IT'S OVER! Alleged drug video of Toronto Mayor Rob Ford GONE!
Seller of the video has told Gawker the video is GONE!
It is OVER! Rob Ford has gotten away with it, again.
shocking. no, really.
Mayor Ford is just going to have to smoke his crack in the sanctity of his home from now on, I am opining.
Ford probably bought the video.
I predict he'll go out partying to celebrate this victory, get behind the wheel blind drunk, and crash.
R5, Ford probably ATE the video.
This is where the dealer was brilliant. He approached the papers with the evidence and let three different witnesses view the video and vouch for its authenticity. If he'd gone to Ford directly and made any insinuation about money, he could have been prosecuted for blackmail. This is where the middle-men, dupe journalists were indispensible to getting Ford's backers' money (which undoubtedly surpassed $200K) without concern about criminal liability. If Ford's people approached them with an offer, well, it's just a business transaction, isn't it? Even if there was a negotiation, if Ford's people approached first, no problem for the dealer. (aside from having to look over his shoulder from no on)
yeah, that's it. He ate the video.
Now he can run for PM!
maybe they just threatened him and he didn't get any money
They also probably had the dealer sign an agreement that no other copies exist. And if one does surface, they would have to give back the money, plus a multimillion dollar penalty.
No wonder Ford was quiet for a whole week. They were probably in negotiations that week he was silent.
I wouldn't say it's over yet...(but Ford probably did buy the video.) If there are other copies, it's likely to surface eventually. Also, as of last week, there are five disgruntled ex-employees who are likely to get talkative.
Can you imagine if this had involved the mayor of a major U.S. city? S/he'd have resigned by now.
In this digital day and age, there HAVE to be other copies. What drug dealing extortionist is so honourable as to delete his majn moneymaker? Either it comes out eventually or Ford gets bled every time the guy(s) need a few bucks. Ford's a disgrace.
What if he ate all the copies, all the extortionists and all the drug dealers?
R14 they could make him sign a document subjecting him to a multimillion dollar penalty if another copy sees the light or day.
Conservatives are teflon in Canada. This is part of the reason they won't lose power. The corruption runs deep, the Left is in shambles, people don't vote, and most of the public is swinging to the Right if they haven't already done so. One big cluster-fuck.
I agree, R17. It's depressing and gross.
Wait until the votes suddenly go missing.
Politics is cyclical; that is nothing new. Nationally, the pendulum is swinging back towards the Liberal party.
And Ford is the opposite of teflon. He drags his scandals around with him like a chain of pots and pans.
It's not over yet. Interesting that the Toronto Star has gone quiet about this tonight. Perhaps readying a story for tomorrow?:
[quote]Mr. Cook wrote that the intermediary’s conversation with the alleged owner was short. “Gone” could mean the alleged video was destroyed, handed over to Mr. Ford, seized by police, given to someone else for safekeeping or just that the alleged owners are lying, Mr. Cook wrote.
He said Gawker’s intermediary also claimed a copy of the alleged video exists and is being held for safekeeping outside of Toronto. Mr. Cook said it is unclear if the alleged copy is also gone.
Meanwhile, the editor-in-chief of The Toronto Star was suggesting in interviews on Monday that the alleged video may soon appear.
“[T]he video is slowly making its way to daylight, and when that happens, we’ll all be better off,” Mr. Cooke told The Province, a Postmedia newspaper in Vancouver. Two Star reporters have said they have seen the alleged video.
[quote]Politics is cyclical; that is nothing new. Nationally, the pendulum is swinging back towards the Liberal party.
Um, no, hon. The pendulum has just begun to swing towards the Right. It had swung to the left and stayed there for years. Those days are done, at least for the rest of 2010s. Canada is a becoming the United States circa-2000s.
The Conservatives have everything locked up. They are too corrupt, and too powerful to be taken down. Average Canadians have gotten used to this government. Even the ones that act pissed, will gladly miss election day like they always do. Then you have the splitting of the vote. Busing in more and more immigrants is just going to make Conservative victories even more likely. Why do you think all of the Right isn't screaming from the rooftops about letting darkie in? They know how they game is played now. Murdoch is now propagandizing the masses. The Neocons who were running the show in the US under the Bush administration are now in Canada. They sent the US down the drain, and now they're looking to do the same in Canada.
It is going to get really ugly in Canada before it gets better, and nominating Trudeau speaks volumes to the middle-of-the-road voter: the Left is out-of-touch, not serious about leading. Nominating a trust fund baby, who puts his foot in his mouth every ten seconds, makes the Left look really incompetent and tone deaf. Conservatives have way more money than the Left and Trudeau specifically, which is why it takes him so long to respond with ads. The Right is funneling money in by the truckloads from the US. It's frightening.
I won't be shocked when Harper is given another round to destroy Canada the day after election night.
I'm waiting for the sex tape. I love me some big chubby stoned Daddies.
You are incorrect, R27. Politics in Canada run in 7 year cycles: Harper got his first minority government in 2006. His clock is ticking down. If he's lucky, he may squeak out one last minority government but he may decide to retire and go out on top. When he does retire, he'll leave a mess because he's too much of a control freak to have allowed any natural successor to emerge.
You are also incorrect that Canada even remotely resembles the United States in the mid-2000's. In policy terms, Harper is still well to the left of the Democratic party of that period. Abortion remains legal and accessible across the country. Gay marriage is nearing its 10 year anniversary. Neither of these issues generate 1/10th the controversy that they still do in the United States.
Canada's equivalent to Fox news, Sun news, is watched by fewer than 10 000 people and is likely to lose its channel.
Your remarks on Trudeau make me suspect you are, in fact, a disappointed conservative. Further disappointments await you.
Robyn Doolittle said in a radio interview last week that there were at least three copies of the video. Two in the city and one outside.
My guess is there are several people who have copies on their computers. If it was made with an iPhone it's easy enough to email and make copies.
One of Ford's new hires at City Hall works at his mother's hair salon. Haven't met a salon lady yet who wasn't a gossip - hopefully she'll leak lots of dish.
Sadly, R25 is 100% correct.
Just curious, what province do you live in, R25?
... or it never existed.
So they've identified the crack house where Ford's picture was taken and near the apartment building where the video was apparently made. It's a rundown dump in an otherwise nice neighbouhood. The neighbours have been complaining about it for years and it has a rep as a crack house. Lots of foot traffic flowing from the apartments behind it to that house.
Ford knows the family that owns the house and went to highschool with one of the kids who still lives there (all three grown children still live there!!!). He was a frequent visitor to the house, apparently.
And the plot thickens. This is a must-read, as one commenter says its like the "reveal" at the end of a murder mystery movie.
I'm still waiting for that George W Bush orgy tape to surface.
My sources say it will be any day now!
r25, I don't think your taking into account the Liberal's self-implosion. The Ignatieff and Dion disasters took a huge toll on the party.
Trudeau is a light-weight interim leader until they can find someone decent.
I assume one copy is in Calgary because of the Somali connection.
If so, this is not over.
The Liberals used to be savvy about how to retain power and win elections. That fact that Stephane Dion was chosen showed that the people who wanted power had moved on (to Harper?). Anyone who knew anything about Quebec politics knew that Dion was disliked and not trusted in Quebec (by French Candadians). In addition, his inability to speak English clearly would make him a tough sell in the rest of Canada. People that wanted to win would not haven chosen him as leader. Likewise with Ignatieff, he may be well-connected but it wasn't the connections of day to day political power in Canada. And Canada by that point had devolved into a country that was afraid of/not interested in intellectuals, even more so than 30-40 years ago. It was easy for Harper to finish him off with his propaganda ads, before the election was even called.
Trudeau is a light-weight interim leader until they can find someone decent"
Isn't that what they thought about Dion? And Ignatieff? These "interim leader" types can't win elections.
The closest to the old-fashioned Liberal types is Thomas Muclair. It's ok, the NDP got rid of the word "socialism" from their party constitution at their last convention. So that is what is left of an opposition in Canada.
The Liberals stopped being the 1970s Liberals (with an obvious different economic outlook from the Conservatives) a long time ago. The economic policies of Mulroney-Chretien-Martin were basically the same. Justin Trudeau has not been clear about how his policies would be different from Harper`s.
Rob Ford knew men in photo, Toronto police sources say
Ford was nuts today, pitching fits in council, insulting people. I think he knows the end is nigh.
So someone at the Toronto PD has leaked word that Rob Ford's name comes up frequently in the wiretaps they used on the dealers. There is also a reference about the video on the wiretap tapes made a full two weeks before the Gawker and Star reporters.
Yay, arrest him!
r50, unfortunately, unless they're tapping Ford himself, it won't be admissible.
Great job, LEOs. It only took you 30 fucking years to deal with Dixon at that level.