Guys who probably "serviced" other men on their road to success, but will never admit it
Anyone from Backstreet Boys/N' Sync - how many of them "befriended" Lou Perlman?
Lee Majors - "befriended" Rock Hudson
Arnold Schwarzenegger - back in the day a lot of bodybuilders would prostitute themselves to rich, old guys
I have no idea who the person in r1's photograph is.
Aren't young trade usually the ones being serviced by lascivious old men? That's the most common scenario.
Any actor who's ever been referred to as "pretty" by the media.
I'll betcha Brad greased 'er up
You're not alone, R2.
uh actually NO, R3. That is the myth 20 somethings would like you to believe becasue they are ashamed of being whores so they think a perv is more harshly judged than a whore.
A wealthy older guy has everything. There is a line every Saturday at his pool parties and they all look alike. Nothing special about any of them, no matter what their 20something egos think.
r7 = Bryan Singer
R8= desperate, rejected and bitter Starbucks barista who wasn't as relatively hadsome in L.A. as he was led to believe he would be when he got on the bus westward with his flyover view of the world nurtured in his hometown of Tulsa, Okla.
The young Clint Eastwood was "befriended" by an older gay film director, can't think of his name right now.
r10, the director's name was Arthur Lubin
Didn't Tony Danza used to swim nude in Merv Griffin's pool way back in the day?
Also, isn't it true that half the guys on As The World Turns serviced former head writer on the show, Douglas Marland?
Ryan Seacrest owns this thread.
B H Obama?
"Didn't Tony Danza used to swim nude in Merv Griffin's pool way back in the day?"
Ryan Seacrest was also "friends" with Merv
Colin Farrell - early in his career he got big breaks from both Kevin Spacey and Joel Schumacher
Yes that does not suprise me at all about Colin.
Ah-nold was friends with Dakota, the gay porn star who did Colt videos.
r3 is very naive.
Long-term relationships notwithstanding, it's not the pretty one who calls the shots - it's the wealthy ones. And for every wealthy man who likes the company of other men, there are 10,000 pretty boys willing to provide it (and about 50,000 willing to provide it with role restrictions).
And while calling the shots does not necessarily equal being a top, the probabilities draw the line right down the middle. At least now, the youngsters get to suck on a dick that can get hard. And for the same reason, the amount of geezers wanting to put it in somewhere has nothing but increased.
I've posted this before, but here we go again. Lou the perv Pearlman had sexual contact on some level with all the Backstreet Boys except for Brian Littrell(a real fundie) and Kevin Richardson who I believe is Brian's cousin. And those two probably engaged in some grab=ass with "Uncle" Lou.
N'Sync: he gave or received from all of them. Yes, even Joey Fatone.
O Town: all of them
LFO: The late Rich Cronin and Brad Fischetti.
He's not a pedo, because unlike Michael Jackson, his taste runs towards guys in their late teens, early 20's. But of every person I have ever met who I would consider too odious to even imagine him slobbering on me, it would be Pearlman. He got his just desserts though, but there was collateral damage done.
Ryan Gaycrest does OWN this. Merv Griffin was much more than a "friend" to him.
R22, you sound like you know some inside scoop. I know Perlman is a sleaze, but did he really diddle with all of those guys? What made Kevin Richardson (THE hottest boybander ever) turn him down if all those other guys didn't?
Was playing with pervert Perlman a requirement for being in one of his boy bands, or did participants just want an edge in the competition?
Chickenhawks gravitate towards boybands like moths to a flame
[quote]O Town: all of them
Swf, could that be the reason that one sexy kid left under mysterious circumstances right after the final group was selected but right before they started recording and touring? Did he not want to be part of that payback?
I remember he was replaced with the biggest queen any group ever saw...
Swf, v glad you're back with your pearlman stories! Plz tell us everything you know about Timberlake and homosex!
Andrew Sullivan. He should have aimed higher.
1 Direction. Those boys have zero talent and I'm sure they had to service Simon Cowell to get recording contracts.
Why would Andrew Sullivan need to service other men in order to gain success? He was a good writer from the start and moved up with ease due to his writing ability. Just because you don't like him is no reason to add his name to this type of list. Next you'll be adding other creeps like Aaron Schock and Lindsey Graham to your list. None of them needed to service anyone to get their current status.
Ryan O'Neal ("pretty" boy, one of the worst actors I've ever seen, with obvious "issues")
Don Johnson, maybe? Didn't Sal Mineo "personally" put him in that homoerotic play?
serviced? that means sucking on somebodys goober without getting anything back right?
Why would Andrew Sullivan need to service other men in order to gain success? He was a good writer from the start and moved up with ease due to his writing ability.
That's not true.
I knew Andrew Sullivan very well in the late 80s, and I can say with authority that although Andrew was a fine and very smart writer, there's no way he would have been made editor of the New Republic at age 28 (when he was young and pretty) if the owner, notorious closet case Martin Peretz, had not been wildly in love with him at the time.
This is what Andrew looked like at the time. He was really a looker back then.
[quote]A wealthy older guy has everything. There is a line every Saturday at his pool parties and they all look alike. Nothing special about any of them, no matter what their 20something egos think.
*snort*. R7 would give his left nut for a chance to get pissed on by a "nothing special" 20something.
Newsflash Liberace, you can keep your boring pool parties. We want to hang out with each other, not some wrinkled pervy grampa with old man smell. Ewww.
Remember Gary Conway?
Anderson Cooper sucks a mean cock.
Lavar Burton owns this thread.
r36, Wagner was also very close to Spencer Tracy. You have to wonder what went on there - I don't think it was Wagner's talent that interested Spence since Wagner has never been much of an actor
What about Seann William Scott? He did some show for DEN - some gay mafia types had connections to DEN
r47, it was some media company started by a bunch of chickenhawks who later got in trouble with the law. The DEN guys partied with gay mafia types like David Geffen and Bryan Singer
Ah, OK. Thanks. I'm sure Scott Rudin was involved somehow.
Perlman usually got compensated by one member of the band. He sexually harrassed Nick Carter. JC Chasez was Nsyncs sacrificial lamb who lived with Perlman. Kirkpatrick made the original deal with Lou so its assumed he paid.
Timberlake and Lance Bass were both underage so their moms were with them throughout the early days. If you ever met JTs momma Lynn you know Perlman would be dickless if he touched her baby.
Every time I read stories like R50's, I think about that scene in "Godfather" of the disheveled little girl at the top of the stairs in Jack Woltz house. Her mother pulls her back into the bedroom.
R50, JT's momma couldn't have been there every second. Swf has posted that plenty of fucked up stuff went on with pedo pearlman. Justin was a ripe little chicken, hard to imagine pearlman would've let him dodge the bullet.
Swf also said that Perlman didnt go for underage and JT was underage. Perlman was a freak but even the boy band members who were interviewed by press said Perlman usually got it from one member of the band not all members. Once again if Mom Lynn wasnt there you had Bass' mom there. The two 'babies' were protected by the moms and the other guys. Must be why Chasez was the closest to Lou. No need to pick the 14 year old when the attractive 18 year old was right there.
Sadly Nick Carters mom didnt protect Aaron even after Nick told her he wouldnt hang out with Lou bc of his creepy touchyness. Carter's mom informed AJs mom about it but seemed to trust Lou years later with Aaron. Of course Mrs. Carter was the kind of stage mom who would sell her kid out unlike the watchful and overprotective Lynn Harless.
When it was first in the news about Perlman being a perv, someone asked Chris Kirkpatrick if it had been hard dealing with him, and chris said it wasnt a problem for him personally because he wasnt one of the little cute ones that Perlman always had his hands all over.
Goes way back, but Clark Gable was said to have 'serviced' anyone who could advance his career, male, or female. He also wore dentures, and was known to give a mean BJ, with the teeth out. George Cukor, the gay director, was apparently one of those who partook, early on . That's why, when Cukor began directing "GWTW", Gable became paronoid that Cukor might let that that little secret slip, and demanded he be replaced - he was. The studio line, always used, was that Gable wanted him replaced, because he was already known as a 'womans' director, and feared Cukor would favor the female per-
formances, and neglect his.
"When it was first in the news about Perlman being a perv, someone asked Chris Kirkpatrick if it had been hard dealing with him, and chris said it wasnt a problem for him personally because he wasnt one of the little cute ones that Perlman always had his hands all over."
I could buy that. Chris Kirkpatrick was the homeliest of the boybanders.
Fernando Lamas was busy with M and F execs as he worked his way through Hollywood.
All the tabloids were alive with talk of Keanu Reeves and Geffen. Or Keanu Reeves with Bertolucci. Keanu had a talent and he was wise enough to use it.
"Fernando Lamas was busy with M and F execs as he worked his way through Hollywood."
What female execs? There were hardly any back then
Ryan Seacrest with Merv.
Taylor Lautner, and the rest of the twilight twinks.
Shia LaBeouf, and his co-star Megan Fox and Lohan.
Al Pacino, but this has been known for awhile.
Brad Pitt but he was kept by Thom Racina.
"Shia LaBeouf, and his co-star Megan Fox and Lohan."
Which guys did Shia blow?
No info on Shia?
Swf's "gossip" is so old and rehashed. She never offers anything knew. In fact this entire thread is filled with gossip that has practically become cliche.
Shia and whom? I call bullshit on that. He might have experimented but he was no one's "mistress" or bottom for a night.
Bradelina, Tammy, Clintina and Ryanna have all been mentioned before. Big deal. Give us someone we would be surprised by like let's say Ashton Kutcher.......or Joe Manganiello.
The young Alain Delon must have put out in 1957 or 1958 when he was starting out and "discovered" at the Cannes Film Festival - he was photographed at the time by gay photographer John Barrington who was covering the festival, and it seems he had a meeting with notorious Henry Willson as well, Rock Hudson later said that Delon had a tiny dick ! But 3 years later in 1960 Delon was the hot new star with Plein Soleil (Purple Noon), so maybe he put out for rumoured to be gay director Rene Clement as well.
R67 Alain is notoriously bi.So that story is not a shock. I'm told that he is a cunt of the highest order as well.
It wouldn't be surprising about Ashton or Justin Bieber.
Rock Hudson, James Dean, Paul Newman, and Brad Pitt.
Tony Curtis admitted in a 70s interview on the BBC with interviewer Michael Parkinson (back when all the stars were queueing up to be interviewed on his show) that as a pretty young actor starting out he did what he had to do to get ahead ..... as most pretty young actors have to do.
r66, Shia was Spielberg's protégé.
Make of that what you will.
More dish about Alain Delon, please.
There are many jokes about Alain Delon, either revolving around his perceived sexual power in Asia, or to the fact that he refers to himself as "Alain Delon", in the third person.
R73 I've heard rumors about Spielberg but how true are they? He was brazenly out and about with Daphne Zuniga while his wifey Katie sat on her thumbs at home.
Don't tell me that SS screwed Geffen....that would be impossible. Geffen likes Gentile twinks who are barely legal. Steven's not his type.
Rock Hudson was involved with a power player at Universal Studios when he was a contract player there. I'm blanking on the guy's name at the moment...
[r76] I was working at a major magazine in the mid 90's, and this behind the scenes whispering about speelberg being "actually gay" was tossed around the office as "undeniably true". I found it so absurd, that I dismissed it as idiotic.
This speculation was not about any other industry person or that he slept his way to the top. Frankly, he's so talented that any rumors of this nature don't make any sense. It's talentless people succeeding that makes this kind of rumor resonate.
Now, to read this gay rumor here again, almost 20 years later, is so weird. Maybe it is true (or was true)
Whose Amy Irving's main gay? Find him! He'll know.
[quote]Whose Amy Irving's main gay?
Did Amy fool around with Mandy when they made "Yentl"? Did Babs and Mandy do it too?
Jerry Brown but he's a major closet queen and his "wife" is a lesbian.
Probably pretty much every leading male actor that's in the 25-mid 30s age range.
I found out recently David Tennant was "best friends" with Richard Wilson (openly gay and about 35 years older) when he was in his early 20s and first starting out, and RW got him his first big theatre role and a role co-starring in RW's sitcom. Might be perfectly innocent but it made me wonder.
Tennant's always raving about other guys being hot and having amazing bodies and he really doesn't read as 100% hetero despite the accidental knocking up of young blondes.
A lot of male politicians.
I've never heard of any Spielberg rumors but he always pinged for me. He's getting queenier as he ages.
Thomas Jane, the lead actor from the series Hung as admitted to it.
Also Ceasar Romero had help from Desi Arnez Sr.
I would not be surprised if Shemar Moore let a guy blow him at least once for an acting job.
R89 Desi was sucked off by Cesar. However it was a Latin thing where Desi was the top and Cesar was the bottom.
Which one shit on the glass coffee table, R90?
R90 I am Latin, and can tell you it was a homosexual thing, not a Latin thing.
Wasn't Cesar the scat queen?
As for She-Mar ,what makes you think he never sucked someone off for a job?
I used to think even if I had the money I wouldn't ever want to pay for it because if the guy doesn't care or want to be with you then what's the point?
Of course, then I have my moments where I'm just flat out horny and don't care if he's not into it.
But geez... how could anyone have something long term when you know it's not real.
Then again, I think plenty of straight women marry for security and money and the guys have no problem fooling themselves.
The thing is, I thought Julia Phillips talked about Spielberg making a pass at her and them rolling around in the bed together.
R92 Sorry Latin queen but Desi was the top deary. Cesar talked about it a bit. If the guy is the bottom and the other the top it's not gay.
R95 Are you sure that wasn't Julian Phillips? I'm just saying......
Keanu got used by Gus Van Sant, Kenneth Branagh, Bernardo Bertolucci and others. Never knew what to make of the Geffen rumors.
Though, Geffen got Tom Cruise for sure. Look at who produced Risky Business and it will all come together. Also, Geffen got The Last American Virgin's Steve Antin.
What do you think Geffen did with Cruise, specifically? Did he top him or did Cruise top Geffen?
I knew a guy like that but he never really "made it." I mean he didn't make it in his profession as a photographer. He certainly made it with other (famous) people. This was a while ago but he was one of the masculine, young, blonde guys that mixed with older producers and other closeted industry professionals around Rock Hudson's pool. They all loved him. One time he called me from the Green Room at the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson. He was with Peter Allen back then. When he passed away, we weren't sure if it was Allen or Hudson who gave it to him. But it could've been anyone, really.
R90 I'm also Latin and only a guy that's bisexual like Desi, or gay like Cesar would have sex with another man.
I'm not sure why Desi had sex with the actor who was the Joker on batman? I hope Cesar didn't want to dress up in the makeup and his hair was not dyed green.
Apparently lots of NASCAR drivers, NFL players, and other people in sports but I don't really watch or follow sports at all.
It always irritated me as a kid that Cesar was too arrogant to shave his mustache to play The Joker.
R83 he's also BFFs with Arabella Weir but that doesn't mean he was fucking her. I know a couple who know him and their stories have always been that he's a pussy hound, at least back in the day before he was married.
I know it goes against the fantasy lives that so many here have built for themselves but not all successful actors are gay. Its possible to get by on talent. It's also possible for gays and heteros to be friends.
So if George Lucas helped Spielberg get started in Hollywood does that mean they were a couple? I knew there had to be more to those old rumors of Spielberg brazenly walking onto Universal's lot and into an empty office.
R107 if that's true they were not a "couple" anymore than Merv, and Gaycrest or Merv and all of his flavor of the month/week/day actor/model boytoys would be a "couple", and Jerry Brown and all of his twinks at male only parties were a "couple". It's called the casting couch, or having an older person with wealth/power have the person who is young who wants wealth/power to put out.
R105 who says that David Tennant is hetero?
you guys are absolutely stark raving bat shit crazy mad.
Brad Pitt, see url. I guess R110 and that other foolish queen R105 would think that LMAO Brad and Thom Racina were purely platonic housemates.
Fascinating how many gay directors there are r55. We know of the obvious ones today but you usually think it's the performers than the directors. But then you have all the gay painters etc, every area of the arts.
Cukor is one of the legendary directors - GWTW AND Wizard of Oz, and I'm sure the best bit of GWTW was him.
Would love to see more about gay directors. Vincente Minelli? Douglas Sirk?
r105, know anything about his marriage? Supposedly they live apart and only married for PR reasons after her accidental pregnancy. Seems like he's away on location most of the year.
His wife keeps posting weird shit like half naked pics of him and trolling fans on her FB, while he acts like she's a state secret and makes her walk behind him and enter and leave buildings separately.
She gave birth a couple of months ago, she posted a birth announcement and pics publicly, but for some reason the press haven't mentioned a word about it, even censoring articles about them to remove mentions of the new baby. V weird.
R104 It looked OK. DC has a new Batman 66 comic coming out(based on the Batman TV series) and I wonder if The Joker will have a mustache!
R101 That would have been kinky and fun no? Desi and The Joker in make up? You're talking about a more modern Latino way. Back then(sixty to seventy years ago) if you were the total top you weren't "gay." Much like Muslim guys fucking young girls or trannies and still being "straight". These days we don't buy into that bull!
I think the director Jon Amiel is gay, even though he is married. I don't think he has worked much lately. Why do gay directors beard?
Sadly plenty of non-famous gay men who have nothing to do with the entertainment industry are married to women and have a secret (sometimes not so secret) sex life R116.
It doesn't always about being an actor trying to maintain your PR. Sometimes it is more personal.
Gay directors, and others, may be somewhat bi, may want kid to please their parents and relatives and may want a close female friend/assistant to handle social and other aspects of their lives.
I really believe Keanu Reeves was very good at servicing. Check his bank account, you'll see.
R109 R104 he's notoriously close about his personal life but anyone who knows him knows he's not gay. It's sad, but there it is - we all have to live with it.
His wife is pregnant with their second child, and although they're not often papped together that would be more to do with him being private rather than anything else. He isn't usually photographed unless it's a promotional event or something like that. He had no need to marry as a PR event, he's one of the most popular actors in the UK as well as one of the most powerful, he would have no problem being out if he was gay. It's not a big deal in the UK, lots of actors are publicly out and it hasn't hurt their careers, just ask Sir Derek Jacobi or Sir Ian McKellern, it seems to be the US that has a problem.
R111, Racina has always denied there was anything going on. No one has ever suggested the contrary. He may have secretly longed for Brad as a twink but nothing happened. And why would it? It didn't take Brad that long to start making it incrementally up the ladder and really, except for a vague chance for a bit part in a soap opera, what could Racina have given Brad?
There is, however, a rabid female poster who posts at a number of gossip sites all kinds of ridiculous things about Brad and Angelina and this thing about Racina is her favorite thing to post about Brad and link all over the net.
I feel fairly confident that if there was anything like this about someone as famous as Brad Pitt it would have leaked out somehow.
Now as your penance for this post those pics of Brad's lovely ass and member.
R121, his second child was actually born a couple of months ago - his wife's posted pics of the baby on her FB, but the press haven't reported it. Surprised you hadn't heard about the birth.
By pr I didn't mean to get pr from the marriage, but to avoid negative pr from getting a much younger woman pregnant outside of a serious relationship. Her dad constantly talks about them to the press and would have absolutely destroyed him in the tabloids.
Not posing for pics is one thing, but making your wife walk 20 feet behind you and enter places separately, or walking out on and getting upset when interviewers so much as mention your wife casually is a bit excessive, especially when she's posting half-naked pics of you on a public website and trolling fans. It's a weird disconnect.
I don't think he is gay, of course he's not gay of he's knocking up younger girls, but lots of things he's said made me think he may have bi leanings.
Matt and Ben, Matt and Ben, Matt and Ben.
[quote]It's not a big deal in the UK, lots of actors are publicly out and it hasn't hurt their careers, just ask Sir Derek Jacobi or Sir Ian McKellen, it seems to be the US that has a problem.
Ian McKellen isn't a very good example. If he came out as a young man that would have meaning for what you're trying to put across. He came out in his 50th year - a half century in the closet.
R122 you're naive and don't know how Hollyweird works if you think that Racina and Pitt never had sex, or that Pitt is actually hetero.
Strange that Brad Pitt would never contact his former landlord/employer/friend, unless he wants to keep his prior relationship completely under the radar. I still remember the ET interview with Racina years ago. I don't believe the association was strictly platonic either.
No, R24 that Dcota twink was nothing like Arnold's Dakota. Dcita probably wasn't born when Dakota was a porn star.
Dear god some posters here are ridiculous. Of course Pitt is hetero. That has nothing to do with whether or not he would have been willing to sleep with Racina back when he was desperate and had nothing else and no way to pay rent.
And of course Racina would say that him and Pitt never did anything. Are you an idiot?
I have no idea what transpired (though I assume Pitt did put out because duh, and because it explains why he doesn't want to talk to him), but regardless of what happened Racina isn't mean or dumb enough to just air out the dirty laundry.
[quote]Of course Pitt is hetero.
Do you get paid to post things like this?
Pitt's landscape architect
It's not like Pitt would talk about this. Middle America would pretend they didn't understand...we are talking major hypocrites in the Midwest.
I kinda assumed R Wagner. Although good looking, he doesn't have much...talent?
Judging from some vintage pics, he appears to have quite a bulge. Anyone know if he is hung?
R65 I stated when I wrote my very first post here that all my stories were from the life I lived until 10 years ago when I "retired" from public life. So, DUH, yes my stuff is old. I never talk about anything happening in the present era. That would seem to shoot down the theory of a few that I am full of shit and making my anecdotes up. If that were the case, why on earth would I not write relevant and timely stories? If I am pulling things out of my ass, I would certainly be able to weave a more current tale or two.
As for being rehashed, that occurs when someone asks me about something I have already covered. Not everyone here reads every post every day. I try to be flexible and join in, even though there will always be haters like you who simply are above it all.
Truth be told, you are so transparently envious that you have not been privy to glamorous escapades with the R & F that the best you can do is pee on the parade of those who have been.
swf, some people who don't like you aren't jealous at all. But think what you like.
You are right, R136.
R136, I've learned the hard way that there are those on DL that will dis anyone, and especially females posting. Best to focus on those of us who really appreciate your info. Thanks for your contributions.
Any info on Lee Majors? Some claim he was a "friend" of Rock Hudson. Some sources don't mention any connection to Rock. Did Lee or didn't he?
Yeah, I'm curious about the Rock Hudson/Lee Major gossip.
Didn't Brad say he doesn't have a lot of friends? I think he's one of those people with a small inner circle. I don't keep in touch with a lot of people from my past either. That doesn't mean a slept with any of them.
Drug addicts usually prefer to be by themselves.
Bobby Sherman 'serviced' Sal Mineo early in his career. Sal got him on the music series Shindig! Mineo's girlfriend actress Jill Haworth walked in on Sal fucking Sherman. It broke them up and from that time on Sal was out.
You can read all about it in Michael Michaud's bio SAL MINEO.
Jack Scalia serviced Rock Hudson.
Sometimes I think all actors are gay.
why is no one saying jensen ackles? i mean come on, he said himself in an interview that he got a job his first day out in LA. now the guy is pretty damn talented, definitely one hell of an actor, but he's also pretty damn pretty and was the twinkiest of all the twinks so no one can tell me that something didn't happen when he first came out to LA O_o
Actually R147 many are gay but a lot are bisexual.
Steve Jobs was gay and died of AIDS.
Any thoughts or info on Robert Wagner? Any of the other hunks?
Does anyone know what went on between Mike Myers & J Timberlake?
Adam Lambert, Timberlake, and Bieber.
Gaycrest but everyone knows he was Merv's butt boy.
[quote]why is no one saying jensen ackles? i mean come on, he said himself in an interview that he got a job his first day out in LA. now the guy is pretty damn talented, definitely one hell of an actor,
His acting ability didn't show up until several years later.