No. 2 should be computer support. These guys have no social skills whatsoever.
Stupid list. Cop should be #1.
What, no bankers or brokers?
Don't forget coaches. I don't mean top notch coaches like in the NFL where you have to be competent. I'm talking about high school and under.
US Marine should be in there somewhere?
"Don't forget coaches. I don't mean top notch coaches like in the NFL where you have to be competent. I'm talking about high school and under."
No, there are plenty of HUGE ASSHOLES coaching in the pros and at the college level. Paterno, Sandusky, that Rutgers shitstain...
Actors, bar none. No, make that Wannabe Actors. Big difference.
Nah, Paterno was just old. Sandusky had other issues. Now the Rutgers basketball coach, he fits.
[quote]No. 2 should be computer support. These guys have no social skills whatsoever.[/quote]
You clearly have no clue what a psychopath is.
Most psychopaths tend to be fairly charming on the surface, it has nothing to do with lacking social skills.
Politicians are missing
Aren't politicians civil servants?
Football player. OJ, Rae Carruth, Ray Lewis....
[quote]Actors, bar none. No, make that Wannabe Actors. Big difference.
Well, there's not a *big* difference.
Sounds pretty accurate, although how they left off High Finance and anyone in the Armed Forces is beyond me.
I haven't read it, but it appears that the list was put together for the book "The Wisdom of Psychopaths (long title)" I don't know if the author gleaned the research to come up with the list or just threw one together that appeared to be intuitive based on case histories or personal experiences. Either way it's a great way to promote a book. He even has a list of the careers that are psychopathy negative. Care aide, nurse, and therapist are the top three.
I've seen this same last with Police Office listed more accurately as Law Enforcement.
Bullshit, nurses can be psychopaths too.
Film and tv: any potentially good-paying job in it.
And 'CEO' isn't specific enough to be an item.
R20, the idea is not that nurses CAN'T be psychopaths. It's that the nursing profession itself is less likely to attract psychopaths, presumably because nursing requires a great deal f empathy and self-sacrifice.
Interesting how "surgeon" is broken out from "doctor" which appears on the psychopathy negative list. Presumably because surgeons require greater concentration, focus, and stamina? Because they're in charge of a team in an operating room?
Maybe the author simply means that they are jobs that are least likely to attract psychopaths, not that they don't attract psychopaths at all. I mean I'm sure we've all heard of psychopathic nurses. Nursing provides an opportunity to be in control and to manipulate which makes it perfect for psychopaths. However, maybe the author has data that shows that the nursing profession is less attractive to psychopaths than the top 10 professions.
Forum moderators. I'm serious about this. It's like with cops, many love to do the job because it satisfies a need for control/power over others.
Prison Guard should be Number One.
Medical Doctor should be Number Two.
Funeral people should be Number Three
Military people should be Number Four
Wall Street Trader should be Number 5
Mafia Hit Man should be Number 6
Politician Should be Number 7
Theatrical or Sports Agent should be Number 8
Mortgage Specialist Should be Number 9
Republican CEO should be Number 10
Medical doctors require empathy and have to deal with patients directly. That's not appealing to psychopaths. But surgeon is on there, that makes more sense.
Money and the opportunity to kill people appeals to psychopaths and medicine ranks Number One in both of those. I don't think you know many doctors, R27, or perhaps have an inflated idea of a doctor father.
Cosmetic plastic surgeons who specialize in boob-jobs and face-lifts and other vanity alterations.
Put Psychologist/Psychiatrist in the Socio category.
I'm an entertainment journalist and my job attracts A LOT of psychopaths.
Funeral people, R26? I've known several. All very respectful of the dead and their families. Oh, well.
Dudes who do autopsies. They fuck the corpses, or sell the opportunity for necros to fuck the bodies. They take pics of dead bodies and post thm on message boards. We're sick fucks.
Interesting list, tho the ignorance of some posters (mainly R33) is baffling
R2 doesn't understand what a Psychopath is.
[quote]No. 2 should be computer support. These guys have no social skills whatsoever.
Lack of social skills = psychopath??
Any management position is a psychopath's dream.
Nannies and childcare attendants seem to be disproportionately insane as well.
As proof, Mommie was a KC salesgirl before her compulsion with eyebrow tweezers, abrasive cleansers, fame and all my 'uncles'.
[italic]Good[/italic] films directors are unlikely to be psychopaths, because psychopaths cannot create art, they can only imitate it (probably why Hitler could not get into art school). Psychopaths also cannot understand empathy, which would make it difficult for them to direct good performances.
However, there are plenty of less-than-stellar film directors who would probably qualify as psychopaths - Michael Bay, Ryan Murphy, Bryan Singer...
Anyone associated with the business end of showbusiness is a prime candidate for psychopathy.
Here's the article's "good person" list. It's also bullshit.
"...And for those looking to potentially avoid working with the least number of psychopaths, here’s the list of occupations with the lowest rates of psychopathy:
1. Care aide
6. Charity worker
8. Creative artist
[quote]Anyone associated with the business end of showbusiness is a prime candidate for psychopathy.
But in show business, they all are.
Real estate agents; they should also be on the world's dumbest list.
I would add: paid moderator at FreeRepublic.com.
I wonder when he collected his data. Nursing has become less of a calling and more of a 'sure shot' job (at least until so many new RN grads flooded the market). I know four people who went to nursing school purely for the money. All maliciously joke about their patients.
At Columbia U. where there is a clear distinction b/t physicians and surgeons, surgeons are referred to as the "I Am God Brigade."
R30 psychopath and sociopath are the same thing. The proper term is antisocial personality disorder.
I knew a doctor who was a total bigot. I know that's not a psychopath but I could never figure out how such a person would want to be In a job that requires empathy.
R50, that's because nurses don't do what nurses used to do. In fact in backwaters, even LPNs don't do what nurses used to do, unless they are in a specialty area. Both supervise more and perform direct care less. For example, surgical nurses actually assist with surgery and neonatal nurses actually treat newborns directly.
11. Gwyneth Paltrow
12. Serial Killer
13. Graphic Artist
Surgeons being on that list doesn't surprise me at all. A few of my relatives work or worked in the health care field and they have told me some psychopath surgeon stories.
I agree R45 many of the less than stellar directors would qualify as psychopaths. Ryan Murphy is probably the best example.
9. Chef 10. Civil servant
this is definitely true
Actors. That's what sociopaths do, act. They carefully observe what it is to be human and act accordingly and because they have no underlying feelings, they're are no greater actors in the world. Hollywood actors are all psychopaths.
The book that list is from is full of shit. It's a defense of psychopaths and what great things they bring to society. Probably written by one.
Any senior manager.
The upper echelons of every large corporation is crawling with psychopaths. They're probably the norm much more than the exception. Dealing with those people one-on-one is always chilling. They care about nothing--NOTHING--but money and covering their own asses.
And the fake charm...makes your skin crawl.
Psychopaths can do a good job of appearing as caring and empathetic, perhaps too well for the cleverest ones.
If chefs are anything like Top Chef or Hell's Kitchen, they should be in top.
I think clergy person should be a little closer to number 1. It's one of the more perfect professions for a psychopath, particularly when you consider things like prosperity Gospel and the use of "missionary work" to advocate for the death penalty for gays in foreign countries as possible criterion. I don't think I need to even get into the large number of horrific world tragedies linked to men of the cloth. People trust you and will do anything you tell them to do, including drink the Kool-aid. One of the more dangerous and destructive types of psychopaths.
PSYCHOLOGIST should really be a the top of that list.
What the fuck is this list?
I suspect this is right-wing media crap.
True R65, but on the other hand, 90% of them are so lazy they don't provide much of a threat.
The one I crossed paths with was a professor.
Incredible charm, but in hindsight a shallow affect and most of the other characteristics from the DSM.
Reality TV show contestants.
The greyhound racing industry is filled with them.
DataLounge poster. Or is that considered volunteer/community service?
1-5. Any kind of software programmer
7. Sport Stars
9. Government Employees
10. Fast Food Workers
I've never held any of these 10 positions so does that mean I'm alright then?
I suspect a lot of (specialised) medics might have psychopathic tendencies. How else would you be able to endure so much suffering on a daily basis?
I spend one month in a hospital (as a patient) and most doctors and nurses I encountered there seriously creeped me out. The 'Dexter' persona comes to mind. They all just seemed cold as ice, haughty and robot-like (and this was a world-class, academic hospital).
Shouldn't "being Barbra Streisand" be no 1 on the list?
Conservative Political Commentator belongs on this list.
 A lot of people in IT have terrible social skills (that cliché is true, unfortunately) and have a hard time relating to non-STEM people; they also tend to overestimate their own 'coolness', but there's usually no malice involved.
The same thing can be said about most hackers. These are usually very smart guys, but with a very limited, one-dimensional world-view, namely a strictly technological one, that lacks depth and context.
Fun…I just watched a documentary about this yesterday!
Wow - that this list must exist is bad enough, but it is especially disturbing to see "surgeon" and "chef" on the list (not to mention "clergy").
"Media" is also an interesting and concerning entry - it is so pervasive and practically all of us are exposed to some form of media every day.