Please don't let him be an upper-middle-class white boy.
You can't just give a guy what-for anymore, because they just up and die on you. and then there's that whole prison thing.
Soccer is not the sport for him I guess...
I sense a conviction for involuntary manslaughter and assault that will hopefully be brought down by trying him as an adult.
[quote]I sense a conviction for involuntary manslaughter and assault that will hopefully be brought down by trying him as an adult.
An upper-middle-class white kid? No way.
The Voice of the Night
Was either the ref or the goalie uncut?
The referee was almost certainly uncut. If the player is white, he's probably cut.
Why isn't it murder?
Hitting someone doing a voluntary pursuit?
"OOOPS, I was really angry, therefore I can punch you to death"
The racial makeup of Taylorsville was 78.2% White, 1.9% African American, 0.9% Native American, 3.9% Asian, 2.2% Pacific Islander, 9.5% from other races, and 3.4% from two or more races. Hispanic or Latino of any race were 18.6% of the population.
The median income for a household in the city was $54,881, and the median income for a family was $62,023. Males had a median income of $34,947 versus $24,801 for females. The per capita income for the city was $21,210. About 9.7% of families and 12.8% of the population were below the poverty line, including 22.1% of those under age 18 and 4.5% of those age 65 or over.
Unlikely a upper-middle-class kid.
Guys, could we for one minute think about the poor dead guy and the widow and fatherless kids he left behind.
Stories like these make me realize 'things don't happen for a (good) reason.'
Was the yellow card deserved? Why isn't the news media getting us the details we need?
[quote]Stories like these make me realize 'things don't happen for a (good) reason.'
One wonders how old you are to just now be realizing this.
R13, oh, I always knew.
But remember when the Secret came along?
I had a few friends who feel for that stuff like a ton of bricks.
It took a while from the to come around.
I feel so sorry for the referee's family. Imagine having a loved one die so unexpectedly, so unnecessarily, so stupidly. He got killed because over a soccer penalty!.
The 17 year old who killed him is obviously dangerous as hell. I hope they put him away a long time. If it were up to me I'd have him put away for the rest of his miserable life.
"Was the yellow card deserved?"
What the fuck does it matter if the yellow card was "deserved" or not? Are you saying that if it was "undeserved" the psycho kid's behavior was justified? NOBODY has the right to hit anybody else for anything, unless you're defending yourself from physical harm.
The kid is obviously some kind of monster.
Of course it matters whether the card was deserved, just as the intent of the player matters.
[quote]Of course it matters whether the card was deserved, just as the intent of the player matters.
Because everyone knows that if a ref makes a bad call, manslaughter is justified?
The Voice of the Night
I hope he gets raped in jail
No one said anything about justifying manslaughter. Everyone knows that punches are thrown every day and nothing comes of it. You can't have that set up as a societal example and then pretend that a freakishly unusual result should be treated as any old killing.
R12/R18 is INSANE. Yeah, let's care about how 'deserved' or not the yellow card is, instead of the dead referee.
It would be involuntary manslaughter. And aggravated assault.
Big question of whether he'll be charged as an adult. If not, he'll probably get juvenile detention plus probation.
Interesting to see what he's charged with and how he's punished.
"Of course it matters whether the card was deserved, just as the intent of the player matters."
Exactly WHY does it matter "whether the card was deserved?" You're obviously implying that if the card was not deserved the psycho kid's actions were justified. You're one sick fuck.
The yellow card has now been changed to a red.
He looks like he is packing on a few extra pounds. He was obviously out of shape and this probably just sped up the inevitable.
What a tragedy. Hope the kid goes to jail forever.
r25, don't get worked up over it. It's just weird (DL) humor. Pretty sure everyone is on the side of wanting this boy justly convicted.
[quote]Please don't let him be an upper-middle-class white boy.
It's not - it's a Mexican.
Heteros ruin everything. Heterosexual males ACT OUT. You have to watch out for that.
"Everyone knows that punches are thrown every day and nothing comes of it"
And what a tragedy that is...
No-one should be throwing punches at anyone, no matter the reason.
So we've determined that the player isn't hot then?
[quote] It would be involuntary manslaughter. And aggravated assault.
No, it would be regular manslaughter, not involuntary. Involuntary manslaughter is killing someone through gross negligence (recklessness). Punching someone never falls into that category unless you are trying to argue it was supposed to be like a "joke punch" or something.
[quote]Why isn't it murder?
Because there was no intent to kill. Killing someone with one punch is an extreme rarity--it cannot be reasonably assumed that anyone punching someone once intended to kill him.