- I have always thought Leo was at the very least bi and after seeing "Gatsby" I'm convinced of it. Of course, I don't believe all those models were beards. However, I believe most actors and actresses are bi...It's a creative field so why shouldn't their sexual lives also be creative and experimental?
- R1, I'm still confused at the difference between sexual experimentation with the opposite sex and being bi.
- I think natural attraction to either sex is bisexual. Many actors are bisexual and I think it's partially because they are in a field that is creative and experimental and accepting and also nurturing. They are not hung up with labels and stereotypes which make it easier to recognize that attraction and act upon it.
- R3, So what determines if an actor goes for a male or female for his next orgasm?
- Most actors are narcissists. Why limit yourself to being adored by only half of the population?
- R2 I think there is genuine experimentation...and then genuine innate sexual arousal/attraction to both men and women. I think a hell of a lot of people are scared of the true nature of their own sexuality, and they try to hold on to every last ounce of supposed heterosexuality they think they have, so they pass it off as "experimentation"...which is why that has now become bastardized in a way. After a while, you know what you want and what you like, and what you keep coming back for.
As for actors/singers/artists...I think there is a hell of a lot more bisexuality in those industries than anyone of them will ever admit to.
I remember reading Dolce and Gabanna saying that if they told everyone how many gay and bi people there really are in show business, they'd be out of work in a month.
- This isn't a therapy thread about the inner workings of sexual experimentation. Someone post something good instead of these Maryellas and their opinions and questions about sexuality!
- Since there are non-stop arguments on the last 2 threads about whether a celeb is gay or bi or experimenting, what's wrong with taking a second to clarify the terms?
- I'm with R7, This this thread is starting to get derailed with the usual guessing game argument, is he? or isn't he? Would you fags get back to the original topic OP intended this to be?!!!!
- According to all of these threads combined, there is no such thing as a straight Hollywood actor/actress. They're all GAY!
End of story.
- ok, end of derailing, back to:
Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge
- The closest I have to any reliable info is a friend of a friend of mine was hit on by Joan Jett. But Joan's out so this really isn't news.
- Did Jorja Fox ever come out?
- I'm still on Rhett Butler being gay. Poster just nonchalantly threw that in there.
- R14 Scarlett was a beard. It was really Rhett who loved Ashley. Melanie knew all about it. She did not care because Dr. Mead said she could not risk getting pregnant again after little Beau.
- Not really news, since he's out now, but:
Back in the day, my ex was a hustler. One of his clients was Nathan Lane. Just once. I think they met at Rounds in NYC.
- Before I post, just how anonymous is this message board? I don't want to get sued.
- Very anonymous, R17. Feel free to spill---some of us have been doing it for years!
- I've shared some first-hand info R17.
Whenever I've felt uncomfortable about it being discovered I've only used the actors first name or last name if its common, and some kind of reference to specify its them.
That way if they or a family member/pr team google their name and see what's up.
- R14 actually Rhett was bisexual but this is old info. Some guy actually wrote a book about it which you can find on amazon.
- A certain TV host on a talent show from the UK who is known for being bitchy, cunty, and mean is gay.
Also a co-host on that same TV show who has hosted a TV awards ceremony is gay but he used to hang out with that queen Merv Griffin and was kept by him. OK yeah now I need to go vomit after thinking about that.
- A former child star who was left home alone and who now has a major opiate/heroin problem is gay but yeah it's kinda obvious. Even my mom who is in her 70s saw him years ago on some late night TV show either Leno or Letterman and he was talking about his "wife" and my mom said to me, "He's gay even if he married a woman that's not going to change that or make it less obvious he's closeted."
- to continue r22. It has been said that the child star is not home alone anymore but in Paris, where he is fucking his roommate - a rock star whose life is in a bit of a Shambles. The rockstar, a known Libertine, used to date models, but you never know...
- Okay, so you are absolutely sure that my ISP address can't be traced from my post? What about by DL staff or mods, if they were pressured to provide that info. Gotta be sure here.
- Elijah Wood always seemed gaaayyyy as hell. I remember seeing him on Punk'd and couldn't believe how gay he seemed.
- I think the worst that could happen is that the site takes this thread down if you post something that might cause a fuss. I'm not sure anyone would be able issue a subpoena to find a particular poster. Can someone else confirm?
- Why don't you just post from a library or from a Starbucks place?
- R25 Do have the photos of Jensen Ackles canoodling on the beach with a dude circa 2002? Or much bigger fish? Either way I don't think you should worry. The mods will just delete it mysteriously if too iffy.
- r17-r25: no one here can see who you are except the webmaster, who can see your IP if needed.
And if you wish complete anonymity even from the WM take the extra step of posting from a public wireless connection with an auto roaming-dynamic IP, such as Starbucks or (if you can stomach it), McDonalds. These networks mask or roam your IP address so that there’s no geographic location linked to your connection. Please note if you do choose to use public wireless, make sure your anti-virus and malware is updated and active and the firewall on your device/laptop turned on as well- this will protect you from any potential hackers on the public network.
Or post from your local public library where most internet usage is free and unlogged these days.
- Odd how some of you are SOOOO obsessed with celebrity sexuality.
- should add that the public network should be a corporate network such as that at large chains like Starbucks and McD's which have huge networks. Your small locally owned coffee shop down the street probably has it's own local network with a fixed IP that's fixed to that location.
- Great info there btw. I'm always at wi-fi cafes and it's handy to know the IP address is anon.
- R31 Then why are you at Datalounge. Once again, it never fails..someone complaining about gossip in a gossip thread. The PR teams are out tonight.
- r33 not in all cafes, just some. As mentioned the larger chains are the most anon.
when in doubt once connected at a public spot go to the link below to see where they have you located. There are other sites that also do this, google "where is my IP".
Hope I'm not pissing off the WM with this but we need dish here. If you use it to come here to make trouble (troll) your posts or the thread will get deleted anyway.
- R25 post from a public place as others suggested, you'll be fine.
- john stamos - he likes to bottom
- christian leblanc from y&r is gay and likes rough sex.
- Why not just use an online anonymizer service?
- People definitely use open wi-fi to post stuff they don't want under their own IP, pretty obvious innit. I remember when I was at the McDonalds in New York in 2006 they had an internet cafe kinda set up where there was public computers. That sort of thing is now on its way out of course.
I do like the what is my ip thing. I've done edits on wikipedia before and noticed mine was a shared IP and I was accused of vandalism, as I was using a temporary "dongle" as they're known in the UK - a usb stick that gives you internet. AOL famously had a proxy system of shared IPs. Knowing the big chains like McDonalds do this was very interesting.
Anyway enough tech chat and back on topic...
- OMFG First its about sexual behaviors of celebs in hollywood and the psychology behind it. Then peoples subjective opinions, now this thread is about how to post without being traced....
- r42 handy information to know if we want, you know, GOSSIP. Or do you want more posts about vaginas?
OK now you know how to post stuff without being traced - GO!
Post your stuff. Now.
- OMFG maybe r17 is Toothy Tile's nanny!
- Back about 12 years ago, when the Century Plaza Hotel was still a hot place to stay in LA (and was still standing), Alicia Keys had to be warned by hotel management to be more discreet in her lady-lovin' adventures.
According to my source, she was giving the room service attendant a very uninhibited view of her naked shenanigans with not one but two hot young misses, and the hotel employee complained.
She's playing house with Swiss Beatz (sp?) and has a kid these days, but back then, this Girl on Girl on Girl was on Fire!
- i been VIP services for big labels/tours. I fucking seen everything and alotta this shit ain't sexy.
Chris Brown is gay gay gay
The Rihanna show is all show. Rihanna ain't no shybi she loves them fans if they got the badonka and pussy juice. She will get down with womynz in front of everydambody, she love the bitches of every color as long as they body slammin'. Ain't eva seen this bitch show real interest in a man but we all kno she gonna marry that ladyboy Chris or find another man to front with. backstage it all about fuckin women tho.
Chris wannna put the image that he all that. Bitch is a bottom and fay as the sunset is pink. He fucked Martyn and other producers. If physical action go down like a beating this fucker uses security toughs he don't ever get his fucking hands dirty. Bitch could be beaten on by a girl scout.
Britney Spears ain't ever been hot. this one is like a fuckin pig laying in mess. she eats all the dam time and wont shower. Biggest bitch i ever met always got something nasty to say or lookin to fuck for attention. she another pussy eater throu and throu. i knew her assistent girlfriend Shannon funnk. she was brit's real partner.
Kanye is another hardcore bro that has a limp wrist off stage. he like pretty white men. if he ever put his dikk in Kardashian I be shocked.
Kim has a fuckin huge team she go every place with. sometimes they sneak her gf in. her name is Sherri littleton, she an ex porn girl. don't think Kim is gay but she has to get off some where and she always seem to hook up with brothas on the low. better to have a woman to serv her that way peeps wont ask why she hangin to close to some other man during her contract.
Miley Cyrus is a dyke. She ain't bi. I been sent on pussy runs for this bitch. She into eatin out young hot strippers after they put on show. Bitch don't call on no fan she want the sex vets that she can pay for that puss play. never shuts her fuckin mouth about how fukkin hot Rihanna is. if they havnt fukked they will.
- Are all VIP tour service people ignorant?
- i seen all that shit r47. don't fukkin mouth bout shit you aint in on.
i got other names i could spill on depends on if this place care.
- I believe R46. Post more!
- R46, Love your style of writing, real down and dirty, and I believe you too. Ignore R47, he be real green.
- Stand down haters.
Shit just got real
- This just heated up QUICK!
- "According to my source, she was giving the room service attendant a very uninhibited view of her naked shenanigans with not one but two hot young misses, and the hotel employee complained."
She has always pinged for me. She's about as fem as Jada Pinkett Smith.
- love your info R46! Keep posting! Is it true that Q-tip from tribe is bi and that he and Leo had a thing? What about other rap and hip hop artists? Is it true that 50 cent is gay or DMX?
- I have some feeling about cutting and pasting.
- Just so you know, OP is R4, R8 etc. who has been the one derailing the threads. Parts 1 and 2, among others including the whores at Cannes. I believe her 'name' is [...]-[...], who is, by all accounts, insane.
She'll continue her quest, no doubt.
Troll-dar is your friend.
- Oh dear, I was using the name she originally used on DL. Wasn't outing her real name but it's the same 'nick' she's used on other sites. Quite annoying and delusional.
- Any knowledge about sports celebs?
- r46. A lot of your post came off as an opinion. That whole Martyn producer thing is a popular rumor. So unless you got specifics of things that you actually saw with an accompanying story, meh back of the bus. That whole thing you have wrote about Chris and Rhi is common gossip I can find anywhere, So you got a specific story to break down your subjective opinion... Spill it boo!+
- Webmaster, I've asked you before to permanently
delete R56 for violating DL rules. On the advice of the police, I have a restraining order against this poster. He's been repeatedly arrested for harassing girls, 86'd from many establishments, and on police watch lists for his non-stop, violent threats to Democratic politicians.
- R59, Please don't dis another poster for spilling what he knows. Otherwise no one will post good gossip.
- I also like r46's slang ebonic style, anyone who knows the internet would be familiar with it. It's real easy to read as well. And he gives good dish!
God why do you have to shit on people who provide the goss, no wonder people don't post the good stuff.
Alicia Keys and Chris Brown I always knew about - the first is a given, the second I thought so before RiRi then that Martyn stuff, Miley has embraced her inner dyke recently.
I wonder about Pink, another one who gets called gay all the time even though she technically is on the record as being straight. Yeah right.
- "Webmaster, I've asked you before to permanently delete [R56] for violating DL rules. On the advice of the police, I have a restraining order against this poster. He's been repeatedly arrested for harassing girls, 86'd from many establishments, and on police watch lists for his non-stop, violent threats to Democratic politicians."
R60 et al, you are fucking insane.
Nothing above is true. No restraining order, no arrests, never '86'd' (love that) from anywhere or anything but 'violent threats to Democratic (capital D!) takes the cake.
I am a democrat, you stupid shit.
You are delusional, as I said. I only know you from one other site and you irritated, as you do, everyone.
Troll-dar is a feature on DL for good reason. You are the one derailing the threads, as some have complained about, with your incessant bullshit.
- That would be...
'violent threats to Democratic politicians' takes the cake.
People, use your Troll-dar.
- Thanks, r43. Sorry to disappoint, r44, but I am not TTs grandmother!
- My hairdresser said he has a friend who will swear that Richard Simmons is gay. It's true.
- r46 reminds of the great and missed "Shobe" who used to post here.
Keep posting r46 we got your back
- Sorry R46, Miley is not a dyke. Or if she is, she's an odd one that likes to suck male model dick. Doubtful about Kim K., too. Everything else rings true, though.
- Wait. I recognize r46s story. Last time it was with Gillian Anderson. Same scenario, same detail but different hotel.
Shit, I know I read that exact same thing somewhere recently. Does it seem familiar to anyone else?
- Do the Gillian Anderson trolls ever stop? Someone mentions the price for toilet paper at Ralph's and somehow one of these retards makes a connection to Dearest Gillian.
News flash, moron: celebrities hookup in hotels all the time and are often indiscreet around staff. I feel like I'm explaining the ways of the world to someone from Victorian times.
Celebs on the DL fucking in front of staff is called "Wednesday" in Hollywood.
- Oh shut up with your hall monitor shit r70. If someone can call bullshit on a story, why not? Stop trying to control this thread already.
- Oprah is gay and love the white girls. There was never anything between Oprah and Gayle because Gayle is not her type.
- I'm fine with people calling bullshit on a story. When they have good reason.
R69 does not fit that criteria. It appears to be another one of Anderson's god-awful fans trolling this site, thinking that anything written about Gillian's licky-lick schtick has to be attacked. Reality can be a real bitch for these bitches.
Celebrity hotel sex is as common as rain in Seattle, so why would two of those stories in one of these threads be outlandish? Celebrities love to use hotels for their vices.
"Stop trying to control this thread already."
That was my first post in this thread. What are you talking about, r71?
- R73, you are so very wrong about most celebrities "fucking in the open" in front of hotel-staff that I don't know if it's funny or sad. Most gay celebrities are very, very discreet (John Travolta aside); especially in this day and age of cellphones and Twitter. Your idea that this is common is frankly bizarre.
- Totally agree with R74. In my experience closeted celebs do the exact opposite of "fucking in the open".
- This thread of full of stupid and crazy.
- What experience would that be, R74/R75? I'm betting a big, fat zero for both of you.
Fucking in the open for stars is usually in front of staff, and the better hotels that serve the stars are not going to allow them to take their cellphones in and get the perfect shot. If you think that it's hard to find closeted celebs fucking in hotels then I don't think you have a lick of experience around LA or NY.
Just who is this phoniness meant to protect, R74/R7%?
- R74 is so right! And so is R74! And R71 just owned. And congrats on knowing that Alicia and I are loving hetero partners, 100%, r69!
Vagina? I'm in love with Ryan Gossling's COCK. Keep the vagina away from me.
- When Jodie took me with the strap-on I said "remember, you're the man". And I always get up to watch sports on the telly after fucking Elisha Jade. I don't think my life could be more vanilla hetero.
The only thing bi about me is my ridiculous accent!
- If Chris Brown is gay, then why the beating of Rihanna? Why did a bearding situation turn violent?
- Game of Thrones is the current IT show, yet there are neither scandals, nor a little bit tamer gossips surrounding the cast. Have we moved from 'they are starring in the same show, they must be fucking' mentality?
P.S. Emilia Clarke is a major social climber. Watch her dating a B-list actor in future. Maybe even bearding for an A-list star if she is lucky.
- Definitely Chris Brown is not gay but, obviously, there are trolls on DL who succeed in muddyng the waters.
- The Chris Brown rumors are not Rumors - Martyn posted DM tweets from Brown where he acknowledged that Martyn "fucked him real good" and other msgs.
Yet again, we can believe in the sky fairy known as Jesus with NO PROOF but pics of guys kissing each other, actual text messages indicating your love of dick, and on an on, are not enough to convince even the gays that some celebrity may be gay.
This is how badly closeted Hollywood is.
OUT. THEM. ALL.
- R69 can't be a Gillian Anderson fan; they would never admit that r45 's story (about Alicia Keys cavorting with two girls in her hotel suite, in front of staff) could equally apply to Dearest Gillian.
Ironically enough, a threesome story is NOT something I've heard about GA; the hotel rumors are that she fucked Alex Kingston so hard with a strap-on that the other guests were disturbed by AK's orgasmic screams and/or that the staff walked in on Kingston face down on the bed and Gillian naked but for an open robe and said strappy, ready to take Alex to heaven. But no threesome talk that I recall.
r46 , please post more. I'd known of Rhianna/Britney/Kim/Miley all liking the girls but that's the first I've read of Miley being obsessed with Rhi. Seems like a match made in slutty heaven, though.
And while I by chris brown as gay, rhianna as liking pussy way more than dick, and the beating not indicative of their true relationship, I wonder what this makes Matt Kemp, Rhianna's bf when she wasn't with Chris. Is he on the DL as well? A paid beard? (Wow, the Dodgers must be really hard up if he needed the extra $$$…) Egotistical enough to think he could "straighten her out"? Or so dumb he didn't even know about Rhi's love of Melissa Forde's clam? Which was it? Just wondering.
- Or have the actual pictures of Chris fucking Andre Merritt in the ass, and people are still going "Photoshopped!". Despite Andre himself posting a video talking about how he and Chris aren't 'gay", they were just "fucking around".
So, two men have sex, pictures are taken, and one man posts a video talking about it. But people—even gays!—still deny it. What a world.
- Chris Brown even "borrowed" Andre's entire song for "Turn Up the Music". Why isn't he being sued???
Look, I know guys like them. They believe they're not gay, they're just getting "freaky" and the hangers-on who get paid lots of $ keep telling them they're not because "you fucked that chick last night, you know the one with the big tits".
- leaked twitter pic of C Brown back in 2006 before he added all the tattoos.
- If it's true about Chastain and Megan Ellison and Chastain and that Italian guy, then she's bi right?
- R89 More likely than gay.
- About a year or so ago I was in Grand Central sitting in a train about 10 minutes before it was scheduled to depart. Anyone who has been on Metro-North knows every other car has a bathroom on it. Well there was a commotion when a woman started banging on the bathroom door after a long line formed (which isn't the norm on those trains especially off peak). First a youngish hot Latino guy with light eyes came out followed by a sheepish man in his 50s or 60s who giggled awkardly. Everyone knew what they were doing and just stared at them while they did the 'walk of shame' in opposite directions. Now the thing is I'm 80% sure the man was Sam Waterston from L&O.
- Well, today I happened to go to the West Hollywood Gelson's supermarket and what do ya know, but who else but Ryan Gosling was at the cereal aisle masturbating furiously with his dick out? And I was so shocked, I couldn't do a thing until who else joins but Joseph Gordon-Levitt, falling on his knees to take a full facial of Ryan Gosling's cumshot. I wanted to alert a Gelson's employee but just as I found one, I was interrupted by the sight of Sandra Bullock and Gillian Anderson, completely nude in the dairy section, lapping each other's pussies?!
I would have been confused, but then I realized, "This is Hollywood. Celebrities fucking in the open is as common as Monday afternoon."
- I love R92.
- Don't know if Tate Donovan is or isn't, but he's clearly moving into more "personal" projects now:
- This thread has been infested by people who think they are so edgy by nonchalantly dropping "queer" names that would elsewhere shock millions...that their common insanity gives them anything but edge.
- Didn't Tate Donovan used to date Jennifer Aniston?
- Hi I dont mean 2 be off topic and derail this thread but I was curious of any CELEBRITIES YOU KNOW TO BE GAY/BI FROM TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES OR FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE?????
- Yes, R96.
Tate Donavan also dated Sandra Bullock. It seems that every guy associated to Sandra Bullock is queer. Why doesn't she just come out?
- r97 EXACTLY!!!!
- LOL R79 I guess Gillian likes her women "Stone butch" and is a high femme! ;)
- Hey r46 who else has Kim been with that is gay?
- Garth Brooks is either bi or gay, but this has been written about before a lot just google "Big red".
Kenney Chesney is gay but yeah isn't it obvious, and yeah it's OLD news.
Brad Pitt is probably gay and deeply closeted.
- R72, you do not know that first hand or even from a trustworthy source. You read that on another messageboard.
- Brad Pitt is bisexual at the most. Can't exclude his life before Jen and Jolie.
- R104, Met a man who was Brad Pitt's frat bros. Said that Brad smoked more than anyone in the house, and as such had plenty of girls despite having one of the least enviable cars. Pitt's life and career goals changed when he flew to NY to get that print ad.
- r102 r103 r104 r105 Hi I dont mean 2 be off topic and derail this thread but I was curious of any CELEBRITIES YOU KNOW TO BE GAY/BI FROM TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES OR FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE?????
- Rachel McAdams was friends with a lot of lesbians in university, and still hangs out with lesbians now
- R106, OK, so I left off part 2 of my post. The frat bros said that it was very obvious how Brad got his NY ad, as he sent in shirtless pics. Brad even admitted that he had a wild time in NY with the casting people. They then suggested he go to LA and get hooked up. It was obviously not his first gay experience. There was a lot of homoerotic behavior at his frat as well, especially when some of the bros got very high and drunk together.
- R105 so is BP a top, bottom, vers, or oral sex only?
- [quote]Brad smoked more than anyone in the house, and as such had plenty of girls despite having one of the least enviable cars
Well, also, ... he looked like Brad Pitt. I'm willing to bet that got him more pussy than his smoking pot or having it.
- r38, her husband didn't seem queer though.
i don't know what to make of bullock tbh. maybe she's just cool and bi.
- No way Brad is gay. He might have slept with a few guys in his youth (doubt it), but all his relationships with famous actresses were true - yes, that includes Gwynnie's too.
- Agree with R112
- I am not sure what to make of Tate Donovan's performance in the trailers of that movie where he plays a gay father. Maybe the English accent hampers him?
- R110, Although my friend said that he was shorter than the average frat bro, he was very charming and polite to most girls. Maybe grass mellows him out. That makes a man much more attractive and desirable than just physical beauty alone.
- "Game of Thrones is the current IT show, yet there are neither scandals, nor a little bit tamer gossips surrounding the cast. Have we moved from 'they are starring in the same show, they must be fucking' mentality?
P.S. Emilia Clarke is a major social climber. Watch her dating a B-list actor in future. Maybe even bearding for an A-list star if she is lucky"
Speaking of Game of Thrones, anybody have any scoop on Lena Headey (Cersei)? I know she's been married before but she pings so hard it's not even funny.
- r116 r 114 GO AWAY... Tate Donovans accent in a movie? game of thrones? really? Fuck off!
Just in case you missed this...
Hi I dont mean 2 be off topic and derail this thread but I was curious of any CELEBRITIES YOU KNOW TO BE GAY/BI FROM TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES OR FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE?????
Hey didnt Ted C make a blind called Trent Spent I believe about doing things in Laguna with men while wifey stayed at home. I went to blind items exposed and the consensus that it was Pitt. hmm. Good interesting info either way.
Why does Brad messing with men discredit his relationships with women as being false? Trust me I know plenty of Men who can get it up and fuck women and men. It's not all beards and paid company and press. But I digress... More stories etc...
- r108, there's always homo-erotic stuff going on in frats. Hazing, for example. I heard some stories about what went on at the frat houses when I was in college. It sounded like something from a BDSM event.
- Watch this turn into a frat house hazing porn post in... 3... 2....1...
Hi I dont mean 2 be off topic and derail this thread but I was curious of any CELEBRITIES YOU KNOW TO BE GAY/BI FROM TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES OR FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE?????
- You need a hobby r121
- R121, you're tired and way more annoying than any one else. Please die already.
- This may be the most content-free thread I've ever seen on DL.
- Oracle is a champ, though.
- yep r126 thanks 2 bitches like r125 and above. My hobby is gossip, HENCE THIS BEING DATALOUNGE! You wanna talk about Game of Thrones, Life of frat bros, Tate Donovans acting ability... THEN FUCK OFF AND MAKE ANOTHER THREAD!
Grabs mic... clears throat!
Hi I dont mean 2 be off topic and derail this thread but I was curious of any CELEBRITIES YOU KNOW TO BE GAY/BI FROM TRUSTWORTHY SOURCES OR FIRSTHAND KNOWLEDGE?????
- You're destroying your own cause, R128/million others. Stop it.
- Here's two college guys ready to get hazed...now that you guys mentioned it! I don't mean to start it.
- Keanu Reeves is nothing but straight. He's only been with women.
- Chill out R121 etc. People already know what this thread is about based on the title and the last two. LOL Keanu isn't hetero at all but yeah that's old info.
- Tate Donovan was wonderful with Frances McDormand in 'Good People'. He is a great actor. Now Estelle Parsons didn't fare so well, neither did the mannered African-American actress who played Tate's wife. The bald headed dollar store owner was quite good.
- R22 Macaulay Culkin is openly living with Pete Doherty.
R112 If Brad Pitt is 100% straight, he has a funny way of showing it.
- R131 Reeves was with David Geffen. The last time I checked David has a pee pee and not a cunt!
- Martha Reeves was married to David GeffeEN??!?!?!?!
- R116 Lena's husband is a hairdresser. It is an unconventional marriage.She's probably bi.
Emilia is adorable. She definitely dated Seth from Family Guy for the exposure/money/fame element. What woman in her right mind wouldn't?
- Don Johnson was sharing an apartment with Sal Minio when Minio was killed. It made me wonder about Johnson.
- [R137] You WAS an unconventional marriage. They're divorced.
- Explain Brad Pitt and Eric Bana. I'm in the dark.
- Prince Charles-Gay. Prince Harry-Gay. Barry 0bama-gay, closeted, and in a marriage of convenience. Rahm Emanuel-gay and deeply closeted. Jay F. Kay-bisexual. George W. Bush-bisexual. Collin Farrell-bisexual. Jason Stratham-gay. Queen Latifah-lesbian. Robert Downey Jr.-bisexual. Hayden Christensen-gay. Zac Efron-gay. Matthew McConaughey-gay. Ryan Seacrest-gay. Pretty much a lot of people on Good Morning America like the black weather guy and Robin Roberts, and that twink guy that eventually did come out. Ellen Page-lesbian. John Mahoney, the father on Fraiser is gay but deeply closeted.
Oprah Winfrey-lesbian. Brad Pitt-gay. Simon Cowell-gay and yeah it's obvious. Justin Timberlake-gay. Lukas Haas-gay. Kristen Stewart-lesbian and it's very obvious. Peter Saarsgard-bisexual. Joe Manganiello-gay. Ex-Congressman Anthony Weiner-bisexual. Michael Bloomberg-gay and closeted. Barry Manilow-gay but should not be surprising at all. Brian Boitano-gay. Ian Thorpe-gay. Matt Lanter-gay. Jamie Fox-gay. Anthony Kiedis from the Red Hot Chili Peppers is bisexual.
Tom Hardy-bisexual. Rick Perry-gay.
- Pretty sure Princes Charles and Harry are not gay. You think Charles made up that tampon conversation with Camilla that was tapped? Who he was also having an affair with - why, if he's gay? It totally soured his relations with Diana. Also, all of those rumored affairs and hitting onto people like Barbra Streisand.
Prince Harry shows nothing except being into pussy and doesn't ping.
- Half of R141 list is wrong.
- Come on, anything new? This is getting a little boring now (although thanks anyway.) But we need something fresh and startling.
Others have posted how to share your gossip without being discovered. (See earlier entries.)
I thought this information would elicit juicier stuff but no.
Post. Your. Stuff. Please... and ignore the naysayers.
Some of us are waiting with bated breath.
- Okay I'll play. I know for a fact that one of the members of a current boy band is gay/bi. I know because I work in music, worked with the band on several occasions and at a recent event, was getting hit on hardcore by one of the members.
We went back to his hotel room and he blew me. I still have his number for a future hook up.
- George W bi? Where's the evidence?
- Is this actor Adam Kaufman, gay? He is a major stud! WOW! Here is the link.
- r145 would that be One Direction?
Louis or Harry?
- R145, if the middle name is E. post a smiley.
- In and among all this and people screaming at one another I have to say gossip hounds really should go back and read the gem that is r91.
- [quote][R145], if the middle name is E. post a smiley.
Scratch that, too obvious.
Anyway, you'll probably want to keep it discreet. Fair enough.
- R141 said:
"Jay F. Kay-bisexual."
I'm somehow hesitant to accept as gospel the assertion of JFK's bisexuality from somebody who thinks the former president's name was Jay F. Kay.
- I dunno, r141's list seems fine to me.
It's not as if, if you are bisexual you are out there ALL the time, maybe some of the encounters were very brief or one-offs in some cases?
Not saying I believe it implicitly but nobody named here would really make me raise an eyebrow with major surprise.
- You are welcome R150
- R 89&90 Chastain strikes me more like someone who isn't into sex anyways.
Blind items about her are very rare so her team is definitely protecting some information to get out....
- R142 You are absolutely right and the R141 list is either trolling, or a by-product of wishful thinking. If Harry was gay and closeted, he wouldn't risk British Royalty reputation by engaging in drunk hook ups and partying with half-naked chicks, but would just marry some girl from royal or privileged background and led boring married life for press. Everyone and their mother from UK knows Charles was crazy about Camilla.
JFK was addicted to sex and power he could get from dominating younger or famous women. There are no rumors he was into hooking up with his male staff or actors.
I used to believe Kristen was gay until she cheated on Rob (despite it being a showmance) with a married director.
Tom Hardy is definitely bi, though, and as I have heard - bottom.
- Tom Hardy, r156? Not FREDDAAAAY?!
- [quote]If Harry was gay and closeted, he wouldn't risk British Royalty reputation by engaging in drunk hook ups and partying with half-naked chicks, but would just marry some girl from royal or privileged background and led boring married life for press.
I don't know. The way that was spun...there was a lot of drunken revelry and the half-naked chicks dosn't necessarily mean he had sex with them. There may be a lot more to that story that didn't get out for all we know. I think I'd be more surprised if hadn't have dabbled.
Have always thought Tom Hardy was bi. Does anyone remember that post that appeared on Towleroad from an alleged hookup who remembered him fondly. Either a great fiction writer or it happened.
- More likely it happened.
- I lean to that too, r159.
Around that time Tom went on a total public rant about how not into the peen he was.
- Any knowledge about guys in sports management (coaches, managers, etc)?
- Mariah's song "We Belong Together" was about Da Brat.
- R161, there's a nice post about 'The Special One' (if you follow Euro soccer/football) on the Celebs That Have Cruised You thread. >>>>
- PS: post 276.
- George "Lips" Bush
- R141 Your list is filled with tons of misses.Prince Charles-He wanted to eat Camilla's tampon so that makes him gay?!. Prince Harry:Partying with naked sluts BUT he is so gay!. Barry 0bama-Suppusedly he went to gay bars in Chicago so I buy that. Oh and Michelle looks like a drag queen from hell!. Rahm Emanuel. Maybe be bi. He was a ballerino and that field attracts family. Jay F. Kay The Jamiroquai singer? Maybe...The US president...no fucking way he was straight. George W. Bush-I knew someone who knew him, he liked and still likes pussy. I call BS on this one. Collin Farrell-He's been sucked off by guys so he bi-curious at the least. Jason Stratham-He likes girls as well as guys so he's bi. Queen Latifah-She's fucked guys admitted to sleeping with an Italian guy.Even still she's a dyke. Robert Downey Jr.He prefers women. Hayden Christensen-He bedded a famous Hollywood person to get a role. The person in question was male.. Zac Efron-I find him to be a pretty little thing and immensely boring. I hope he's straight. Matthew McConaughey-He's bi. He likes girls and his wife is no beard. Ryan Seacrest-I don't think he fucked Julianne Hough which in itself makes him gay because she is so fabulous looking. Pretty much a lot of people on Good Morning America like the black weather guy and Robin Roberts, and that twink guy that eventually did come out. Ellen Page-Really? I'm shocked? She basically has lesbian wrtten all over her face! John Mahoney,you got another one right BUT even a broken clock is right two times a day! Oprah Winfrey-more aseual then gay. Brad Pitt-he's bi. Simon Cowell-gay and yeah it's obvious. Justin Timberlake-he's also bi. Lukas Haas-he's so gay he makes Liberace look straight!. Kristen Stewart-she's bi at least. She fucked up a marriage by fucking a husband....no gay woman would ever do that.. Peter Saarsgard-bisexual. Joe Manganiello-Wishful thinking he might be bi ,who has he been linked to?. Ex-Congressman Anthony Weiner-Weiner showed his cock to a million women But he's bi?Unbelievable.... Michael Bloomberg-he's an asshole but I haven't heard gay. The rest of your list is filled with almost no brainers..... except for Perry. Perry has been accused of being gay but who has been linked to him?Barry Manilow-quenier than Valentino. Even Helen Keller knew he was gay,darling. Brian Boitano-has gayface Ian Thorpe-gay. Matt Lanter-gay. Jamie Fox-he has fucked girls but prefers gays. Anthony Kiedis He likes kissing his band mates. Tom Hardy-admitted to liking peen. Rick Perry-the straights can keep him.
- r166's run-on post is annoying but I actually agree with most of it.
- r166, paragraphs are your friend. Interesting post, I agree.
- Actually, Prince Charles, eventually King of England expressed his royal desire to BE the Tampon within Camilla. Yeah, thats the kind of guy I want to run MY country!
- [quote]There are no rumors he was into hooking up with his male staff or actors.
Not true. There have been rumors for many decades about JFK. One of the earliest tales was about the time he was recovering from an operation (prior to marriage) and moved onto the yacht of his friend, who had hired gay male nurses and already had a gay yacht crew for their wanderings during his recovery. One of JFK's best friends also was part of the recovery cruise. Though his name was well known as a part of the JFK White House, the name slips by me right now. Maybe it was Dave Powers?
- luke evans. He said so himself in 2002. He's getting big roles in movies these days.
- What about Julianna Margulies? Who's her gf?
- why would you wonder about Don Johnson r138 he is gay or BI as it were but def perfers men.
- Who cares about Julianna, I want a piece of her hot husband Keith Lieberthal.
- R166, I have heard many moons ago more than once, Mayor Bloomberg is gay. That is old news. When the guy speaks he sounds like a queen anyway. There has been so much stuff about Obama being gay, no not form the Republican party, from many others that I believe he is in the closet. So OP for the derailing.
My brother had a friend who worked in this concert hall years ago, and he told my brother that when Barry Manilow was doing a show, his boyfriend would call his dressing room and say, is Barr there? My brother's friend cracked up laughing when he answered the phone.
- This is R175, I meant to say "So OP,sorry for the derailing.
- So many of these responses have started with, "I've heard" and "A friend of a friend," or "A cousin's neighbor's wife's uncle's secretary's daughter..."
What about the word, "firsthand" do you bitches find so hard to understand?
- This thread has become a throwback to the 1990's when DL posters wrote in the style of r141 and r166, i.e. posters who are going through their Hedda Hopper stages.
But at least they're contributing, however fictionally.
- Ed Koch was gay and closeted but this has been known about for a long time and yeah he was rather queenie at times.
- We've already had people posting here about experiences they've had with Ed Koch in peep show booths, so your post kind of pales in comparison r179. Theirs are closer to first-hand experiences than your gossip relay.
- Liberace was gay
- Paul Newman was bisexual.
- @R180-Karma bit Koch hard in the ass since he died of AIDS.
Arafat was gay but who doesn't know that?
- When you die at age 88, is it ever really AIDS?
- R177 Because for some of us, that's the closest we can get (and those 'other' sources have been reliable). Waiting around for "firsthand" knowledge..good luck. Most of those folks left DL years ago. Do people here want dish, or not?
People here really know how to suck all the fun out of gossip.
- People dont understand the topic of this thread... Lets see if this helps...
Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from *trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge* *Please keep posting...
Lists of names... I can get all that info as well from browsing online.
r145... Blind item? really? I'm not in the now with boy bands. Give us a bit more.
- [quote]There have been rumors for many decades about JFK. One of the earliest tales was about the time he was recovering from an operation (prior to marriage) and moved onto the yacht of his friend, who had hired gay male nurses and already had a gay yacht crew for their wanderings during his recovery. One of JFK's best friends also was part of the recovery cruise. Though his name was well known as a part of the JFK White House, the name slips by me right now. Maybe it was Dave Powers?
If I remember the recovery cruise story correctly, it was all female nurses aboard. For all his p-hound ways and obvious promiscuity there have been very few rumors about JFK being bi- or homosexual, actually. At least few compared to the overwhelming tidal wave of info re his skirt-chasing.
The gay friend was his old roommate Lem Billings, who was so close to JFK he supposedly had his own room at the WH. He grew close to RFKs kids after his death, particularly Bobby Jr, who named his daughter after him.
- Matt Damon and Ben Affleck but it should be obvious to everyone they're not hetero and are butt buddies.
- [quote]What about the word, "firsthand" do you bitches find so hard to understand?
What about the words, "from trustworthy sources" do morons like R177 find so hard to understand?
- R141's description of John Mahoney as "deeply closeted" is a bit surprising. Around 2004 I heard through a work friend about him and Hyde-Pierce both having their boyfriends flown into visit them on set. Not direct knowledge from the friend, and so probably not up to the standards of the thread title, but hardly a deep secret, IMO.
Closest thing I have to "firsthand" experience is when I went to the premiere party of "Romy and Michelle's High School Reunion" in '97 (?) and had a brief and friendly conversation with Matthew Perry, who then asked me to lift him in my arms to show how much weight he had lost on his diet pills (which he soon went into rehab for, of course). I swept Matt up like a bride about to cross the threshold, but no invitations to a hotel suite followed. Instead, I spent most of the party talking to Richard Kind, Carla Gugino, and various random people.
Really, the highlight of the night was when somebody did that "let me show you where in Michigan I'm from by pointing to the palm of my hand" thing, which I'd never heard of before (the idea being that MI looks somewhat like a hand, not counting the Upper Peninsula) and I was quick-witted enough to come back with "I'd show you where I'm from, but it's in Florida so I'd have to unzip".
Now if only I'd shown Matthew Perry "Florida", then I'd have a real story. Oh, well…
Yeah because a cousin's friend's boss' wife's hairstylist is a trustworthy source.
- are some yaall still thinkin that Chrissy Brown is str8? Get the fuck outta here with dat shit. this littl bitch has been round that block a fukkin million times. he was round it before he was legal. He's a Jive boy meanin he been penetrated since he was a fuckin kid. if peeps keep denyin this shit I drop the real big names on this thread. some of the top Jive producers and they need for young male hole and pole.
this bitch has fucked around with some talent above his loser ass. he fucked Frank Ocean.
Q-Tip is the fuckin same. Jive's showrunnas always look for the sweet things when they aint legal. to the peep that q'd bout Q-Tip and Leo what the fuck you think? this boy is a major part of Leo's krew. They always make sure dem bitches is on hand but they down with the pole. Tobey knows all about Q-Tip's sweetness too. Lukas Haas is the weird lil bitch in this krew, he hate Q cuz he all gay and wanna own Leo. Leo Tobey and Q is bi. any1 Lukas Haas been with of the female sort is bigtime suspect of bein down with the puss.
Timberlake another Jive boy. Bitch is fuckin gay jus' like his wife Jessica Biel. that bitch cant keep her hands off the badonka even when photogs is right there. ever1 knows she gay and the best Timberlake can get for street cred is bisexual.
any fucker that wanna argue about Miley Cyrus dont know shit or kno so much they wannaput a PR lid on it. this one loves the pussy. loves it. Disney was scared shitless by her fuckin around with womynz when her cute little pedo show was the rage. now she can be half out and she runnin with it. I been there when she in the middle of fuckin a sex vet and then do the PR shit. she just walk out and do some bullshit interviews talkin about her boy and they pups and how she just loves the fuck outta them while she got the damnd pussy breath. girl smell like other women all the damnd time. she real tight with Amber Rose. I been around when they go to another room. they fucked I got no dam doubt it was goin down when Amber was preggers.
Kim aint the only Kardashian that fucks womynz. Khloe is dyke and casts girls on they bility to eat sum clam. Kim has Sherri Littleton and not much else but Khloe go thru the bitches and kno how to get what she wants outta str8 girls. she probs fucked Kim's girl too. Sherri is porno and knos how to get a bitch off or put out fo any fuckin fantasy.
Kim ate clam b4 tho. she was a fuckin hi price ho back in the dam day. she gone down on some of Hollywoods biggest closet dykes along with the pole she smoke. her daddys cash wasnt buyin her fame so she fukked for it then got help from the hollywood journos to hype her phony sex tape. all that shit was put on as the bitchs comin out party.
Ray J put his dikk in Kim but this boy like small tight male ass ova' big wide female bootay. bitch been caught mo' than once. we all kno he just want a bro. I drop sum fuckin names if peeps try to deny this shit.
- Post more R192.
- Todd Palin and Levi Johnston are gay.
- R192 who are some bisexual male actors/musicians or celebrities? Who are the closet dykes in hollywood?
- Just wow! R192 that is some incredible info. Please keep it coming, more!
- Just think how much fun this thread could have been if the title was worded differently and the hall monitor had nothing to freak out about.
- The awesome comedianne and business genius, Tig Notaro, is lesbian. The village voice has written a fun article about this out and proud celeb. Don't be a hata and lend your support to her projects.
- Anyone have any gossip on 80s Swedish band Roxette? They looked like the epitome of bi!
- The problem with the people who are trying to debunk the rumors posted are that they are just as unreliable as the people posting.
By saying that it's a laugh that people think Queen Latifah is gay even though she has admitted to sleeping with an Italian guy is as pure speculation as the gay ones. Unless you have pictures of the Queen with the Italian dick in her pussy, then we can only guess it happened. And just because Queen admitted it doesn't mean it's true either.
I always thought Colin was a gay, until I saw how much he liked to eat pussy in his sex tape. Now, I think, sure he may have had his dick sucked by a guy when he was drunk or may have even kissed a guy but he seems as straight as they come (even though he doesn't in the tape).
And one of Anthony Weiner's text buddies (a girl) said that she suggested they do a three-way with a guy and he responded back that he's done that before. Why would she lie?
- To the poster frightened of lawsuits: Do not mention Tig Notaro, and you will be fine. She is the only one insane enough to hire law firms to monitor the web and to threaten lawsuits for any post not promoting her and her business ventures. Dish away from any ISP but leave Notaro out or face jail or worse!
- Seriously, R201?
- nice, r192! I knew about Leo's crew, of course (Lukas Haas allegedly made out with a guy who posted about it here, no less), but i didn't know that Lukas, Leo, and Tobey were connected to Q-Tip.
Miley and Amber Rose? Damn, I knew she was a lez (still have an imaginary bet that she'll be out before she's 30), but between this and her Rhianna fetish I'm starting to think she likes black pussy as much as Gillian Anderson likes black ass.
(And of course all the Kartrashian girls love pussy. The only one in that family who likes dick is Rob.)
Keep it coming!
- Who are the ped0s R192 like people besides Michael Jackson and Mr. Spacey as it's been written about here on DL?
- That would make Colin bisexual then R200, either way it wouldn't surprise me since apparently Kevin Spacey "discovered" him in Australia when he was younger which should not surprise anyone.
- Sorry, r147, there is no gay gossip about Adam Kaufman. He has been in a relationship with Poppy Montgomery for years now, and they seem to lead a quiet, "normal" life.
- You all must be gossip newcomers. r192 NO ONE IS DENYING THAT THE INFO IS TRUE. I'm sayin tho, I HEARD ALL THAT BEFORE... Ummm Lipstickalley.com ring a bell... All that shit can be found written there and other places. NONE OF THE INFO IS NEW except for the newbies. Yes heard about Q-tip and Leo Crew and Lukas Haas, aint new info! Yes heard about RayJ, not new! Yes heard about Miley and Amber, not new!
I'm looking for NEW INFO not things that are common knowledge is GOSSIP circles that can be found online at Lipstickalley. Blinditemsexposed. CDAN, even here in Datalounge... Even old Wendy Williams shit...
I can gather and copy and paste all that info. But for a pro like me I want new stuff... Leo Gay or Bi Chris Brown, Q tip, Ray J, heard it all before. Not saying it isn't true, I'm saying I HEARD IT, what else is out there...
Wheres the poster who mentioned something about getting a bj from a popular boy bander? Something about this new generation?
- Because of Whitney's death, lipstick alley brought all the unhinged ghetto trash into these gossip threads. No one can get a word in or question a thing. Lchat is impossible to gossip in because of them. Same wording, same pattern, same shit over and over. Its getting ridiculous.
- anybody knows something about Richard Jenkins? I love his presence at the scenes.
- Don't forget Brucie and Kris, r203!
- r192, thanks for the great gossip.
What's the deal on Flocka and Gucci? Do you know the real reason for the beef? They're floating Selena Gomez' name, and I thought she was a dyke.
Sounds like a lover's quarrel to me.
Who's A$AP Rocky had? That is a pretty, pretty fucker.
- [quote]Because of Whitney's death, lipstick alley brought all the unhinged ghetto trash into these gossip threads. No one can get a word in or question a thing.
I quit going to that site a few years ago because the MJ stans were so delusional it was scary and also because the people that brought the real gossip ended up eventually leaving because they were sick of all the ghetto trash stirring up trouble.
- r212, don't act like the GLBT community doesn't have it's own version of this. There have been some unhinged fucking queens on here (MPC, MHB, JudyPills, etc.).
Any community has its extreme stereotypical shit stirrers.
Personally, I think the PR shills and the Freepers are way more destructive and annoying.
- R212 Queen Latifah admitted she fucked an Italian guy on the Stern show! BTW She never said she was straight either.I believe she's fucked guys BUT is a big old dyke judging from all the other stories I've heard about her.That ends that one....
R200 Lizard, the little people make up things for attention.Their 15 minutes of fame is predicated on someone else's misfortune/tragedy. As much as I hate Anthony Weener she's a fame whore for trying to exploit his misfortune.Then again I can see him with a huge cock in his mouth!
R211 Selena must be a baby dyke because Bieber looks like a dyke! No wonder she was in love with she/he/it!
- Sorry everybody hate to be the party pooper yet again!
Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
- r213 Those 'unhinged fucking queens' never tried to cover up their unhinged nature. They also never prevented others from speaking. They were also characters, unlike these LipStick Alley posters.
- The thing is...it actually IS hard to reveal details and sources (which everyone wants), especially with multiple streams of current information, without it adding up to too much of one's personal information on the internet. That, and given the nature of people who work in Hollywood, stories are bound to conflict. Since most people lash back anyway and are going to believe what they want to anyway, it's no wonder there isn't more free flow of gossip regarding who is fucking who.
- Here is the thing...I have dished on people I know to be gay from friends and or/personal experience. I still think that half of Internet gossip is bullshit. This isn't to say that Leo or Tom or Jake etc is straight but it is to say that until I see something with my own eyes or hear it from someone I trust I have to in fairness at least doubt its veracity. Also we have to remember that gossip sites go for hits and target people who are popular.
That being said a friend of mine used to make deliveries to Alicia Keys and told me ages ago (back in the 90s) she had a steady girlfriend.
- Zachary Quinto.
He said so and hasn't worked since.
- What are talking about?
Zachary is doing very well, unlike you.
- R218 so who is gay and who is bi?
Quinto is working, see link.
- Sorry I'm not sure if you latest replies realize what the topic is about so because I'm so kind...
Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
- See that, r222, this thread dies when we can't go on tangents. Thanks, killjoy.
PS Are there really no good hosts out there if NPH is both the Tony and the Emmu host? I think he sould go for the trifecta and host the Oscars, too.
And I know firsthand that Neil is gay.
- "Hall Monitors Who Have Shrieked At Me to Stay on Topic."
- [quote]PS Are there really no good hosts out there if NPH is both the Tony and the Emmu host? I think he sould go for the trifecta and host the Oscars, too.
That's way beyond a tangent, r224. But nice save at the end.
And I know firsthand that Peter Allen is gay. Sur fucking prise. I slept with him a few times. He was kind, funny, generous, well hung, great body, and a bottom.
- bumped in the forlorn hope that someone posting from a Starbucks or a public library will spill.
Don't pussy out now
- Way back when Travolta was bearding with Marilu Henner, during the time of Sat Night Fever, the paps "caught them" going to a private house party. My male friend was then shocked to see them go their separate ways once inside. Then Travolta started making out with his boyfriend, in front of all of the party guests.
- Man, Travolta just could not be discreet. Hitting onto men all over. Most gays are probably way more discreet.
- Prince Harry is a sex addict since he was a very young man - he doesn't care who is on the end of his dick, or which orifice it is in...
- r198 = r201. Hi Tigg.
- A bit of a tangent but I want to add my perspective. I'm not going to dish on anyone in this post.
People with insider information are not likely to spill it just for the sake of spilling it. If one of my employers was unreasonably rude towards me, didn't pay me, etc and I was sure my confidentiality breech could never be traced to me then I might be inclined to expose them on some anonymous message board like this. But honestly there's just not much satisfaction in doing so.
Some employee gripes end up as blind items on gossip pages. I've seen it - I've read blind items and known exactly who the source was. And I can assure you many details of those are embellished - understand that the motivation behind exposing a celebrity like that is revenge. Always think about the motive because it will tell you a lot about the source. I personally don't understand why some people risk their reputation and future employment in order to expose another person. It's not that I feel for the celebrities. I'm far too interested in my own self-preservation, I suppose.
As far as dishing on who is gay or who is straight in Hollywood, you again have to understand that unless a celebrity has screwed over an employee in some big way there is no motive for exposing them.
Closeted actors are not in the closet because they are ashamed of their sexuality (well some may be). A public hetero image is part of the job description. Most of them are not out of the closet in Hollywood either. I know of one particular A- list actor who is closeted who is thought to be straight by many in the industry (very nice person by the way, which is why his employees are so loyal to him). Even though Hollywood is politically left-leaning, the very nature of the business and how money is made necessitates that every level of the business is invested in actively closeting gay actors. The studios in particular are fierce about this. It even extends to the tabloids. What sells magazines above all else is romance - heterosexual romance. That's why the tabloids don't send paps to catch gay actors. Publishing a photo like that would result in a universal freeze-out of info.
Travolta is an exception and an interesting one. He hasn't kept up his end of the bargain - discretion.
- R232 is a PR who's trying to preserve his shit job by closeting people. Boo
- R232 is right about the tabloid/gossip industry revolving around hetero romance.
- R232 agree with much of what you posted re employees, however it doesn't cover their family or friends who are often the source for a lot of stuff here and other spots. Employees won't spill in order to stay in the business, but they're human and will unload to friends and relatives who don't have the same incentive to stay mum.
That's how we end up with so many friend-of-a friend-told-me-years-ago or my-brother-who-worked-for-so-and-so-says posts. Just because its not always a 1st degree source doesn't necessarily make it less viable.
- Spot on R235
- I have been told things from a reliable source. I won't say about who. I would never repeat them, not here or anywhere. The person in question would know who talked, and there would be consequences. Besides, I really don't believe this or any site is 100% anonymous. Not that it matters. Like I said, the source would be easily figured out.
And just look at how some who have talked have been mistreated and chased out. I wonder if it is done on purpose to keep dirt little details quiet.
- Very well said, R237.
- Thank you, R238.
- Very well said??!
About 300 other posters have said the same thing that r237 so smugly felt (s)he had to say: "I know stuff but I ain't telling ya."
WHY even post that? Isn't it easier just to keep your yap shut - or better yet - go away?
But no, you need the attention, or worse yet, you are hanging out to find out dirt without getting YOUR hands dirty. You're pathetic.
And before you flip it on me, troll-dar will tell you I've contributed my own personal experience, however obvious the individual.
- and intuition will suggest you've been up all night drinking and smoking meth.
- No. On my way to the gym as a matter of fact. You have nothing to contribute so you think it's cute to take a low swing. You might have as well said my mother wears army boots, r241.
You and many others before you are just uninteresting and not as clever as you think.
- Trust me, I really, really don't need to come here to glean "facts" and stories.
A suggestion: get upset about things in life that are worth getting upset about. With all the problems in the world, that shouldn't be too difficult to find a burning issue of the day that needs attention. Not getting enough gossip about celebs at a free website isn't one of those problems.
- R243, Have you ever thought that coming to DL offers an amusing break from the frustrations of everyday life? Yes, I also enjoy finding out about the latest innovations, ridiculous or actually important, and the progress made in bringing down destructive cults.
Now, back to more gossip, please. Is Leo's new very beautiful model/pap escort straight or bi? Who's she dated in the past?
- The bigger question is - why are you here in this particular thread at all?
And again, when you have nothing to say, you divert the subject ("there's bigger problems in the world....")
Of course there are bigger things to be more concerned with - but we're both here now, in this thread, discussing or reading about the topic presented by OP. Your "bigger issues" diatribe is the equivalent of lecturing someone who's eating ice cream about world hunger and wars.
If you say you don't need to come here for "facts" etc., and you don't want to contribute, I still don't get why you're in this thread at all.
To practice your reading skills, perhaps? I'm sincerely at a loss.
Wait, I just got it: you're one of those people who like to hear themselves talk and pontificate.
- It's you who jumped on me when I joined the conversation and explained why some of us don't or can't offer much.
It's you who like to hear himself talk.
And just what is it that YOU can offer us?
- I'll bet the actor R232 is writing about is either George or Brad, and it's certainly not Sean Penn.
Secondly R232 is ignoring the fact that since these actors/actresses are majorly closeted about being bisexual or gay/lesbian or something other than hetero they are on some level majorly ashamed of their sexuality.
- Or perhaps R232 is writing about Wolverine, Mr. Crowe, or Matt Damon and Affleck as none of those men are hetero.
- can we please get this thread back on track.
- ff for r237. How's that for mistreatment? Now, go away, be gone.
- WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW WOW. This last page of responses has been total bullshit. Make your own thread with your long ass thesis on the psychology of gossip and friend of friends viability and I know but I'm not telling because they will know. And here is my life story as to why I cannot share what I know, FUCK! Really? BYE! Just in case you meth head bath salt lovin fruits don't get it this is the Re: Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting!
Why is that so hard to follow? Someone needs to make a thread of Part 3 Why I CAN'T tell you who I know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources etc. That would be great for ya!
- [quote]And just what is it that YOU can offer us?
As I said before (but don't mind repeating since you seem to be using this thread to brush up on your reading skills), troll dar me and you'll see I have contributed.
- When I was a spring chicken (freshmen year in college), I was invited to this party in honor of Producer Lester Persky's birthday. The party was packed with gorgeous boys, some of whom were chorus boys from the Grease movie and Broadway show. So naive, innocent me thought they were there as invited guests, available for anyone to chat up. As I was just doing that, one of them told me "you're not supposed to be cruising here; we're here to make the party look good and are available only to those who are looking to pay." It was just ten when I noticed how most of them were taking turns surrounding Persky, like a bevy of feather-fanning boy slaves.
Well I felt like such a fool not knowing that I had been recommended as a guest for that party to provide window dressing services.
One of the guests who joined us later (as a suck-up to Persky) was Jeff Conaway, fresh from his "Grease" stint. Apparently, it was common knowledge then that Jeff was gay, at least at that period in his life.
Long story short, when everyone was headed to Studio 54, I told our host that unfortunately I had to get going back to school because I had a Shakespeare paper due the next day. So a caravan of limousines on their way to 54 made one quick pit stop at Port Authority to drop me off. This was Fall of 1978 - the heyday of Studio 54.
- [quote]And just look at how some who have talked have been mistreated and chased out. I wonder if it is done on purpose to keep dirty little details quiet.
You may be right in some instances.
- I know everyone knows Kevin Spacey is gay but here's a pic of him sitting very gayly in public with a guy. the guys arm is around him and Tony Danza looks uncomfortable.
- Wow! Kevin Spacey really landed a hot one there.
- Great pic r255! Tony looks like he needs a walker.
- Hmm let's see.
Strictly film A-to-B-list 2-time Academy Award winning actor with an enviable resume hanging out with a has-been sitcom hottie and failed talk show host who can basically only play himself.
Now who should be uncomfortable being with whom again?
- Tony Danza is either bisexual or gay, and yeah I would feel grossed out if Spacey was near me and touching me even though Danza is way too old for Spacey. Spacey is a chickenhawk in that he is into guys who are not legal age which is sick. Harvey Milk was also a chickenhawk like this.
- The guy with Spacey will show up in a film or play with Spacey. That's partial payment.
- r250 just wants to provoke and keep the trouble going. Drama queen, are you? I joined the conversation to address the 2 replies before mine. If you don't like them, use that scroll bar and go on to the next reply. And never once did I "taunt" you with look what I know. You are a classic example of why I sure wouldn't leave any response of any hot-and true- gossip. Your loss, not mine.
- God, I used to love Tony Danza's shower scenes on Who's The Boss...
- Where was the Kevin Spacey picture taken?
- Some tennis match.
- R259, that is interesting you said that about Harvey Milk because he was not gay like so many gay people are brainwashed into believing. Harvey Milk was a pedophile who liked little boys and so was Harry Hay. Wake up people! So sorry OP I didn't mean to divert thread so don't be mad at me.
You forgot your meds, honey.
- r267, I thought it was well-known he liked underage teens?
He was also partially responsible for Jim Jones' rise.
- The guy with Spacey looks like jazz artist, Peter Cincotti.
- R253, interesting about Jeff Conaway. I got the sense that the man was deeply, deeply fucked up but had a generally sweet and sort of naive disposition. I caught a few episodes of him on that Dr. Drew Celebrity Rehab show and he talked about how he was part of some sort of child porno ring when he was a kid. Who knows how much of that is true, of course. His last few years (and really more than just the last few) were quite sad, especially with him ending up on that show and with a fellow addict trying to ride his "fame."
- R270, thank you for pointing that out about him. No wonder why he was so messed up. That is very heart breaking. Grease is one of my favorite movies and I love him in that film along with everyone else in that film. Yes, even John Travolta before he got really weird. So sorry OP I just wanted to respond to R270.
- yawn. Jeff Conaway... yawn. Thread is still dead.
- R237 I'm not sure if you were thinking of me in your post, but last week when another poster brought up the burn thread "What We Know about SWF" he has all but convinced me that it was started by a PR creeper who hunts for unfavorable stories on blogs and message boards and then does everything possible to destroy the poster's credibility. I felt a bit better when I learned that. Plus the webby banned the poster of the thread after taking it down.
So, I may be back in business soon.
- I hope so, r273 aka SWF! :-)
- Big kiss****
- I will relate this story from a trustworthy source who really had no reason to lie. He was living in England at the time (this was 94-95 so just the start of using the internet for hookups) and agreed to meet a person he was talking to off a gay BBS (kind of like a forum or room in AOL). He has set it up with his roommate to call the restaurant about 10 minutes after he got there so if it was a total bust he had a sudden emergency to get out of it.
So he goes roommate calls and he says "I got to go" Roommate says "is everything okay?" Guy says "yes, I got to go."
Next morning He comes home. Roommate says "Jesus I was worried about you, you sounded strange on the phone." He says "you will not fucking believe who I just spent the night with, Al fucking Pacino."
- r273 yes welcome back swf!
Think there's lots of PR creepers infesting this board (and other places) with the express purpose of shutting down gossip.
- Can someone like maybe r192 please tell me the details on la timberlake's lust for cock? Who's fucked him (other then Lou pearlman obvs)?
- R276 Interesting story. I wonder if Pacino was the sucker and the other one the suckee? I've only heard straight dish on Alfredo then again it seems that everyone in Hollywood is bi,gay or pansexual......
- r280, I'm surprised that photo didn't surface sooner. ...rumoured to exist for years. I don't find either to be very attractive.
- Now now SWF you can't have thin skin around here! Can't do much about the trolls and ignoramuses who just want to insult and spoil but those who are genuinely here for the gossip love your stuff.
Keep it coming doll!
- R273, I share your "thin-skin" and your true sensitivity. Wonder if that's why an on-line acquaintance complains about another message board; PR trolls. Either way, welcome back and your info sharing has helped and entertained many.
- [quote]Plus the webby banned the poster of the thread after taking it down.
How do you know that? I've never seen a list of banned people. Is it hidden somewhere on some DL link?
- In response to R273, first of all, welcome back, SWF on the verge!
I was thinking of several situations and people in various places and sites when I wrote that. They are too numerous to recount.
Yes, I believe some PR people absolutely must at least on occasion appear on boards and sites throughout the Internet in order to shut down talk in some fashion. Think Co-intel. I know that may sound extreme, but you get the point.
Think about it a bit. The 'net has changed the world. A person, celeb or not, simply cannot do something and have it be hidden. If seen or known, well, a click or tweet or text or video from a cell phone is all it takes to broadcast the event, talk or pictures across the globe, even to people who previously wouldn't or couldn't have known about it.
- "that is interesting you said that about Harvey Milk because he was not gay like so many gay people are brainwashed into believing. Harvey Milk was a pedophile who liked little boys and so was Harry Hay."
Wow, you are making it clear that you don't know what the word "pedophile" means
- All of this B.S. makes me miss Umpy.
- I know who r282 is and I love you! You are angry, but as you said, not so young anymore. Thanks for sending me to Earl's Court about 6 years ago.
Also ADORE SWF -- I like your intelligence, your writing, and your life experience. So, please don't swallow all the pills at once; you are loved and you are loveable. If you lived in SF, we'd be best friends. Or at least drinking and/or recovery buddies!
A LONG time ago, I was jacked off in a spa by the head publicist of a major film studio and his boyfriend at a gay resort on a far away continent. His father is a famous producer.
He might end up reading this. He was obnoxious but cute and actually very kind, but I digress.
He confirmed Foster and Travolta, and outed Spacey to me. Also that Victor something guy who recently came out. And a bunch of others whose names I forget. Didn't know about Spacey at the time.
All the others were no surprise or "who cares"? When I asked him about Tom Cruise, he got really weird and only said "He is a very, very nice man". I pressed him further, he would not state whether he thought Tom is gay or straight. The conversation then became uncomfortable.
Of course, I came home and posted about this here, but with fewer details. Does anyone remember "Trudy" in the original DL?
They wanted to play with me in their room, but I declined because I had a (now ex) LTR waiting for me in our room. What a missed opportunity. Could have milked him (pun intended) for material to post here. Perhaps I should track him down and see if he remembers me.
- r192, please tell us more.
Damn, I thought those guys were gay (esp Chris Brown and JT).
Damn, good gossip.
- Agreed r289.
What's the deal on A$AP Rocky? Obviously gay, but who's his bf?
I think Waka (sorry, I know he's rachet but I think he's attractive) and Gucci were an item.
- Yeah! SWF, well done for not giving into the cretins. You have to wonder, when credibility-destroying efforts go into the HUNDREDS of posts, there is something more serious behind it than some jealous bitches.
And for those of you who want to bore us ad infinitum with stories of how the ones with the real gossip don't need to share it, STFU. We don't need lessons about how some desperate hangers-on are smart enough to stay real quiet, lest they anger the star of a C-rate sitcom on UPN. Fuck you. Your world is not so important. We crave gossip as you try to embellish your sad little overpaid existence and there are people that want to share tidbits for the fuck of it.
So please, folks, share and share plentifully. Fuck these loser shills whose greatest life achievement is being someone's assistant. Really, Daddy would have NEVER preferred you go to medical school over fetching some retard in some shite sitcom Evian water between takes.
And fuck you very much for trying to derail a cool thread.
- r291 is drunk because booze is his only friend! Get out of your parent's basement in flyover land a life, mouth breather.
- Like R279, I've only heard straight dish about Pacino, basically that he is/was a, as we say, pussyhound. I wonder if your friend was messing with you, R267? The idea of Al Pacino using the internet in the mid-90s to set up hookups is sort of bizarre.
- Oh, R291, I'm still not drunk enough to fuck your hideous-breathed, ugly self. How is that GED and tiny dick working out for you? Life here in downtown Miami is lovely, thanks for asking. Whoops, Raoul just pulled up, gotta run, slobbo!
- But, r294, YOU are r291.
Is there something you'd like to share with us in terms of how you may possibly be able to rim yourself?
- if he was the head publicist and only jacked you off, he was a terrible head publicist.
I know David James Elliot has had more than one guy on the side.
- I want to know about those CW/ABC family guys - Matt Lanter (the gay Dudetube guy), Chace Crawford, Colton Haynes, etc., etc., etc.
Any really good dish on young hollywood?
- David James Elliot is one sexy guy. Hadn't heard any gay rumors about him.
- Don't forget there are also the obsessive fangurls who troll the boards to prevent any gay gossip about their on screen imaginary lovers.
- Sorry I think you all forgot this thread is
Re: Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
Out of all these wack ass replies one poster left something good r276. Something not commonly heard, not a oh SWF thanks lets talk about everything not on topic about publicists, which might I add obviously aren't cruising this threads halls since aint nothing good or new except for that cool story from r276. Conway, Travolta, Foster, SWF, SPACEY... Wow thanks!
- OK r300, I have championed your monitor cause simply because I think you're right. But now you've overstepped.
OP's subject does not ask for new, shocking, never-before-heard revelations. It just requests personal first-hand experiences with celebrities. It is just as interesting to hear that Al Pacino may like the peen as it is to hear about someone's personal encounter with Nathan Lane.
So knock it off.
- Hi R301. Drop dead.
- I agree with R301
R300, you're not the "moderator" of the board, so knock it off.
- I posted extensively in the last thread - real stories with actual details - I was given a lot of "no way that happened" or weird demands for very specific details (that I'd already provided) that led to claims of lying.
There's no way anyone's going to believe anything here. It's the hell of us.
- Nor are you R303 so piss off.
Once again, don't try to dictate what we can or can't discuss. Stop it. If you don't like, skip it.
- r302, clever retort! You must be a writer.
- Same with you, dipshit at R306. Stop reading my posts if you don't like them.
You're really not very bright, dear.
- Are you sure you're not just dying from boredom, R7? Your posts would indicate so.
Same for you, idiot.
- R192 is faker than a $2 bill. He got all his "info" from Lipstick Alley. We want original and authentic gossip not secondhand hearsay from a unreliable ghetto gossip site.
Please Keep It Real.
- If the hall monitor and childish "I know you are but what am I?" posters would STFU, this thread just might be salvaged.
- Don't be so quick to generalize, R311. They've gotten some reliable information. Don't forget that young black, Hispanic, and Southeast Asian women do work behind the scenes of entertainment, and not just as bathroom attendants. Some of them have quit the business and spilled, and some of them (shockingly!!!) can type legitimate sentences AND browse that website for fun.
Also? DL does not equal "original and authentic gossip." Well, original, maybe. Certainly original.
- Honestly, Just post what you want to post and forget if people don't like it. You all take this far too seriously. It is a gossip board after all and gossip is pretty much predicated on the fact that half or more of it is bullshit and the other half is hearsay.
So some on hear might be making shit up, or exaggerating stuff. Who cares. Did you come here to DL to this specific thread because you are writing a term paper and you need hard facts? I don't think so, you came here to pass the time and be amused.
If you have some gossip, share if you want. For those of us who like to read the gossip, quit biting the hand that feeds you. Read it, enjoy it and decide for yourself to believe it or not.
And yes, staying on topic is always good, but sometimes a digression is fine too as it brings back new life to the thread.
And it would be so lovely not to ever read this "Pics or it didn't happen" on any thread ever again. It is the quintessential bitch post.
- The last 13 replies... cue eye roll. Sorry let me try this again because it aint working out.
Here it goes. In case you forgot as the latest replies have shown here it is...
Re: Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
- "He got all his "info" from Lipstick Alley. We want original and authentic gossip not secondhand hearsay from a unreliable ghetto gossip site."
Well, Lipstick Alley outed Kerry Rhodes before those pictures of him leaked....some of the posters there may be nutty but that doesn't mean that they never have any actual dirt.
- Ah, it's straight frau's who continually say, "I don't believe..." pay them no mind. In their ignorance, they never believe anyone is gay.
- Kevin spacey can be way aggressive in going after underage boys. I know, big surprise.
- r316, They also outed Waka (trap rapper) before the tranny pics came out.
I can't remember if they or MTO got the ASAP Rocky purse and relaxed hair pics before LSA.
I find LSA a lot like here. A few insiders who are driven away by the crazies and some people who live around celebs and have decent gossip from time to time. It does get drowned out, but it's there if you look.
The poster could be one of those in the know people who posts on both sites.
- R304 please post some more info in this thread.
- That guy with Spacey is some singer who has a gf.
But I wanna know is Spacey gay or bi or pan?
One of my friends swears she got hit on by Spacey in the early 00s and that he wanted a threesome with her and her gf.
He also seems chummy with John Stamos who was the subject of many MMF theesome blinds and I've seen pics of Stamos, Spacey and Stamos' ex wife looking very close.
- r269 here. The singer with Spacey is Peter Cincotti.
- Spacey "directed" Cincotti in his awful bio pic of Bobby Darin "Beyond the Sea."
- Way back when she wasn't famous (or a household name) and years before she met Ellen I had a chance to meet Portia and she told me Jodie Foster was gay (back then it was probably a known fact in Hollywood but not to the wide public).
I guess those days phones didn't have cameras and there were no such alive Internet forums to discuss it although extremely privacy and no answering certain questions were red flags to those who wanted to see it.
If I would love to hear the same gossip about a female star today, it'd be about Jess Chastain. I have no clue if she's closeted but I do think she's having some sort of trauma. The Italian guy also seems fake, but I think the same about her best friend JW stories.
- To those talking smack about Tig Notaro,
Read this article and the comments. Tig can care less what you think on this loser message board.
- R324 Jess Chastain is nowhere near as gay as Jodie foster is in terms of her public persona.Jodie didn't beard like this. Then again friends of mine had seen Jodie with Cydney in Manhattan all over the place ,so I harbored no illusions that she was straight.With JC at least she has this Italian guy with Jodie she went about with her baby daddy Randy BUT they looked like brother and sister together!
Before I start I will provide a bit of background on myself. That's the rule, right? I'm a gay man that has worked with every level of entertainment over the last 40 years. I've worked with and for Suze Randall, for Hefner and Larry Flint. I've also done work with porn producers like Randy West. I don't want to be any more detailed than that, so I hope it will suffice.
When I say that I've worked with every level of the industry, I mean it. I've known top producers, agents and stars of mainstream cinema and concert acts. I also know many of their sexual habits because I was often paid to procure them. The producers tend to be gay, I'd estimate upwards of 70% are. The stars have to work harder for their titles and so most of them are functionally bi, and will screw anyone, of either gender to accomplish their goals. When it comes time to play it's a different matter: many of them are gay when off the clock. In my experience a majority of Hollywood stars actively enjoy gay sex.
I'll try to get to some good stuff now.
Suze Randall has been a frontline recruiter for every part of entertainment since the 1970s and has worked closely with Hollywood producers to find new female talent. They have always paid her well to file away erotic films and photospreads if it's decided that one of her girls should become a mainstream star. Virginia Madsen, Courteney Cox, Kim Basinger and Cindy Morgan (lesbian) are among her finds and lovers.
Suze was also a longtime friend and lover of Warren Beatty. Throughout the 1970s and 1980s they shared women sexually. He'd provide young actresses (Nancy Allen and Jo Ann Harris among them) for her and she'd give him first pick of any new modelling talent that he wanted to test drive. Both of them have slept with Pam Grier's lover, Laura Misch, and countless other Playmates. But Suze's relationship with Jack Nicholson is what's troubling. She supplied him with women of all ages, including women who were just teens. Polanski was a major part of this scene but he wasn't the one paying for most of it, or throwing the big parties with the young girls. So when Polanski got in trouble with Geimer, it was imperative that he be smuggled out of the country. If he hadn't been a huge sex ring, that also includes many executives and young men, would have been exposed.
Drew Barrymore had sex with Nicholson when she was 14, which should some idea of what goes on.
Hefner has worked for Hollywood's true elite, the executive branch, since at least the 1960s. He's been bankrolled by executives to run several modeling agencies that he sets up with frontmen and women as "founders", many of them focus on male models. They recruit these men as sexual entertainers and other times as very pricey prostitutes. Celebs that have been involved in this work include Scott Bakula, Rick Rossovich, Keanu Reeves and Simon Baker.
Hef was at the beck and call of studio chiefs, so when stars played hardball on contracts they often called him up to start leaking photos or other dirt. This has slowed considerably as Playboy has lost its cultural influence and Hefner has had to deal with sleazier upstarts in the sex trade, but he used to be a reliable pawn for execs. When Suzanne Somers started campaigning for a better contract for 3's Company they immediately went to Hefner. He provided documentation of her time as a prostitute and names of ex-lovers, some of them Playmates. ABC lined up Ellen Michaels, a former Playmate, to come forward in the tabs as Suzanne's Lesbian Lover. The threats worked (all the dirt was true) and Suzanne's team folded completely, ending her career to that point or any hope of becoming a bigger star. CBS instantly killed the deal they had with her for a pilot when they found out about Ellen Michaels. So ABC killed her career without publishing the story, and soon she was exiled to Vegas and asking Hefner for another chance to pose nude in Playboy. Everyone came out ahead except for Somers.
- My post got cut off...
Helen Hunt used to throw lesbian parties and would order girls from Hef and others. Names like Gillian Bonner would be paid very well to stay for a weekend of sex.
Lorie Loughlin, Sheryl Crowe and Regina King were amongst Helen's regular friends and guests. King is a dyke who has slept with a Who's Who of Hollywood closet lesbians.
- Great gossip, R327/328. Keep it coming.
- Finally this thread is back on track. Thanks R328.
- Nicholson and Polanski are the devil.
OMG Scott Bakula!
- it's about f-ing time - thank you r327/328!
Any dirt on Alec Baldwin? wondering what he needed to do to jump from daytime soaps to movies...
I'd like to hear more Nicholson dish... he's not a nice man is he?
- I thought this thread had died.
So pleased it has not.
Keep the stories coming.
- R326- Jodie has been a child star, she's been in front of the cameras her whole life. She didn't have to struggle in the sense of the word. Therefore, she didn't have to beard, she had doors opened for herself. Chastain obviously worked very hard and waited long time to be where she's now so it's more logical that she would beard (if she's really gay).
- R33 Jack Nicholson(according to a friend of his) is much different from his public persona. He's far more introspective and relaxed.He's very loyal to old friends like Lou Adler and Robert Evans.He was one of many who went into Naomi Campbell's bed. Yes, he's a fuckhound but he's not the shitheel that he's been portrayed to be by some.
I don't know for sure if Brando and Nicholson ever fucked before .Brando fucked girls and guys and I know that Jack and Marlon were close.I wonder if someone on here knows for sure.
Warren Beatty has been fucking around with other women ever since he found his dream woman( the one that supposedly tamed him) Annette Benning.What a farce that marriage is. It's funny how straight people buy bearding but also buy this situation as well.The happy loving family and Warren is now a family guy. Well once a slut always a slut....
- To add-
on Rossovich, Baker, Bakula, Reeves - Most of the men were kept in mid grade roles through out their career. They got film roles in exchange for pleasing execs and such who wanted them. TV was considered a throw away then. The one break out was Keanu who was a favorite of Geffen and as such got a hot career.
Of the 4 listed it should be noted that Rossovich, Bakula and Baker are all married with Children now...only Reeves is the lone single man. I guess fame really does cost.
- I often wonder if Warren is bi. Any stories? There was talk on another thread that Selleck was rumored to have frequented bath houses or similar when young. Any truth to it, any stories out there anyone could relate?
- Christopher Ciccone (Madonna's brother) said that back when he and Madonna dated...that Warren was obsessed with the subject of homosexuality, and would ask all sorts of crazy things to Christopher.
Christopher says he never meet a "straight" man that was so obsessed with homosexuality.
Always said it raised a major eyebrow to him.
- R339 I talked to a friend of Warren's and only got the impression that he likes poonani not peen.Outside of that Warren is a rabid hetty sex freak to the point of distraction.I've had straight friends that don't get" gayness" and ask questions. So it's not that shocking.
R338 If I remember correctly,somebody claimed to have seen Tom Selleck at a gay club in the NYC area years ago. He always pinged to me. Tom's Harry Reemsish mustache made him seem so gay he made Liberace seem straight.
- r340, it would make sense that if he went to a sex club that it wouldn't be in CA, but NYC or elsewhere. You know, a not messing in his own backyard kinda thing. Not that he wouldn't have been recognized...
- R341 This might have been before Magnum. However a lot of guys sported that "Harry Reems" look back in the day.So who knows if it was really Tom or not....
- [R327] Were Suze Randall and Courteney Cox lovers?
- r342, I was thinking the same thing. He was a male model before acting. I remember seeing pics of him both without and with a 'stache when much younger.
- To me the biggest surprise in 327's post is that Suze Randall is bi. I could have sworn she was a gold-star dyke, but turns out she's been married for decades and has a daughter.
- I haven't read the whole thread. Anyone know anything about Bradley Cooper? His fangirl base is annoying.
- r339 - Very sexual people will always be addressing, talking about, and asking questions about sex 24/7. It's our thing and we enjoy it. It doesn't mean that we are curious to try an orientation that's not within us.
- R340 R347 I'm not saying Madonna's brother was right...or that Warren is even remotely bi. I've always taken him to be a womanizer.
I just relayed what her brother said, and thought. If I remember right, he didn't seem to think Warren was really anything other than straight either, just that the man had an obsession with homosexuality that he found... interesting.
- Thanks for sharing, R327/328. That was awesome.
- Can someone open a new Dirty Secrets of Glee Thread?
- Tennessee Williams talks about Warren Beatty begging him for a part and makes it quite clear that Warren did not really "have to ask a lot of questions about homosexuality." After waking him up in the middle of the night in his hotel room, Tennessee told him, "You have the part, Warren! Now put on some clothes and let me sleep!"
- r353, wow....
- That Tennessee...
- I knew someone who worked at the Mineshaft who actually met Mr Williams. He said that he was a sweet man. He gave the impression something happened but who knows.....
R353 Here is what really happened!:
And Tennessee Williams claimed that Warren, still an unknown in 1961, had offered him sexual services in gratitude for giving him the role of Vivien Leigh's toyboy in The Roman Spring Of Mrs Stone.
"There was a knock on my (hotel room) door," he recalled in his memoirs.
"When I opened it, there stood Warren in his bathrobe. I told him: 'Go home to bed, Warren. I said you had the part'."
The idea that the notoriously promiscuous Williams would turn down the opportunity to add Beatty to the list of actors he had seduced is too ludicrous to believe.
But the true story of their meeting is funnier.
Beatty, who was nominally engaged to Joan Collins at the time, had flown to Puerto Rico, where Williams was staying at the Caribe Hilton in San Juan.
"I walked into a casino just off the main lobby of the hotel," he says of his first meeting with the playwright, "and sure enough, hunched over the blackjack table, I saw Tennessee.
"I knew that he'd gotten an ulcer from the reviews of his last play, so I sent over a glass of milk on a tray with a note saying: 'Dear Mr Williams, anything else you want?'" Beatty signed it Paolo, the name of the male hooker he wanted to play in Williams's story.
- Did Tennessee get it on with Marlon Brando?
- R356, Thanks for sharing. Love to hear the inside stories
- Brando and Tennessee met in Provincetown, r357. The answer is yes.
- Thanks for sharing, R327 and R328.
- By the way, it's well known that Tom Selleck is gay.
- R327 is probably already dead.
By the way, did Keanu take a knife to one of Geffen's famous paintings, when they broke up?
- I assume we're allowed to reply to previous posts...
For the record there are *rumours*/bullshit that was posted in dozens of threads about any given hot male celeb who haven't been covered here yet... but I'm not reiterating stuff from old threads.
Fascinating stuff r327 and we love you Shockwave Flash/SWF.
Warren Beatty - I did think he pings a little (just the voice) but is clearly straight. He is not as gay seeming as Jerry Seinfeld (was shocked that one is straight) or especially Elliott Gould(!) There was some story I read about Warren saying that his one regret was he hadn't tried gay sex - so that ties in with what Christopher Ciccone said. I think I also read Sean Connery say this. So there ya go. Straight men are always curious about what goes on with gay sex to some degree.
Marlon Brando - It's a shame that the original masculine heman archetype was the only one with the balls to admit that he loved the gay sex. If he did, you just know that's the tip of the iceberg.
Al Pacino - Thought he pinged but more on the basis of the numerous gay roles/gay themed films he was in.
Mind you, he was pretty and not really like masculine De Niro so it made sense for his characters. If Paul Newman started in the grittier 70s cinema it would be the same.
- R327, any dirt on gay/bi MEN?
- R362, why did they (keanu & Geffen) break up? How long were they together?
- One rumor was that Geffen brought home a hustler for three=way and it pissed Keanu off.
Keanu's serious drug habit could have been another problem or maybe his affair with Van Sant? Just guessing. No one ever talks about Geffen.
- R356 the Mineshaft was a club for masculine bisexual and gay men into consensual BDSM, Tennessee Williams was more vanilla and nellie.
- Anyone have any info on Selleck? What's he into sexually? I can picture him being a bottom into some leather and kink or fetishes especially cigars since he smokes those, and maybe big into giving oral sex?
- R367 The person didn't meet Williams at the Mineshaft, he worked at The Mineshaft. The two things happen to be mutually exclusive BTW.
- Did R327 know anything or was he just repeating gossip that he picked up from another thread on Datalounge?
- Tyler Posey loved getting kissed by the lead singer of The Ataris.
I'd love to have rough teen wolf sex with this cutie.
- Any info on Robert Wagner? He has been married, yet the rumors still circulate, esp. in the Laguna Beach area.
- Wasn't t the theory that Natalie Wood was accidentally killed because she caught wagner and walken going at it?
- The thing is, r373, that I don't understand is that if that is true, wouldn't RW have been active with other men at other times in his life? There doesn't seem to be any other info offered concerning him being gay, only vague talk that he is, no proof or names/dates/locations.
- "There doesn't seem to be any other info offered concerning him being gay, only vague talk that he is, no proof or names/dates/locations."
Um, what are you expecting? Photographs of him fucking dudes dated 3/4/75 or whatever? I don't know him personally, but the rumors about him have been around for years. Years ago someone here linked to a message board where Van Johnson's daughter was talking about how people in Hollywood knew that Wagner was gay and told Natalie Wood not to marry Wagner but she didn't listen to them
- No I don't expect photos. Your response is typical. "There have been rumors about him for years." Okay, what rumors? Who is he linked to other than the one name that comes up. I am inclined to think that the rumors are just that, rumors. Esp. since nobody ever says just what these rumors are! Any sightings in a gay bar or bath house? Any actual "rumor"? I didn't think so.
- I always thought when gay men in Hollywood marry women, the women were "in" on the deal. I thought they were always told the truth but apparently I was wrong. But even in 2013...don't the women have gaydar?
- "Okay, what rumors? Who is he linked to other than the one name that comes up."
There were a lot of rumors about him and his friend/co-star Jeffrey Hunter (to the point where he felt the need to publically deny those rumors)....but believe what you want to believe. He went out of his way to shout "I'm not gay" in his book and no one does that unless many people think they're gay.
- R377, Statistically few men are 100% faithful to their wives. The richer, more powerful, and better looking are very desirable. Most women have learned to overlook the truth, as long as they're not publicly embarrassed. These are the facts of life of marriages OUTSIDE of the entertainment world.
- The thing is, gay men are the people who keep gay celebrities in the closet. They never talk...never say a word. Are they ashamed of themselves and their actor lovers?
Straight people can't out anyone, they simply don't have the facts.
- I've heard that as well R380 that the bi/gay male or lesbian/bi female celebrities are kept closeted by their keepers or their gay male agents, PR people, studio executives/producers, etc. Also that by keeping these LGB actors/actresses closeted they hold power over them.
- Hollywood is essentially self-hating. They do terrible things, reward themselves for it, then do it again. All of them
- About Robert Wagner, I live in the Bay Area and there used to be a local show TV hosted by local film critic, Jan Wahl. She interviewed famous people here and there and sometimes there were red alert gossip bombs that were dropped since this show was small and out of the way. Once, Jan interviewed the director Laurie Jacobson who said that it is well known in Hollywood that Robert Wagner and Natalie Wood would offer various people to join them in their bedroom. She said apparently what happened on the night that Natalie died, she was angry because Robert Wagner had sex with Christopher Walken without her and she was furious and drunk accidentally falling into the water. Natalie drowned screaming for help ,but Robert and Christopher were too sexually involved to pay attention.
- You've said a mouthful, r380.
- I wouldn't be surprised if the PR people of closeted celebrities pass on fake hetero-inclined blind items about them.
- R382, Please explain you post. What "terrible thing" are you referring to?
- What we need is someone who was an insider and knows stuff. Current insiders probably wouldn't talk. That's how we could get some insight, at least about most talked people like
Clooney, Bradley Cooper, Leo, Jake, Pattinson, Timberlake
Kristen, Biel, Chastain, Mendez,...
- r385 there have been PR people on DL before that have admitted this strategy. The pussy hound image via blind item is a total winner. See Bradley Cooper blinds on CDAN.
- r387 see recent thread on Lainey for her scoop at a recent SMUT event where she outed Clooney. She's clearly not on his payroll. Jake Gyllenhaal's yes, but not Clooney.
- R389, What is "SMUT?"
I wonder if Clooney's PR team believes in the old adage that "any publicity is good publicity" and "controversy equals pap attention equals continued A-list recognition." If you look at Clooney's ridiculous choice of beards, you would truly buy both of those statements as 100% truth.
- R385 also they do it with politicians like with Al Gore having an affair with a "female masseuse" which means he's gay but that's old news but they have done this with Revolta and others.
- R391, So who's Al Gore's boyfriend/lover?
- [quote]I wouldn't be surprised if the PR people of closeted celebrities pass on fake hetero-inclined blind items about them.
They do. And worse still, GAY PR people pass on fake hetero blind items.
As for CDAN, he churns out WAY too many blinds per days to have anywhere near the truth about everybody. He'd have to be under peoples beds to have anywhere near the strike rate to match his numeorus daily BS. You can bet PR people use him as well.
Lainey, my gawd is she still shilling Jake as a NOT-GAY (hysetrical caps Lainey-lock)? She used to have a major crush on him too. Which probably accounts for her refusal to see him as anything other than her 'future husband'.
Silly woman. But rich off the back of it, no doubt.
- [quote]Hollywood is essentially self-hating. They do terrible things, reward themselves for it, then do it again. All of them
And don't forget that they meanwhile get to point fingers at their patrons ("normal people") for not caring enough about the world and its issues.
What a great business to be in, honestly. I'd totally do it if given the chance.
- Yeah, I'd love to hear from someone with actual knowledge of the sex partners of any of those widely-known but still officially closeted guys listed at r387.The women, can't say I care.
- I know a former wokerbee of Geri Halliwell. She's long maintained that Geri has a likker license and only swims in the lady pond. Asks female staff to service her sexually if one of her celeb lovers isn't around. She has slept with Mel B., Gillian Anderson, Emma Bunton and Kylie Minogue. Mel and Geri were close and swapped lovergirls, some celebrity conquests in the mix.
Complete fucking twats. That goes for Geri and all her celebrity minge divers. Bunton, Mel, Geri and Gillian are all borderline illiterates that think the little people are their slaves.
- Vin Diesel. Not sure if that's "news" but both Asia Argento and Adam Shankman told me. Also, I remember Ben Foster bragging in 2004 about how he "made out with a dude for a couple of hours." He was really surprised that he enjoyed it so much, and thought perhaps this meant he was bisexual. Well, the "dude" was JT Leroy, who turned out to be some chick in man-boy drag. So I guess Ben Foster is straight. But Vin Diesel isn't.
- Vin Diesel has been in blind items as gay/bi since around the year 2000, when he first broke out in "Pitch Black". I doubt he will ever come out.
- R387 I have a girlfriend who slept with Bradley Cooper for a few months about 10 years ago. That's why I never could get behind the gay rumors.
- J.T. was Laura Albert or Alpert but actually when JT made an appearance it was made by Laura's sister-in-law.
- I've hooked up with women in the last 10 years R399. I'm gay. But interesting scoop?
Did she mention his penis? It is supposed to be quite small.
- I've heard JustJared is on Jessica Chastain team's payroll but can't really confirm that.
- I think JustJared is on a lot of celebrities payroll
- From what I've heard from industry people, JustJared is DEFINITELY on a lot of celebs's PR payroll...especially young hollywood. He plays up a lot of the bearding celebs that we all know are bullshit. And being a little gay boy, you'd think he'd know better. But it's about money...and fame. You'll notice he's "friends" with a lot of celebs. (Yeah, because he peddles their bullshit...especially the known closeted ones). Once again, a good example of our own keeping our own closeted and protecting institutionalized homophobia.
Perez Hilton is the other. What once was a vicious queen outing people and actually calling out Hollywood on it's bullshit...he's basically no different than Jared.
From what I've heard, he's payed too. A lot of well-rumored gay/bi celebs he totally plays up as straight now.
And a lot of the other celeb blogs - Celebuzz, Hollywire, HollywoodLife, Celebtv, etc. - all the ones with those young girls interviewing and dishing on celebs (basically crushing on them like little fangirls), are all part of that bullshit.
- R404 JJ recently got a cheque from Jessica Chastain, so I'd believe it.
- Anyone know any details about Jimmy Fallon and the college boys he dated before/during SNL?
Is his current, long-term boyfriend his childhood neighbor who works on his show?
And, why did he name his female dog Gary Frick?
Also, did anyone see Howard Stern on Fallon where he stated he thinks Jimmy's gay? (Jimmy covered his mouth, which is body language meaning he didn't want to say...)
- Fallon is an interesting one. Any actual stories on him, or is it all just speculation?
- Where did you hear that JustJared was on Chastain's payroll R402? Is just an opinion from the internet or do you have real insider sources?
- Anyone have any info on Brad Pitt besides how he was Racina's houseboy? see url.
- Christopher Meloni is bisexual.
- I think Bradley Cooper is bisexual. There are too many stories of him sleeping/flirting with women. And I'm not referring to blinds. People downplay bisexuality in men but doesn't meant it isn't real. He may lean towards men I don't know, but I don't believe, based on what I've read, he's fully gay.
- Can someone post some gossip before the world ends?
- R405 did you get this from JJ himself?
Bradley might be bi. He's been with women but why did he supposedly beat Jen Esposito?
- Just as I had it on good authority a very long time ago that Cooper is gay, I have it on equally good authority that Clooney has had a serious male partner.
- R414, was Cooper's marriage fake then? I'm so confused.
- Cloony is bisexual. If Cooper beat his wife it's because he's a deeply closeted gay man who hates women.
- R416, If Clooney really is bi, then how do his "long-term male partners" handle it? Do they all swing together? Does Clooney actually sleep with any of his beards, that look so very fake? Or just with other girls? I've heard that at least 2 of Clooney's partners are actually married to women.
- R416, Was Jennifer E. also abusing alcohol or drugs? Of course it doesn't justify being beaten, or emotionally abused, it just fuels the fire of a very bad situation.
- Kal Penn, and Rahm Emanuel are both gay.
- Hillary Clinton, she's a lesbian and it's a badly kept secret. She'll NEVER come out, and her husband is bisexual and loves his white powder and junk food.
- Eric Clapton is bisexual but this has been known about for awhile.
- [quote]From what I've heard from industry people, JustJared is DEFINITELY on a lot of celebs's PR payroll...especially young hollywood.
I'd definitely believe that. He seems to be the site PR people turn to when they have an up-and-coming celeb that they want to get some publicity for. The most obvious clue is how he writes about barely known people as if they're A-listers.
[quote]He plays up a lot of the bearding celebs that we all know are bullshit.
I've noticed that as well. And the frau fans on the site actually believe the bullshit too.
- I never knew about Clapton. Any good stories with other rockers?
- Watch jj post hundreds of thousands of articles' about the loving couple, henry and gina ^_^
- R424 It's sad, isn't it? Same with the endless articles about Gerard Butler and his "girlfriend". JJ is so transparent.
- I'm really interested in Jimmy Fallon. I always thought he was gay but then he got married...what's the deal?
- Clapton is straight.
- Any knowledge of non-actors (directors, producers, studio execs) who are gay or bi?
- Just Jared isn't gossip anymore, though, right? It's become the People Magazine of the online world - all sanitized, approved versions of things. Didn't used to be that way - see link.
- R429 Correct. It seems to be basically just a site for PR people to have HQ photos of their clients posted along with "cute" pointless tidbits for the fraus to say "Awww!'.
- JJ isn't really gossip. The articles are basically nothing. It's just a place to get HQ photos of celebs. Also who the hell uses the word "frau" these days?
- R427, I think Mick Jagger would disagree with that.
- Someone on another site came across J. Esposito in NY. She tried asking about B. Cooper but Esposito was very mum. Only thing she would say about him was, she couldn't believe "a person like him" became a star. The following comments speculated Cooper isn't what/who he appears to be.
Sounds to me like he treated her like shit. I believe the abuse rumors.
- Clapton admitted himself that he had a couple of sexual affairs with men in the 60s. Clapton said he experimented back then like so many others. However, truly straight guys can't experiment with the same sex like that so Clapton must have a bi side to him. Please, don't get into a discussion about straight guys can go bi blah, blah, blah. There is already a thread on that subject. So OP, carry on and spill the goods!
BTW, Where are all the insider dirt on this threat about British actor fairies, Canadian actor fairies, sport player fairies, and the golden age of Hollywood movie star fairies, in addition to the younger celebrities? Again, like OP said, trustworthy sources and firsthand hand knowledge. As far as as the old movie stars, anyone knew or know some older fag or relative etc. who knew or knows stuff? about gay stuff on the old movie stars? Come on! spill! There is a lot more to cover!
- BTW OP, we might need a Part 4 soon.
- [quote]Also who the hell uses the word "frau" these days?
Everyone but you I guess.
- "Was Jennifer E. also abusing alcohol or drugs? "
Jennifer Esposito has been very sick for many years with gluten intolerance, most of the asshole doctors she saw over the years, were clueless about what tests to run. She was treated for illnesses she di not have.
Since she had gotten very thin at one point, many thought she was a druggie or alcoholic. She also lost a lot of her hair, when she was on Christina Applegate's first sitcom, she needed to wear a wig.
In fact, her gluten intolerance is so bad, she was fired from "Blue Bloods". IIRC, she can't even use dishes or utensils which might have had gluten products on them.
If you want to read about her struggles with gluten, read Jennifer's blog.
As for Bradley Cooper, in most TV interviews, he comes across as fake and super smarmy. I also don't get all the hoopla over his looks, he looks like a bird! Horrible nose.
- So Bradley Cooper is supposedly Topher Hairy-Tuchus (blind vice - see link).
the basics... mostly gay, into anonymous sex, extremely horny, permanently non-committed...
- I couldn't agree with you more R437 about Bradley Cooper. His looks are way over rated and I notice the big nose too. However, some guys with large noses are handsome ,but this guy ain't one of them. Also, there is something about his looks, he looks like a big queen ,which is a major turn off.
R437, thank you for sharing about Jennifer Esposito. Poor thing, she must be going through hell.
Really r421? I've never heard that about Clapton and I've been a fan for almost 40 years!
Ant scoop on Jimmy Page? I've always thought he was beautiful in his younger days.
- Clapton is straight.
- Page is a p-hound although he may have very briefly experimented back in the 70s, like everyone else.
His main thing is bdsm, as both a dom and sub I hear depending on his partner.
- Sorry I think you fairies dont understand this thread. So once again... Re: Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
Not what you think. What you believe. Not existential debates about what is straight gay or bi. Not about Jennifer Espisito gluten intolerance. wtf! Not about Coopers looks. Again:
Re: Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
- Does anyone know what's going on with Jared Padalecki and his strange "bodyguard"?
- R440 a book on bisexuality outed Clapton I think it was titled Bisexuality and the Eroticism of Everyday Life by Marjorie Garber.
- Anyone start a part 4 for this thread, since it will soon be filled.
- Just die already, R443
- R446, We usually don't start threads until they're just about full. I'll definitely start a new one then; I started this continuation.
- Matt and Ben, Matt and Ben, Matt and Ben!
- What is so fascinating about Chastain is that there are no deets about her love life. I only recall one insider claiming she and her boyfriend had kind of a business arrangement, though they are both straight. The only lesbian rumors are wishful thinking of desperate L chat posters and one Michael Musto's blind, that could be about Rooney and Amy Pascal for all we know. Chastain strikes me more as an asexual workholic... c'mon if she was next Jodie Foster, there already would be tons of gossips or people spilling the beans about past hookups.
- While Jessica Chastain is gorgeous and a decent actress, I'd be thrilled if she were family but she doesn't ping for me in the least...
- r450 r451. Sorry dear queers. but WTF.
Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
We dont care what you think or believe about Miss Chastain. Re read title of thread then twirl your mu mu and try again.
- People please stop just dropping names and give us stories.
You know— show, don't tell, as it were.
- R452, stick your head up your ass, you control freak. All you do is make me want to post about unrelated bullshit.
Jessica Chastain is lovely. I especially like that pronounced chin dimple. I just saw that Guillermo del Tormo film with her and I thought she was great and it was exquisitely directed. The shadows, oh the shadows! She had great chemistry with the dude from GOT. Perhaps there was a little offscreen romance. Hmmmmmmm?
- i don't know what's more annoying about this thread, the pointless diversions or the shrill hall monitor trying to get people back on topic.
- I dont know whats more annoying. People who still dont grasp the topic of this thread, and then hate on a bitch who hates coming back to this thread and reading peoples OPINIONS AND WHAT THEY THINK. Stay on topic or fuck off. Bitches like me wouldnt exist if datalounge wasnt so sloppy. SO NO IM NOT VANISHING. AGAIN FOR THE DUMB BITCHES IN THE BACK!
Re: Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
GOT BEEF? MAKE A BURGER WHORES!
- R455, easy. the delusional Hall monitor who somehow believes that his incessant rants and bitchiness makes people want to come forward with their gossip. The first two editions of this thread were better because that asshole was absent for much of it... If there were diversions, they were short lived and the thread eventually steered back to the topic on its own.
- [quote][R387] I have a girlfriend who slept with Bradley Cooper for a few months about 10 years ago. That's why I never could get behind the gay rumors.
Well a lot can change in ten whole years. Someone spending a small window of time with someone versus the whole of their life does not define them in entirety. How can it?
As of course, neither does gay gossip that remains just gossip.
- I'm committing the sin of cross-posting. Forgive me.
RE: Bo Derek.
Oh the stories I could tell. I'll make it short. Bo is another former Hollywood porn worker and callgirl. Her girlfriend before she hit it big was indeed Annette Haven. Annette was also a callgirl and a name in the porn industry. They were lovers through "10" if not beyond.
Bo took many other women as lovers. The stories from "Tarzan the Ape Man" about her exploits with many of the gorgeous extras were common knowledge in Hollywood when she was big.
I procured girls for her a couple of times. She had an eye for Suze Randall talent.
RE: Tom Selleck
When he was big he would cruise the bars for men. Sometimes for the youth other times for rough trade.
After the Raiders fiasco he became more of a diva and more indiscreet. Since settling into the role of tv star/conservative icon he's ordered in more often and stayed out of places where he could be outed. Hence the stories have dried up.
In the past he'd order pricey men and women, then have sex with the men. The women would either be for guests or just as cover.
- thanks r459
what do you know about Cruise? I heard that when he and Paula Wagner were at the top of their power in LA, he would "produce" films with guys he was attracted to, usually the "next big thing' type of guy... and bed them.
The public never connected the dots because Tom Cruise wasn't in many of the films they produced and only was credited with a production credit.
do you know if its true?
- [quote]You know— show, don't tell, as it were.
Never going to happen unless someone is bitter toward a celebrity they knew or know first-hand AND doesn't know or care that giving such info. makes them highly identifiable to at least one person.
And even when that happens, recipients of the stories tend to be doubtful. They WILL tend to keep believing only what they wish to be true. In addition, conflicting stories because of contradictory behaviors and perceptions are the norm for many.
And that's why the hall monitor is doubly annoying. Fluff is the substance, if you will, of these threads.
- r459, what is the Raiders fiasco you are referring to regarding Tom?
r459 must be referring to the fact that Selleck had to turn down "Raiders Of The Lost Arc" - a franchise that could have possibly turned him into a huge film star - because he was already committed and signed, by a matter of days, to "Magnum P.I." and the schedules could not be worked out.
After seeing what the Trilogy did for Harrison Ford's career, I'm sure Selleck must have had his alcoholic moments. (Though he didn't fare that badly as a TV star, mind you)
- what thread was R459's post cross-posted from?
- R459, What's the real story of how John Derek hooked up with Bo? Creepy how all of his girls looked alike. Did Bo naturally look like a perfect "10" or did she have plastic surgery? Were the extras on Tarzan specially chosen for her? Did she have any brains? What happened to her acting career?
- Did Bo Derek have brains?
She supported W in both elections.
She is one of the martyred conservatives who claim they can't get work because of their beliefs.
- R466, OMG. I can't believe she's that delusional.
- Anyone missing from this list? It has always surprised me the ones who are on the DL and show up in gay clubs in multiple cities and yet deny they are gay...
...It is more evidence that being gay is not a "lifestyle choice" but something innate.
- "Page is a p-hound although he may have very briefly experimented back in the 70s, like everyone else.
His main thing is bdsm, as both a dom and sub I hear depending on his partner."
Is this post by Magdalene, the groupie BDSM sex worker who used to post here? She would claim that pretty much every rocker was into BDSM, which is a bit much.
From my sources, the rumors about Jimmy Page were mostly in keeping with Zeppelin's mysterious rumor filled image.
Zeppelin were one of the very few rock bands who managed to keep their personal life and underage groupie antics on the down low for many years, of course, this was very easy to do pre Internet etc.
Jimmy Page said his autobiography will be released upon his death. He had a photo autobiography released a few years ago, but his fans want all the dirt, not just photos.
As for the wackos here insisting this thread stay 'on topic', they must be newbies, very rarely has ANY DL thread stayed on topic. What moronic control freaks! Simmer down.
- UGH elders have taken this thread over. I wish people would stay on topic. Datalounge is so over. It should be called Threaderailounge.com cuz aint no data here!
- RE: Bo and John
I see some are bringing up Bo's conservative politics. A crock...or maybe the hypocrisy is the point.
If people want to understand the world these two lived in (indeed, the world of The Celebrity) they should watch John's film "Love You!". It's actually a porn which Bo helped to cast. She insisted that her lover Annette be the female lead.
It's a porn that tries to present its sex as commentary. In this case, it's a confessional: partner swapping. Both Bo and John were longtime swingers, with Bo coming into their relationship with the understanding that she would continue her romance with Annette.
Bo was a constant presence during filming, watching her lover have sex with other men. Often the two women had sex before Annette shot a scene.
So much for the type of Republican morals that got her spots on Fox News, huh? But I suppose the channel is full of such lies...look at O'Reilly and Palin (both serial adulterers).
"Tarzan" was a somewhat similar shoot. Only this time with Bo in front of the camera. I know many of the people that were present for the shoot, and it was described as the most erotic set they'd been on. Bo was in a state of ecstasy for the moments where she's washed; it was a long shoot with the native women running their hands over her butt, breasts and genitals. The film was cut down to get in theaters but the shoot itself was excessively sexual. Bo was for all intents enjoying foreplay with these women, and slept with some of them off-camera.
Most people hate both these films. For those of us in the industry they aren't, I guess, high art but they are worthwhile confessionals about the real Hollywood. How close the legitimate, mainstream business really is to those of us that have worked more XXX than Oscar winners. At the end of the day, many porn stars have shared beds with major stars. Often the porn stars and celebs were of the same gender.
Over the years, Bo has pretended these films - especially "Love You!" - didn't happen. They certainly don't go with her current image. Nor does her interest in women.
Sorry if this is boring. It might be only interesting to those of us who know the background of business and the figures in it.
I'll get to the closeted men in my next post.
- R471, could Bo have become conservative as she got older? I have heard people change in their lives like that sometimes. Also, I forget her boyfriend's name she lives with now but he is younger than her right? He is really handsome. Is he gay?
Also, I once read that Ester Williams said that in the old days in Hollywood, everybody played musical chairs bed hopping from partner to partner. Is Hollywood still like that now a days? or has that type of promiscuity died down to an extent verses the golden era of Hollywood?
BTW,I can't wait until you post the closeted men! great gossip!
- R471--not boring at all. Quite the opposite!
Keep it comin'!!
- look at O'Reilly and Palin (both serial adulterers).
R471, how do you know they are serial adulterers?
- Now I'm starting to wonder if Bo did Julie Andrews.
- Anything on closeted actresses, R471?
- R471 Bo was bi for years before becoming a right winger in her older age.It's funny how kinky are in their younger age and then become that harpie of an aunt you loved to hate.She evened dated the queen of all closet queens,Dave Dreier, at one time.
O'Reilly, a serial adulterer? I had heard from someone who worked at Fox that he can be an asshole BUT a philanderer?!I don't know about that.
Palin is a crazy cunt but she is hot so it's no surprise that randy right wing hypocrites would try to fuck her. The question is...who have been her supposed lovers WHILE she's been married to Todd. She had fooled around with a woman BUT I haven't heard anything lesbionic about her lately.
- R477, I don't buy Palin has affairs. Just because you have deep hatred for her doesn't count. I have heard she doesn't play around ,and she truly is faithful in her marriage.
- R478 What are you talking about? I only talked about guys trying to fuck her. I wanted to know who her supposed lovers were. Oh one more thing you little right wingnut closeted queen, go to Faux News and post there.They have far more sympathy for that dumb cunt over there. Oh i forget they let that dumb as doornail idiot go...what a surprise! When she was too stupid for Faux News then you know she was a complete dope.
- R479, just because I made that statement I'm a right winger? Stick dynamite up your ass and light it! You'll do humanity a favor you complete miserable loser!
- Todd Palin and Levi Johnston are gay.
- LOL R469 I remember Magdalene she claimed to be a dominatrix which is just another term for being a whore/hooker and claimed that pretty much ALL rock stars are into BDSM or into it at the level that they would go to a professional whore/Dominatrix or male Master, and yeah it is a bit too much and she was talking out of her ass for most of it.
- Todd Palin and Levi Johnson - opinion or do you know this directly and so how?
- Heard that Bill O'Reilly was accused of trying to engage in phone sex with inappropriate parties. True?
Never could put Sarah Palin and "hot" in the same sentence. Wasn't it Levi Johnston
who claimed that she never slept near her husband but that a divorce would kill her conservative moral reputation?
- Do you think being wild/bi/slutty is a requirement for actresses? Are all men the same? Why would beautiful ladies like Bo Derek, like Cindy Crawford, choose porn actresses for sex partners?
- Well, r487, who wouldn't want a hot porn actor as a sex partner.
- Glen Beck is gay.
Justin Bieber is gay but it's obvious, the same goes for Culkin.
- R488, A porn star is the very last person I'd ever want in my bed. With all due respect to porn stars, the risk of catching a disease is way too high. Like strippers, their rep of being serious alcoholics and drug users is a very big red flag.
In addition I don't believe that those who see sex as a monetary transaction truly enjoy physical pleasure. It's a fantasy that they are skilled at what they do. Otherwise why would so many be heavily "out-of-it" when being filmed?
- R489, I'd sooner take your word for it that Bieber or Culkin is gay, rather than Glen Beck. Not saying any of it is true or false either way.
Haven't heard any rumors or stories about Beck. Is it just because he's way off the deep end and a ex-alcoholic, and now supposedly a faithful Mormon?
- Google Bill O'Reilly and sex scandal and you'll get a treasure trove. He was sued by someone for harassment for the one-way phone sex he kept hounding her with, the transcripts were hilarious.
At one point the audiotapes were online but not sure if they still are. The guy is a total kinky p-hound perv. Actually made me like him a bit.
- R481 Sarah Palin is a dumb cunt and so are you! Go away and haunt Freeperville.
R492 Billo had an employee with whom he had a randy repartee type of relationship with. She left Fox and then came back! The phone sex relationship continued. If she was so upset why did she leave Fox for another job THEN come back to work with him again. It seems like it was warranted and she liked it! In essence she was a duplicitous sack of shit. that's not to say that Billo is not a cunt, he's a nasty one. That one lawsuits is a joke because the woman in question didn't object to the behavior the first time around left then came back for more.
- Any word on Steven Spielberg or George Lucas? Michael Bay? (Rumored to be very well endowed but bit of a womanizer.). Robert Iger or other studio heads?
- R327, Love all of your posts. Didn't understand the following:
". . .if it's decided that one of her girls should become a mainstream star."
Of all the "models" that play "the Hollywood game" and screw everyone," what and who determines which become a mainstream star? Exactly what factors come into play?
- Any stories about Tom Selleck left?
- Re: Part 3 of Celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge Please keep posting.
- Any one out there care to share info and stories about Rock Hudson? Was he a top, a bottom, hung, what was he into?
I had a crush on him as a teen and young man. I guess I still am in awe of him. There is a site out there that is selling items from his estate. It's times like this that make me wish money wasn't so tight right now.
What was he like as a person? He struck me as being a big, compassionate hunk. He came across to me as a man's man, no bs to him. Was he like that? Was he arrogant? What was he like?
Was he cut or uncut?
- r494, what did you want to know about Bay?
- r498 you need to go back on this thread (maybe even to parts 1 or 2). It's all in there. The runaway who remembers his leather car seats and was talked by Hudson into going back home, etc etc
- I remember the post about the runaway and the car, but I wondered if there was some more personal info about what the man was like personality wise. Off-screen, was he as nice as made to seem, or was that publicity or was he a nasty old queen?
I am guessing he was a bottom, I don't know why I say that.
- R499, has Bay been known to indulge in same-sex escapades, at least letting guys blow him for casting opportunities? Also, any truth that he's very well hung?
- R502 He basically "lives" at the Playboy mansion when he's not shooting so I don't think he hangs out there for the cock! I haven't heard anything gay about the man. He was upset that Megan Fox shouldn't fuck him so that says something about him. he was a dick about it to boot.
- R504, So why doesn't Bay cast more Playboy Bunnies in his flicks? Does he actually pay for pussy?
- R504 Hefner has a strict policy these days of not allowing the Playboy girls to be engaged in escorting.However there are those that fall through the cracks..... Someone like Bay or Bill Maher will hook up with women there just because of their fame/infamy.
- R506, I heard that all of Hef's girlfriends escort on the side for the right price and with the right powerful/famous men. Also that men go to hook up with other men/groups.
When the Playboy Nightclub "Moon" was still at the Palms, "Sugar Daddy" parties were regularly held for high rollers. For the admission fee of $10 or $20,000, introductions were made.
Palms also employs many very obvious twinks and studs, and not just for room service waiters. They're very highly paid, and get fab tips. At least one of the previous owners was said to indulge as well.
- R506 I heard that Maher doesn't do that kind of thing anymore.
- r508 that's because he's such a douche to women. They all know that now and won't hook up with his ugly ass.
- Are people saying here that Bo Derek WASN'T spotted by John on a beach as a 16-yr-old school drop-out, an event that led to his divorce from Linda? Was she in porn then? Porn after she met John?
- R510, That's what we love DL, to learn the truth behind the pap headlines. If Bo was a bisexual swinger, then how about her older look-a-likes, Linda Evans and Ursula Andress?
- R509 my understanding is that he became bored with the Playboy stuff and prefers dating, and I believe he's involved with someone now.
- R459 so what is Tommy into sexually with men?
What's the Raiders fiasco?
- Is Tom Selleck cut or does he have a foreskin?
- R507 Um, Hugh got married. There have been women in his harem that have escorted in the past though. Men on men...not so much. Women on women,that happens a lot and famous women get involved there.
R508 Bill Maher is a cunt. He treats women like shit. He likes black women BUT doesn't mind putting them in their place by calling them ghetto!
- Hugh Hefner is apparently bisexual since he has had sex with men and when he has sex with his harem of playmates he puts on gay porn to watch.
- Maher is a little prick but at least he has a brain and I appreciate that.
- I will never pay to see a Bay film because of the way he treats women...I have no idea why anyone pays to see his films.
- Is part 4 of this thread up already and if so, can someone link to it please, or put the link at the end before we reach the limit? Thank you!
- I have some questions for the person who worked for Suze Randall, Hugh Hefner, Larry Flynt, and who has worked in the entertainment industry for 40 years(feel free to respond in the next thread if you can't respond earlier). Also, thank you very much for the amazing information!!!! Some of the best in DL history.
1) Are pretty much most of the stars we see just literal whores who sleep with men or women to maintain/advance a career(even when already successful)?
2) Can you expand on how extensive it is and if it is seen as normal amongst the actors? What percentage of actors do this?
3) Do they know this before they get into it? When being courted into getting into real Hollywood productions?
4) Are they abused?
5) What percentage of celebs would you say are actively gay?
I've always perceived women like Madonna, Britney Spears, Lindsay Lohan, and probably many more attractive and put together women than these as probably just being passed around for sex by those in power, and suspect they've been abused by these same people. Just a hunch.
- THE ELDERS HAVE COMPLETELY MOLLYWHOOPED THIS THREAD. THE BOOMERS ARE HERE! RUN AINT NOTHING TO SEE HERE ANYMORE!
- I love the celebrities cocksucker troll. She actually seems to believe all this. Keep posting!
- Also for the Suze Randall poster, could you please go by a nickname so we can refer to you and your posts more easily? If you don't want to, then no problem.
Some more questions if you don't mind. I find this to be endlessly fascinating, the way the machine works, pulling the curtain up and ending the charade, and I think you've hit on something very substantial, things many of us here always suspected but could never verify. You could write a book on this, no doubt(and it would never get published).
Forgive me for my extensive questions, I'm just finally seeing someone who's seen it firsthand and I'm just looking for clarity about what really goes on and how it works. The idea that Hollywood is all smoke and mirrors and is basically run by organized crime would be quite a wake up call for 99% of people.
6) So the entire thing about actors being gays/bis/gay for pay people willing to whore themselves out is because is just a huge blackmail operation, correct? And then they let the stars indulge to their heart's desire, let the dirt accumulate, but hide it from the public to the stars approval, only to have MORE secrets to hold over them for control, correct?
It's pretty amazing. This also explains why most stars(even the ones lauded as talented and as having personal substance) strike me as being very fake, and emotionally shallow, like empty voids rather than an actual person. They almost never come across as soulful artists concerned with trying to get across emotional depth(yeah right, in a CGI superhero movie or RomCom, Hollywood's output is abominable).
It's because they are simply blackmailed whores for hire. There is something very wrong with someone who genuinely wants to become famous. I think they choose 'troubled' people with major issues to become famous, easier to control, easier to have them say and do what you want in public.
7) Was Michelle Pfeiffer one of the whores? A lot of DLers have wondered about this. She's had prostitution rumors(and of course was a model) and she famously eluded to being involved with a controlling cult about dieting or something(probably just a front for what you are talking about). Tip for DLers: Scientology is just a front and a 'bad press magnet' to distract people from the powers that be. If not, it wouldn't be so endlessly derided and 'exposed' in the media.
8) You talked about 'talent' being found by Suze Randall, Hugh Hefner, and others, and these people being the pool from which models/actors are chosen from to become mainstream stars. I have a few questions about this. What percentage of the actors we see come from this kind of background?
9) Are the people coming from a Suze Randall type background before being famous just people who did nude modeling or maybe softcore, or were they doing hardcore pics/videos?
9) Aside from the material they were doing, or even if it wasn't hardcore, were they all still whores who were having sex with the right people/or were pimped out in order to advance or have a chance to advance(like sex with Warren Beatty)? You mentioned Virginia Madsen, Courteney Cox, Kim Basinger and Cindy Morgan. I just want to know what kind of things they and other similar people had to do.
- 10) Do you have a large list of all the men and women that were doing nude modeling/hardcore, or private sex favors early on before becoming celebrities? We'd love to see it, I'm sure there are many many more!
11) Did a lot of these people with Suze Randall and similar porn people have sex with others with the fame carrot dangled, but never became famous(were lead on)? I'd imagine only a minority of these exploited people become famous.
12) Would you describe these people as being willing sex workers, or abused/controlled/trapped against their will? What percentage are there of each?
13) Regarding actors who didn't start out this way. Will actors in their 20's like Emma Watson, Emma Stone, and Kirsten Dunst wake up one day after a few years of success and all of a sudden have powerful people pressuring them to have sex with them or with others? Do they have to do that to stay in the game? I mentioned females because I suspect it's easier to lead them into sex, or into modeling, then into softcore, and then into sex. Could be wrong though.
14)Do a lot of these people who are used as whores(mostly non famous ones) end up dead or 'disappeared'(Like in Eyes Wide Shut where the media pretends the prostitute died of a drug overdose, when she was really murdered)? It's no coincidence that the two leads in EWS were Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman given the subject matter, I think. I bet they've been passed around. Perhaps that wasn't Tom's first time at a sex party for powerful people...
15) Very sad to hear about Suze Randall, Nicholson, and those types of creeps. So you are pretty much verifying what Corey Feldman has said, correct? You said that there are huge rings that would've been exposed had Polanski not been exiled, and you said Polanski wasn't the one running things or throwing the parties... Who was then??? Can you give us some names(famous or not) of people involved in this, or at least an idea of what type of people would have the power to cover it up without media/government exposure? Or just give hints/allusions?
- R519, When there are almost 600 posts, I'll start a new thread. I was the poster that started this one.
- You are welcome. I'm also the person asking about the Suze Randall poster. I appreciate all the things people do for others online. Most people think they are 'above' kindness or doing things for others these days.
- R523, R524, Really appreciate your posts. To help the "knowledgeable poster" along, I'd like to add just a little info. Before SAG took over the union extras, SEG, Screen Extras Guild, was the start for many wannabe actors.
To get more union extra work, you had to be "requested." If you were not related to a powerful industry player, the quickest way to get lots of work was for the beautiful young talent to go to the parties. When asked what went on at the parties I was told, "what no street hooker on Hollywood Blvd would agree to do." Drugs, such as qualudes, were plentiful, as was liquor. On-set, girls and guys were regularly expected to give crew members free BJ's in exchange for more extra jobs.
Some of the talent claimed to really enjoy their elevated status, and even got small principal parts in this manner. Many tried to seduce the directors; after all didn't Marilyn Monroe start this way?
- So do all of these guys that men and women have to have sex with look and act like Ron Jeremy by any chance?
- "If you want the part, then you better show Joel a good time..."
- R528 no they look like Merv Griffin!
- R527 Joan Crawford and Clark Gable did too, they were both bisexual but that's old info.
- R529, There are tons of beautiful young girls and guys that would give Joel, or literally anyone else, a good time for even a union extra or day player role. Why would he then choose one person over another? What's the guarantee that Joel would actually come through with the job in exchange for sex?
- Good info R527. So what various types of crew members did these people have to blow? Do most directors receive this type of treatment? Even when someone already has a part, is it not unusual for an actor to offer their 'services' to someone like a director to maybe get more screentime or further ingratiate themselves somehow?
- It sounds like you have to sell your soul to a bunch of freaks to get somewhere in this industry. It's not worth it.
- Why would beautiful young people degrade themselves by having sex with someone like Joel? I'll never understand it. Are they so brainwashed by the illusion of movies and fame(and the movies being made SUCK) that they think it's special to see themselves onscreen and rub it in the faces of the people back home?
They're going to wake up one day hating themselves knowing the whole thing was a scam. And everyone else around them just sees them as a whore.
- R532, since you say there are tons of people that would have sex with anybody, no matter how hideous, just for a very quick and small extra role, does this mean that everyone who is a star who didn't have powerful connections to begin with(most of them) is just an ENORMOUS WHORE? I mean, if people are willing to do that just for extra work, it really makes you wonder about the famous actors...
- People refer to the LA porn industry as 'The other Hollywood'. This is probably what a lot of the wannabe actors get funneled into. The real actors are probably doing the same thing, the difference is that it isn't shown to the general public on the internet and on DVD's.
- Well Wilford Brimley didn't become Hollywood's golden boy for nothing.
- Why you bitching about Joel Silver? What about Scott Rudin or Sandy Gallin or Joel Schumacher?
- Who would complain about those hunks, R539?
- r505, Bay has shot the VSecret commercials for years. He prefers to sleep with and cast models now (Rosie Huntington-Whiteley and Bar Pali sp?).
The only things I heard remotely gay were allegedly he had nude photos taken when he was young and trying to break in as an actor. That struck me as odd for a male. He had them scrubbed after he became famous.
He also, allegedly of course, had a couple of private meetings with Jerry Bruckheimer to "discuss his reel" in order to be hired.
I never heard anything after that.
- Wait a second, are you people saying that Keanu Reeves isn't really an actor?
- You're right. What was I thinking?
- It would be hilarious if a Sean Cody actor eventually won an Oscar. Oh wait, maybe one already has!!!
- I know of someone who thinks that straight women are turned into lesbians by being actors in Hollywood and hanging around on the scene.
- Yull nevah werk in this town again, nevah!
- You must understand that many would do literally anything to see themselves in a film as an extra, even for a second. Across America naive wannabes are paying huge sums for the privilege.
Many falsely assume that anyone on the set has power to get them more work. Like a new assistant trying to seduce her/his boss or the company owner, wannabes don't just aim for the stars. Some crew members take advantage of that fact, and aggressively solicit anyone remotely appealing.
Those that have spent thousands of dollars on years of training, are no different. Who wants to give up their dreams? Short cuts are appealing. Actors are needy and seek validation of their talent and their looks.
- Does anyone remember when teen porno actress Tracy Lords tried to go mainstream? She had used a fake ID to do porn when she was underage, so that all but her last XXX flick had to be shelved. She only got a few gigs in some hard R rated films. Disney was too conservative to ever even consider hiring her.
Supposedly the industry won't use Sean Cody models, as they're alternate X career is too visible to be hidden. Of course there's also the assumption that once a performer gets into X, they've got serious drug and alcohol problems.
- R544, Which prior Sean Cody model won an Oscar?
- I was watching a 'making of' documentary for Alien 3, which was directed by David FIncher. I've seen recent interviews him, so I was very surprised to see how much more [childish epithet posted by a bigoted tool] he obviously was in 1991 when the movie was filming. The guy is obviously guy. Plus those Madonna videos...and then I so him winning some MTV award circa 1990 for best video/best director or something, when he walked up to accept the award, the body language was VERY gay. He's tried to tone it down I think, maybe to hide.
Speaking of him, his relationship with Rooney Mara from Dragon Tattoo is weird, but I'm doubtful that he's into the ladies. Her blank tone makes you wonder what is going on with her...very odd.
But on the other hand, she may've been one of the few who 'had a connection' and got to bypass the sex stuff because her family is mega rich. But it still does seem like he's controlling her and she's under some kind of spell.
Actors just seem WEIRD to me, while the people of people seem like abusive creeps. Acting is a weird thing to do when you don't romanticize it and see it for what it is.
- "Actors are needy and seek validation of their talent and their looks."
This is what turns me off about actors in general and perhaps celebrities in particular. They seem some needy and desirous of attention, being 'on', being very ambitious, doing and saying 'the right things', fitting in, and so on. In other words, shallow.
It's like all of the hated popular kids who acted like jerks in high school and had big egos are all of a sudden given validation with the Hollywood equivalent, and it's okay to think the celebrities are cool, but it's just like the school's biggest assholes getting in front of the public eye and being worshiped.
Very disheartening and pathetic. Certainly not trashing outgoing people in general(the nice ones without the arrogance and presumptuousness), but most of these people strike me as being the same type everyone loathes when young. Just loud and without introspection.
So desperate to fit in and tell each other how cool they are, and the public buys it hook line and sinker believing that there really is something special about them.
Perhaps my biggest problem with the strong majority of actors is that they don't seem to have a core, a strong personality, or a real inner self. They just seem like voids who will be anything to anyone with power. No grit or heart. I think there is something seriously wrong with most of them.
- R550, R551, Especially for girls, being passive and a people pleaser is a requirement for getting acting jobs in Hollywood. Don't forget most directors are real control freaks. Understandably they don't want to deal with a celeb demanding extra takes, arguing about how a scene should look, or not doing what is asked at all times. Until you're a star with clout, you had better adopt a fairly passive persona. That's why so many actors don't seem to be very intelligent. Smarts is assumed to equal a desire for control.
- I know for a fact that Rachel Jaentel is a lesbian. The is the gossip gold that all of the lesbians have been waiting for!
- [quote]I think there is something seriously wrong with most of them.
You're not wrong. Not just getting into the profession, but staying in it, says some pretty unmistakable things about any person who does, even if he or she is generally nice.
Whoever indicated that extras pay money to be extras...that's inaccurate regarding professional projects. Also, if you're looking to be a production assistant (brutal) to network your way up, AND you have a film background, AND you behave on set AND show competence, AND listen to people talk about themselves (never talk about yourself), you may actually benefit as an extra by being noticed by someone...but only for menial crew. Just thought I'd clarify. Anyone who's regularly a real extra probably knows that they won't end up being "discovered." An actor approaching one for sex, however, is not a complete impossibility, if improbable.
- any story from Henry Czerny, the Conrad from "Revenge? I think this man emanates an amazing masculinity.
- R555, A union extra shouldn't have to pay for work, after they've paid union dues. However many union extras will tell you that they've paid hidden fees, such as for calling services with tie-ins to casting directors, or for very specific pictures, beyond the standard 8x10 or 3x5.
Non-union extras are often willing to pay large fees just to be on a movie set.
Both union and non-union extras have paid and continue to pay huge bribes or have given extravagant gifts to get on a set. The exchange of sex for day player roles is also very common. Many things go on that aren't legal or kosher. Often it's the newbie during the offering too.
- They don't seem to go on in Georgia.
- While chatting with someone on cam on realjock, I found out about Seann William Scott. I was chatting with a high-profile hair stylist who was originally from London but living in LA. He told me that back when American Pie came out (the first version) he hooked up with Seann in a hotel for a 1 night stand after doing some of the cast's hair for the red carpet premiere. The hair stylist guy is in his mid 40s btw. He was good looking and had a nice body so I believe him, and he only told me after I asked if he had ever hooked up with a star. I asked about how the sex was, and he told me Seann seemed really nervous, unsure, but the penetration part was good. He thinks Seann is either bi or just closted gay.
- Well, don't leave us guessing, r559! Who penetrated whom?!!!
- R560 Seann topped and was too nervous/anxious so this guy didn't ask about reversing it. He said he seemed like he wanted to do more but was too scared.
- Thanks r559!
- I'm interested in Rihanna's antics with women. Brown being gay is not shocking at all.
- oh I'm sure Rihanna has hooked up with girls.
- I'm not surprised that Seann and Brown are both gay...too many reports about them already.
- Rihanna is deffo not 100% straight, she was checking out all the victoria secret models in her diamonds performance at the vs fashion show.
- The same exact thing we are describing in Hollywood(controlling actors through blackmail, mostly relating to sexuality) is the same system used for politicians and media figures. Hilarious how DLers never comment on this. And guess who's pulling the strings?
Same people as in Hollywood.
- R567, Who's pulling the strings in both cases? Those with money or the Mob?
- r505, Bay usually doesn't get it unless he pays for it.
He's blunt to the point of autism, has no social skills (Megan Fox was spot on), is old and has a brutal work schedule.
Allegedly, he also does a shit ton of coke and has very long but narrow dick-not something you'd give a casual BJ.
Between having a big dick and being one, only the pros will do him.
- Oh, and he's got a cheap rep, too.
Actresses used to do him for roles, now they just got smart (like Megan Fox) and do the execs/producers.
- [quote]Of course there's also the assumption that once a performer gets into X, they've got serious drug and alcohol problems.
That usually is the case R458 a lot of people in porn gay, bi, and hetero are into drugs and sex for pay and it's been this way for decades.
- R66, I check out women hardcore, but I only sleep with men. I like looking, and occasionally fantasize about sex with a woman, but I actually get off and am usually oriented to males. I've lived a straight life. Have only messed around with women briefly. Couple times in my early 20s. Once as a teenager.
My point? Maybe I'm bi, but I don't want to have actual sex with women. I do like looking, and occasionally imagining sucking their tits. But downstairs I like a dick. Maybe that's the case with Rihanna or another celeb who checks out their own gender.
- Any stories on Lee Majors? It is rumored he is or was gay, but he's been married 4 times. They can't all be beards. Any actual info/experiences?
Some Internet sources claim that Rock Hudson introduced him to Hollywood, yet there is no mention of this on Wikipedia. Is it rumor or fact?
The difference is Rihanna is having sex with women, as opposed to just looking at them.
- [R459] so what is Tommy into sexually with men?
What's the Raiders fiasco?
- Brown beat a woman up ALLEGEDLY because she knew he was fucking Omarion or Bow Wow.
Now look at it this way: he's still on the radar, the others...not so much.
People still talk about him re:the "fight", she goes along for the ride since it keeps her in the press.
Isn't reality tv the same as what we're really fed by mass media?
This is why they stay in the closet. Sheep.
NOW is the time to out these assholes, or give them the OK to do it themselves.
- I've seen Shemar Moore get cozy with another man. I don't know how to prove this though! I didn't really care to take pictures or anything, I'm not into African guys.
R577. Chris beat that girl like dog. No allegedly about it. He is a crazed lunatic who is fortunate to still have a career. He must be sucking some major industry cock to still have a record contract. Rihanna can't keep him relevant forever.
- Picture of Chris Brown with Kardashians and supposed industry pimp mama, Diana Jenkins at an Elton John party. Guess they were all working that night. Lol.
- R572 I believe that also. It was very interesting when that girl Natasha Burton went public about having a brief relationship with an 'International pop star from Barbados' and then essentially disappeared. Never ever released the book with the promised 'explosive' story either.
- R564 I don't doubt it.
Not just fraus, dear. The amount of idiotic men who don't believe their idols could be closeted is astounding. Remember these fantasy images of celebrities are not just for the benefit of keeping women entranced. For the wheels of the entertainment to keep on turning, civilian males NEED to believe every attractive starlet is straight and every male idol of theirs is straight. SIMPLE.
- R572 you're bisexual since you're sexually attracted to women.
If you were heterosexual/straight you would not be fantasizing about having sex with women or have had sex with women once or even a few times like you wrote about.
- R583 is bang on the money also. Hollywood certainly needs straight mens bums on seats as much as it needs tweeners and fraus living in the land of self-delusion and fantasy heroes/lovers.
It's just less acknowledged.
I just love how straight men can fill up forums fighting how some well-known (to those in the know) closet case is straighter than straight, using all the poorly-constructed arguments based on what they are shown by the mass media.
To be fair, the daily advertising assault is now so intense it's no wonder many people truly believe these stars are rescuing damsels in distress at every turn, even in real life.
- Isn't Diana Jenkins the one pimping out Hayden Panettiere?
- My sister in-law was a part of Sarah Palin's team for years. Needless to say I don't agree with my brother or his wife on politics. Sexually they aren't as uptight as you may think; she's bi, he dabbled. They used to joke that "if only the public knew" Sarah Palin wasn't the monogamous conservative wife the press advertizes her as. They usually were tight lipped about what this meant but they did let slip that her staff was littered with bi-sexual women and that Sarah "liked kissing girls". The SIL also would occasionally talk about how "pretty" Palin was and how nice her "big butt" looked with the right skirt. When they were having marriage problems I suspected that my in-law had been one of the bitch's conquests. Supposedly Palin was being blackmailed by an ex-gay lover over trips her and her hubby took with another couple; Todd and the husband would go hunting while the two wives would stay in the cabin and do blow with some lesbian antics. Many people on her team found out because she needed to figure out how to put this fire out before it became too big or leaked to the public. My sister in-law liked to talk Palin up as a responsible politician because she didn't sleep with other men, as if the affairs with women didn't mean anything.
That's what you discover with conservatives though. They think gay sex doesn't count and that gay people are either mentally ill or don't exist. This seems to be how Palin and her circle justify their policies versus their sex lives.
- I can actually understand gay republicans. They have other priorities when it comes time to vote and there are republicans that are for gay rights. I'm not going to judge someone by how he/she votes. What I can't understand are the closeted gay republicans that do everything in their power to make sure that gay people are second rate citizens. And I especially can't understand the closeted gay republicans that run for office. Aren't they scared that something will leak? How do they justify voting against gay rights while having same sex affairs?
- R588, I don't buy it, and I have never heard from various people she has affairs, bisexual, and she isn't monogamous, please! this thread is suppose to be the truth not, if you hate someone's guts then make up BS thread. This thread was getting good until you ruined it with your personal made up gripes.
However, you could be a dyke who has wishful thinking.
- [quote]the hotel rumors are that she fucked Alex Kingston so hard with a strap-on that the other guests were disturbed by AK's orgasmic screams and/or that the staff walked in on Kingston face down on the bed and Gillian naked but for an open robe and said strappy, ready to take Alex to heaven
Um, that's fucking hot.
- R591 I've heard that before it sounds like total bullshit. Why? Because GA and AK would have found a far more discreet place to conduct their business. BTW it's possible that they did fool around but the story is too much. It's like something from Penthouse Forum!
- Here's a real shocker:
I should have taken the load in Lucifer Rising II. I'd have nailed it as a gahy Satan.
Ray Gordon, Anger's Former Personal Assistant (for one day)
- R588 = straight guy who thinks girl-on-girl is hot
- I Wished I lived in a famous place to say I've seen celebrities go at it.
- Yes Gillian Anderson would never do anything indiscreet, R590.
She'd never, for instance, yell at guy on an intercontinental flight because she was drunk off her ass. Or get kicked off another flight for abusing airline employees and other passengers. She'd never, ever get caught making out with another woman at a Trevor event. And there's no way she'd go to an LA movie theater and get spotted making out with Megan Mullally. Or show up at an Oscar party with her ass showing, dancing and groping fellow closet case Helen Hunt on the dance floor.
Oh. Sorry. I was thinking of one of the mythic "discreet" celebs. Not Gillian Anderson. Who did all those things listed. And probably a hell of a lot more, including that Kingston incident. Maybe you should become a fangirl of a celeb that your delicate sensibilities can take.
- Ha! Thank you, R594. Great gossip.
- R594 Now who did Gillian get caught fucking in flagrante delicto? Except for that so-called story with Kingston? Nobody. You gave me some crumbs how about giving me a loaf of bread next time! Touche'
Fangurl? HAHAHA! I'm a gay man honey and I've heard BS stories come out of Hollywood before. I knew a gossip columnist at one time and I've heard tons of stories(both true and untrue). The GA/AK incidents smell like a steaming pile of horseshit.Oh I mentioned that it is possible that they fooled around.Gillian has fooled around with a small army of men and women BUT the veracity of those Kingston stories are quite suspect.
- Very true R581 I have told hetero male friends about how some of their favorite actors are NOT hetero like Vin Diesel, Russell Crowe, Will Smith, and Hugh Jackman and they don't believe it.
- Someone make a new thread and post a link please
- R592. Agreed R588 deffo delusional straight dude or queen with bizarre hard on for Palin.
- Every thread that mentions Anderson has a PR troll show up to tell us all that the specific spilled goss is all "bull". Like clockwork we get another cleaner @ r590/r596. Probably a fat frau who has an unhealthy obsession with this has-been. If not, likely on payroll for Hollwyood cleaners...as if Anderson really has a big enough career anymore that anyone cares if she's gay. Irony.
- Lauren Hutton's longtime girlfriend was Patricia Field.
- Boring! I'm well aware that there would be some closeted actors. However, I'm now onto the third threadlist, with around 600 replies each, and maybe a 10th were of actual accounts of "celebrities you know to be gay/bi from trustworthy sources or firsthand knowledge".
I find it funny that there is always a lot of talk (often misogynistic)on dl about silly 'fraus' and how the industry is, in reality, dominated by a major conspiracy theory, involving most actors being gay and most (I'm presuming really sexually frustrated) partners, of said actors, acting as their 'beards'.
However, when asked, flat out, for proof, very little was forthcoming, merely unsubstanciated gossip. Hold on, isn't that what 'fraus' do, post unsubstanciated gossip about actors?
- We need a Part 4.