Conspiracy theories like this always strain the limits of credulity, not because they are unimaginable but because they purport actions by our government that would require intelligence, planning, preparation, and execution, all perfectly for the past 60 years... a feat we know for fact that this government could in no way accomplish. We don't even know who is in the country and who overstayed their VISA, we fight entire wars based on faulty information from an informant nicknamed "Curveball", and somehow can't manage to make sure every citizen has the opportunity to vote in free ad fair elections, but you think we could keep an alien invasion quiet?
Or is this the spoiler thread for the new Star Trek movie and I'm just falling for OP's bait?
R1 that "they're too stupid to pull anything off" meme is so empty
He certainly gives one the feeling that he's telling the truth. I hope the producers of the film get more details and check them thoroughly.
No, R1, it's not viral marketing. The interviewer, Richard Dolan, is an establshed UFO author. He studied the Cold War as a Rhodes scholar and became interested in UFOs after reading many references to them.
Any other opinions? I'm very curious. What do you think? Brainwashing? Mental illness? The truth?
I don't know about the rest of you, but this is proof enough for me!
When my grandpa was on his deathbed, he kept going on about how police officers had come in to the hospice (and were on their way again) and had stolen his socks.
R6, the idiots are those who accept as truth that which they hear on CNN and read in USA Today without asking any further questions.
When I was a kid, one rarely saw footage of an earthquake occurring, a tornado touching down or a car accident. Because just as when a UFO would appear, by the time one got out their 8mm camera and loaded it with film, the event was over. All of these are events that happen with no warning and are usually over in matter of minutes, if not seconds, catching everyone off guard. Today, with surveillance cameras everywhere, dash-cams and everyone walking around with a mini video recorder on their phones, videos of earthquakes and car wrecks and tornadoes are easy to find. The same should apply to UFOs, but it doesnt. We should have hundreds if not thousands of these videos but we dont. Either the visitors have grown bored with earth and stopped visiting sometime in the late 90s, or they dont exist.
1. The existence of extraterrestrials was mathematically proven true, by Carl Sagan, years ago, based on the known size of the universe then. (Which we know is much, much bigger today)
2. Dead bed confessions are often a lame attempt to get one last bit of attention.
[quote]1. The existence of extraterrestrials was mathematically proven true, by Carl Sagan, years ago, based on the known size of the universe then.
No. You're thinking of the Drake equation, presented at a SETI conference which Sagan attended. Sagan was impressed with the equation, but he did not create it. And it doesn't "prove" the existence of extraterrestrial life but rather discusses the odds in which life on other planets might exist.
The equation also says nothing about the possibility of said life being (a) intelligent and (b) capable of interstellar travel, much less about the possibility that our planet has been visited. In fact, Sagan argued that the chances of extraterrestrial spacecraft visiting Earth were "vanishingly small."
[quote]What do you make of this?
I can make a hat, or a brooch, or a pterodactyl...
[quote]What do you make of this? Aren't deathbed testimonials typically given more credence?
In very limited circumstances. Statements about the cause or circumstances of what the speaker believes to be his imminent death can be admitted as evidence in a homicide case or in civil cases when the speaker is dead (or otherwise unavailable).
Otherwise, dying declarations are generally not allowed in evidence in federal courts and most state courts.
^ because they are hearsay.
Bitch with the breathy voice is at least worth an honorable mention.
I don't know enough about anonymous to tell you if he was brainwashed, or mentally ill, R5. But my original supposition still stands; if there was evidence as this guy claims, that there was an alien invasion on the scale he describes, it would be impossible for our government (and ostensibly the governments of other nations, lest we assume aliens are interested in only invading the USA) to keep such a massive coverup perfectly intact for more than 60 years. And don't you think that an alien species bent on invasion would keep at it despite an initial failure?
I actually believe we are not alone in the universe. I think the Earth and humanity is actually pretty average when it comes to interstellar life. We have barely dipped our toes in space exploration, and have discovered that interplanetary travel is extraordinarily difficult. Moreover, we don't have a lot to offer aliens and haven't really given any a good reason to come calling. The science fiction of H.G. Wells is not a reasonable explanation notwithstanding.
The much more likely explanation is a coverup of governmental misdeeds, and anonymous was lead to believe it was aliens to shut him up.
What makes this so interesting is the fact that we can be sure that "Anonymous" is really a former CIA official, and not just some random mentally ill old geezer.