Anti-gay French historian shoots himself at the altar of Notre Dame to protest gay marriage
Dominique Venner, a notable far-right French historian, shot himself in the head at the altar of the Notre Dame cathedral today, killing himself in front of a crowd of tourists to protest gay marriage, which was legalized in France last weekend.
The 78-year-old Venner, a prolific essayist for much of his life, was also a strict Catholic who frequently inveighed against gays and Islamists, who he believed were coming to wipe out French culture. In a blog post dated today—translated with the help of senilezombiegrouchomarx—Venner argued that more drastic measures were necessary to combat same-sex marriage since peaceful protests didn't work.
"It certainly will require new, spectacular and symbolic gesture to shake the sleepiness, shaking anesthetized consciousness and awaken the memory of our origins," he wrote. "We are entering a time when words must be authenticated by acts."
Witnesses say Venner entered the cathedral and placed a sealed envelope on the altar before shooting himself through the mouth with a handgun. His final blog post can be read in its entirety below:
"The protestors on the 26th of May will have reason to vent their impatience and anger. An odious law, once passed, can always be repealed.
I have just finished listening to an Algerian blogger: “In any case”, he said, “in fifteen years Islamists will be in power and will strike down the law”. Not to satisfy us, lest we doubt, but because it is against Sharia.
It is the single common point, albeit superficial, between the European culture (which respects women) and Islam (which does not). The preemptive statement by this Algerian blogger sends chills down the spine. The consequences of such a development would be as great and catastrophic as those of the Taubira Law.
We must recognize the real possibility of France falling under Islamic rule. Over the past 40 years, politicians and successive governments from all parties (excepting the Front Nationale), as well as big business and the Church, have actively worked towards, and accelerated, Afro-Maghreb immigration by all means.
For a long time, great writers have sounded the alarm, starting with Jean Raspail in his prophetic Camp of Saints (Robert Laffont). The new edition has set printing records.
The protestors on the 26th of May cannot ignore this reality. Their fight cannot confine itself to the issue of gay marriage. The “Great Replacement” of the French and European populations, decried by writer Renaud Camus, is a peril just as significant for the future.
Organizing peaceful demonstrations will not suffice to stem the tide. We must first, as Renan would say, engineer a veritable “intellectual and moral” reform movement. Such a movement must allow us first to re-appropriate out forgotten French and European identity. The need for such a movement is still not widely acknowledged.
New actions, both spectacular and symbolic, are needed to shake us from our sleep-like stupor and reawaken our sense of tradition. We are entering into a time when talk must be supported by actions.
We must also remember what Heidegger formulated brilliantly in Being and Time: that the essence of man is not to be found in some “other world”, but in his very existence. It is here and now, in these last moments, that our destiny in is play. These final moments are as important as the rest of one’s life. That is why one must uphold their ideals to the very last second. Only in deciding for one’s self and seizing destiny can one vanquish nothingness. There is no way to escape this fact. In this life, we have two options: to uphold our ideals or to be nothing."
If you're 78 just wait the 6 months to a year to die naturally from a painful stroke like everyone else.
[quote]The 78-year-old Venner, a prolific essayist for much of his life, was also a strict Catholic
And yet by doing this he desecrated a cathedral and committed the moral sin of suicide.
Guess who's not going to heaven?
His last statement:
Quelle une regine!
If only more homophobes would follow his excellent example
What R7 said.
Also, if his God is right, Venner went straight to hell.
Au revoir trashy!
Somebody has to clean up that mess, you know. Brain matter doesn't clean itself.
Can we get James Dobson to do this too?
The most frustrating thing about radical right wingers who are also Islamophobes: they can't seem to process that they're just advocating another kind of Sharia.
[quote] Can we get James Dobson to do this too?
I'd rather see Bryan Fischer do it first.
Oh, that's sad!
He was undoubtedly convinced early in life that denying his true desires, and seeking a life of self-denial and penance was the right thing to do. Then, when he was an old man, he not only saw people happily doing everything he'd ever denied himself, but being accepted for it! He must have realized he'd wasted his life.
Now he's gone to call his God to account.
Yeah that will show them! What a screwed up asshole! He has accomplished what exactly and since Islams are also homophobes I am confused about his actual intent. Whatever.
My back-up plan was to dress in my most eleaborate silk kimono, draw a warm bath with candles, and overdose on Nyquil to Delibes' "Lakme".
La Reine Dramatique
One idiot less.
65 million more of these and the country might actually be enjoyable to visit.
Hopefully this starts a trend.
Probably upset the Jake Genesis retired from porn.
He's just the same as a suicide bomber, thinking his own dramatic death would inspire a revolution on 26 May, when another homophobe march is set to take place. He bizarrely links the "fight" against gay marriage with a new movement to combat Muslim efforts to impose Sharia law in Europe, as though gay marriage and Muslim fundamentalists are allies! Gay marriage is anathema to sharia! These people are fucking mad!
I really hope that scum Frigide Barjot feels shitty about this and starts to realise what a bunch of dangerous lunatics she's unleashed.
Head Like A Hole
And on your gauche, you see the beautiful stained glass windows and on your droit, you see the spot where an asshole desecrated our most famous Cathedral. Tips are gratefully appreciated. Vous vous amusez.
A Parisian tour guide outside having a gauloise.
With six you get crepe suzette.
"a notable far-right French historian,"
His insanity is now duly noted.
What R3 said. He could not possibly have been a "strict Catholic" if he committed suicide. Suicide is a huge sin and the idea that you'll suffer in the hereafter for committing the sin of suicide is drilled into the head of everyone raised a Catholic.
Of all the countries that have passed gay marriage, the French have put up the most resistance. And his point about islamists repealing it is weird because the muslims have hardly featured in this debate.
Homphobia in France:
Turns out he was gay and couldn't get anyone to marry him.
I hope I don't read one word about this being any kind of tragedy. You are the first person in my entire life that I am GLAD is fucking dead, you utter moron.
A right wing spokesnut opposed to gay marriage got in such a tizzy over France's new law, he killed himself. Just beforehand, he had fulminated with outrage, claiming being gay is a “Mortal Sin.” According to a lesbian (now there's an unnecessary adjective!) nun I knew, so is committing suicide, which is notoriously mortal.
And I don't know how contemporary Catholics score such things, but I bet you get extra damnation credits if you desecrate one one Christendom’s most prized cathedrals when you do it.
But what a refreshing novelty for an unbalanced person to only hurt himself!
If he was so religious, I hope he knew that by the tenets of his religion, he can't get into Heaven - Limbo is as far as he can make it.
Or was that an "Oh shit, I KNEW there was something I forgot!" moment for him?
ONE LESS CUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
why did this have 44 replies 10 minutes ago and now it only has 42?
How do you solve a problem like Dominique?
Couldn't he have waited until Bastille Day?
Just another example proving right wings and extreme homophobes being nuts.
Je m'en fou.
I just don't understand why more people like him don't opt for self-immolation.
Any moron can shoot himself in the head.
Setting yourself ablaze in a public forum, preferably where young people can capture video on their phones - now that's what you do to bring attention to your cause.
Poor fellow. An analog player in a digital world.
A shot to the head in a dark space - that's not going viral.
Running around in flames? Well, that shit's gonna hit tens of millions of views on YouTube in a matter of weeks.
He had no "faith" or he wouldn't have done it.
Religious people are all liars. Right to the end.
[quote]He had no "faith" or he wouldn't have done it.
Actually, I'm surprised more religious people don't jump off of cliffs or dive into a tank of sharks. If you live, it's a miracle and everyone is converted to a believer, with you as the hero. If you die, you go straight to heaven.
Not so R50. Suicide is considered a grave sin in Roman Catholicism.
Well he didn't 'uphold his ideals', did he? He chose religiose melodrama.
If he was dying anyway, he might have served his 'cause' by 'campaigning' till the end. But no, the crank saw his futility and histrionically left the game.
Epitaph: Worst Loser Ever.
ALL RIGHT EVERYONE!! WE GOT IT!! SUICIDE IS A MORTAL SIN!!! Does anyone read any posts at all?
Men are SUCH drama queens.
"Venner explored the reasons for the failure of the April 1961 coup and the divide that existed between "nationals" and the "nationalists"
So, pot smoker?
I think he did it for a joke. He had to know that it would be shocking today, hilarious tomorrow.
Bien fait, monsieur! Bien fait!
So thousands of children molested by the church does not bother him?
Je m'en fous = I don't give a fuck
Je m'en branle = I don't give
a goddamn fuck. (Lit. "I'm jacking off over it.")
There's also je m'en bats les couilles, for DL purists
So apparently he was strongly influenced by Mishima,Gay Japanese writer who killed himself dramatically in a failed right wing coup.
At least the guy wa clear about his motives.
How sad. Sad as in the 'loser' sense, not the pathos one.
R62 But wasn't Mishima gay and quite openly so?
Indeed he was, R64.
A sort of SS/SA gay I imagine, lots of leather and submission and whatnot
Read Confessions of a Mask if you're interested, that'll give you an idea
Pretension has always been the hallmark of French intellectuals, not logic. All this fool did was prove that he's a fucking loon.
R66 That's why most French movies annoy the fuck out of me. All pretentious pseudo-intellectual babble and no actual substance. British, German, Spanish, Asian, South American or US cinema is so much better.
One less vote for the droit.
Obvious fake. When have pro-Obama posts outnumbered anti-Obama posts. Oh that's right, maybe one week before the election, and that's all.
When has DL ever ganged up on anti-poor posters en masse. Totally fake.
[quote]Not so [R50]. Suicide is considered a grave sin in Roman Catholicism.
But it wouldn't be suicide if you really believed you were under god's protection, which is what Christians allegedly believe (obviously no one really does).
God is all-powerful. Therefore you can swim in a tank of hungry sharks. fully confident that If god wants you to live you will live, if he wants you to die, you'll go immediately to heaven. It's god's decision and you're supposed to trust in him.
No loss to the gene pool.
It's like how that Norway shooter, Breivik ACTUALLY thought that killing all of those people would spark off some kind of revolution for his right wing stuff.
This won't do shit either.
R73 At least this one had the decency to kill himself.
A French drama queen! How rare!
I live here and I haven't seen any news of this.
R74, too true. It's not in the same league by far. Still batshit crazy though.
He was 78 though. Maybe just thought he wanted to go out anyway.
Oh sorry it was yesterday.
I was in Bastille last night anyway, much better way to spend my time
r28 made me laugh. Merci, mon petit chou.
One of the miltant FEMEN ladies wrote "May facism rest in hell" on her chest the next day in Notre-Dame
I love that cathedral. Religion is responsible for some of the most beautiful art and architecture in history. From the Sistine Chapel to Bach, the world is richer for it, but we could do without the hate.
France is the least tolerant country in western Europe towards homosexuality, according to survey.
There is going to be a (supposedly) huge anti-marriage manifestation on Sunday for Mothers Day. Frigid Barjot says they won't back down even though the law has been passed.
This is the weirdest suicide to happen in Notre Dame since Quasimodo jumped off the bell tower.
La Belle Otero
The mayor of Montpellier cemented her place in history when she married the first gay couple in France on May 29. But now Helene Mandroux is making headlines for a different reason: The French mayor has received countless threats, including one with feces, over her part in the marriage.
According to Montpellier daily newspaper Midi Libre, since performing the wedding, Mandroux has received many letters that contain insults and threats expressing opposition to gay marriage in France. One of the packages mailed to the French official also contained feces, municipal officers discovered.
Passage of the landmark law has spurred intense protests in the country. Prior to the legislation's approval by the National Assembly, France saw a marked rise in violent attacks on gay couples. Legislators who voiced their support for gay marriage were also threatened.
In one of the more alarming incidents, Claude Bartolone, the head of the National Assembly, received a letter containing gunpowder.
Though the mailed threats have become more commonly associated with gay marriage opposition in France, a number of French politicians have received similar packages throughout the years when they have expressed their sentiments on a controversial piece of legislation.
Despite the many threats and protests, French President Francois Hollande signed the France's "marriage for all" legislation into law on May 18; the same day, Vincent Autin and Bruno Boileau signed up to wed in Montpellier.
An 18-year-old gay rights campaigner has been left brain dead after an attack by far-right skinheads in Paris.
The Local reports Clément Méric, a student at Sciences Po in Paris, was violently attacked by a group of three skinheads, including one woman, near Saint-Lazare train station on Wednesday evening.
A vigil for Clément Méric will take place this evening.
In a statement, the democratic socialist party, Parti de Gauche, said: “The horror of fascism has just killed right in the middle of Paris.”
“Violently beaten to the ground by a group of activists from the extreme right, manifestly from the group JNR (Jeune Nationaliste Revolutionnaire), left motionless, he was declared this evening to be in a state of brain death at Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital in Paris,” the statement added.
The leader of JNR, Serge Ayoub, has denied his group’s involvement in the attack.
Marine Le Pen, leader of the far-right National Front, called the attack on the young student repulsive and detestable but said groups such as the JNR had no ties with her party.
When asked by RTL radio why one of the attackers was seen wearing a top with her party’s logo, she reacted angrily.
“Making this kind of association is scandalous, I’d like to know very much who this witness is,” Le Pen said. “You have no proof at all.”
It is the latest violent homophobic attack to have taken place in France in recent months.
Anti-gay crime has soared with the arrival of equal marriage in the country.
In April, Raphaël Leclerc, a gay cabaret dancer was beaten unconscious in Nice, and Wilfred de Bruijn, a gay librarian, was attacked in Paris.
In the same month four people were detained on suspicion of carrying out an attack at a gay bar in Lille.
President Francois Hollande called for the violence to stop in April.
It was not an anti gay attack, he was not gay, don't make this an homophobic event, it was a repulsive fight turned bad between a bunch of extreme rights fuckwits and a group of extreme left youngsters who were singled out and attacked.
It's a start!
He was pro gay, I know people, who knew him and they are all gay.