What are some people or things popular in New Zealand, Australia and England but aren't in America?
I was wondering about this. Kylie Minogue seems very popular in Australia but no one knows who she is in America. I mean seriously I didn't even know who Minogue was. I thought she was just some nobody that no one really knows about but when I googled her, she had quite the fanbase.
Also another observation: everything popular in the United States is bound to be popular in England and Australia no matter how bad or crappy the things is. Anything and everything America likes or dislikes, the rest of the world follows. If say, children in the United States stabbed themselves with a knife as a tradition on their birthday. There's bound to be English children or Canadian children who will do that as well.
Now you know that's not true R1.
Black Pudding (retch!).
Marmite indeed, & the Aussie equivalent Vegemite. I can't stand either of them enough to make direct comparisons & find them equally vile.
Pavlova -- big in Oz and NZ; here barely known.
I love it and wish I had some right now!
[quote]Anything and everything America likes or dislikes, the rest of the world follows.
With the exception of country music. That's virtually none existent here.
[quote]Kylie Minogue seems very popular in Australia but no one knows who she is in America.
There are plenty of things and people who are famous and popular in the US and nowhere else.
I'm sure they have no idea who Donald Trump is in NZ, nor do they care.
And country music must be popular in Australia or else Keith Urban would not have had a career.
Exactly R11. OP, you're wrong to assume that everything the US does is popular everywhere else. There's a ton of shit music that never crosses over. A lot of US cultural offerings are a triumph of promotion and distribution over content.
The US does excel at groundbreaking television drama.
There are a lot of major stars in the UK who never cross over. I've always assumed there were US stars that are not popular in the UK. Common sense disagrees with OP's contention that " everything popular in the United States is bound to be popular in England and Australia no matter how bad or crappy the things is."
r2, a bump is always true.
One of the rare occasions when I want to break out into a chant of U-S-A! U-S-A!
Also OP, there's a lot of great American music that isn't at all popular in the US that is popular in other parts of the world. Cultural hegemony cuts both ways.
Bovril!! The beef tea!
The music currently popular in the USA, is brain rot. Europeans have much better tastes in music.
NZer here - it isn't true that anything in the US is popular elsewhere. We don't like the music, the food and a lot of other things from the US. We take on more UK stuff than US (including music) and I think you'll find the same for all of Oceania/Australasia.
Halloween hasn't really taken off. Each year a few people try to get it going but apart from the odd Halloween-themed party, it's not a major thing.
You can get Tim Tams in the U.S. now, but the recipe has been "tweaked" for the American market and they fucking suck. Just like with Nutella. I used to have relatives bring boxes back from NZ and Australia before I found they were now carrying the originals at Cost Plus.
Dame Edna. I had no idea who this was until I saw it linked on Datalounge by one of those Empire persons.'
R23, what are you talking about? Halloween is very popular in America.
Internet lounges. Seems like they are everywhere but America.
The metric system
I forget what it's called, but it's some kind of sponge cake with chocolate or jelly and coconut, I think.
Too lazy to google.
No, I don't think so. I thought jaffa cakes were more cookie-like. Am I wrong?
R7, I make killer pavlova, especially when there are seasonal fresh fruits, like now.
I have had a subscription to Delicious since it was available in the U.S. The availability of fresh seafood, fruits and vegetables always makes me hungry.
Nutella on a warm biscuit, with Earl Gray tea.
YES, R33! Thank you.
Kylie is moderately known in the US, but outside of there she has a level of fame on virtually on par with any other pop star (Madonna, Janet etc). She has sold around 70 million albums during her career which is impressive when you consider that she's only sold about 1 million in the US (a huge market).
I'm a big Kylie fan but do admit that she's not exactly aging gracefully at the moment, and needs to change the direction of her music if she still wants to be relevant.
Just look at gay stuff. The fantastic series Rock Follies with our own Countess Rula Lenska, and written by a gay man, featured a totally normal and cool gay guy who would tongue kiss back in bloody 1976!!!! It screened in the UK and Commonwealth countries in prime time. Tell me if a passionate french kissing scene between gay man has yet to screen on US network tv in prime time?
American snack food is pretty awful and has never caught on. Hersheys has tried repeatedly to make a dent but the brown salted fat it terms chocolate is so dreadful it couldn't compete.
Julian Clary. Household name in UK and big hit in Oz & NZ, but totally unknown
in US, including in gay community - for want of a better term.
Don't know if they have them in the UK or AUS, but a Kiwi friend gave me Pineapple lumps and I swear I could eat those little motherfuckers all day.
I moved from the USA to the UK in the mid-2000s. Before I moved back to the States several years ago, I learned there are scores of homegrown British celebrities who get tons of press and are unheard of in the USA. I'd pick up a glossy magazine to find it full of domestic celebs like Kerry Katona, Katie Price, Jade Goody, Girls Aloud, former Blue members, former Take That members, The Saturdays, Peter Andre, Will Young, Jeff Brazier, Vinnie Jones, Myleene Klaas, some TV woman called Davina...Some "zelebs" you can avoid by steering clear of the gutter press, others are covered more widely.
Sometimes I'd be reading legitimate newspapers and suddenly find myself reading about the lives and opinions of people like Chris Moyles and Ferne Cotton. Who are these people, I wondered for the longest time, until I finally figured out that they are DJs on the radio. They "present" music on the radio and are granted celebrity status for this.
I don't know if Australia and NZ have the same kind of overheated local celeb culture as the UK.
I did notice that the UK gossip columnists followed all the minor US celebrities like Paris Hilton, whereas the USA had no interest in the British equivalents (Tara Palmer-Tomkinson for Paris, maybe?).
strength of character, kindness and compassion are quite big in NZ, Oz and the Uk. They seem very unpopular in America.
Going off on a tangent here, but I'm too poor to start threads...
Why aren't there any French musical acts from the past (what, thirty to fifty years?) known in the U.S.?
Did they not rock at all? What was there deal?
Is the South Island no longer part of NZ, R47?
The names Nigel, Niles*, Hugh, Rupert. I've never met an American with those names.
Why do Americans mispronounce the name Hugh all the time - It's supposed to be Hugh with an "H", but it's always mispronounced as "Yew".
The same way the "Graham" is mispronounced as "Gram".
R52, I'm American and have a good friend named Hugh. I have never heard anyone mispronounce his name.
However, I know a woman named Yvonne and another named Yvette and nobody pronounces their names correctly.
ooo, where do you live, r35?
I'm coming over with some fresh fruit so you can teach me how to make it!
r12 Keith Urban is a New Zealander
R52 is onto something. The letter H is more popular outside the US.
Also: the theory of evolution.
NZer here. Country music is almost non existent. However we are happy to claim Keith Urban but bloody glad that we don't have to claim Leann Rimes
PS - foreskins have made a comeback down under!!
Good ones, R45 and R50.
Jaffa cakes are English. Lamingtons are Australian.
Another one: passionfruit. I believe it's only eaten by Australians and New Zealands - on pavlovas, in fruit salad, in cake icing, etc.
And: great coffee. Australia and NZ have many great cafes with properly prepared coffee (not the gross stuff served up by Starbucks). Have only had as good coffee in Italy and Israel. US and UK still lag way behind, but better than they used to be.
We Australians have are own crappy celebrities that most others have never heard of. We also have plenty of good and not so good actors, and music performers probably no one has heard of outside of Oz apart from maybe the Kiwis.
r48, no, they did not rock at all. European (as in continental Europe) popular music from that time period in general was mindless pap. There are a few exceptions but not enough to create a huge popular market for the music. There were no French Rolling Stones, no Italian Beatles, no Spanish Aretha Franklin or Bob Dylan. For whatever reason, it just didn't happen.
Again, there are a few exceptions and some wonderful artists from the period, but it just never became a force in world music.
Bears repeating: Rugby.
It's a sin that it isn't more popular here if only to have the All Blacks play matches in the US.
Country Music is American Music R57. Foreigners like Urban are discouraged.
The All Blacks haka moves me to tears.
[quote]The fantastic series Rock Follies with our own Countess Rula Lenska, and written by a gay man, featured a totally normal and cool gay guy who would tongue kiss back in bloody 1976!!!! It screened in the UK and Commonwealth countries in prime time. Tell me if a passionate french kissing scene between gay man has yet to screen on US network tv in prime time?
Australia had a soap called "Number 96" (not joking) in the 70's with a non-comic gay character called Don. I don't know if there were ever any passionate kisses, but he was a character treated with respect - possibly pre-"Rock follies".
See link below. Hopeless production values but its heart was in the right place.
This is supposedly from 1972.
[quote]strength of character, kindness and compassion are quite big in NZ, Oz and the Uk. They seem very unpopular in America.
Anything that doesn't have an immediate monetary reward is unpopular in the good ol' greedy U.S.
What on earth is that Minogue creature's appeal? She looks like an ugly, mutant dog and can't sing. Is this thing considered a beauty in Australia? Granted most of their women are ugly, sunburned, haggard trash descended from convicts, but still.
My Brother in law formerly from England, makes Yorkshire pudding for every occasion we get together. It's a disappointment to see they're just some doughy item instead of the sweet all American goodness that Bill Cosby extolled about. it'll never take off here.
At another gathering he mixed things up by making Bubbles & Squeak which was not totally terrible.
[quote]At another gathering he mixed things up by making Bubbles & Squeak which was not totally terrible.
Ha! I first learned of Bubble & Squeak in that BEAUTIFUL THING movie. Apparently, it's leftover vegetables cooked together or something. Whatever, it didn't sound appetizing.
Bubble & Squeak is just a cabbage and potato hash. It is slightly more interesting than cornbread or what Americans call biscuits - i.e. flavourless stodge.
As for the zelebs, the US is not immune: Real/Fake/Plastic Housewives, Angelyne, Octomom, the never ending Anderson Cooper (who?) threads to say nothing of the soap stars, whose series never cross over (99.9% of them). In fact, at times, half the threads here seem to be about one or other of these World-Famous-In-The-USA types. I found blogs like dlisted invaluable in pointing out the media phenomenon of the moment, however low-brow.
One thing that is enormously popular in the UK are baked beans. People assume that since Heinz is the best-known brand this fart fuel must be equally popular in the US. Apparently not.
Most home bands.
On the flipside, Taylor Swift has nowhere near the popularity in the UK as she has back home. Same with most country music.
R66 Wales wasn't mentioned.
r49, I do not get your comment. Explain, please?
R38 Madonna's fame worldwide is MUCH bigger than Janet's
Madonna is the biggest selling female artist in Australia for instance, beating Kylie in her own market.
In Europe Madonna is the 3rd biggest selling artist of all time and the biggest selling female and American artist in Europe.
Her worldwide fame is on par with Michael, certainly not Janet, who's always been a flop in Europe, and definitely more so than Kylie
Hell Madonna has sold more albums that Janet and Kylie COMBINED!
R71--Take that back! Cornbread is delicious
Kylie Minogue is known here. She had a little shine then it faded here but she's known.
R12, don't be a moron, of course people in NZ, Australia and the UK know who Donald Trump is.
Kylie Minogue obscurity in the US is on the front page of the New York Times' website at this moment.
Another example of the power of Datalounge to shape the media.
Correction, R78, of course people in NZ, Australia and the UK know of Donald Trump's elaborate comb over. It's the Eighth Wonder of the World. Fuck knows what he does otherwise.
Sausage rolls. ANZAC biscuits. Pie floater. Theory of evolution.
Stop lying, R80.
The Apprentice has aired in NZ, the UK and Australia, spawning local versions.
Australia: The motherfucking Divinyls
Their politicians aren't as batshit crazy as many of ours.
And I can't imagine talk radio being as nasty and insanely right wing outside of the US.
Breakfasts comprising fried tomatoes, fried eggs, fried "streaky" (gristly) bacon, and fried bread. With cold toast. In a toast-holder.
R85, Americans like big breakfasts. Americans in general will eat anything they have been exposed to.
r86, I'm an American who's eaten in British B&B's, and I assure you we do NOT like fried bread and tomatoes at breakfast! And our bacon is actually edible!
In homes we prefer cereals.
What's fried bread? Is it French toast?
When I was growing up we always had a painful of bacon grease on our stove. We fried our eggs in it. Then we would fry more bacon in the same pan. When you had enough grease, you could fry potato cubes in it, add a few onion bits -----> hash browns.
I haven't eaten that in years. My non-Irish American friends were horrified by that pan of grease on the stove.
Americans don't like big breakfasts, r86. if we do it is only once a week at brunch. We prefer very simple breakfasts with cereal for the most part. It's the Brits and the Irish and the Aussies who like big breakfasts with lots of protein and grease.
Yes r90, and just like all you healthy Americans, it's once a week, if that.
Big breakfasts are cafe, hotel and B&B things for most people. They are not the normal every day breakfast of most people. That's toast or cereal. I think travelling gives a false impression.