people don't take the DM seriously, unfortunately a lot of the lower and middle middle class does.
Dismal channels and couldn't afford the rights more like. When was this r36? It's often referred to as TV's best kept secret. Maybe they just meant terrestrial TV.
[quote] When was this [R36]?
Seasons 1 and 2 were shown so late at night on FX and 5USA that they may as well have been blue movies. Consequently, viewing figures were so low that they scrapped future broadcast plans.
The people I know in the UK read The Telegraph (well the UK is much more conservative these days) & The Times, and read the tabloids like the Sun on the trains to work.
[quote][R27] Friends was a long time ago and I haven't heard it mentioned by ANYONE since it ended.
I do, and I'm sick of it.
Catherine Tate and Little Britain wrecked British comedy. Everything became catch phrases. Ricky Gervais took the piss out of it with his show "Extras". It's not hard to figure out why Britain is in the state that it's in. America is not a terrible country, but how much of it has rubbed off on the UK is unbelievable. It's true that Britain is 10 years behind the US. That's funny that you mentioned that. Oprah finally crossed over. How did it take her so long to do so? I thought that woman was the most powerful entity in existence? She's another person "Ab Fab" made fun of. Richard and Judy stole her book club thing. Thank god they're off the air. Judy was a big old drunk.
[quote]McDonald's had a pop up restaurant at the Olympics, it was their largest ever restaurant and was only there for 6 weeks. That was still 6 weeks that had everyone angry that they were there at all.
Uh, no. The people who were angry were people like Jamie Oliver, who btw is fat as a house. Coca-Cola and Cadbury were ushered in too.
I will say that the media did blast the McDonald's thing, but the public ate it up (no pun intended). The entire situation was the height of irony.
Britain has gay mags unlike America. They're the real deal, not just straight celebs with whitewashed crap in and on it.
[quote]Britain has gay mags unlike America. They're the real deal, not just straight celebs with whitewashed crap in and on it.
Bullshit. That Attitude Magazine (UK mag) is forever having straight men on the cover. Real deal my ass.
I think it's bizarre(telling?) that the'ascension ' of the Kardashian clan coincides with the Nicole Brown/OJ Simpson murder case. I'd never heard of the name/family until then. And I heard mama Kris was supposedly one of Nicole's best friends but has ruthlessly capitalized on the name recognition the trial has brought.
Can anyone say 'human sacrifice'? Some people will do anything for a quick route to fame and fortune and since the kardashians lack any discernable talent except self promotion, it's hard to think of a possible reason that the media is obsessing over them....
Like the one funny moment in the sitcom Ellen, the gay mags are filed on the top shelf along with the porn.
Only the porn has been replaced by lad's mags like Nuts. There are now calls to outlaw these as they're demeaning to and objectify women. Whorra shocka.
Word r19. I blame cheap entertainment masquerading as social experiment Big Brother. Around that time the vile Heat magazine started to become big and you got a dozen other clone gossip rags. The Beckhams really kicked off the obsession with celeb culture I suppose, but internet heightened it.
I tell you what though, the US seemed to miss a trick with Big Brother. I'm glad it's basically over but it really was the biggest thing for the young demographic here and a TV event up till Jadegate where it was the beginning of the end. Her being on the celeb version this time around said it all. Kim K suddenly makes sense.
The US Big Brother didn't seem to have the huge live eviction nights that were in the UK. It seems a lost opportunity. But The Real World was better anyway.
I read Heat for a brief time in the early 2000s but that was before dlisted made it more palatable to read about these morons. I can't be doing with knowing too much crap about celebs. I do love that DL goes much deeper than any site there though with that and gay preoccupations.
The Kardashians are famous, because Kim made a sex tape.
And, they like soul men!
The highest rated drama in the UK in recent years is 'Call the Midwife' which tells the stories of real women in an era when life was still a struggle for many. It doesn't soft soap their experiences, nor does it care a jot about promoting names above talent. Most of the younger cast have a theatre background and most of the older cast are unrecognisable, as they play nuns.
Contrast this with the fact that I don't know a single person in the UK who gives a flying fuck about Kim Kardashian, You might believe we all drink the Downton kool-aid because it suits your own class perceptions, but over here it is seen as a posh soap opera, not as an accurate historical representation.
In summary: this is yet another pointless trolling post from someone whose view of the UK is gleaned from crappy tabloids. No matter what the their circulation figures, they are no more representative of the UK than The National Enquirer is of the US.
so are you saying that Chav culture has not taken over, R53?
R18/R19, any chance of the pendulum swinging back? There are so many intelligent people in England. I hate that the stupid & crude are so dominant on TV and in the culture in general.
I met someone who told me "The Chavs have ruined England."
I actually am beginning to think that it is political. 1. To make the population stupid; 2. To make the population stupid as inequality increases (they won't know what is going on and they won't fight back).