will have a song that includes Macklemore and Ryan or Psy. Betcha'
I know she won't, but she really has got to get back with her old partner Patrick Leonard and see what they can do in the music scene now. He really brought out the best in her. But she's so superficial now that she's thinking only "youth-youth-youth". It would be cool if she had one more iconic song left in her, but I don't think she has. She probably has one more successful tour left in her, though.
I think she might go with more Joe Henry collaborations after the disaster that was MDNA.
She's probably got her eye on some more cool and trendy like Claire Boucher.
Nicki Minaj will be on it.
Leonard and Henry worked so well for her because they're musicians first and producers second. Most of her other collaborators are DJs or the kind of producers who cut and paste everything in in the studio.
I can't believe r1 responded in such a reasonable fashion. I hope the Madge loons grant him a fairly painless demise.
I believe for her next album, Madonna will be re-recording some of her older stuff such as her 1920s wax cylinders.
She could do an album of pop standards, like Rod Stewart did.
Oh, yes, if anyone could breathe heart and soul into standards, it's the Ice Queen.
I could see her collaborating with Goyte.
At this point she'd probably collaborate with Goatse if she thought it would sell one more disc.
She should do what she did with Ray of Light: Write the songs BEFORE she goes into the studio to record and produce.
Maybe an album full of some of the standards that were popular during her girlhood, i.e., the 1890s.
WHAT new album? Didn't I just DO an album? Christ, what's the point of doing another album when you bitches are just going to go apeshit for "Holiday" at the end of every concert?
I think she needs to take a long break before she records again because people are getting tired of her and her antics. And when she comes back, she needs to come back acting her age. Try doing an adult contemporary album.
[quote]I could see her collaborating with Goyte.
I loved their big hit, "Somebody That I Jews To Know."
I can see her doing a track with some minor boy band like "the Wanted" and shoot a video where they are all just hungry for her cooze.
Two words: Vegas.
[quote]I think she needs to take a long break before she records again ...
A long break is not a good idea for someone her
She made a 4-year break between her last 2 albums,does she really need another one?
"Madge Gets Dotty: The Dorothy Fields Songbook!"
She should def let Joe Henry produce the next record. He could really revitalize her run out run of the mill sound.
The basic rule of thumb for Madonna's records is that she always is at least three years behind the curve, so expect her to be collaborating with Pitbull and Chris Brown.
I hear this Katey Perry gal is really happening!
[quote]She should def let Joe Henry produce the next record.
Please! Joe Henry sucked.
She needs to BEG Stephen Bray and Patrick Leonard to work with her again, but she fell out with them (like she does everyone) and she has too much pride to make amends. They gave her the most memorable songs of her career.
Anybody else think the addition of a rap interlude is tired and ovah? If I can understand what they're grunting at all, it's the usual dumb/aggressive/sexual posturing they've been doing since the '80's. I'm not impressed. I don't think, "Wow, she's really hip and now to invite a guest rapper!". I just sit there and wait for it to be over.
R25 I agree. The guest rapper shit is dated.
She should collaborate with Boards of Canada. That would be amazing.
She needs someone who will be able to properly showcase her talent and her voice.
And ballads! Bray and Leonard were able to get some truly heartbreaking performances out of her. There hasn't been a great Madonna ballad in ages.
If there is any hope for the future of mankind, Madonna will not have another album.
R16 Nailed it
I heard that Madonna got really angry when Lourdes told her that her next album should include songs by Richard Clayderman.
Her daughter is smarter than we give her credit for.
i hope it comes with a free sample pack of Metamucil.....
Madonna covers Joni Mitchell. An entire album.
Imagine what she could do with "Don Juan's reckless Daughter" as a dance song.
And the cover would be a recreation of Mitchell's cover to "Clouds."
Joni hates her
The next Madonna album....
...is one no one is fucking looking for.
what a bunch of tired queens.
Yes, MDNA was a "disaster" (snicker) after it garnered her THREE Billboard awards (given out for sales, digital sales, radio play, club play).
Oh, and MDNA was in the top 10 for best selling albums last year (world-wide). Top 10.
Get a life losers.
It's all about the tours for her now. That's where her focus and creativity is directed. It's also where the money is.
It was commercially successful yeah, r36, but it wasn't very good. Lots of things are commercially successful, but creatively and artistically suck.
The next Madonna album will be a pure piece of shit.
So what else is new?
She should do a complete 360 and do something that isn't trendy or current at all.
She's missing her audience (white, Boomer and/or gay) by trying to be "edgy" and rope-in the kiddies. She needs to build off what she's done successfully before, and it should be something fraus can bop to while picking the kids up at soccer. All that vocorder/computer shit is sterile, could be anybody.
This is what she should be doing. Maybe I'd buy an album for the first time in a decade and a half.
Yes r41, that song was a pleasant surprise to us who felt she didn't have a song like that left in her. She went all wrong when she started idolizing Britney and JT.
[quote]I think she might go with more Joe Henry collaborations after the disaster that was MDNA.
Joe Henry worked on "MDNA". Can't stand him. She only worked with him to do her sister a favor.
She needs Patrick Leonard for writing. He can't produce.
Here's the thing: William Orbit produced the most critically acclaimed album of her career, and then she re-teamed with him on her last album and it was a dud. Lightning doesn't always strike twice.
Madonna only does albums now to promote her tour, which is what a Live Nation exec leaked to the NY Post.
William Orbit went apeshit on her, saying that she never came into the studio, she had everyone doing the work for her, and that's why "MDNA" flopped. It was pretty well-known from the start that her album was being written and produced without her while she went and promoted that god-awful "W.E.".
Madonna doesn't care about albums. There's no money in them for her, which is also the reason she makes cheap music videos.
She's all about opening gyms, doing perfume, and a million other embarrassing things.
[quote]Yes, MDNA was a "disaster" (snicker) after it garnered her THREE Billboard awards (given out for sales, digital sales, radio play, club play).
Doesn't work that way, hon. Live Nation also payed for her crappy first single to be played. They also gave the album away with tickets, and perfume sales. She cheated.
[quote]Oh, and MDNA was in the top 10 for best selling albums last year (world-wide). Top 10.
Look at the sales for the rest of the albums that year, doll face. She also had the largest % sales drop in Sound Scan history.
"MDNA" is the lowest-selling album of her entire career.
[quote]She made a 4-year break between her last 2 albums,does she really need another one?
According to her Live Nation contract, yes.
She had one last shot to reassert herself in the mainstream and she blew it with MDNA. The teens and twenty-somethings who drive the pop music industry aren't interested in listening to a woman old enough to be their mother or grandmother sing generic technopop songs about being a different kind of "girl," let alone seeing her gyrate in fishnets and flash her tits on stage. She's desperately needed to give up the sex goddess shtick for the past decade but her immense vanity prevents her from evolving beyond the nymphette image she still tries so hard to project, and which gets more and more ridiculous with each passing year. Her career has become an exercise in cognitive dissonance.
No doubt she'll continue to have lucrative tours but at this point her only true appeal is as a nostalgia act. It's just not cool to be into Madonna anymore.
Funny R41 she's seems to be doing pretty good without you buying any of her music for a decade and a half
The music she recorded when she was younger has a more mature adult sound than the music she records today. Crazy For You sounds like it was recorded by a woman in her 40's for a dentist office. Tracks on MDNA, on the other hand, sound like she's trying to sound like she's in her 20s. Very odd. At least Stevie Nicks is recording contemplative, mellow, age-appropriate music now and not trying to be something she wouldn't be believable at even two decades prior.
Her rejected material is much better than most of what made it onto her albums. Across the Sky and Animal are just a few examples. So not only does she not care about her music anymore, but she doesn't even recognize some hit songs after she's recorded them.
And that is why her career is over.
[quote]And that is why her career is over.
I'm not someone that hates Madonna. I'm not a fan of hers either. But that statement is sort of ridiculous. Her career is hardly over as she's still raking in a shit load of money. Is her music good or relevant, debatable, but that's a whole other issue.
Unfortunately, my guess is that even five or ten years from now, we'll still be saying, "and THIS is why her career is over."
R50 Her touring career may still be doing well (a la Rolling Stones, Bruce Springsteen, etc), but like those bands, nobody cares about the music they release now. Her career in terms of new music is definitely over. She hasn't had a #1 in 13 years and her last album was the worst selling album of her whole career.
I agree with r1. She should take some time and write with Patrick Leonard and maybe Steve Bray and Shep Pettibone and once the songs are written and recorded, then hand them off to Guetta, Orbit, Timbaland, Pharrel or even Max Martin to remix the songs with whatever the hot sound is. They'd be smashes because the songs would be solid.
Madonna's career lasted from 1984-1992. This year is the 21st anniversary of her career coming to an end. The media still treats her like it's the 1980's instead of 2013.
Wasn't Ray of Light post 1992?
Ray of Light was 1998 and Music was in 2002. But people who hate her wont give her credit for those and say her career "ended" a decade prior.
I think we need to define what makes a "career" end, because in most scenarios, your career ends when you no longer generate money. That hasn't happened for her yet.
And no, I'm not a huge fan of hers.
I'm still scratching my head over Give Me All Your Love. Who in their right mind thought that should have been the lead single? It should have been Turn up the Radio.
"Golden Oldies from a Golden Oldie: Madonna, Yesterday's Superstar, Sings the Standards You Remember from Your Chldhood"
It should be said...Turn Up The Radio is a really shitty song too.
Joe Henry is one of most acclaimed producers and artists in America, the list of artists his produced are stellar; Billy Bragg, Bonnie Raitt, Meshell Ndegeocello, Loudon Wainwright III, Kristin Hersh, Aimee Mann, Bettye LaVette, Solomon Burke. And his own records are just amazing.
R55, don't forget about Hung Up
Madonna is already recording her next album. It's a collaboration with Metallica and Lou Reed. It is tentatively titled, "Ma-Lulu". It is scheduled for release on the 12th of Never.
George Michael, Falling from Car
I don't think she needs to do Joe Henry a favor. She basically jacked his song Stop and turned it into Don't Tell Me.
What bothers me about MDNA is that is such a shitty album. I had to skip a couple songs, they were just so repetitious and unlistenable.
She really does have unreleased stuff that is better, and she has produced enough good songs and worked with talented producers and songwriters to know better.
She must have a deal with LA Fitness because they played songs from MDNA as if they were big hits.
That Girl Gone Wild song is just wrong, and I had to decide whether or not to run for it and sidestep the aural torture. But mostly, I stuck it out knowing that another horrific, never-should-have-been-made song was burning itself into my psyche.
I love for
Gone wild, I really do. Probably her best song since bedtime story.
The only good song from FlopDNA was "Gang Bang". She should have released that as a single instead of the cheesy, shitty ass singles she released. "Gang Bang" was a great dark track about wanting to get revenge on an ex who's fucked you over and it actually had a story. That "Give Me All Your Lovin'" was the biggest pile of shit I've ever heard, and I have no idea why that was a single. Same goes for "Girl Gone Nowhere" and "Turn Off the Radio".
She needs to go in a more adult contemporary direction next time a la "Bedtime Stories" or "Like a Prayer".