No one said that, idiot at R1.
Apparently an Oscar for her bravura performance in HUD prior to the stroke is something you just pretend didn't exist. Even THE SUBJECT WAS ROSES and COOKIE'S FORTUNE don't touch it.
After her stroke she did TV ads for Anacin, with the slogan "Fight pain and win!" When I was a kid that was one of the first artifacts of camp I remember identifying.
She was very beautiful even into old age.
[quote]When I was a kid that was one of the first artifacts of camp I remember identifying.
I hope your later "artifacts" were higher quality than that.
"Do y'all wanna see my Christmassss caaaaactusss?"
Her husband, Roald Dahl, was an awful, awful husband to her.
She was the downright Lindsay Lohan in Liz and Dick when she walked her way through The Fountainhead.
Yes, but she had the pleasure of enjoying Gary Cooper's 'horse sized cock', as it's always described, for many years. As did I .
I saw her strolling down Lexington Ave. one afternoon in the late 1990's, she looked gorgeous, and of course, impeccably dressed.
Patricia Neal, Cherry Jones, and Kathy Bates are Tennessee's finest actors bar none. I always thought that was neat.
Patricia Neal was one tough chick who seemed to have lived a very full life. I wonder if she ever hung out with Ava Gardner? I am reading a book about Frank Sinatra and Ava Garder is made out to be a size queen of all things so I can't help but wonder if Patricia Neal and Ava Garder ever hung out and compared notes on a thing or two. Two Southerners. Both size queens. Know what I mean?
At any rate. Patricia Neal was just epic. Loved her. Vaguely recall the t.v. movie about her as well. I don't think there is anyone in acting who is like her at all, she was very original.
Friends of mine knew her in her later years and loved her, said she was very funny.
But, OP, the AMC guy didn't say "Damned good actress." What he said was "Damned. Good. Acress."
[quote]I hope your later "artifacts" were higher quality than that.
Well, I was 8. It got better.
[quote] I can't help but wonder if Patricia Neal and Ava Garder ever hung out and compared notes on a thing or two. Two Southerners. Both size queens. Know what I mean?
Most people don't choose their acquaintances the way you seem to imagine.
R12, how he was awful to her?
R20, more like how wasn't he? Dahl was an alcoholic. Always cheated on her.
Omg R21 really? When i was a kid i was reading his books with so much pleasure. I really loved 'The Witches', 'Matilda', 'Charlie and the Chocolate Factory' and 'The BFG'. To me he is known for the books he wrote for children, i had no idea that he was also a drunkard and a cheater. Lol!
Dahl was all that--but she did credit him with working tirelessly with her to recover from the stroke.
She was one of my favorites. I saw "7 Women" on TCM yesterday, and I read she was originally supposed to do the Anne Bancroft role--she would have been great.
So many memorable performances, but the one that always gets me is from The Christmas Miracle (later the basis for The Waltons) when Patricia Neal comes up the basement stairs holding a blooming Christmas cactus and says in that throaty voice, "Anybody want to see something purdy?". That was my Mama right there. I'm tearing up even as I type this.
"The Homecoming," R24.
After her stroke, her fans came to love her slight slurring and "juicy mouth."
Post stroke, rare is the scene when she is not holding a tissue to surreptitiously wipe away her excess saliva.
Roald Dahl was a typical stoic Norgeman during her recovery.
How was Dahl awful to her? Well, one article described him as a "serial womaniser and ruthlessly detached, cold-blooded character capable of emotional cruelty."
He was a very intelligent, witty man; he could be very charming and sexy (I never could get his appeal, but apparently women went for him). But he could also be insufferably rude and thoughtless and cruel. After an instance where he behaved like a dick, she seriously considered breaking off their engagement. But she was in her mid-twenties, wanted a family and he seemed like a good prospect, so she married him.
He was always very nasty to her family. He looked down on them for being ordinary Southern people. He considered himself superior.
After her strokes he treated her quite brutally; it was a king of "tough love", I guess. Later she said his treatment motivated her, but it was still hard to take.
She was doing those coffee commercials when a female wardrobe assistant was assigned to her. She was a younger woman named Felicity Crosland. They became good friends; Crosland was a frequent visitor to her home and was always bringing her and her children gifts. Later Neal realized that was doing her best to ingratiate herself into her family. Neal was still recovering from her strokes; it took a while but finally she realized that her husband and her "best friend" had been carrying on a torrid affair right under her nose for quite some time. EVERYBODY knew what was going on except for poor Pat.
When Neal found out about the affair Dahl and Crosland cooled it for a while. Neal thought it was over, but after a terrible Christmas holiday one of her daughters told her that Dahl was still seeing Felicity Crosland. Dahl said "that's right, I am" and walked out of the room. Neal knew it was finally over and they eventually divorced.
After they divorced, Dahl married Crosland. He and Crosland always made a big deal about how smitten they were with each other, which rubbed salt into Neal's wounds. Yes, Roald Dahl was a HORRID man.
I bartended at the premier party for "Cookie's Fortune", at the now torn down supperclub, Laurabelle. Ms. Neal sat at the bar for awhile and we chatted. I told her how much I enjoyed her work. She took my hand, thanked me, and was utterly warm and gracious. Sam Shepard was there too that night, and was very polite. He also tipped which is uncommon at such closed events.
R27, thank you very much for writing all this.
Sharing is caring. :)
R28, that' so cool! Lucky you.
Dahl seemed like a dick for hating the first Chocolate Factory adaptation, and preventing them from filming a planned sequel. One of the things that infuriated him about it was the belching in the Fizzy Lifting scene. That wasn't in his book and he thought it was outrageously uncooth. What a priss.
*kisses R41 unreasonably...
I don't know much about her or her work, but saw Hud on a Paul spree and obviously I was interested in her and she was amazing, among the best actress wins.
OK so she was supporting but she was the main female in the cast so presumably that was the rationale. It seemed to bring a bit more realism picking up where Sophia Loren left off the previous year.
I had read that her Oscar was a sympathy one a la Butterfield 8 or something and like Liz she suffered long standing health problems. But that was definitely a justified win.
Hud is fantastic, perhaps even better than The Hustler. And here we have the most realistic Paul role, playing against type but that's how you would expect him to be.
Hud is much better than The Hustler.
Gort. Klaatu Varada Nikto!!!!!!!!!
Ladies it was horrid what her husband did to her, but, how do you think Mrs. Cooper felt over what Patricia did to her?
I always say that too, R46, but am told that I am too bourgeois to "understand".
Barbara Stanwyck was the actress to campaigned to have The Fountainhead made into a film - she and Ayn Rand both belong to some anti-Commie group called Motion Picture Alliance for the Preservation of American Ideals...Rand liked Barbara but thought her too hard-edged for the role of Dominique. And Jack Warner bluntly told her that she was too old at 40 to play the part. Stanwyck was very bitter about it for years.
I hear she tried out for the part of Mary Poppins.
ooh Vincente Minnelli
typical Hollywood story
"Ladies it was horrid what her husband did to her, but, how do you think Mrs. Cooper felt over what Patricia did to her?"
Apparently Veronica "Rocky" Cooper was not much threatened by Patricia Neal. She had an "open" marriage with Cooper; he had lots of affairs but she knew he'd never divorce her. He had the perfect set-up; a beautiful, accomplished, classy wife who accepted the fact that he was unfaithful to her and dealt with it. She did whatever she wanted too; I guess it worked out for both of them.
Patricia Neal believed that she and Gary Cooper had a "great love." He was the love of her life; he told her he loved her and it seemed serious. She got pregnant; he took her to get an abortion. He told his wife about the abortion. Neal said that "if I had been older and wiser, I would have realized that Gary had no reason to tell Rocky about the abortion unless he was going to stay with her. He was not going to pick up my option."
Has anyone seen Psyche 59? Pat plays blind and the role strangely forecasts the disabling effects of her future strokes. The film is badly directed for the most part, but she is wonderful in it.
"I had read that her Oscar was a sympathy one a la Butterfield 8 or something and like Liz she suffered long standing health problems."
She won the Oscar before she had the strokes. After she recovered from the strokes (she had to learn to walk and talk all over again and her mind was never the same) she made a remarkable comeback and was nominated for an Oscar for "The Subject Was Roses", but didn't win.
Her memoir "As I Am" is a great read. It's very honest. She was a hell of a woman.
Irene Dailey (Aunt Liz, Another World) originated the role of the mother in The Subject Was Roses on Broadway.
In film version both Jack Albertson and Martin Sheen repeated their stage roles. But Irene was replaced by Patricia.
I met Patricia Neal only a few years before she died, and I was afraid of gushing about how wonderful I thought she was.
Her husband was a cad, also a rabid anti-Semite who insanely believed that all publishers were Jews who had conspired to ruin his career. (What might if have been, if he considered that career a run?)
I went to PS 6 in Manhattan. It's on Madison Avenue, running from 81st to 82nd Street. That enabled me to watch some great funerals across the street at Frank Campbell's. Anyway, Dahl and Neal had an apartment at 28 East 81st (subsequently sublet to Dick Cavett and Carrie Nye, who might be seen as a Neal wannabe). The building was diagonally across the street from the school. Our shades were drawn and we were forbidden to look out the windows immediately after Neal's son Theo's carriage was struck by a car in the intersection of 81st and Madison.
The baby suffered brain damage. Dahl explained that ever since Neal's stroke he had carried the phone number of a neuro-surgeon around in his wallet, and that immediate access to care saved Theo's life. Dahl is also credited as part-inventor of a shunt that relieved the pressure from fluid on Theo's brain. He was a bastard, but a good children's author and probably saved the lives of Neal and Theo Dahl.
[quote]if he considered that career a run
Oops. A RUIN
Yes, Dahl was a sadistic bastard. Probably the worst mistake Patricia Neal ever made in her life was marrying him.
"Always wondered why she would take a supporting role on Broadway in The Miracle Worker."
Her Hollywood career had waned (her last big role was in A FACE IN THE CROWD, but it was not a commercial success) and she was mostly doing TV guest appearances.
Her role as Kate Keller was her last Broadway appearance.
She was the kind of actress that didn't really fit the typical Hollywood mold. HUD completely revitalized her career but only for a short period given her stroke.
Interestingly enough, Anne Bancroft's Hollywood career had fizzled as well before she did MIRACLE WORKER, and the film version turned her career around.
I always thought that Neal and Bancroft would make an interesting combination - wonder how they got along?
57 posts & no mention of her small, but sharp role in BREAKFAST AT TIFFANYS, as George Peppard's sugar mommy.
Otherwise, most loved her in HUD & THE SUBJECT WAS ROSES.
Always thought of her a just mesmerizing onscreen. An "actor's actor" & a no nonsense broad in the best sense of the term.
Others in that no nonsense category for me, would include Stanwyck, Davis, Crawford & Colleen Dewhurst.
"I AM a very stylish girl"
Spoken by Patricia Neal in Breakfast at Tiffany's. One of my favorite lines in the film.
[quote]I always thought that Neal and Bancroft would make an interesting combination - wonder how they got along?
I believe they were close friends. I seem to remember Patricia Neal referring to her as such in more than one interview.
And also in her autobiography. Makes me laugh when she considers that Anne did her a favour by taking over her role in Seven Women.
It's too bad AUGUST: OSAGE COUNTY didn't exist when Neal was around. She would have nailed Violet in a way Streep could never do.
One of the reasons Neal took the supporting role in The Miracle Worker was because she thought she might be given the Annie Sullivan role after Anne Bancroft left the show. Patricia ended up doing the play only a short time before leaving. Suzanne Pleshette would replace Anne.