I ordered it from Time-Life and it came last week. Great to revisit.
Brian Wimmer (Boonie) always seemed a little gay.
Season One is a bit light on the war and heavy on ploys like USO auditions (oh, Chloe Webb!)and Cherry looking for her brother. Season Two ramps up the darkness and makes it a better show.
Marg Helgenberger was never a gorgeous beauty, she had a hard look (did she on "Ryan's Hope" as well?) but she looks better on "Beach" before the surgery.
And Tim Ryan who palyed Natch (McMurphy's squeeze in Season One) was hot but he's vanished.
Nan Woods, not invited to the reunion
$200 is a bit steep for this as it would be a blind-buy for me. I am hoping it will go down in price in a few months, and then I'll bite.
Is it streaming anywhere?
Used to love this show
It's too expensive now. I'll wait.
I disagree. Marg was very attractive in the China Beach days, though Dana was the real beauty.
Most likely it won't go down in price unless they start offering it on Amazon. Each season does have it's own unique UPC code which could mean they'll be doing the retail set after a few months.
Chloe Webb is at the reunion on the DVD.
I have the first season DVD. I would not say it's light on the war. The episode following the pilot is about a pregnant Vietnamese throws a grenade into a bar.
Dana Delany was gorgeous, but she was not a stick back then.
Brian Wimmer was one of the hottest guys to ever appear on a TV show. China Beach was a pretty good show. How good is the DVD set?
The DVD comes with a warning that the picture quality may be uneven, but I haven't noticed any bad spots. There's a commentary on the pilot by the creators. It was recorded in 2003. Also interviews with Dana and others.
Chloe Webb looked PSed on Tales Of The City. How does she look on China Beach?
I haven't bought it
Chloe was never beautiful, but she looks vivacious on CB.
How fat is Rikki Lake on this?
Rikki isn't in the first season.
Ricki was 260 lbs when filming China Beach. At least that's what she told one of those entertainment shows when they interviewed the cast for the reunion.
Ricki's first appearance is season 3, episode 2.
I enjoyed the first season immensely. Cherry was the weakest link, but even that was well done.
I just finished the first season.
Why did Chloe leave at the end of season 1? Was she working on something else?
I just bought the set
Here's an article about Dana from 1989.
"So while Haley went off on a never-ending honeymoon, Delany, now 33, went to acting school. "I know, I sort of did it backwards: Broadway, soap operas, then acting school," she says. The lessons paid off: Delany landed another theatrical role, this time as the star of Bloodmoon. The play moved to Los Angeles, and she went with it. Then the television offers started coming in. And not just any offers.
She played Bruce Willis' girlfriend on Moonlighting.
She played Tom Selleck's girlfriend on Magnum, P.I.
"I was everybody's girlfriend. I'm the type of girl you're supposed to marry," says Delany, who is single.
She wasn't complaining about playing opposite Selleck or Willis, who was a longtime friend, but "you do worry about being typecast. It can definitely be a death trap to be tagged so early as a certain type.""
"Wearing fatigues means the actress doesn't have to worry about her weight, although she does. "I gained 10 pounds the first season; now I have Pritikin diet food served on the set," says Delany, who is wearing a second-skin black
dress that shows what terrific shape she's in.
She would just as soon skip the beach scenes, particularly the evening ones - the evenings her character McMurphy lives for. "What I really love are the medical scenes. I just love all that bloody stuff in the operating room," the actress says."
I'm watching season one this weekend. I forgot how powerful the show could be. Didn't it get really weird in later seasons?
Brian Wimmer was a hot piece of ass.
The last season was probably a major influence on LOST since the show was bouncing back and forth between time frames. ABC's scheduling made it doubly challenging as they dribbled out the last group of episodes. There was an arc but you had to be on your toes to catch it all.
Easily one of the most brilliant series on television. But that box set is too rich, will have to wait for the individual sets. A bit at a time...
The last season had some time jumping. I think that was partially done to accommodate Marg's real life pregnancy.
JJ Abrams did time jumping before Lost, notably in Felicity.
Surprised that Concetta Tomei is only 68. I thought she was in her 50s on CB, but she was only 42 when it started.
The last season is very well done. The way they wrote Helgenberger's pregnancy into the script worked well.
Webb only signed on for Season One. She was credited as "Special Guest Appearance" in every episode.
Boonie was wounded in action and when he came to China Beach and met KC, I'm sure she pulled some strings to get him to be the lifeguard.
Robert Picardo is only three years older than Dana Delany.
I thought Webb was the best foil for McMurphy.
Wasn't the "first season" a summer replacement series? And then when it returned, Chloe Webb wasn't part of it. And Marg H. who'd been a hooker, was now a hair dresser. I loved that original series but it got sanitized when it was renewed.
R35, no and no. The show premiered in April 1988 for a test run. KC was more than a prostitute; she referred to herself as a businesswoman. Even in the first season, she's running black market goods. The prostitution (which lasted all four seasons) was just one of her many businesses.
The hair salon was engineered by Boonie as Lila wanted KC off the base as she felt she was degenerate. The salon was to give KC the upper hand as offering a legit business.
R35 - Marg's character KC was always a prostitute. She started a hair dressing business to have a front.
The arc of KC and her father came to a heart wrenching climax in the episode when her now college-age daughter meets KC's sister. And suddenly, a lot more about KC made sense.
I've never understood Chloe Webb's career. She's always been a major highlight in shows she's appeared in, but always disappears after the first season. Takes of the City also comes to mind. It's a real shame.
I can't remember--did Cherry ever find out what happened to her brother? Before she was blown up, that is.
r40: I'm trying to remember. Didn't KC find him in an opium den? I can't remember if that was before or after she died
Yes, Cherry found her brother (with K.C.'s help) in a drug den. He doesn't recognize her; he thinks she's a new prostitute! Later, K.C. tells him of his sister's death. He wants to get out of Vietnam, but it's complicated because he doesn't have a passport (or something like that). He wants K.C. to help him but she won't...until her offers her prime heroin as an incentive. She almost goes through with it, but in the end her conscience kicks in and she backs out.
I know Cherry gets killed but what exactly happens to her? As I recall, she's standing in a doorway then falls forward with a look of shock on her face. What happened? Was she shot? Did she die in a bomb blast? When her body was brought back she looked like nothing had happened to her at all; she looked peacefully asleep.
She died at the start of the Tet Offensive
Bought the second season. It's as good as I remember
thanks r43. I had forgot KC was hooked on heroin. I do remember the "Tet" episode. It appeared Cherry was in some kind of blast but your right when they all gathered around her body she was intact
I think they did that so our last images of Cherry wouldn't be a bloody, pulpy mess. It was 1989 on network TV.
If you look closely when they are shipping Cherry's body on the helicopter at the end of the Tet episode, the sheet is covering most of her body but there is blood on her uniform.
It's like they accidentally killed the actress who played her as Nan Woods never worked again.
(And the guy who played Cherry's brother was the yellow-eyed demon on "Supernatural.")
I know the death of Cherry was supposed to be this big shocking thing but I always found her character uninteresting so I didn't care.
I had to look Cherry up on IMDB and I still don't remember her.
I liked the character of Cherry, and she showed promise at the beginning of Season Two as she got stronger. But the story I've always heard is the actress wanted to leave showbiz and she must have as she vanished entirely.
But the way she was written off and its impact was stellar.
r47, I actually met Cherry's brother (Fred Lehne) at a Supernatural convention years ago. He's a nice guy. He had a lot of interesting stories about his work. I should have asked him about China Beach but I forgot he was on it.
Cherry becomes less naive after finding out about Rick, and her character becomes less valuable.
There are episodes of CHINA BEACH that are some of the finest writing and acting I've ever seen on television: the encounter between KC and Boonie after her father dies; Picardo's meltdown with the statue of St Francis peering over his right shoulder; Delany's return to the base after a visit home; Marg's body language in the plane carrying Nan Woods' remains...stunning, stunning work.
I just bought the third season but haven't watched it yet
I want to buy this. one of my favorite shows of all time.
It really does hold up, but some episodes are almost too intense to watch. Dana Delany is amazing.
"Dana Delany is amazing."
Marg too, but she's not nearly as central to the show as Dana.
I wonder if Marg and Dana ever scissored
I loved watching both "China Beach" and "Tour of Duty" as I'm a history geek. I miss those offerings such as "Winds of War" and "The Last Convertible." Yeah, I'm an elder.
WEHT Brian Wimmer?
R59 - There are more than plenty of rumors about Dana's sexuality. As far as I know, little about Marg.
What rumors about Dana's sexuality? It's quite clear and consistent where her interests lie.
Now to more important points: where can one find information about the designer of the stained glass windows in K.C.'s apartment? Would love to find complete pictures of them.
The story I heard is that Nan Woods had some trouble adjusting to the sudden fame and asked to be let out of her contract. I loved her character and I thought she was a very natural actress, as well. Her death episode and the following one ("cherry") are incredibly powerful. McMurphy reading Cherry's unfinished letter home to KC is one of my favorite scenes. Also love Kathy Bates in the season two finale.
Nan lives in Utah now and has done some local commercial.
Is it confirmed that Dana is a lesbian?
She's not out if she is one. She still talks about meeting a man.
I love that Dana Delany had a part in the L Word.
Scroll to 1:40 for the good stuff
Dana is likely bi but seems to ultimately choose men. She's incredibly gay friendly. I was lucky enough to meet her and have a brief convo with her and she was laid back and friendly. I have such a crush on her!
Dana Delaney hosts a documentary about the Vietnam Nurses. The comentary by the nurses is very moving.The average age of a nurse who served in Vietnam was 22. They received no debriefing, no support and no acknowledgment of their contribution when they returned home.
Would someone insert the link properly. Thanks.
On "China Beach," they used very dark filters but in the outdoor scenes, she looked like she had very dark, dark red hair.
In many otehr shows she was on, it always looked brunette but could have been lighting.
Watching season 2. Megan Gallagher had a look you don't see often on TV, then or now. Long curls and voluptuous.
Just watched the Dennis Farina episode - he plays a war mongering colonel who hits on Lila, Wayloo, and KC. Winds up with Lila.
Marg really did well in the Cherry episode where KC is fighting heroin withdrawal and has to deal with Cherry's brother.
Marg was great on this show
She was. I loved her interactions with Dana.
And the last shot of Marg in that episode is iconic and so moving.
Did Chloe Webb fuck up her gig on SHAMELESS? Her Brit counterpart made way more appearances on the UK original.
Why did Megan Gallagher leave after a season?
Did she leave or was her character just written out?
They wrote her character out. She goes to a job with the BBC. But why? Was she only supposed to be there a year or did something happen?
You people sure are old.
R84 - Go play in traffic.
She may have gotten a job on another series for more money. Megan was very hot for a few years, meaning in-demand. She lucked out by getting on an MTM series. If the MTM people liked you, they'd use you on other MTM shows.
I knew a relative of hers. Megan was quite grounded -- got a financial advisor who put her on an allowance and invested her money. TV fame doesn't usually last more than 10 years for most women. She has a couple of kids and one or both have learning problems. She still works. Her brother-in-law Kevin is a makeup artist/special effects guy and is married to DL's favorite nurse Catherine Hicks.
R96 - Except for the final episode, Megan's last CB episode was 1989. She did not work much during the next couple of years.
She had recurring roles in two different tv series after China Beach. And sometimes shows air a year after theyve been filmed.
She has a sister who is also an actress and who attended Juilliard and was in Houseman's company, just like Megan was, and her sister never made it in theater or on tv. You never know what's in store for you when you choose the entertainment industry for a career.
Megan won awards for her stage role in A Few Good Men, but Demi Moore, a big star at the time, was chosen for the movie. Hollywood did not want to risk putting an unknown in the role.
Anyway, I asked my husband about her. He's the one whose friend was very close with one of her siblings. He said that he heard one or both of Megan's kids have some kind of special need or learning disability.
I never met her. I met her sibling, who was a decent enough actress and was attractive but who didn't have anything that made her different from tons of other actresses. I only saw her in one stage production (which was some really weird experimental play that was also historical --- a hot mess is what it was), and she didnt stand out in any way. She was a very nice person.
Megan had an unusual look that most men really liked and there was a warmth about her. Her looks really fit the late 80s/early 90s.
Megan did have unusual looks - a mane of lush curls, a voluptuous body. Her character and Dana's were close. Was she and Dana?
Ain't nothing but a thing.
The lady who wrote the book from which the main character was based died very young.
Megan Gallagher is very cool. She continues to pop up in episodic guest roles, like Grey's Anatomy. She is good friends with Christine Elise, who played KC's daughter.
Home By Morning was a bunch of bullshit. I wish I had never found that out. I bought the book and couldn't put it down. I read it in about two days. Lent it to a few people and they had the same reaction.
Years later I wanted an update on her and to read some more about nurses over there. Found a webpage from people she served with who totally debunked her and her story.
I looked for that website, r104, but couldn't find it. When her book came out, some critics feared the reactions of families who would think their loved ones didn't get the best care after they were wounded, but that is where it stopped and so far, has not continued, based on my search.
I found this, though --
R104, I'd be interested in looking at that website. If you find it, let me know.
I think that with the transient nature of people's tours in Viet Nam, Gallagher's role as Wayloo Marie was only supposed to be for a season.
And no, her character and Delany's were not supposed to like one another. They even admitted as much when they went back to the States in the two-part season finale. Wayloo, as a journalist, was always getting on McMurphy for an interview and McMurphy resisted. Once Cherry died was when McMurphy and KC started to become friends so the show focused a lot on that.
I think Cherry's death was a pivotal event of the show.
Well I read Home Before Morning in 2009 to help with a college paper. I had become obsessed with Vietnam and could get enough info. Please understand I had no intention or wish to discredit her. I was pretty sad when I found the stuff out. I should have probably kept my fingers off the keyboard and not told her.
After I read this book a read A LOT of others(read Rumors of War that's a good one too). So of course I got on the internet and started surfing around about Vietnam. I came to this page where people checked in with old units. You know "does anyone know....from the....". Eventually her unit came up and people from the unit were messaging, still, about the crock of bull her book was. Then I did some more research.... I'll try to find find it.
Sally Field had actually optioned the book for a movie. Sometime in the mid-80s. She became upset about the inaccuracies, composite characters, and outright lies that she just dropped it. I think Cher wanted to do it to but she withdrew also.
Such is life. I really, really wish I hadn't read the stuff about her. Sorry if I ruined anyone's feelings about the book.
I don't see Sally Field or Cher playing McMurphy.
VanDevanter was apparently a background nurse during the pilot episode. Dana Delany says that the scene when Laurette is singing to the dying soldier and they focus on McMurphy watching, Delany was actually watching VanDevanter.
Well Home Before Morning wasn't McMurphy it was a "true" story and it was 1985. I guess Sally was still young enough by Hollywood standards.
Is there a link r109?
Well here's something from 1985 about Sally and the movie. I will look for some of the Vietnam pages I was reading. Whether it's about this book or not some are really good reading. It's been a while since I've delved into the stuff because I had to withdraw from the topic. I got so into it that it wasn't healthy. It could just be too depressing.
This was just from a ten second search. I'm sure it wouldn't be so hard to dig more....I just don't really want to.
All the military sites seem positive about Home Before Morning.
From r114's link:
[quote]Among other things, Mrs. Walsh and others object to a passage in ''Home Before Morning'' that describes the nurses at Pleiku as having ''partied as hard as we worked and when we slept, it was frequently because we had passed out from too much alcohol or too much exhaustion.''
Sounds like M*A*S*H* -- nothing surprising.
Whatever the truth, watching McMurphy slowly descend into alcoholism over the course of the series was well done.
Of all the episodes, I think my favorite, the one the pierces my heart the most is the penultimate episode, when McMurphy is suffering PTSD brought on by an incident as simple as her dog being hit by a car. The final scene which nends with McMurphy saying, "When is it ever going to end?" was great.