This is the Chechen bomber brothers conspiracy thread
(Since we get hounded off the other Boston threads)
I believe the cops were trying to kill the one on the boat. That he wasn't as injured as reported, but the authorities reported that to explain why he'll expire shortly. But it will be murder.
You are an idiot.
Oh for fuck's fucking sake.
I think the cops put a DECOY in that boat and took him to the hospital. Maybe someone from the federal pen? O The real guy was whisked away to Cozumel for a little beach vacation and a meeting with his corporate handlers.
Trust me on this one.
The Bodton bombers are actually Barack HUSSEIN Obama's secret half-brothers who were trained by the CIA to bring down America's security to issue in Sharia-based courts of justice.
FWIW, there is undeniable evidence that men from Craft International, a private military contractor were on the scene that day. A few of them were filmed and photographed standing close to the where the bombings occurred. They wear matching uniforms and the distinctive skull on their caps in unmistakably the logo of Craft International.
Eyewitnesses have claimed that bomb "drills" were announced over loudspeakers. Obviously someone hired these workers - whose company does NOT provide routine security services - for some purpose. But no one in any official capacity has yet explained their presence.
Federal presence was too discreet for a national conspiracy.
R5, um yeah, because if I were deploying a covert operation that serves no purpose but to harm innocent civilians, I'd be sure to wear my distinct uniform with company logo clearly visible to the numerous surveillance cameras that might be recording my moves.
But is it news, R1?
R7, that is the uniform of Craft International. You can buy an exact copy of every single item those men are wearing. Their matching desert boots, tactical pants, jackets, skull-logo caps, even their the huge backpacks are all available for sale on the Craft website. Check it out for yourself if you doubt it.
There are ample pics of several of these men standing around (and subsequently leaving) the area where the bombs went off. There is no mistaking who they work for and there is no denying the fact that they are indeed present at the scene.
The question is, "Why? Who hired them and for what purpose?" and it still hasn't been answered.
Scroll down toward the bottom of this link and you will see five or six men in matching Craft Uniforms gathering behind a long black vehicle that has been outfitted for military purposes with a satellite dish and everything. A second picture of the same sort of vehicle with its dish raised for use can be seen by scrolling down a little further.
Someone hired at least one Craft International team to be there for some purpose. Again, they do not provide routine security services. These men had to have been on some sort of mission, but what?
Perhaps they were there to make asses out of tinhat speculators.
We won't know until someone in a position of dependable authority tells us, will we, R11? Thus far they have remained silent.
i love r3.
FWIW, anything from "libertariannews" is not worth anything.
R14, the PICS are not from Libertarian News. They are from the Boston Marathon. There are dozens of pics and videos that show these men in the area where the bombs went off.
I knew someone would come along and imply that the evidence was invalid based on the site that I linked to. But pictures and video don't lie. You could see the same pics on the NY Times website if they chose to publish them.
It's a clear case of Lee Harvey Oswaldistan.
OP, please consider yourself hounded off the entire DL. Tell us what we have to do to accomplish this.
Using R14's logic, if Einstein's Theory of Relativity were cited on Libertarian News it would cease to be scientifically valid.
I wonder if R14 still agrees with the New York Times and the Washington Post circa 2003 that we had to invade Iraq to protect ourselves from Saddam Hussein's vast arsenal of WMDs.
They were hired by the blackeyed children!
And I think I saw several Hatmen in the crowd!
The shadow people were there!
And Jodie the pig and the three disappeared women from Springfield Missouri were seen near a guy in the crowd who was dressed like the zodiac killer. They were all eating nutella and looking towards a rising mist in the corner if the photo. It's chilling!
Is anyone else afraid to go to bed tonight?
Why is it the same people who think the government is super incompetent and wastes all their tax money on bullshit that doesn't work SIMULTANEOUSLY thinks the government is super competent at perpetrating mass conspiracies over the public.
Maybe the Craft International people were hired by the Boston Marathon for security and they were just shitty at the job because... guess what... private contractors operate to make a profit and don't give a shit about public service and don't pay adequate wages to hire the best people.
Maybe, r20, but let's find out for sure.
I thought they provide food and beverage service to events. I'm so dumb.
[quote]pictures and video don't lie.
That's such an odd thing to say, r15, for a a conspiracy scholar such as yourself.
[quote]Why is it the same people who think the government is super incompetent and wastes all their tax money on bullshit that doesn't work SIMULTANEOUSLY thinks the government is super competent at perpetrating mass conspiracies over the public.
Because the FBI, the DHS and CIA are not run by corrupt politicians and incompetent bureaucrats. "The Government" encompasses a whole lot of areas and some departments are much more competent (and downright evil) than others.
they are all BOTTOMS!
I beg to differ. The FBI and CIA and most of the military are incompetent bureaucrats. That's why they've created the Special Forces, to do the hard stuff.
R23, there are so many pics and videos that were made immediately available in the wake of the bombing as to make it pointless to doubt the veracity of those that show the Craft International team members present in close proximity to the bomb blasts.
If they were providing routine security (which would be odd as they are not a routine security company) they certainly failed miserably.
Let's carry on and ignore those brainwashed people!
I don't know what the conspiracy would be but I find it VERY weird that TWO criminals could paralyze an urban area (including public transport AND air space) with over a half of a million people. I think there is more going on than is told to us.
Overreaction by media and those who closed up Boston for these bumbling fools.
I don't believe the kid shot at the cops while he was in the boat. I think the cops shot at him and that was the gunfire heard. The guy was too hurt to shoot at the cops.
If the older bro hadnt died all the attn would be on him since he seemed to be the radical.
Somehow Hillary Clinton is involved!!!
The guy who writes that Libertarian blog is clearly a few eggs short of an omelet.
60 people are missing after the explosion in Texas. No one is talking about this. Two weirdos kill three spectators at a marathon, then an officer, and the nation is transfixed. SIXTY people are MISSING in Texas, gone in a moment...that's a LARGE number to be vaporized....WHY isn't that a big deal?
I certainly think Craft International owes Marvel Comics royalty money for ripping off The Punisher's logo.
[quote]The FBI and CIA and most of the military are incompetent bureaucrats...
R26 - you could make a strong case for that. All of the alphabet spooks ignored myriad clues before 9/11, and as far as i know, none of them were ever held accountable.
I think Helena Cassedine is behind the whole thing.
[quote]I find it VERY weird that TWO criminals could paralyze an urban area (including public transport AND air space) with over a half of a million people.
R29, what is it that you don't understand about bombs?
Agreed, R30! I think the cops - admirable job that they all did - were trying to cover their asses when they said that the kid was shooting from the boat.
The criminals didn't paralyze the city. The city was LOCKED DOWN. Why? Because they knew the criminals were there and they knew they wouldn't be able to leave without being extremely visible.
I wouldn't mind finding out why people from what is essentially a mercenary company started by a navy seal was doing around the marathon. Just because I would like to know. I do NOT however, think it was part of a conspiracy and the Chechens were framed.
R33 that's not something supernatural love. That was a horrible and very powerful explosion, you can basically view it as some natural disaster. People went missing all the time after a tornado or earthquake. It's the same here.
yes, so what if they were there? Some rich bastard hired them. Maybe the organizers hired them? They were seen at the race so what? They were there after the race too, with their backpacks still with them.
I want to know who put up the brothers to this deed. They certainly did not act alone, where did they get the training and where did the money come from?
The dead brother was a drop out from community college, the younger brother still in college and the mother was arrested for shoplifting.
I agree with r41. More are involved. Too much freakout over just two disinfranchised crazies.
It's quite possible the feds knew these guys were a threat (supposedly the Russian gov. reached out to the CIA regarding the older one) and a cell within the government 'allowed' this to happen a la 9-11 to further a certain agenda.
R29, they just didn't want the 19 yr old to get away somehow - so all measures were taken to impede him getting away.
Has anyone seen any figures how much this endeavor cost the city/state/fed government, as well as it's citizens/businesses who were out of commission during this single person manhunt?
"University of Mobile’s Cross Country Coach, who was near the finish line of the Boston Marathon when a series of explosions went off, said he thought it was odd there were bomb sniffing dogs at the start and finish lines.
"They kept making announcements to the participants do not worry, it's just a training exercise," Coach Ali Stevenson told Local 15. . . . "
I haven't heard a single other citizen affected by the shelter-in-place order complaining about it. And I have lots of friends on the far side of Dorchester who were stuck inside too.
If that's the case, R46, why didn't police notice the errant bag placed right on the street out in the open next to a trash container.
It was very noticeable. Not blaming the police, but the police did not seem to be on the look out for troublesome aspects or suspicious bags. And many, many extra police has been assigned that day, just to do exactly that.
I hope this is helpful: I talked to a cop who works with drug sniffing dogs in airports. He said when they are *extremely* focussed they are good for about 20 minutes of work. They are, above all else, dogs.
The videos of the brothers ambling through the crowds with their backpack bombs was shot not particularly long before they went off. I find that they were able to look so calm when those things were set to go off in a relatively few moments. The dogs could not be everywhere at once.
I thought the cops in boston were inept. They couldn't find the kid who was on foot! I read that he was only like a few min away from where they last saw him! Why didn't they use more dogs? well, maybe it's the FBI coz they were in charge of the operation.
yes, it boggles the mind, who wouldn't notice such a big bag there? None of the bystanders took notice or maybe they did see it but took no action.
Bystanders were not thinking about possible bombs, so it's not surprising that the bystanders and people in the crowd did not react to the bag.
But police on duty should have noticed it.
If the ugly young guy dies in hospital then it was a work of someone else.
A Jack Ruby dupe will be hired to depose of the kid.
Well I could live without a bomb if I wanted to
In this lonely room
But I don't like Jews so I'll leave it up to you
And a bomb or two
I could live without a lover if I wanted to
But I hate the Jews
But I don't want to, so I'll use a bomb or two
To chase away the blues
So the "conspiracy theory" is that at a huge public event (the sort of thing where some security might be needed) there were security dogs at two key places, the start and the finsh.... And that rather than say " We're here sniffing for drugs and guns and bombs", which might stress people out, their standard comment in all situations is that it's a training exercise.
And that private militaristic operatives were hired to perform a covert operation; and did it so well that there are all these photos of them standing around in public. And that at an event with tv cameras and complex communications, there was a vehicle equippped to transmit signals.
r56 be careful challenging the conspiracy folks...it affects their facial tics and causes them to act out.
Then everybody's in in the conspiracy? The FBI, and the CIA, and J. Edgar
Hoover and oil companies and the Pentagon and the men's-room attendant at the White House?
If you see a "Joint Russian/American Effort" in Chechnya to root out extremists and terrorists, you'll know the whole thing was a setup. Russia's been exploding apartment buildings since 1999 and killing 300 citizens in the process, blaming it on the Chechnyans. They also poisoned anyone (journalists and someone on the Duma) who disagrees with their official explanation.
Chechnya is OIL RICH and already has the infrastructure to be a major port for oil production and transportation. Oil runs the Russian economy. They've been fighting Chechnya since the 40s.
I could see America thinking they'd rather have Russians in charge of the oil than some "Muslim extremists". The devil you know after all.
Wow. Russians are fucking crazy.
#56, that's how I'd do it.
People are always scoffing, "Oh I'm really sure someone would do that- what are the odds??"
If you're going to be a criminal- be a smart one.