I watch Chelsea Lately almost every night and enjoy the snarky, sarcastic humor and most of the roundtable panel. I don't usually watch the guest interview because it's usually someone I've never heard of and don't care about. And I love that she's so gay-positive and features comedians of all genders, orientations, body sizes, etc.
But lately the show has taken a strange turn. Where once Chelsea would tear the Kardashians to shreds, she seems to have been forced to make peace with them. A few weeks ago they commandeered an entire episode of the show and they're appearing in the sketches and on After Lately.
Would Letterman or Leno allow their networks to force them to turn over their shows for an evening to someone they hate? Highly unlikely.
It also seems like the more celebrity friends Chelsea aquires the less she uses them as fodder for jokes. The Reese Witherspoon thing a few weeks ago was RIPE for a Chelsea-style takedown. But because they're friends she avoided the topic. Same with Gwyneth Paltrow. Chelsea should be all over her but instead she kisses her ass.
I'm less keen to watch the show now.
That show where the Kardashians took over was unwatchable and stomach-turning. Foul.
She's being groomed to star in a network sitcom reboot of 'My Sister Sam' with Kathy Griffin as her kid sister.
As a special gift to everyone, Robert John Bardo will meet Kathy.
[quote] It also seems like the more celebrity friends Chelsea aquires the less she uses them as fodder for jokes.
Same thing that's brought Kathy Griffin's shtick to a moldy stop.
At one point she was hesitant to make jokes about Scientology because a lot of her friends were Scienos. I mean, come ON!
Find her appeal odd. Just don't care for her.
Hers is the only late night talk show I've ever been able to stomach. But ultimately, it wasn't enough to convince me to waste any more money on cable.
Her show is on E, same network that airs the Kardashians, and makes its living by kissing celebrity ass. She has to suck up to all of them.
Personally, I find her grating.
I've never liked her. She got a job because she was blowing Ted Harbert, then the guy in charge of E!
She's kept it...well, who knows why the fuck she's kept it.
Gays love her because she IS every pinched-face, overly tanned queen who sits at the door of EVERY bar, EVERYWHERE, with two of her friends and starts a running thread of talking shit about everyone who walks by.
Might be funny for a minute but no one wants to be near that 24/7.
What R8 said. Word for word. I cannot stomach her.
My partner and I were just talking about this. We used to like her a lot more than we do now. Lately her attitude seems very bitter and nasty (moreso than ever before) and she seems very out of touch with reality. I used to like her bitchy, no bullshit attitude, but now she just seems mean and bitter. I'm over her. I do watch the show most nights because I enjoy the roundtable. Sarah Colonna, Jen Kirkman, Josh Wolf...all of her writers are talented and personable. I'd enjoy the show much more if they'd get another host!
She is often funny, sometimes hysterical, now and again repetitive, frequently crude and not infrequently tedious, yes TEDIOUS
She also doesn't seem very intelligent or knowledgeable about the world beyond her own blonde bubble. Her comedy is gossipy and sarcastic.
It's a perfect 22 minutes when I get home from work. The panel makes the show. Some of them like Loni Love and Natasha Legero are awesome. Sometimes Chelsea can seem like she's just phoning it in but she has a major support system to pad it along. She's no more annoying than Andy Cohen.
Funny as hell, but she's had to bottle her acidic side as she's gone mainstream -- which can be said for just about any comic who does the same. Watch some of Eddie Murphy's early '80s standup routines for a case in point.
Aside from that, she's a lush and not above openly fucking the president of E! to land a talk show. My kind of gal! (Btw I don't get why you bitches are all over her for refusing to talk shit about Reese & Gwynnie, aside from you hating both of them. Friends *stand up for* friends. It'd be beyond tacky if she *did* take advantage of their public embarrassments.)
[quote]It'd be beyond tacky if she *did* take advantage of their public embarrassments.
Yeah, professional integrity and doing your job are, like, SO beyond tacky.
R15, you sound like a wonderful friend: just cut 'em off at the knees when they've been arrested, never mind that they're already a national joke. Just *one* MORE at their expense is worth it, even if it ruins a friendship!
Comedy is an ugly business, R16. If you aren't prepared to take no prisoners then you're in the wrong business.
If Handler's sort of humor is good enough for Lindsay Lohan then it should be good enough for everyone else.
But then, she's not exactly a respected comedian, is she? She was always more of a wannabe who got lucky.
I don't get her appeal. Her whole "snarky bored bitch" persona isn't interesting. She's like a real-life Daria.
I used to not have much respect for her until I saw some other comedians like Whitney Cummings and Kathy Griffin attempt their own talk shows and fail, and it gave me newfound admiration for what she does. But she hardly hosts her own show anymore. Five months into the new year and she's had at least four weeks of guest hosts. And I think her gay-friendly cred is bullshit, since every week she allows to Chris Franjola to do his hateful, grotesque homophobic Gay Caveman character. I'm not the type to call homophobia at everything I see, but that is fucking execrable.
We don't think of her.
She reminds me of just about every cocktail waitress or bartender that I worked with while attending university. They were not attending...
She is funny, and I don't care how crude. What I don't like is how mean she is to the people that she LIKES and hangs with. The world's oldest waitress. Some of you will get this. After close, when all sit around and drink, sometimes till the sun rises, that is what Chelsea's show seems to me. She holds court.
She does have some good panelists. She is in a bad mood with one or the other and makes even her friends look bad. I think this is her big weakness as a TV host. It is a very incestuous show, and she likes to pretend that it is small time, pot smoking partying group that she just happens to be queen of. But her show and fame are big time now...
When you start having the Kardasians on, or soon to come Mariah Carey, or whomever doesn't want to be there and she doesn't like them, but because of increased popularity everyone bites their bullet and goes along with, then Chelsea Handler has lost what little she had. She had the integrity of a kick ass chick. No more.
Joan Rivers and Fashion Police are heading the same way. Because of the show's popularity they now have as guests people that Joan had only harpooned before. But River's will joke about her unwelcome guests a week later. Good on Joan, I guess.
Chelsea is a strange mix. Not very ethical and yet very sure of herself. She is selling out a bit at a time. She really is only conversationally funny. Like the waitress at closing time.....
I sometimes wonder what comedians of this ilk are "for". They're not "for" intelligence, being real (as they sell out too fast), not "for" quality, smart entertainment that is for an in-crowd. They're "for" irritated amateurism, over-it-ness, staleness and emptiness?
She (and her baffling popularity) are what is wrong with so many media personalities these days....
Snark plus sarcasm...
Minus intelligence. Or insight.
Doesn't add up to much. And doesn't compare with actual wit.
Very odd that a host of a 30 min. cable show becomes very chummy with the A list crowd, like Jennifer Aniston. Charlize Theron throwing her birthday party. What gives? Don't find her very funny. Most of her jokes fell flat when she was on WWHL about a month ago.
I follow all of the CL writers and panelists on Twitter. Sarah Colona is probably the funniest and most professional of them all.
Loni Love is hilarious on the show but not so much on Twitter. Very sweet and mostly just promotes her upcoming shows.
Heather McDonald is also funny on the show but mostly just self-promotes on Twitter.
Chris Franjola is exactly the same on Twitter as he is in real life.
Jen Kirkman comes off as a cunt. She's a finger-wagging schoolmarm. She'll tweet something and then spend the rest of the time defending herself against people who criticize her or who don't get how ironically brilliant she is. She takes this attitude that only "professional" comedians are allowed to even TRY to be funny or to have an opinion about comedy. She's in the in crowd and you're not.
I think she's actually a good person. I think I heard her say on Howard Stern that she bought a house for one of her siblings, and takes them all on paid vacations. Leave Chelsea alone!!!
She is a good waitress, made good. She takes care of her underlings. In the strange world of show biz, that includes many more talented and intelligent people than she.
Not a good person R26.
She always looks like she just woke up from an unrestful nap.
first of all, SHE'S NOT FUNNY. Nothing she says is funny! She couldn't craft an intelligent, witty zinger if her life depended on it! Second of all, SHE'S A TOTAL DUNCE!!! She brags that she didn't graduate high school... um, NO DUH!
It blows my mind that the world has not tired of her lame bitchy schtick. Even SHE has bored of it!!!
Also, she's homophobic and racist!
She thinks just because she once met a black gay guy that gives her free reign to say the most vile offensive things she wants!!!!
she's an ugly drunk
and uglier sober!
R25, agreed for the most part, but I disagree about Kirkman, I actually like how she calls people out on her bullshit. People (especially younger people) seem to think it's acceptable to tweet/email/etc rude comments to total strangers without any repercussions. It's just rude. She calls them out on it, especially if it's a young, misogynistic straight male. I admit I'm a little obsessed with her twitter feed. Nine times out of ten I agree with her. Out of all of the books the writer's on that show have written, I think hers was the most well-written and funny.
God, I sound like a shill, I promise I'm not her, nor do I know her (though I did meet her and several other of the comedians [Sarah, Josh and Loni] and all were lovely)
It is snark and sarcasm, without wit or originality or intelligence. This is promoted as ``edgy`` to the masses, who sitting on their couch watching this thinks it makes them `cool.`` It teaches the masses that being mean is cool, like that asshole chef that yells at people. Republican programming.
I don't mind Chelsea. I worry for her, I think she's smart but she needs a break. She's drunk when she's sober and that worries me.
My only concern is Jiffy. If anything happens to Chelsea what will Jiffy do? He is so freaking cute.
Mediocre and very, very lucky just like her homely buddies Jennifer and Reese.
You may be right about Kirkman, R33. She does seem smart and funny, albeit in an aging hipster kind of way. I just find her constant berating of other tweeters a little tiresome. "Ugh, there she goes again" kind of thing.
Her latest thing is about how she has chosen to remain childless and all the flack she gets about that.
she hates angelina jolie and yesterday everyone was praising angelina for her courage and she did not even mention her
It's petty, but I liked her right up until she opened her yap about Angelina. It made her come across as a bitter old skag, and justified the assumption that Jennifer is too. They still mope about it all these years later? Piss off. Brad upgraded to the best a (straight) man can get, and they BOTH need to get the fuck over it. I switched off and avoided both ever since.
It's a shame. I really liked the format of the show, because the round table guests were sometimes hilarious. Chelsea is such a miserable and bitter mean-girl that she just isn't worth it.
And who the fuck would want to fuck 50cent? Gross. Desperate.
[quote]she hates angelina jolie and yesterday everyone was praising angelina for her courage and she did not even mention her
Why should she have to praise someone she doesn't like? Plus, Chelsea's mother died of breast cancer just like Angelina's mother did, so old Angie isn't telling Chelsea anything she doesn't already know.
My cousin's friend who is a stylist to ALL the big names in basic cable says that Chelsea Handler is a too social toilet-goer.
Staff members have to listen as solid waste flees all the toxins in her body.
R41 Isn't that pretty much all celebrities?
How can a woman that rich and successful (and still, shockingly, under 40)....
look so BAD on TV?
all the time?
HD cameras are not her friend.
i was just saying she did not mention her yesterday. not even to put her down. she doesn't have to like her.
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Her supporting casts are great, especially on After Lately.
Every time I look at her, the words of Austin Powers ring in my ears:
"That's a MAN, baby!"
I have a straight friend who said he fantasized about bangin' her while watching TV late one night ...
Watching TV AFTER he took his contact lenses out.
Chelsea Handler has the Hollywood ideal of being "thin and blonde" but she's still busted as hell.
What's the deal with her FACE? I guess a steady diet of vodka will do that to a woman.
Back to her talent: If you listen to her monologue she (and/or her writers) always have a few sharp one-liners, but her act has worn thin.
I flip by her the same why I now flip by Kathy Griffin and Lisa Lampinelli.
Why would Chelsea mention Angelina? There is nothing brave about it. She got implants put in so it's not like she's Christina Applegate with no tits.
People are fools, but Appelgate had reconstruction too. What is up with the no tits comments. It is fine that she stands by her friend Aniston, and is no friend to Jolie. That is the least of her problems. I can`t imagine who she appeals too on the television.
Chelsea is a mean girl, and a lazy comic. I can admire her balls-out drinking party girl no apologies persona, but it is too bad that it seems to affect not only her appearance but her ability to do her job.
Kind of a new thing for TV. She is actively a drunk and doesn`t give a shit.
Unfortunately it shows.
Fame whore alcoholic. Complete backstabber along with Reese Witherspoon. The new Sally Jesse Raphael.
That show is passé.
By the way, I saw her in Atlanta with her crew, and she came out drunk and had to be escorted back by Josh who came out and did a set.
I sort of knew what to expect when I opened this thread. DLers are some sad, bitter fucks.
Who is liked on DL? Other than that albino turd who has a handful of stalkers...
Like all comedians, Handler has funny moments. None are consistently hilarious.
I will say that Chelsea is open in her contempt for being forced to interview E "celebrities." She recently interviewed Ryan Lochte and went off about it today. She actually referred to him (and/or his show) as "the biggest piece of shit on TV,"
On the other hand, Kathy Griffin (who I still find amusing) unapologetically promotes every crap show on Bravo, even in her stand-up.
"DLers are some sad, bitter fucks."
Welcome home, dear.
I was mortified by the way she kept referring to Zach Quinto as "girl" to his face the other nacht and he just giggled and played along.
I stopped watching about a year ago. She seems bored and can barely keep her head up. Didn't she get the show by fucking some Exec at E (not Secrest for a change...wrong sex).
I think my breaking point was when she had the Kartrashian's on and fawned all over them.
Well, I guess the E! family has to stick together.
She has become such an obvious drunk, soon something will need to be done, or she will very likely lose her E! gig. I recognize both the physical changes as well as the personality ones as I am in the same boat. I remember when I first was drinking all day long, and friends would say "you're face is changing and you will lose your looks if you keep this up". Like I cared.
Chelsea was a cute girl next door cornfed sort 5-7 years ago when she was first on Oxygen or WE. Never a beauty, but cute and funny. She is super bloated and can barely follow through an interview now. The other night she was on Letterman, the chemistry was awful, and he said "what do you do on your show when you realize an interview is going nowhere?" Wow.
That's some serious shit spoken w/o much humor. She needs to clean up or bye bye TV.
Her hair, makeup & wardrobe all suck and I'm surprised E 'allows' her to look so disheveled. I know, I know, she once had an affair with Ted whatshisname, who was/is incharge of programming & that's how she got her show. However, with her rapidly aging looks someone needs to tell her she NEEDS a stylist.
P.S. I only watch the show for the comics on her panel, not for her.
Whoever said they love Natasha Legero I could not agree more! I even still enjoy Bobby Lee from MadTV. And that fat kinda butchie Lez is hilarious too.
I can't stand that fucking bitch. Total cunt.
FYI; I met Jenn Kirkman at a party. And guess what? She's an ASSHOLE!!! She actually comes off much more likeable on the show. Lucky her. In real life... Rude Cunt.
And this was five years BEFORE Chelsea lateley. Now? Holy shit. She must be a fuckin nightmare!
Once the show runs aground, all of them will be diggin' nickles from between their sofa cushions.
I honestly cannot believe how RACIST she is. I cringe every time she tries to make a joke.
I would LOOOOOOOOOVE to know what her contemporaries think of her. REAL stand up comedians. GOD THEY MUST HATE HER!!! Comics are so competitive. Respect of a well crafted joke is everything to comics. They're like the mafia of witticisms!!!
She so fucking dumb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
She is not funny. Just mean. She seems to hide behind the drunkard persona as an excuse for some of the stupid things she says. I honestly think some of her girl possee is scared of her. The Angelina Jolie bashing is getting old. Why can't Anniston fight her own battles? I don't get her popularity or her fame.
Chelsea's show is at its best when Dave Grohl is behind the desk. Cute, funny, and a sly fox who would do great with his own show.
I just watched her interview Mindy Kaling on YouTube, and she is so domineering and interrupts her guests.
Success has unleashed her mean girl nature, and she passive aggressively bullies everyone on her show.
She wouldn't be close to as successful as she is had she not been dating the head of E!
From someone who fucked herself a tv show???
alcohol dries out your skin.
Bobby Lee is gross and unfunny. He just makes faces and insults people.
Ross Mathews is actually my favorite panelist. His jokes are so obvious yet he is so proud he came up with them that it's funny. He's always happy to be on.
My second favorite panelist is Fortune Feimster. She is a total goofball, a lesbian Chris Farley.
In recent weeks, I've been repelled by Chewy for a couple statements he's made about gay people.
Sorry, but Chelsea Handler is a colossal, overrated hack who got very lucky. She's more of a trampy anecdotalist with a drunk schtik than she is a comedian. Plus, most of her "jokes" are actually just snide, mean-spirited comments. Yes, snarky humor can be amusing, but it needs to be fundamentally clever.
I remember when she hosted the MTV Movie Awards a few years ago. She would would set up jokes and never get to the punchline. Her nerves got the better of her and she was a piss poor emcee.
I think Chelsea gets graded on a curve because she's female and she's conventionally attractive. She gets too much credit for being a pioneering comic in that regard. This was the basis for the feud with Joan Rivers. A few years ago at some E! event attended by both Joan and Chelsea, they played a sizzle reel about Chelsea Handler. The video went on an on about how much Chelsea has done for women in comedy. Anyway, when Joan got up to address the audience a little while later, she quipped "I'd like to thank Chelsea Handler for giving me my big break in comedy!"
Female comics like Joan Rivers, Sarah Silverman, Kathy Griffin, Amy Schumer, Lisa Lampanelli and Judy Gold could easily go toe-to-toe with the best male comics. Not to mention that they could go up against Chelsea Handler and hand her ass to her...even on their worse day.
Don't get me started on Whitney Cummings. Pretty much the same thing is going on there...
Looks like she should be sitting outside a trailer smoking a cigarette as her kids holler and play in the dirt "yard."
I used to love watching her show, mainly for when Jo Koy was on the panel because I think he's hilarious. But I rarely watching anymore. Koy is rarely on and Handler doesn't even seem to care anymore. She's just phoning it in most nights.
I'm sorry, but I have yet to see one female panelist on that show that was even remotely funny. I'm beginning to think Jerry Lewis is right, or Handler has no idea how to find funny women. That one buck toothed gal with the long face should be put on the street. And that boozy Arkansas gal who's never met a comb or brush is the worst.
R44, her stylist is not her friend.
I think she blew it by not covering the Reese Witherspoon debacle on the roundtable. I mean, she could've thrown the topic open for conversation and then recused herself. Not mentioning it cost her any credibility she ever had. Why is it funny to laugh at Amanda Bynes and not Reese Witherspoon? Does that mean she has something invested in pouring scorn on Amanda Bynes (et al)? It's sort of like suddenly she wasn't in on her own joke.
Jen Kirkman is like Veronica from Heathers all grown up. Or at least that seems to be what she's aiming for.
The thing that cracks me up about Chelsea Handler though is that every time someone mentions a shark or the film Jaws her reflex is to launch into the same story she always tells about how they actress was injured while shooting it and she knows this because they had summer holidays on Martha's Vineyard. It's like cute, like she was scarred by it she can't help but say it or like she's an old lady who can't remember how many times she's said it. Or something. I just think it's funny.
I liked her at first but soon tired of her schtick. I don't even watch anymore. I did like her gang on After lately.
I basically like Chelsea, but the show is wearing thin. It's all pretty much the same. Although I do appreciate her caring about freaks and gays, she can be very offputting. She also looks like something the cat has dragged in: kind of cheezy designer sweatpants outfits with usually outrageous high heels. C'mon, Chelsea, try something new. Mix it up somehow, or you'll be back in New Jersey with the rest of the buffoons.
She's just name-dropping Martha's Vineyard sp? because to some people CH would like to impress, the Vinyard sp? is prestigious in terms of privilege. She and her family probably stayed in a trailer rented by the week every summer. Her aspirations are cringe-worthy. CH very, very much wants to be the meanest mean girl in high school and this is her big chance, albeit decades after she's left high school. Finally, she's a bad drunk, even when she's sober.
Love her, love the show.
But the contrarian cunts on DL would naturally hate it.
Proof once again that most DLers wouldn't recognize talent if it walked up and slapped them in the face.
It takes a lot to offend me, but whenever Chris Franjola plays Gay Caveman or any of his other outmoded gay stereotype characters, it completely denigrates anything positive Chelsea Handler has said about gay issues on her show. Homophobic bullshit.
"Snarkiness' belongs to 20-24 year olds. Anyone 25 and older who considers themselves "snarky" has clinically low self-esteem issues and probably has few (if any) real friends. I've hated every "snarky" person I've met after leaving college and I know I'm not the only one.
I'm a big fan, but I only watch if A) I like the panel for the round table or B) I like the guest she interviews in the last segment of the show.
Some of her comedian friends and associates who appear are just annoying to me. I love Loni Love, Heather McDonald, Joy Koy, Ross Matthews and James Davis but I can't stand Josh Wolf, Ben Glieb and some of the others.
Handler has said that while growing up, she felt like an outsider, and told a reporter, "We lived in this nice Jewish neighborhood...Everyone had Mercedes and Jaguars, and I was going to school in a Pinto." Despite this, her family had a summer house on Martha's Vineyard.[3
Boo friggin hoo
[quote] she can be very offputting. She also looks like something the cat has dragged in
She doesn't make any effort in her appearance what so ever. And she acts like she would rather be anywhere else. Almost like she hates being there
As for Chelsea's family having a house on Martha's Vineyard, she has talked about that for years. And other people have written about it
The address is 12 Milikin way Edgartown MA 02539
I pretty much concur with Joan Rivers' assessment of Chelsea on the Howard Stern Show:
"She's fine, she's ordinary,she's not a genius, we all know how she got what she got...she was fucking somebody high up in the industry and they gave her a break.
"I don't find her particularly funny...she's a drunk." "Don't come after ME you whore!
"Go fuck yourself!"
Joan speaks the truth about CH.
I used to find Jen Kirkman funny but she's gotten so self-righteous and acts like she's the first woman to ever not want children.
I'm not that big a fan of Handler, but for Joan Rivers, it's not enough for her to be successful, other people have to fail.
In defense of Joan...her comments were made AFTER Chelsea Handler had made some bitchy remarks about her and Melissa on Howard Stern.
Re. "contrarian cunts"
Bitch, are you stealing my material!?
Does she still get good guests? Would Sandra Bullock do the show?
It seems like the kind of crap tv a star would have to be talked into doing.
Some of her books were funny but now she's just a bore.
I just looked at ticket prices for her tour, which is coming through NY in March (Jen Kirkman is opening for her). $145! Cheapest seat is $75. Does any other comic charge that much? I saw Kathy Griffin at Carnegie Hall a few months ago, I think I paid $75, and I was in the second row. WTF??
Is she still a fall down drunk?
I don't watch the show often but I really like her. She seems so normal compared to most tv personalities. She seems really cool.