I feel somehow depressed about it.
Can't explain it. Just -- nothing is the same. Many of my friends are gone or moved away. I still live in my same little rent controlled apartment that I acquired back in 1988.
The hallway still smells like lentils.
RENT CONTROLLED??? You have no reason to be depressed.
yeah, rent controlled and NYC
How much is your rent and how big is your apartment and where is it located (general area)?
I know how you feel. I lived there 26 years and finally left. My friends all left too and would call periodically and say they couldn't believe that I had the same job, same number and lived in the same apartment.
New York, this is your last chance!
I live in Tudor City. It's quiet and pleasant enough.
It has undergone a lot of change. I really dislike that NYC is now some 1% play land. People like that are clueless and parasitic - they offer nothing to culture, except their money, with which they are often too stingy.
On the other hand, I think some new kind of sui generis cultural uprising is right around the corner for all of America.
I couldn't imagine living in NYC past the age of 50. It seems like it would be too physically challenging for an older person with all the walking and crowds.
a city that you can walk in is actually better for older people (and all humans)
50??? LOL, R8.
NYC is one of the best cities in the country for older adults.
That's true, R9. But I'd rather walk around a quaint town or park area than the mean streets of NYC.
So go back where you came from and stop bitching. If you weren't born here, you're not a real NY'er anyway.
White people problems.
[quote]NYC is one of the best cities in the country for older adults.
They would have to be very healthy older adults with no mobility problems. What do you do if you get arthritis or leg problems and you're stuck there?
Unless you're rich like Liza or Lauren Bacall, NYC would be a very scary place for most seniors.
wouldn't it be worse if you were in a town that had fewer stores, doctors and the few things that existed were far away? And good luck if you can't drive
Mobility issues would be problematic anywhere. But NYC has services for people who are homebound that other communities don't have.
I'm with post that want to in the "murder she wrote" town. I would love a small cape house with a big cozy fire and good napping couch.
OP, you would be much happier in a place like Asheville, NC, or St. Augustine, FL.
MR. GRANSINGER'S SECRETARY: But New York is the center of everything!
MAMA ROSE: New York is the center of New York!
Can people enjoy anything anymore?
The internet seems to encourage everyone to complain about everything. Everything is annoying, disappointing, and on and on.
I would slit my wrist if I still lived in an apartment, fuck forbid a goddamned studio.
Damn OP, I can't imagine.
I've been here 5 years and I feel like I've almost already had enough. I'm still here for career (which is finally starting to pick up) but I cannot WAIT until I establish myself enough to work somewhere else (I'm a writer).
I do enjoy it I guess, but I just find it so dirty and smelly and crowded and you're constantly exposed to the dregs of society at all times. Someone up thread called it a 1% play land and it totally is. It's just completely overrun by these boring, soulless corporate types. Even worse than them are the wannabe A-gay robots who think that dining out and spending too much money on clothes makes them interesting.
I'm really thinking about giving it a shot in Atlanta, DC, Denver, San Francisco, L.A., or virtually any other large city. I just don't know if I can spend my entire adult life living in this one city.
OP, 34 years here. Like a rock in a turbulent stream, all the edges have been rounded off this town.
We're going against the tide. A few more years we'll finally buy a car and a condo in the Florida sky. Everyone else seems to be car sharing - at best - and moving into the city centers.
But it's really not all that anymore. It's entirely about my many friends of 30-40 years who live here.
I'm over it too. Came here two years ago all wide-eyed and ready to "conquer" the city. When I came back down to earth, I realized it's nothing but a dirty, grimy place to live with so many self-absorbed people crammed into tiny apartments. I just switched jobs to Jersey City, and plan on moving to a small town in Jersey. Good riddance!
OP, I think you need to turn off the that Billy Joel record.
[quote] I think some new kind of sui generis cultural uprising is right around the corner for all of America.
If I knew what this meant, would it make any difference?
OP, if you got that apartment in 1988, that makes 25 years you have been there, not 35. Unless you lived somewhere else the first ten. Or this is a troll post. The latter is more likely.
There are an awful lot of people who disagree with you and who love living in NYC or would love to move there.
Why would it be a troll post? I moved, you fool, in the late 80s.
Your post says you have lived there for THIRTY FIVE years. If you moved there in the late 80's, that is TWENTY FIVE years. Dumbass.
He never said he was in the same fucking apartment for 35 years, fuckface.
You moron r31, I MOVED INTO MY CURRENT APARTMENT in the late 1980s. How is this difficult to grasp?
R31. Fucking idiot. He has been in NYC 35 years and acquired his shitty little apartment 25 years ago. He lived somewhere else for 10 years. Too complex for you?
Now all this sounds like New Yorkers!
I POSTED that at R29 (because the original post could be interpreted that he moved to the CITY in 1988) but the OP did not explain it at r30.
I don't give a shit how long he has lived there, only that he is a whiner. Many people would kill to have a rent controlled apartment in NYC. The grass is always greener, though.
R36, you and r31 are equally simple. You should connect.
These math problems are tearing us apart!
R37, I am the same poster. If you used troll-dar you would have seen that.
Anyone could have misinterpreted how long this douchewad has lived in NYC. His original post is unclear and his reply at R30 is also unclear. He is not a good communicator.
My confusion is easily understandable.
Learn to use troll-dar to see who the posters are.
I will commit to using troll dar if you commit to remedial English and math.
Almost 20 years and leaving at the end of the year!!! There is a whole wide world out there and I want to experience some of it. NYC will always be here and when/if I am ready to come back I will find a way to do it.
"Anyone could have misinterpreted how long this douchewad has lived in NYC. His original post is unclear and his reply at [R30] is also unclear. He is not a good communicator."
Actually, you're just stupid. Deeply stupid.
Oh fucking sake, who fucking cares how many years he's lived here. Get back to the discussion at hand about leaving vs. staying in NYC as you get older.
You HAVE to live in New Orlean's French Quarter for at least PART of your life---or you haven't lived at all.
Do you have noisy upstairs neighbors who won't put down carpeting and thick padding? Blonde bar girls who come in at 2AM and walk around in heels and drop their cement dildos on the floor?
Uh no r44. New Orleans is perfectly fine to visit but I would never live there. Same problems as OP states. Dirty and smelly and too expensive to live there. Its fun to visit the big city on vacation but I'm happy where I'm at.
Small town guy
Going on 20, finally moved to Brooklyn, and it's not far enough. Kinda wish I'd taken all my money from the Manhattan digs that I bought when the market was low and just left entirely. I just don't utilize the city enough, and parking is a hassle. I have a place in the Catskills, and would just rather be there.
I have a question for r31/r36. Why did you bother to come into this thread if you thought the OP was a whiner? I hate contentious shit stirrers like you who go into every thread where someone is in despair or unhappy with their living situation or is having a problem with a relationship, or they have to deal with a fucked up family member, or they hate their jobs but can't afford to quit, and instead of offering solid advice or even a bit of empathy, you tell them what whiny little bitches they are. Why don't you try starting a thread of your own? Or do you lack the imagination, let alone the eighteen dollars, that it would require? New York can be a lonely and enervating place. Finding an affordable place to live is often a double edged sword. At first you feel elated, but if it turns out you don't really like the building, your neighbors or the neighborhood, and you can't afford better, it becomes a prison. OP, I have lived in New York for thirty-eight years and I fantasize everyday about a small house with a backyard, a porch and a fire place. Keep hope alive.
Congrats! I've been here for almost 2 decades and I still love it. Although I don't know if I will live here forever. I can't stand the people here sometimes, the outsiders who come here to "make it," they are so self-absorbed and full of shit that I just can't stand it but I don't have a choice since I have to deal with these fake posers in my line of work.
Now, now boys. Get a room.
You still pay rent?
Oh dear. Can't seem to wrap my mind around that. Perhaps another Fuzzy Mimosa out by the pool pavilion.
The things people endure.....
[quote]It has undergone a lot of change. I really dislike that NYC is now some 1% play land. People like that are clueless and parasitic - they offer nothing to culture ***.
Is this really true? I've only visited NYC as a tourist, have never lived there. I read that all the time on DL. I don't doubt that it's become more sanitized, more commercialized, but it's so big and has so many different areas and neighborhoods, can ALL the edge and what old school NYC residents loved about really be gone?
R51 I don't care to waste cash on property taxes, gardeners and roof repairs.
Some people prefer to live modestly and invest the rest.
Sometimes people are not happy no matter where they live.
They are always looking for some place "better" more "interesting." But it is not the place, it is them.
OP, it seems like things are radically shifting for lots of people this year. Especially this Spring. Maybe it's time to try someplace else? It doesn't matter how great a city might be. Sometimes you're just meant to try a different place. How about Amsterdam? Or California?
Since this is anonymous, and for the sake of non-NYers, would you mind sharing your square footage and rent? I'm so curious...
I agree, R54; it's obvious OP is a malcontent. 35 years isn't nearly long enough to have given the city an honest try.
Well, OP, there are quite a few bridges around Manhattan you can jump off from, so this has worked out very well for you.
R52, there are definitely lots of parasites and leeches around here. They just take and take but give nothing. I know so many of these people socially and they are usually from out of town who are trying to make it in the arts/music scene but are dirt poor.
I had a temp gig working at this bar and this particular bar mgmt was asleep at the wheel, my co-worker thought he was a rock god and gave free drinks to his similarly deluded friends all day long. They get free drinks and yet they don't even tip. But they have the cash to get nasty tattoos of the devil or satanic symbols and their postings on FB are so fucking ridiculous, fucking cliches.
OP, I am sure when you move somewhere else, THEN you will be happy.
[quote] I just switched jobs to Jersey City, and plan on moving to a small town in Jersey. Good riddance!
Ha! Wait until you drive in New Jersey on their insane toll highways. Or drive down Rt 22 in Union, where every store straddles a highway with no lights. You take your life in your hand because you literally have to shoot into traffic to get out of the parking lots. You'll be raying for hte subway.
And every day some go away.
So it's like living somewhere new OP, since none of your old friends are places are there. Start exploring the city as a newbie.
All you cuntresses need is some good dick.
I wouldn't live in nyc for 2 minutes. Expensive, crowded, full of "new yorkers", terrorist target, terrible weather, concrete jungle.
Too many NYC'ers here in St Augustine as it is.
Please move to Boston in the springtime.
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