They could seriously fuck up a one car funeral.
I am generally pro-worker, pro-public workers and pro-union, and I know budgets are cut at USPS as they are elsewhere, but if there was ever something that needed to be privatized, the Postal Service was it.
The people who run my post office in NYC are pretty efficient if not delightfully friendly. My mail is reliable and sending a letter is not too expensive. I think we will miss the post office if we get rid of it.
Not true. I have noticed a recent trend with Amazon dot com vendors. They give a ridiculous two or three week window for delivery and claim they shipped it when it is obvious from the fact that it doesn't take two weeks to ship anything by any means in the US, apparently in order to get Amazon to pay them before they have actually fulfilled the order.
I think the USPS has gotten much better since I was young. I never have any problem with them now.
WTF is the point of their tracking? It SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKS!
[quote] if there was ever something that needed to be privatized, the Postal Service was it.
"Private" companies will not deliver to all of the places that the US PS delivers, especially the remote, rural areas.
I've said it before, I'll say it again. The USPS excells in my neighborhood, they knock, they know who to contact when not in, and next day has been just that. The postal carriers are nice and all know me. UPS sucks donkey dicks and literally laugh when they've fucked up a delivery.
Are you kidding? FedEx is the only delivery place I've had major problems with.
There's no uniform answer. Like airlines, it's all going to be experience specific. So, the USPS, Fed Ex, UPS will be fantastic for some, horrible for others, and meh for others.
I know people get tired of New Yorkers complaining and making it all about them, but I think we have one of the worst post office brances in the U.S. here in my nabe in Brooklyn. I happened to be looking out a window one day when I saw a fat assed U.S.P.S. worker get out of his truck, walk up the stairs to my front door, no package in hand, and leave with what looked like my home delivered Daily News. He never rang my bell or knocked on the door. When I went down to see if a package had been left and to retrieve my newspaper, I found a delivery notice stuck to the door that said "sorry we missed you", and NO newspaper. Now they are going to route Brooklyn mail to a Manhattan sorting facility and then take it back to Brooklyn for distribution. Locally mailed letters and bills will take five to six days to be delivered instead of two. It's like they want people to use it less and less.
R2, it is Amazon itself that mandates that extremely large window of time. Amazon Marketplace sellers have absolutely nothing to do with it.
The CEO of UPS was on NPR about a year ago. He stated that USPS is contracted to UPS to deliver packages where UPS doesn't go and if USPS is allowed to go out of biz, UPS and FedEx rates will have to skyrocket in order to serve everyone.
So all of you privitization fuck nuts like OP are wrong again.
R8 I hate FedEx. They were supposed to deliver something on April 9, a Tuesday. But the item got here sooner, and they sent me an e-mail telling me that though the item was packed on a truck the day before, April 8, they were just letting it sit there on the truck for an entire day before they delivered it, because April 9 was the official delivery day.
I don't give a shit if it's not delivered until its official delivery date, but spare me the "nyah nyah nyah nyah nyah" e-mail. Fucktards.
Republicans suck "dirty, stanky ass."
Maybe if the post office didn't have to fund retirements for people who aren't even born yet,, they could concentrate on delivering the mail instead. But no. The Pubbies in what passes for our congress just can't stand to see good union jobs and steady, reliable service provided at economical rates to everyone.
Postal delivery used to only be to the town post office, not to your home.
Newspapers would print a list of letters received and you'd have to go into town to get them.
Maybe we should go back to that in some places.
12 years of internet sales and shipping, the USPS never lost a single package, not a single one nor have they ever lost a letter that I am certain of. Yes, there were a few glitches, a delay or two, but nothing short of amazing service.
The OP is pathetic
I'm the OP and have always voted for Democrats.
But it's May and the Post Office has lost at least six packages and/or letters since March.
Their delivery people can't read. And let's not even talk about the post office workers, where it seems to be a prerequisite that you be slow, morbidly obese and surly to customers.
Maybe it's better in some areas, but overall, it sucks.
And most Amazon packages are delivered now where UPS or FedEx hand off to USPS. Hint: it's not FedEx or UPS that loses the package. It never makes it anywhere else after handoff.
I guess it all depends on the area. My mom has great service, yet I have the surliest of mailmen who puts my neighbors' mail with mine or vice versa. I've held off complaining about him (except for here) because I really don't want to get anyone in that much trouble, but sometimes I am tempted.
However, FedEx is a total horror. Fuck them in their stinky ass.
[quote]I'm the OP and have always voted for Democrats.
Of course you have, dear.
UK Royal Mail will be privatized next year and many EU and Asian postal services have been privatized too
[quote] UK Royal Mail will be privatized next year and many EU and Asian postal services have been privatized too
I'm willing to bet that none of those places actually have a constitutionally required postal service.
Oh FUCK OP, you're in deep shit now.
DL has a traditional, aggressive sleeper cell of absolutely rabid USPS apologists who will go on for weeks flaming you and stalking you and calling you out as a freezer and a troll etc. etc. etc.
I remember posting a thread about how crap fucking TASTIC the USPS is over a year ago, after having posted a rant bitching about a group of postal delivery people back in 2007.
Both times I was shredded to bits, as have been other people here who realize what a massive sewage waste, corruption and utter incompetence the U.S. Postal Service is.
And yes, the entire system should be privatized at this point, the worthless employees (most of them union unfortunately) be canned and the organization rebuilt for service and efficiency.
FedEx is so far the worst in my book:
If you drop a FedEx home delivery box into a regular FedEx Express box, it will just rot there and never gets delivered. Because? Home delivery is done by FedEx Ground which has nothing to do with FedEx Express. They are two separate companies. Yet, they are both called FedEx and use the same logo. Go figure.
God forbid if you use the wrong airway bill, the one with the word express for ground, you are screwed and they will never notify you.
What is the point of naming a company FedEx Express? Isn't it pointless like Datalounge Lounge?
"freezer" = 'freeper' obviously
[quote] Of course you have, dear.
What part of that didn't you understand, cunt? Unless you were in the booth with me, you need to fuck right off.
I went to Wisconsin *and* Ohio last year to counter all the anti-union bullshit.
I happen to think USPS is a different matter.
Sorry, I know having complex, multifaceted opinions probably doesn't fit in with your fascist anal clenching.
"sucks dirty, stanky ass" is what passes for a "complex multifaceted opinion" these days?
OP's bad experience means the USPS must be destroyed!
I've never had a bad experience shipping my items via Postal Service. I have had things lost and broken when it was shipped via UPS. My brother deals with FedEx and he's always frustrated by their policy and delivery service.
Hey OP, I've got a better idea!
How about Congress repeal the stupid laws they put through last decade that force the USPS to fully fund pensions for 70 years?
Maybe they wouldn't suck so hard.
But if you were an informed Democrat, you'd know about the pension issue.
Fuck you, OP. My dad works for the USPS.
By the way, ever think it might be YOU who's fucking up? I've never had a package get lost or go undelivered.
I buy/sell on ebay/amazon and I always use USPS priority. Always been great, never lost anything.
[quote]Both times I was shredded to bits
There was a good reason for that. You had no data to back up your idiotic point of view and you couldn't tell the difference between anecdote and data. And based on this post, it looks like you still don't know the difference.
[quote]as have been other people here who realize what a massive sewage waste, corruption and utter incompetence the U.S. Postal Service is.
Sadly for you, then, that you have no data with which to back up that idiotic opinion.
[quote]And yes, the entire system should be privatized at this point
Why? So that it can cost more and deliver less? Yeah, that'll work.
[quote]and the organization rebuilt for service and efficiency.
You really don't know much about the private sector, do you?
I was making a cake that called for a dozen eggs. I didn't want to break them myself so I put them in a package marked "fragile" and brought it down to the post office and they did it for me.
OP, if you think it would get better if it was privatized, you are an idiot.
Imagine someone like Donald Trump, blowhard, in charge. He'd make sure he got his mail. He'd make sure that Georgie Porgie and Mittens got their mail. Other than that, he wouldn't give a fuck.
Maybe b/c I stay in Parkchester in the Bronx and it's like it's own little town, but my USPS, FEDEX and UPS service is excellent.
I agree with R36. I get excellent service from all three delivery services, with USPS slightly better than the others. I often get next day delivery of even non-commercial mail, and the friendly people at my small neighborhood post office go out of their way for customers.
I wonder if the difference is poor management in other cities. We had major problems with USPS several years ago, which involved some criminal activity on the part of postal workers that was ignored because of nepotism. At that time, a number of high-ranking officials were either removed or their responsibilities were changed, and our service improved immediately.
wow! r23 was right there is one crazed loon here who's come unhinged over OP's criticism of something almost everyone in the U.S. complains about.
The USPS really does suck. Not all of them of course, but all of these comments from people proclaiming "I've NEVER had any problem at my post office and they're just so friendly" is making my troll-dar go off the charts.
Bullshit. The USPS is horrible. That isn't the OP's fault of anyone else's except the USPS's and maybe the government for allowing it to get so bad.
R30's dad is a fucking loser who likely take three hour coffee breaks and then bitches about how long his work day is.
R23, your hyperbole that makes my eyes hurt aside, the problem is that you are demanding a massive systemwide change for a problem that is likely to be local.
If your post office or your letter carrier is not performing, go to their superiors. Start a campaign and don't let up until you get results.
Try to remember that this is a big country, and not all post offices or carriers are the same. Just because your local post office has problems and your service is bad, that doesn't mean everyone else has the same problems.
I ship thousands of packages each year with USPS. They're FANTASTIC. The best deal going. If you don't think so, you're obviously doing something wrong.
Have to agree that the USPS is, overall, horrible and in need of a massive house cleaning. Not all of them obviously, but the majority: from the executive management down to the eye-rolling hippo at the counter at any given post office.
R41, clearing her cache and logging post after post after tiresome post about how "FANTASTIC" the USPS people are isn't going to convince anyone of anything, other than the fact R41 is a troll and likely has posted over 15 times in this one thread.
Isn't that right, R41?
R10, where do you live in Brooklyn? Our local PO station is Times Plaza (Atlantic and 4th) and it sucks. However, our mailman is wonderful. I never have to worry about signing for packages because he signs for me. He's just a friendly, pleasant guy who's good at his job. When he's on vacation, though, everything goes to hell.
That was my first post on this thread, but okay? Whatever makes you feel good.
I do lots of eBay selling. I use mostly Priority Mail shipping. Hundreds of packages sent. Very fast, good price, never a problem.
The kill the USPS thing is one of the Koch Brothers' evil pet projects. Let's quit capitulating to the psychotic ids of the unhinged billionaire 'bros.
I said in my post at r19 that FedEx is a horror, and I guess they wanted to prove me right yet again. I just checked the tracking number for a pair of pants I ordered; they were supposed to arrive today and the updated tracking says they've been sitting in a facility five whole miles from my house FOR TWO DAYS. So it takes them three days to go five miles? Fuck you FedEx, I want my pants.
Privatizing wont work because their goal is not to serve the public, its to make a profit. Not all locations are profitable to deliver to. And not all packages are big enough to justify the price.
A private company is going to look at their bottom line and cut out remote places just based on say the cost of gas.
They also wont deliver a letter to anywhere in the US for 46 cents. Try like 2 dollars maybe. So it will cost you a lot more.
Oh, and the USPS is NOT funded by ANY TAX dollars. It's entirely funded by stamps.
The reason UPS or FED-EX look good is because they only take cream of the crop profit deliveries like packages. They leave the shit delivers like cheap letters to the government.
R48, FedEx certainly doesn't look good to me. I have no pants! GIVE ME MY PANTS!
FedEx is horrid. I had a packaged ship that tracking showed located in their warehouse for an entire day. I called to ask what was up. "Snow," was the reply. "No deliveries are being made today."
So I got in my car, drove down to the warehouse on bare streets, and picked up the package myself.
My experience tells me the problem with the USPS on the ground level is a terrible workforce with terrible supervision. And by terrible I mean urban stereotypes in painful action. Because of my work go to seven different city post offices, and four suburban ones. Guess where the service is tolerable. Guess where the service is intolerable.
Damn unions! Damn 'urban' minorities!!
ALL I can say is that my postal carriers are All Huge huskular bears and I Need to suck them all off and they never let me!
My biggest problem with USPS happens when a package is too big to fit in my PO BOX. My branch, which is in a major city, believes that there arent enough people with notices who are coming to pick up packages to have one employee dedicated to retrieving packages in the back. There is always ONE customer service person in the red vest, trying to help people pack their items and get packages from the back. The line for pickups ends up being outrageous.
They cant continue to have lazy ass carriers who leave a notice without knocking if they arent going to have an army of people doing pick ups at the office.
I will continue to put with this because the customer rep in my branch is a tall, super hot Latino guy with a great body. I just undress him with my eyes as I wait in line.
Just shipped a 4lb package for $5.15. THANKS USPS!
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